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Cyclone_X
2006-03-17, 05:03 PM
Link removed for the time being.

Those images are taken from the Japanese patent office website. You might find them at the usual place for this kind of stuff.

http://www.tfw2005.com/gallery/News-Neo-G1-Astrotrain

Denyer
2006-03-17, 05:12 PM
That's pretty funky.

optimusskids
2006-03-17, 05:32 PM
very nice , although the original did a better job at hiding Alt mode features. Still a nice little mould.

Jaynz
2006-03-17, 06:52 PM
Astrotrain: "Chuga chuga chuga.. woo woo!"

Humans of Earth: "You're not fooling anyone, you know."

Nevermore
2006-03-17, 10:49 PM
Okay, I just checked back with another fan who is into IP law (with this particular field being his specialty) and he confirmed to me that this was an open publication by the Japanese patent office, so there should be no way Hasbro or anyone else could be harmed by these images being posted.

See the images without watermarks that pretend a non-existing exclusiveness here:

http://www.tfw2005.com/gallery/News-Neo-G1-Astrotrain

Jaynz
2006-03-17, 10:51 PM
I never thought I would say this.. but...

I like G1 Astrotrain better.

*cries*

Denyer
2006-03-17, 10:56 PM
The robot mode's better than the other two.

Nevermore
2006-03-18, 12:53 AM
There's speculation that Takara filed those design patents so they could have more marketable IPs for the merger (usually designs are just copyrighted, not patented).

Or, to quote Phazer:

I suspect someone has just found out Takara has been submitting photos like this to the patents office in Japan for years - and it's only just occoured to anyone to look.

There's probably more interesting stuff there. Heck, maybe there's some more photos of old unreleased stuff too, like Neocron.

TFormers (or some random Chinese site they keep raping for images, I can't say for sure) have already found 10th Anniversary Optimus Primal (http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&album=5712&dispsize=800&start=0), Cybertron Quickmix (http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&album=5713&dispsize=800&start=0) (the unreleased Galaxy Force Blender, even though someone mislabeled all the images into saying "Moledive") and Cybertron Deluxe Unicron (http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&album=5714&dispsize=800&start=0), and I'm sure there's more where these babies came from.

This could very well change a lot about how we first learn of new toys.

DrSpengler
2006-03-18, 12:54 AM
The shuttle and the robot mode look fantastic, I think. I think the train mode is a little bleh, but this is an unpainted prototype, so I'm sure it'll look better once it's all gussied up.

Overall: Neo G1 might just get me back into buying Transformers on a regular basis.

tahukanuva
2006-03-18, 01:23 AM
Supreme awesomeness.:up:

I like all of the modes personally. The train mode is the most lacking, due to the wings on the back but overall :up:.

chimung
2006-03-18, 03:08 AM
That's pretty wicked!

Nevermore
2006-03-18, 10:10 AM
TFW2005 have a gallery of non-watermarked images of Cybertron SHortround and Wreckloose (http://www.tfw2005.com/gallery/News-Cybertron-Shortround-Prototype)...

Beast Wars 10th Anniversary Optimus Primal (http://www.tfw2005.com/gallery/News-Beast-Wars-10th-Anniversary-Optimus-Primal-Prototype)

Cybertron Quickmix (http://www.tfw2005.com/gallery/News-Galaxy-Force-Blender)

Cybertron Deluxe Unicron (http://www.tfw2005.com/gallery/Cybertron-Unicron-Prototype-Images)

Meanwhile, TFormers found Beast Wars Neo Unicron (http://www.tformers.com/article.php?sid=5715).

Nevermore
2006-03-18, 10:20 AM
And here's which designs have been found so far:

http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3359&view=findpost&p=69704

Cliffjumper
2006-03-18, 10:41 AM
It looks a lot like Blast Off, doesn't it? Sort of RM Blast-Off.

I can't see the train mode... but it looks fine if it's a small, cheap toy :)

Nevermore
2006-03-18, 02:35 PM
How to look up stuff for yourself:

http://www4.ipdl.ncipi.go.jp/Isyou/dgde_top.ipdl?N0000=3100

Small box: S

Large box: http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3359&view=findpost&p=69704

inflatable dalek
2006-03-18, 03:17 PM
The shuttle and robot do indeed rock- But will he have that most vital of Astrotrain features- the huge phalic gun?

Nevermore
2006-03-18, 04:28 PM
Nobody knows yet. Those images on the patent website don't include accessories.

Nevermore
2006-03-18, 04:45 PM
Everything you want to know about how to use the Japanese patent office website (http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3423)

Cliffjumper
2006-03-18, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Nevermore
How to look up stuff for yourself:


Isn't that what we pay you for? ;)

Nevermore
2006-03-18, 09:36 PM
More details on the technical (legal) backgrounds of these publications:

http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3423&st=20

trilobitepictures
2006-03-19, 01:37 AM
I'm probably going to get lynched for asking this, but...
why is Unicron a tank?

tahukanuva
2006-03-19, 04:43 AM
Originally posted by trilobitepictures
I'm probably going to get lynched for asking this, but...
why is Unicron a tank?

Cause Hasbro wants him to be. And they have an inablity to make a new line that doesn't have a Unicron.

Nevermore
2006-03-19, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by trilobitepictures
I'm probably going to get lynched for asking this, but...
why is Unicron a tank?

Fiction-wise: Because he hasn't gained his full strength back yet.

BlueSkids
2006-03-19, 11:24 AM
It seems he is a small transformer but, anyone knows what size is it? ( compared to another transformer, for example... :confused: )

Nevermore
2006-03-19, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by BlueSkids
It seems he is a small transformer but, anyone knows what size is it? ( compared to another transformer, for example... :confused: )

He's a Deluxe.

trilobitepictures
2006-03-19, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Nevermore
Fiction-wise: Because he hasn't gained his full strength back yet.

Gotcha. Perhaps they should work something into the storyline where he attacks Krispy Kream locations across the galaxy. That should bulk him up to the size of a planet in no time.

Springer007
2006-03-19, 02:36 PM
Not too shabby looking for Astrotrain and Unicron. I can't wait for these to come out :D

Cyclone_X
2006-03-19, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Springer007
Not too shabby looking for Astrotrain and Unicron. I can't wait for these to come out :D

if you're talking about the big planet Unicron: he won't come out, he's an old unused BW Neo mold

Springer007
2006-03-19, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Cyclone_X
if you're talking about the big planet Unicron: he won't come out, he's an old unused BW Neo mold *just knew he should have been more precise* i like the BW Neo mold, but i do believe they didn't want to produce it in mass because it would have been too expensive. Unicron as a tank, which I should have been more precise in my statement, isn't shabby. Never thought it would work out that well, but it did. :D

Nevermore
2006-03-19, 04:08 PM
Guide to look up US Transformers patents...

http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3471