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zigzagger
2009-06-30, 07:29 AM
Goldbug, along with his fellow Throttlebots, retell their encounter with the "city" sized behemoth - a tale that is, purportedly, so big that it can only be told mostly through double-page spreads. Yay! This is your all purpose Transformers Spotlight: Metroplex Throttlebots reaction and discussion thread.

Come and join the discussion.

The big guy's spotlight is scheduled for July 1st. Check out the preview pages @ comicscontinuum.com (http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0906/25/idwfirsts.htm).

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Auntie Slag
2009-06-30, 09:09 PM
Ooh I am looking forward to this one. A team like the Throttlebots unfortunately need more than one issue, or should demand more than one. Need a little saga of their own, Maximum Dinobots style.

I really enoyed their stuff in the marvel comic based around the scraplets story, but fear unless there's some really sharp writing that they'll come off as a rather bland team on the run.

Still, there's so much that can be said with so little. A perfect case in point is a line from Cliffjumper's fanfic "Freeway thought of something really funny to do to Wideload, as long as they survive the battle".

Nuggets of excellence. Goldbug should be a nugget of excellence. Got my fingers crossed for some top banter between them and Sixshot.

Cliffjumper
2009-06-30, 09:21 PM
Are the second and third pages an example of these alleged double-page spreads? Those are just wide frames, a double-page spread surely means just a single giant frame, or surely most comics use double-page spreads?

The Throttlebots rock. They don't deserve something like Max Dinos, though, they deserve something good that doesn't make 80% of the team look like weak-willed clods with no personality of their own.

zigzagger
2009-07-01, 04:50 AM
Are the second and third pages an example of these alleged double-page spreads? Those are just wide frames, a double-page spread surely means just a single giant frame, or surely most comics use double-page spreads?


Just going by what Ryall, Tipton, or whoever said it would be, is all. But, no, so far it doesn't appear to be in said format.

inflatable dalek
2009-07-01, 07:33 AM
IDW not making it look as if they don't have a clue about comics in their over hyped PR? Shocking. Despite that though I am looking forward to this.

Blackjack
2009-07-01, 09:08 AM
I'm liking it so far, though they aren't the two-page spreads promised.
And I like the Throttlebots. Goldbug isn't Bumblebee... is he?

Halfshell
2009-07-02, 08:41 AM
Whilst technically not the promised format, it is actually the layout I expected.

Though I do feel quite cheated, as I'd interpreted it as "because of the size of Metroplex, in order to get across the scope of what he's thinking/feeling we need to tell it in landscape".

Whereas what we're actually getting off the basis of the preview pages is a Throttlebot story that they're just telling at 90 degrees.

... this'll be the second Spotlight in four that isn't actually told from the perspective of the robot it's credited to won't it?

Zisteau
2009-07-02, 10:53 PM
So, I was right, sadly. We have storytelling via big robot appears mysteriously to smite medium robot and save the day for the small robots.

Commander Shockwav
2009-07-02, 11:13 PM
Loved this!

Where to begin? Really hard to find a flaw in this.

Whereas most spotlights have left me yawning by comic's end, this one had me smiling at the edge of my seat. I really enjoyed this. Dialogue, story, art, the use of more obscure characters. Everything was first class.

Could it be Schmidt is the guy I've been looking for? He showed respect for past material, referencing events from past spotlights, and opened up a very intriguing storyline that has me stoked. His dialogue was never superfluous and he added just the right amount of wit and humor to it.

Respect for the past events is what ties a continuity together. An understanding of what has occurred in the past to a character is what allows us to enjoy the journey that character will take in the future. Schmidt clearly understand this.

I know this a Metroplex spotlight, but I absolutely loved how Schmidt handles Sixshot here. Notice how Sixshot was up fighting after that first megahit from Metroplex's fist, when Searchlight, aghast, asks "You still function?", to which Sixshot answers "Of course. Am I not Sixshot?" That, my friends, is good writing. That is knowing a character. Most current writers would have had Sixshot down and out after such a hit. But he's the creme de la creme of Decepticon warriors. Schmidt understands this, and for the first time since IDW got the license, makes me believe that Sixshot is as bad as he's meant to be.

The art is the best I've seen from Matere. The coloring is fantastic here also.

There's something very Marvelesque here, invoking a feeling similar to the one I had when I first read the Shockwave spotlight.

If Schmidt can do this with a single issue, I'm chomping at the bit to see what he could do with an ongoing.

Give it an "A+". One of the better spotlight yet.

Halfshell
2009-07-03, 07:51 AM
Loved this!

The bad omens continue...

Xed51
2009-07-03, 10:01 AM
Notice how Sixshot was up fighting after that first megahit from Metroplex's fist, when Searchlight, aghast, asks "You still function?", to which Sixshot answers "Of course. Am I not Sixshot?"
I never posted in this forum before, but I've got to ask:
Isn't this the same quote that megatron and omega supreme repeat 2 or 3 times each in All Hail Megatron, just slightly different?
"Megatron, there's an incoming jet!"
"I AM MEGATRON!"
"Megatron, do you need protection?"
"I AM MEGATRON!"
"Omega Supreme, how did you survive?"
"I AM OMEGA SUPREME!"
"I'm gonna beat you!"
"I AM OMEGA SUPREME!"
etc.
I'm really just asking, because I still have to read the issue.

Halfshell
2009-07-03, 10:35 AM
Probably. Plot and depth seem to have been stripped away of late and replaced by bullshit macho posturing. Would be in keeping.

Auntie Slag
2009-07-03, 07:27 PM
Hah! says you *hip thrusts & swooshes hair*

Xed51
2009-07-03, 08:02 PM
Is there any summary for the issue? I still can't find it in my country.

Rossum
2009-07-04, 01:49 AM
I never posted in this forum before, but I've got to ask:
Isn't this the same quote that megatron and omega supreme repeat 2 or 3 times each in All Hail Megatron, just slightly different?
"Megatron, there's an incoming jet!"
"I AM MEGATRON!"
"Megatron, do you need protection?"
"I AM MEGATRON!"
"Omega Supreme, how did you survive?"
"I AM OMEGA SUPREME!"
"I'm gonna beat you!"
"I AM OMEGA SUPREME!"
etc.
I'm really just asking, because I still have to read the issue.

You're in for a treat, there's even an "I AM METROPLEX" thrown in to make sure the reader is properly awed.

Starfield
2009-07-04, 04:05 AM
When did this happen? One thing I don't like about spotlights is having to guess. Edit: Nevermind. I found the editor's note on the inside cover. "Just prior to AHM #1."

Sixshot is out of character showing a lot more finesse now instead of wanton planetary destruction. He sneaked onto the Autobot base! I can't imagine the Sixshot from -ation sneaking anywhere. The new Sixshot personality isn't bad, but the spent a lot of time establishing the old one.

I suspect Metroplex is mad as a hatter, single-mindedly on a mission that became obsolete eons ago.

The Throttlebots? There were introduced with their specialty being evading the enemy (there's no one better). But Sixshot found them pretty easily, then after a while, they stopped trying to evade Sixshot and instead took him on head-on.

The best part is Metroplex and his mysterious mission. It is a great take on the character. Especially if his mission turns out to be tragically unimportant anymore.

zigzagger
2009-07-04, 07:34 AM
Overall, an entertaining, albeit short, read. In fact, it can be summed up into the following:

Sixshot: “I am Sixshot. Fear me."
Searchlight: "I'm not afraid of you."
Sixshot: "Well, you sho..."

[Building behind him suddenly changes into a gigantic arm and crashes down onto Sixshot]

Sixshot: Uhhhhhhh…I…I’m okay, I’m okay. After all, I am Sixsh…”

[Metroplex steps on him]

Metroplex: “I. AM. METROPLEX. I. HAVE. TO. LEAVE. NOW.”
Searchlight: “Err, umm…Why?”
Metroplex: “IT’S. A. SECRET.”

[Metroplex transforms and flies off]

Rollbar: “Wonder what that was all about.”
Searchlight: “I know, but I’m not telling.”

[Pans to Sixshot's crushed body]

The end...or is it?!!!!

Sadly, I’m not really sure yet if this works well as a Spotlight for Metroplex. I'll have to give it another read through. Then again, the Throttlebots are the ones who provide characterization for Metroplex, and for the most part it works. It’s certainly not the first time a Spotlight has been told from an outside perspective, so it’s serviceable. Speaking of which, the Throttlebots – who are essentially the stars of the show – are good value and their plight is engaging. The acknowledgement of continuity was also a plus.

Not perfect, but a fun romp on the whole.

optimusskids
2009-07-04, 03:00 PM
What happened to Wideload? Did he run off and hide in case Sixshot scratched his paintwork?

After they all run away he seems to vanish unless i've missed him somewhere.

zigzagger
2009-07-04, 03:06 PM
What happened to Wideload? Did he run off and hide in case Sixshot scratched his paintwork?

After they all run away he seems to vanish unless i've missed him somewhere.

I thought he was the one that Sixshot takes out after landing on top of Freeway.

Auntie Slag
2009-07-05, 12:45 PM
I haven't read this one yet, but is there an established rank or anything amongst the Throttlebots, or are they all pretty equal.

My only point of reference is the old Marvel G1 comics where it appeared as if Rollbar was the spokesman, which is fine as long as he's cast well enough to not come off as Kup-lite.

Halfshell
2009-07-06, 04:43 PM
Spotlight Metroplex my arse.

Things I've learnt:
- Sixshot traded Megatron Jhiaxus' spacebridge tech in exchange for being reactivated and the remote in his head being removed. How'd he negotiate that then?

- Metroplex is hiding to protect something SECRET and MYSTERIOUS and IMPORTANT. Bored now.

Utterly not worth the wait to learn the meaning behind a senseless throwaway line in AHM. Maybe if this and Spotlight Drift had been published before the relevent parts of All Hail then my feelings would be different, but all told my reaction to this is much the same as my reaction to Cliffjumper:

Meh/5.

Denyer
2009-07-06, 07:11 PM
Is there any summary for the issue? I still can't find it in my country.

The Throttlebots are being pursued by Sixshot. They land on an alien world that shows signs of Cybertronian life, and try to evade Sixshot -- until their presence awakens Metroplex. Sixshot is taken care of (though not fatally) and Metroplex assists the Throttlebots in leaving but also leaves himself, citing a mission that's more important than contributing to the Autobot front line.

Decent stuff. Some typos (Jiaxus, "can not" instead of "cannot") and "I weep for my fellow Autobots" could've been cast a little less humanly as "I mourn my fellow Autobots" or something, but overall it worked well. Nice nods to continuity.

Xed51
2009-07-06, 09:15 PM
The Throttlebots are being pursued by Sixshot. They land on an alien world that shows signs of Cybertronian life, and try to evade Sixshot -- until their presence awakens Metroplex. Sixshot is taken care of (though not fatally) and Metroplex assists the Throttlebots in leaving but also leaves himself, citing a mission that's more important than contributing to the Autobot front line.

Decent stuff. Some typos (Jiaxus, "can not" instead of "cannot") and "I weep for my fellow Autobots" could've been cast a little less humanly as "I mourn my fellow Autobots" or something, but overall it worked well. Nice nods to continuity.
It sounds ok. It sounds like it was made to introduce a new series, pretty much the same thing that Spotlight: Grimlock did for Maximum Dinobots.

borg72
2009-07-07, 10:07 AM
the double-spreads seemed a bit redundant until 'plex actually makes an appearance, and the whole thing should have been called spotlight: throttlebots. or notlight: metroplex. or...

Also, they should have just put the words 'FORESHADOWING' in big inch-high letters. just to make the set-up even more obvious.

but beyond that it was an entertaining enough 'prequal' to whatever is coming next. and its good to see 'redshirt' searchlight still around after stormbringer.

zigzagger
2009-07-07, 10:54 AM
Also, they should have just put the words 'FORESHADOWING' in big inch-high letters. just to make the set-up even more obvious.


Yeah, personally, I would've preferred a teeny bit more subtlety rather than being constantly reminded that this is a set up for things to come. Particularly with the usage of "IT" (e.g. "To keep IT safe.", "Did he say IT?", "IT better be important.", "Do you know what IT is?"). I understand what's being accomplished here (and not just in the case of "IT"), but it quickly became redundant.

Terome
2009-07-07, 06:35 PM
I quite enjoyed this, really. A simple, complete story with some very effective art. The Russel T. Davies FORESHADOWING is wearing thin across all serials now, but those are just the times we're in.

Xed51
2009-07-07, 10:43 PM
I finally found it, and it was ok. It's not unbelivably good but it's not bad either. I didn't like the fact that Metroplex only appears in the last 3 pages, but this is more an introduction to a new series than a spotlight. I hope that the new ongoing will be written by the same guy.

Zen-Aku
2009-07-08, 10:47 PM
Not bad Sixshot is awesome no matter were he is

StarscreamX
2009-07-09, 09:42 PM
Loved this!

Where to begin? Really hard to find a flaw in this.

Whereas most spotlights have left me yawning by comic's end, this one had me smiling at the edge of my seat. I really enjoyed this. Dialogue, story, art, the use of more obscure characters. Everything was first class.

Could it be Schmidt is the guy I've been looking for? He showed respect for past material, referencing events from past spotlights, and opened up a very intriguing storyline that has me stoked. His dialogue was never superfluous and he added just the right amount of wit and humor to it.

Respect for the past events is what ties a continuity together. An understanding of what has occurred in the past to a character is what allows us to enjoy the journey that character will take in the future. Schmidt clearly understand this.

I know this a Metroplex spotlight, but I absolutely loved how Schmidt handles Sixshot here. Notice how Sixshot was up fighting after that first megahit from Metroplex's fist, when Searchlight, aghast, asks "You still function?", to which Sixshot answers "Of course. Am I not Sixshot?" That, my friends, is good writing. That is knowing a character. Most current writers would have had Sixshot down and out after such a hit. But he's the creme de la creme of Decepticon warriors. Schmidt understands this, and for the first time since IDW got the license, makes me believe that Sixshot is as bad as he's meant to be.

The art is the best I've seen from Matere. The coloring is fantastic here also.

There's something very Marvelesque here, invoking a feeling similar to the one I had when I first read the Shockwave spotlight.

If Schmidt can do this with a single issue, I'm chomping at the bit to see what he could do with an ongoing.

Give it an "A+". One of the better spotlight yet.

Schmidt, unless my memory is playing tricks on me, is the guy writing the Starscream and Spike Witwicky stories in the spotlights. And those two stories seem to be the ones that will have the heaviest ties to the ongoing as the Starscream one deals with what the Decepticons are doing with the Matrix and Witwicky is, presumably, going to be part of the supporting cast in the ongoing.

So I'd say there's a good chance of him being the ongoing writer as he seems to be introducing various important plot points. First "It" the mysterious Macguffin Metroplex is protecting and then the Decepticons with the Matrix and the human element now the cats out of the bag about Transformers

Xed51
2009-07-09, 10:53 PM
Schmidt, unless my memory is playing tricks on me, is the guy writing the Starscream and Spike Witwicky stories in the spotlights.
Nope, they're both being wrote by Mike Costa, Schmidt is writing Galvatron

Halfshell
2009-07-10, 08:14 AM
I like the fact that, so far, none of us give enough of a toss to even try speculating on what "IT" is.

Go us! We're not jaded at all.

inflatable dalek
2009-07-11, 03:32 PM
That was OK, and certainly looked nice. I'm hoping Metroplex's mission is just a McGuffin to explain why he isn't fighting on the front line rather than actual plot foreshadowing. IDW really need to have learnt their mistake about using thinking it's not confusing to casual buyers to have Spotlights dependent on explainging ongoing storylines.

I'd have been happier if they'd have left Goldbug out, and I guess the idea that indervidual team names are seen as unofficial and just a bit silly by everyone else has been dropped now then?

Starfield
2009-07-11, 08:33 PM
I guess the idea that indervidual team names are seen as unofficial and just a bit silly by everyone else has been dropped now then?

What, you say?

Red Dave Prime
2009-07-12, 02:34 AM
Not bad at all. I really liked the art. Sixshot in particular looked excellent.

Speaking of, I prefered this sixshot to the one we are constantly told about (but rarely actually see) So often the autobots talk about sixshot taking down armies but here he is shown (much as he was in devastation) as just a really good warrior. I prefer it that way, having no love of super-powerful characters running around. His explantion for getting back to normal doesnt ring true but I can let that slide.

The throttlebots (who really should have gotten the title) came across well too. A follow up issue on them could be fun. They where each distinctive enough which can be tricky when bots look so similar ( I worried that they would come across like the Dreamwave micromasters - an indistinct mess of blocky bots)

Metroplex himself is decently done but I'm really not sure IDW needed another super big bot in the mix. We've Devastator, Omega Supreme and possibly Thunderwing, Monstructor and Bludgeon all ranging in overpowered stakes. Sixshot could also be counted in that range as well. For me, it merely takes away from the other characters. Most creatures are limited by nature but transformers obviosly arent so it begs the question why more of them arent tooled up to the max. I'd like less of these chatacters (plus they tend to be used as deus ex machina types - its not so bad here but Omega Supreme in AHM was a terrible get-out)

As for IT, I was kinda hoping its the all-seeing all knowing magnificence - and that Metroplex was taking it far, far away along with his over powered self. Wishful thinking I suspect.

I'm assuming the mystery of the lab is also tied up with IT as well but I suppose we'll find out for sure months from now. I can wait.

C+/B- for this one.

Xed51
2009-07-26, 03:03 PM
Not bad at all. I really liked the art. Sixshot in particular looked excellent.

Speaking of, I prefered this sixshot to the one we are constantly told about (but rarely actually see) So often the autobots talk about sixshot taking down armies but here he is shown (much as he was in devastation) as just a really good warrior. I prefer it that way, having no love of super-powerful characters running around. His explantion for getting back to normal doesnt ring true but I can let that slide.
Meh Sixshot wasn't that awesome in Devastation either. I don't think he's that powerful, he only destroys what's left of the world after phase 6 as far as I remember, that shouldn't take much effort. Beside that he's just a good warrior.

By the way, was the fact that the autobots lost the war ever expanded beside the fact that the decepticons got their codes? Because if they lost everything just because the decepticon got a bunch of codes, they kinda deserved to lose war.
On the other hand, the decepticons dumped the autobots on cybertron and wanted to destroy the earth with a nuke just for the sake of being EEEEVIL, so there was a cybertronian stupidity virus going around at the time probably.
(Woah, that's like, too deep for me, man)