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Denyer
2007-02-12, 05:21 AM
Probably out on the 21st, although Diamond have told some people the 28th.

http://forums.idwpublishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=21;t=3507

Preview pages:
http://tfarchive.com/comics/idw/previews.php?dgallery=browse&page=movieprequel

Advance review:
http://tfarchive.com/comics/idw/movieprequel1a.php

Worth checking out, IMO. :)

Clogs
2007-02-26, 10:00 PM
LOL! Never trust the vizier!!!

Thanks for the info, Denyer. I have this on order and I'm glad about it now.

another tf fan
2007-03-01, 06:26 AM
Allow me to preface my remarks with a few words about me and comic books.

Before my renewed interest in Transformers in 2001 i had never, ever bought or read a comic book. in 2004 i began expanding my quest for Transformers related fiction to the g1 U.S. Marvel comics. They were lousy, but i liked them anyways. Then I bought the DW G1 first 6 issues. I liked the modern looking art and not being a comic book fan, the story seemed fun and good to me.

Then nothing.
Until I stumble into what became my regular comic shop in September, 2005. The owner told me IDW was going to start making new TF comics. I dutifully returned in October and got Infiltration #0 and have bought everything IDW has done on the subject of transformers. I also have enjoyed every one.

So, I just bought and read the B & W Movie Prequel #1.

Holy Hell that was the best Transformers Comic I have ever read!

If the movie is as good as this comic The Transformers have been eternally changed for the better.

Chris Ryall is an excellent story teller and I can't wait for issue two. Figueroa's designs are inspired and the art soars above Stormbringer.

I'd like to say that I don't care for the Black and White issues. I bought Escalation one in B & W and thought it lacking. With the movie prequel I have seen the color sample pages and they are dark. The high contrast of the B & W clears up some of the subdued colors.

I'm still buying the color issue next week.

So let me wrap this up by giving the Movie Prequel #1 five out of five stars.

Denyer
2007-03-01, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by another tf fan
I bought Escalation one in B & W Off-topic... is it actually black and white, or greyscale (four tone, full gradient, etc)? And same question for the movie prequel issue.

another tf fan
2007-03-01, 06:24 PM
Escalation #1 Black and White is actually gray scale.

Movie Prequel #1 B & W is just that, Black and White.

I don't know if IDW is using a code for the difference, but on the Escalation cover they call it "Black & White" and the movie prequel says "B & W Version".

Commander Shockwav
2007-03-08, 04:29 AM
Read it.

Did a good job as an introductory setup issue, BUT....the word to describe this issue is "confined".

What I mean by that is I feel both Ryall and Don were confined in showcasing the best of what they are about.

Artwise, Don was confined by the ridiculously complex nature of these new Transformers. Is there any artist that can take these guys and pose them when they are so freaking complicated in their structure? Don did as good a job as possible with them. Kudos to him for that, but I can only imagine he was pulling his hair out over this. I can't imagine the headache it must have been to make these bots look consistent from one panel to the next. And I don't think Megatron "hands" will ever sit right with me.

Storywise, I thought Chris did a nice job. But again, he was confined by the upcoming movie in where he can go and what he can do with this series. I feel this will not allow us to see Chris, who obviously has talent, at his best. For example, Bumblebee at the end can't talk because his vocal processor is damaged. I mean, these bots are so advanced, but they can't repair a voice processor? Obviously, the sole reason for this is because (unfortunately for all TF fans), Bumblebee is likely going to be mute for the movie. That is a depressing revelation to me. And Chris had to go with it because that's what we're going to get. See what I mean by confined?

Chris, I enjoyed your debut. But I hope that in the future, we get to see you write without being confined. A oneshot maybe?

Overall, a "B-" issue. Probably as good as an introductory issue can get given the limitations placed before it.

Brimstone
2007-03-09, 03:49 PM
So the question is, who all did we recognize in the comic?

Obviously there was Arcee, Megatron, and Bumblebee. But what about the others?

For me, I believe at the end while Bumblebee was on the gurney, that Ratchet was there (he was white, but he had the funky grill on his chest). I think in the same set of panels that Silverstreak was there, or perhaps Prowl (because of the red forehead "horns"). Also, the other main Autobot that survived the onslaught...I wonder if that was supposed to be Inferno or perhaps Red Alert? So many of them seemed familiar and that I should know who they are, but the designs changed drastically enough that I just can't tell. I know the interview with Ryall said that we should be able to tell who they are (even though they aren't named). Some of them have very distinct heads and faces, you'd think they'd be recognizeable.

Also, I have no idea who those two Decepticons were supposed to be. I mean, if they weren't Decepticons I would have said they were Sideswipe and Skids.

Oh, and it appears that we at least have the answer about Megatron's alt mode...it is definately his Cybertronian mode and not some super secret military jet. So that makes me feel better. I wonder what Earth alt mode he'll end up taking (if any).

(for those of you that know...that was a rhetorical question and I don't want to know until I see the movie!!!) :D

inflatable dalek
2007-03-14, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by Brimstone
So the question is, who all did we recognize in the comic?

I think I spotted BM Rattrap in shadow at one point, but everyone else I drew a blank on (Bar Movie Starscream in the crowd shot beg=hind Megatron that is- I'm assuming the rest were the Movie cons but I'm hopeless at this).


Good things about this issue:

Fast paced, well written and whilst it had the feeling of being aimed slightly younger it still entertained. And thankfully there was nothing to suggest Arcee was a fembot in the design (and are the drones/new bots seen all Don's work or taken from unused Movie designs?).

Is it me or is the Allspark in fact the Puzzel Box from Hellraiser?

If Megatron's slightly Panto dame dialouge is indicative of how he's written in the film I can definately hear David Kaye more in the role than I can Welker.

The silly highlight: Bumblebee's impasioned speech about how slowely, and with great struggle, he was able to find new ways to comunicate with the other Autobots to tell them what happened. Which not only suggests no one on Cybertron has invented the pen and paper yet, but gave me a mental image of this:

Optimus: Right, first word.. two syllibals, first syllibal sounds like... Big? Huge? large... Mega? Ah, Megatron!... Megatron... small word... Has? Has... Gone... Gone after... short word...as? In? The... Megatron has gone after the... sounds like round? sphere? circle... wait... ball! Sounds like Ball? Call? Haul? All? ALL!! All... Megatron has gone after the All... what? Damn it, I don't get what you're miming!

another tf fan
2007-03-15, 11:32 PM
About the robo-charades::laugh:

Denyer
2007-03-21, 05:47 AM
Due out on the 21st March. :)

Previews: http://tfarchive.com/comics/idw/previews.php

My review: http://tfarchive.com/comics/idw/movieprequel2a.php

Brimstone
2007-03-21, 06:16 PM
I just read about a misprinted color version of Prequel #1. I was wondering if anyone knows what was wrong with it.

Denyer
2007-03-21, 07:09 PM
IIRC, fifth page has completely wrong text layouts superimposed on the image.

another tf fan
2007-03-22, 01:18 AM
Issue 2 was very good and the 19th century earth tie-ins were wonderful.

the issue moved a little slower, but seemed to read faster. less staring at the pictures this time.

I'm still very interested in the story and i'm excited for issue 3.

Commander Shockwav
2007-03-22, 11:40 PM
Read it.

Very, very nicely done, by everyone.

First the writing. I felt the story flowed very nicely, was not verbose with just the right amount of exposition, and really set this story up well. I was getting some DW vibes from this issue while I was reading it, and before anyone comments on that, I consider most of what DW did to be quite good. What I mean is, this issue's story kind of harkens back to those first few issues of DW, where it was Soundwave being found encased in ice instead. That was a time of excitement for many a TF fan, and reading this issue did no less in getting me pumped. As much as I dislike humans in TF stories, I actually enjoyed the human interaction simply because the dialogue was so crisp. Chris definitely gets a pat on the back for this one from me. *pat,pat,pat*

And the art? Well, if I could pat Don on the back for every time he did something fantastic, his eyes would be knocked out of his head. Don delivers time and time again, and this issue was no different. His humans in particular are better than ever. Again, I got this DW feel from this issue also because Don was DW, artistically speaking. Everything was clear, unlike in the first issue, where all the complex forms of these bots made things quite jumbled and indistinct.

A solid "A" issue. It's not often where I'll give a comic an "A", but this is one of those times I think it meets that standard.

Good job guys, looking forward to more.

Brimstone
2007-03-28, 02:49 PM
Hmm...so Bumblebee is the infamous sillouetted(sp) transformer from the anouncement trailer, huh? I'll have to watch that again to see if it matches up (probably not).

Nevermore
2007-03-28, 05:40 PM
This issue read like someone pasted the intro pages to five or six different issues together in chronological order. You know, the way a comic often starts with "X years ago", features one or two pages of exposition and then jumps to the present day. This issue felt like a collage of that kind of scenes, just without any actual present day main story.

Brimstone
2007-03-28, 07:46 PM
So, I just went frame by frame of the anouncement trailer and...holy cow, I think that really is Bumblebee!! I mean, the body is hard to tell...but that head, there's one shot where you can see the crest and what looks to be the two little bumps on either side (his "horns/antennae"), and the two sort of cheeck protrusions on either side of his face. That really does look like Bumblebee's head.

I'm impressed.

Denyer
2007-03-28, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Nevermore
This issue read like someone pasted the intro pages to five or six different issues together in chronological order. You know, the way a comic often starts with "X years ago", features one or two pages of exposition and then jumps to the present day. This issue felt like a collage of that kind of scenes, just without any actual present day main story.
Yeah, it is kinda like a flashback montage in a film before a story picks up again at current events.

I'd quite like to have seen what the other Autobots were doing meanwhile, but it seems that's the territory covered by the prequel novel and the two publishing camps have decided to work together on different focuses rather than just retell what each other is doing.

another tf fan
2007-03-28, 10:36 PM
I'm glad they are working two different angles.

We all know if they were covering the same material we would get conflicting stories. (G1 comics AND g1 tv show)

Denyer
2007-04-10, 07:05 PM
http://tfarchive.com/comics/idw/previews.php?dgallery=browse&page=movieprequel

Due out on the 11th. :)

Megatimus
2007-04-11, 06:15 PM
This is a little bizzare. We've jumped from 2003 to the beginning of the 20th century, down to 1936/56 (print is too small).

another tf fan
2007-04-12, 08:59 PM
Another good issue. love the little details like the G1 style cars on the freeway.

Is "Explorer 1" the same as "Ghost 1"? just wondering.

Noticed on the color BB cover, the little red "metal" box that was on the lower right of issue 1 & 2 is gone for this issue. wonder why...

Nevermore
2007-04-18, 10:26 PM
The box would've covered up Don's signature, that's why. :)

Anyhoo... best issue of the bunch thus far. Unlike issue 2, which was more like a collection of setups, this one started with a setup but actually had a plot.

The problematic part, to me, is distinguishing the Sector Seven folks from each other. The fact that none of them is ever addressed by name makes it kinda hard to tell who is supposed to be who. Is the old guy from the 1935 scene one of the two from the 1898 scene from issue 2? Is the younger guy the same one from the 1902 scene? If so, he looks rather weird, kinda lige he didn't age at all in 33 years, only getting grey hair. Weird.

Also, is it just me, or does the Oppenheimer/Pickering connection kinda cheapen the USA's achievements? "How else fo you think we won the space race" - suggests that Russian scientists by themselves had been better than their American competitors, and it was only the discovery of Megatron that gave the USA the advantage they needed.

Art-wise, Don gives us a lot of easter eggs in this issue. G1 Optimus Prime, RiD Scourge, G1 Trailbreaker, G1 Ironhide on the highway, later there's G1 Motormaster and ultimately even G1 Bumblebee (although Don draws him more like a bizarre old Beetle/New Beetle hybrid than anything).

Oh, and then there's... Shwiggle, the search engine created by Schwiggie? And IDW's own website.

Denyer
2007-04-18, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Nevermore
is it just me, or does the Oppenheimer/Pickering connection kinda cheapen the USA's achievements? "How else fo you think we won the space race" - suggests that Russian scientists by themselves had been better than their American competitors, and it was only the discovery of Megatron that gave the USA the advantage they needed.
Russia did win, unless you're talking about big manned missions...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_race

Originally posted by Nevermore
Shwiggle, the search engine created by Schwiggie? I think it's Josh's personal joke; it was mentioned in the IDW forums' thread.

Cliffjumper
2007-04-18, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Denyer
Russia did win, unless you're talking about big manned missions...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_race

It's also not exactly a new angle - Ministry of Space and Planetary have both gone the "NASA are tossers" route before.




Yeh, I'm just dodging Escalation spoilers. Don't particularly care for this thing based on what I've seen, one ****ing reboot at a time, please.

Megatimus
2007-04-19, 06:56 PM
It's not a reboot, it's an alternate version. Like Marvel vs the cartoon.

inflatable dalek
2007-04-20, 08:43 PM
Which can also be described as a reboot quiet easily.

It's still feeling very much like a Movie pre-credits sequence to me rather than a story in its own right. And though they couldn't have known when they started their main arc over a year ago [and I suppose I should spoilerise this for Clify]:

The fact that both Infiltration and the prequel feature feature fairly identikit men in black doesn't help in adding variety to the spice of life...

Megatimus
2007-04-21, 10:37 AM
For me, to be a reboot another work of fiction has to stop existing.

Cliffjumper
2007-04-21, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Megatimus
For me, to be a reboot another work of fiction has to stop existing.

Right, so Infiltration isn't a reboot because it co-existed with the Cybertron cartoon? That really works, if you substitute your own made-up definition of "reboot" for what the term actually implies in this instance (a new, rebooted continuity - this week, the new movie continuity).

Now we're having Fun With Logic, perhaps you could explain how fiction stops existing? I mean, that way there's never, ever been a reboot in Transformers comic history, as I still have it all. I can take pictures of some of it if you don't believe it still exists... Mind, I suppose you could well have made up a definition for "existing" too. Let me guess... you meant something along the lines of "still having new material produced", but decided to use a totally different term for no readily apparent reason, yeh?

Oh, and don't worry about spoilerising this nonsense for me. Cheers for the thought, but I tend to expect these things in a Talkback topic :) Escalation spoilers scattered around nilly-willy completely unmarked? Less so.

Megatimus
2007-04-21, 11:49 AM
Well the saga of say, G1 cartoon or Marvel comics no longer exists right? What I mean to say is that the story has finished, and therefore no longer exists as a form of telling the story. It still exists as published video or book, but unlike IDW or the Movieverse, it is not existing as a format for the fictional characters to "live" as it were. Reboots exist to ignore what has gone past before in order to tell a story.

I guess it is quite difficult to explain what in my view constitutes the fabric of fiction as a piece of storytelling. But I think I personally feel that like the Marvel comic and Sunbow cartoon, the IDW comics and the potential film series can co-exist, and therefore I find Cliffjumper's comment of one "reboot at a time" strange, in that reboots are of the essence as to how Transformers has kept reinvigorating itself over time, more drastically and common than say, DC and its various Crises.

inflatable dalek
2007-04-21, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Cliffjumper
Oh, and don't worry about spoilerising this nonsense for me. Cheers for the thought, but I tend to expect these things in a Talkback topic :) Escalation spoilers scattered around nilly-willy completely unmarked? Less so.

Oh, it was a (extremely mild really but better safe than sorry) Escalation spoiler. Though i managed to call it Infiltration...

Reboots exist to ignore what has gone past before in order to tell a story.


Not strickly, most reboots incorporate elements of previous versions, often in the form of jokey references (such as the road full of G1 Transformers here).

Cliffjumper
2007-04-21, 03:37 PM
DALEK FOR THE WIN!

Originally posted by Megatimus
I find Cliffjumper's comment of one "reboot at a time" strange, in that reboots are of the essence as to how Transformers has kept reinvigorating itself over time, more drastically and common than say, DC and its various Crises.

Right, where exactly did I say they couldn't co-exist? As you point out in that "Let's state the obvious in the clumsiest way possible" style, there have been different continuities since the start. I meant that I don't care for yet another comic continuity (we must be knocking on the door of six or seven since the turn of the century by now...). Of course, even if you misinterpreted that, you making up different uses for different terms is still hardly sound. New continuity = reboot. Doesn't get rid of anything else - Ultimate X-Men is a reboot. And yet MU X-Men - still running (or, if you will, Uncanny X-Men is still in existence, if we want to word it as hamfistedly as possible).

another tf fan
2007-04-21, 08:39 PM
mmmm ham.....

Brimstone
2007-04-26, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Denyer
Russia did win, unless you're talking about big manned missions...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_raceHow so? Your own link that you provide clearly states Sputnik is the start of the Space Race. Ultimately, we won because we were able to build larger rocket engines (five big engines is a more reliable system than 20-some odd smaller engines, which was the design used by the Soviets on their lunar rocket).Originally posted by Denyer
It's also not exactly a new angle - Ministry of Space and Planetary have both gone the "NASA are tossers" route before.Ugh...MoS was horrible. I could never finish that one...but very poorly done, I need my sci-fi to at least pretend to be believable. Blech.

Anyway, on topic...The main thing I didn't like book was that it seemed to take the idea that it postulated in Issue #2 about Bumblebee being the transformer in the Announcement Trailer and made it Starscream. This story is just not flowing very well, I'm having a harder time following it than I did Stormbringer. :(

Denyer
2007-04-27, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Brimstone
How so?
First satellite into orbit, and Sputnik was a political embarrassment to the US at the time with the press and publicity... a situation repeated when Russia put the first human into space, first space walk...

Followed by "well, they've beaten us on these fronts, so let's aim for something they won't be first to and define success around that event..."

Giant government funded my-cock-is-bigger exercises. Though some useful technology did come out of them.

another tf fan
2007-04-27, 10:32 AM
mmmm Tang...

Denyer
2007-05-03, 02:12 AM
Out today. :)

Preview: http://tfarchive.com/comics/idw/previews.php?dgallery=browse&page=movieprequel

another tf fan
2007-05-03, 10:37 AM
Got it, read it.

A nice little issue, visually, but seemed like a rushed ending to the prequel series. I'm gonna need to get some reader feedback to fully understand all that transpired, but this issue felt lacking.

Still liked the series, issue one was by far the best.

Commander Shockwav
2007-05-04, 01:21 AM
A nice stage-setting event, this prequel was. Strong dialogue, great art (after the first issue).

It's hard to give a raving review on this series as a whole, given how the writers didn't have much to work worth in terms of what they could do and where they could go.

But working within the preexisting confines the writer's had to deal with, as far as achieving it's intended purpose, it did an excellent job. It has given me more familiarity with the movie cast and setting, and after reading this prequel, I'm more excited about seeing the actual movie now as being an extension of what we've seen so far.

So mission accomplished, Chris and Simon.

Now how about seeing Ryall work without restrictions, say, on a TF Spotlight?

Denyer
2007-05-04, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Commander Shockwav
how about seeing Ryall work without restrictions, say, on a TF Spotlight? Ayep. That I'd like to see.

inflatable dalek
2007-05-05, 01:11 PM
Even at the end it still felt like a pre-credits sequence than a story in its own right.

It'll be interesting to see in the film what happens in the four year gap between this and the Movies main events, surely the Decepticons don't just follow Bumblebee about for all that time (accompanied by ther Benny Hill theme as they do so no doubt)?

And speaking of the yellow one, was he tuned into Ironic FM with every tune having relevance to what's going on? And was Tubthumping (Spell?) enough of a hit in the US to be likely to be playing on a Yanke radio station?

dotCommunism
2007-05-05, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by inflatable dalek
And was Tubthumping (Spell?) enough of a hit in the US to be likely to be playing on a Yanke radio station?

Definitely. I remember it getting quite a bit of radio play back when I was in, um, middle school. Also, according to wikipedia, it made it to #6 on the US charts.

another tf fan
2007-05-05, 08:59 PM
Homer Simpson even sang along with it:

"I take a whiskey drink, I take a vodka drink, and when I have to pee, I use the kitchen sink, I sing the song that reminds me I'm a urinating guy..." (trails off)

It was an episode wher Lisa has conned some college gymnasts that she is as old as them.

Denyer
2007-05-09, 01:39 AM
[Merged threads for #1-4. I really need to find a hack that merges the thread view count as well as the posts, as it skews the forum info.]

Ackula
2007-05-17, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by inflatable dalek
Even at the end it still felt like a pre-credits sequence than a story in its own right.

It'll be interesting to see in the film what happens in the four year gap between this and the Movies main events, surely the Decepticons don't just follow Bumblebee about for all that time (accompanied by ther Benny Hill theme as they do so no doubt)?

And speaking of the yellow one, was he tuned into Ironic FM with every tune having relevance to what's going on? And was Tubthumping (Spell?) enough of a hit in the US to be likely to be playing on a Yanke radio station?

I'm a little late to this thread..so forgive me. First off I loved the prequel comics suprisingly. I thought I was going to hate them and expected to..but so far so good on the storyline. I'm liking the whole angle with the technology coming from the NBE's and the governmental conspiracy sort of thing..fits well.

In regards to Daleks aformentioned post, I too am very interested to see what happens in the time that passes between the comics and the movie.

And in regards to that aweful song by Chumbawamba (Sp?) ..they played it to death back when it came out..it was during a time period when I was taking alot of LSD and I clearly remember it being shown on MTV pretty much everytime I happened to turn the TV to that station during an acid trip...very disturbing.

another tf fan
2007-05-18, 11:01 AM
Got any cid left?

Ackula
2007-05-19, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by another tf fan
Got any cid left?

I haven't touched that stuff in about 10 years my friend.

Nevermore
2008-06-25, 04:54 PM
We don't seem to have a thread on the Target prequels yet. Out the week of June 18th. I got mine on June 25th.

Nevermore
2008-06-25, 05:26 PM
The ten-page Bumblebee story was originally handed out in US theaters to coincide with the launch of the movie.

The 22-page Decepticons story was originally available in miniature format with a Target exclusive special edition DVD of the movie.

For those who care, both stories are available online on Target's site here (http://transformers.target.com.edgesuite.net/img/TransformersComic.pdf) (Bumblebee story "Interlude") and here (http://transformers.target.com.edgesuite.net/Transformers_092407/img/TransformersComic2.pdf) (Decepticons story "Planetfall").

This issue marks the first time both stories are availbale for a general international audience outside the online PDF versions. For continuity reasons, the IDW "Special" release reprints the two stories in the opposite order than they were originally released in.

But what continuity? The Decepticons story heavily contradicts the regular four-issue IDW Prequel mini-series: Here, the Decepticons arrive in Afghanistan in 2007, rather than in Nevada in 2003; and Blackout heads off to Afghanistan straight away, leaving no time for the attack on the IDW decoy bunker in Prequel #4. On the other hand, some of the events of the Decepticons story (specifically, Wreckage's fate) are also referred to in "Reign of Starscream".

Both stories contains several changes from the original Target-sponsored version. Most of them are related to removing "Robo-Vision" decoder-related effects and gimmicks. Also, on page 4 (page 26 in the IDW "Special" release), what was originally a Target delivery truck got changed into advertising IDW's upcoming "All Hail Megatron" mini-series. Furthermore, the masthead stuff on the final page of the Bumblebee story that had obscured the lower portion of the last panel is missing in the IDW "Special" release.