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praetorian
2010-07-15, 06:34 AM
Revealed at International Tokyo Toy Show:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generation-1-1/new-transformers-2010-reissue-predaking-incoming-170187/

Looks like the yellow parts have been repainted in gold. Predaking's also featured on the placecard next to the toy with the other reported Takara releases and re-releases for 2010.

Sades
2010-07-15, 08:26 AM
Shiny!

Halfshell
2010-07-15, 08:30 AM
Looks like the yellow parts have been repainted in gold.

Not to me. Headstrong still looks yellow. There's plenty of gold about but those seem to just be the labels that he's always had.

Although, that said, Razorclaw's lionface looks glossier. Hrm.

Spoilsport
2010-07-15, 06:02 PM
I read on another site that the Japanese retail price is $180...so hopefully the online stores like BBTS and TFsource will be selling him for less than $200. As much as I want this I refuse to pay $500 for it on eBay. Does anybody know if this is going to be a mass release or just an "exclusive"?

burnitall
2010-07-15, 06:36 PM
Here it is up for Pre-order at BBTS for $179.99.
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=tak11131&mode=retail

Sades
2010-07-15, 06:41 PM
It stated in the link above that it was going to retail for around $179 US.

Auntie Slag
2010-07-15, 08:13 PM
Not too fussed about Predaking, but Hydro-dive Bumblee looks fantastic. Buzz Lightyear to the rescue!

Spoilsport
2010-07-16, 01:40 AM
Just pre-ordered it from BBTS. I guess no new encore re-issues this year since Takara is focusing on their Transformers 2010 lineup. Still hoping for an encore Blaster since this years SDCC exclusive is coming out next month.

Catalyst Dragon
2010-07-16, 04:54 AM
Just ordered mine as well, I only had Headstrong as a kid and Predaking has always been one of my favorite cartoon/comic combiners so I must have!

And this still beats the average price for a G1 Predaking that I've seen.

Skyquake87
2010-07-16, 07:49 AM
Good news for those desperate for a Predaking figure. I bought the 2004 reissue, but have since sold it on. Why? Am I mad? No, its just that i was disappointed with it. The individual Predacons are huge clumsy block-formers devoid of any real charm, and Headstrong's metal back means he can't stand up in robot mode with toppling over. The only way to get him to stand is to have weapons in both hands and have his arms outstretched! The blunted look of the beast forms doesn't help them from an aesthetic point of view, and they rely heavily on the careful application of a lot of annoying decals to make them look something like.

The combined form of Predaking is impressive, if only for his size (he towers over all the other merge groups), but his misproportioned torso and Divebomb's wings not staying put make him something of a qualified success.

Cliffjumper
2010-07-16, 07:57 AM
Mmm, I was never that mad on the guy... only Rampage is particularly impressive of the team members (while Headstrong and Tantrum are both outright shit, even for combiner limbs, and the whole thing just feels a bit oversized, and quite cheap and nasty.

Catalyst Dragon
2010-07-16, 08:07 AM
What gets me though is how it looks like the legs arn't connected in these pictures... it looks like Tantrum and Headstrong are sitting infront of the rest of them. I guess it's just the angle of the photo.

Sades
2010-07-16, 08:28 AM
I'm big on Predaking, if only because it's the only combiner I remember playing with as a kid. Well... to be fair, I remember playing with bits of him. Tantrum was my favourite.

Halfshell
2010-07-16, 08:31 AM
Mmm, I was never that mad on the guy... only Rampage is particularly impressive of the team members (while Headstrong and Tantrum are both outright shit, even for combiner limbs, and the whole thing just feels a bit oversized, and quite cheap and nasty.

"So, my loyal employees, we have finally established a way to make a five-robot combiner team with all the members the same size. Congratulations. But I feel it's not enough... it looks somehow disproportionate... anybody have any ideas?"

"We could make it bigger."

"Interesting. But wouldn't that mean re-engineering so that it isn't just big lumps of plastic? Won't that feel cheap?"

"Nah, if we make it BIG then people will just lap it up as a phallic substitute. And the cheapness of the plastic caused by the larger size will just make it more fragile and, as such, more valuable and desirable. And kids won't care because it'll be BIG."

"Fair enough. It doesn't half look familiar though."

"It looks nothing like anything by Bandai. I don't know what you're talking about."

"Eh. Whatever. Make it big. Primary colours... lots of red and yellow. Oh, and black. Kids love black. I'm off to lunch now. If you need new moulds for the bigger toys, just hammer out the ones we used for the Dinobots."

Skyquake87
2010-07-16, 07:56 PM
What gets me though is how it looks like the legs arn't connected in these pictures... it looks like Tantrum and Headstrong are sitting infront of the rest of them. I guess it's just the angle of the photo.

Nope. They really look like that in real life. the legs sit forward on the connector points, so his torso looks like its set back from his legs. the arms are also very heavy with all the die cast, so he can't hold his arms up and the connector joints in the shoulders wear loose quickly due as they can't support the weight. i was really disappointed with them, as i love the animation models and their appearance in 'Prey', but the toys just don't do them justice unfortunately.

Cliffjumper
2010-07-16, 08:31 PM
I've always been amazed that they knobbed the design from Bandai (was it Daltanias in the end?), but kept their own shitty combining mechanisms - that's why I love Popy/Bandai combining robots, there's some really neat mechanisms just for connecting limbs, whereas (with the noble exceptions of Devastator and Raiden), if you've combined one G1 combiner, you've basically combined them all.

I've never been able to work out fandom's hard-on for the Predacons, really. "Prey" is awesome (as is "Grudge Match"), but aside from that they did bugger-all - did Predaking ever win a fight outside of fanfics? Maybe in Headmasters in those early episodes where there always seemed to be a combined robot hitting another one in the background?

Halfshell
2010-07-16, 08:39 PM
I've never been able to work out fandom's hard-on for the Predacons, really.

He's BIG!

Cliffjumper
2010-07-16, 08:51 PM
So's Fort Max! It doesn't excuse him being a big brick with all the finesse of Duplo!

Shit, sorry, forgot where I was.

Sades
2010-07-16, 08:53 PM
I think I'd be happy if I could just get a Tantrum, really.

inflatable dalek
2010-07-16, 10:00 PM
I like Predaking, he's just so... big. And hard... and orange.

asuka 24
2010-07-17, 03:45 AM
I got lucky back in 2007 I came across an auction on Ebay and got a Bootleg figure of Predaking for 30 bucks that is almost perfect, if the colors where the same the figure would have been perfect.

Even thought the color scheme don't match the original it still looks awesome.

:D:D:D

Skyquake87
2010-07-17, 07:37 AM
I've never been able to work out fandom's hard-on for the Predacons, really. "Prey" is awesome (as is "Grudge Match"), but aside from that they did bugger-all - did Predaking ever win a fight outside of fanfics? Maybe in Headmasters in those early episodes where there always seemed to be a combined robot hitting another one in the background?

I think its one of those 'must own/ can't own' things. The Preds were never available in the UK, and got some fair exposure in the comic. I think its the same reason I really, really like the Constructicons. Which might not be the most amazing figures out there, but at least there was some thought put into them.

inflatable dalek
2010-07-17, 07:57 AM
Were they really never released in the UK? I didn't know that. The UK comic was incredibly cruel in making all the toys we couldn't buy look cool wasn't it? Especially Whirl.

Rack 'n Ruin
2010-07-17, 08:40 AM
Yeah, I remember being particularly gutted as a child (it was an easy childhood) that Swoop & Blaster weren't available as toys. I don't think I thought about the situation outside the UK, I just knew I couldn't get them here. And I really wanted those figures. :(

Cue someone telling me they were out in the UK after all.

Halfshell
2010-07-17, 09:19 AM
Nah, Swoop and Blaster were never released in the UK. I think Blaster was out in Germany (mentioned in a letters page, iirc). The Predacons and Trypticon were released in Italy, but that's because Gig just did whatever the hell they wanted.

I think its one of those 'must own/ can't own' things. The Preds were never available in the UK, and got some fair exposure in the comic. I think its the same reason I really, really like the Constructicons.

The Constructicons were released in the UK. Eventually, anyway. In, like, 1992 ish. I got my Bonecrusher in Woolies... it was either when the Classics were still on the shelves or when I got my G2 Silverbolt. Better late than never.

inflatable dalek
2010-07-17, 11:54 AM
Wasn't Swoop held back for safety reasons? Which considering what did get released here suggests he must be some sort of fragile death trap. Considering they'd have certainly wanted to release all five Dinobots (some of the most popular characters, guaranteed good sellers all) there must have been some sort of outside constraint anyway.

Cliffjumper
2010-07-17, 12:12 PM
The way I remember it (and I can't remember where I read this, so it could be bollocks), there were numerous returns in the States due to the head assembly falling apart, so Hasbro UK (who had plenty of figures to choose from anyway) just didn't bother in the first place.

Catalyst Dragon
2010-07-17, 11:55 PM
Nope. They really look like that in real life. the legs sit forward on the connector points, so his torso looks like its set back from his legs.

Thats what I was afraid of, I suppose I already knew, I remembered seeing the connector port on the Hardhead I had as a kid. I just hoped it wasn't that pronounced...

As for Cliffy's question of what the Fandom sees in Predaking?
I can't speak for everyone else, but the main reasons I've always wanted him is: I never had him as a kid.(and probably the main reason I want him now)
He's the biggest of the combiners. He's made up of mostly(with the exception of Tantrum and Hardhead) Hunting animals. I'm a cat person so how can I not have a combiner that has two cats!

And finally, If someone invades your home he makes a good bludgeoning device!
...although I'd probably reach for MP Megatron before Predaking.

skywarp408
2010-07-18, 12:20 AM
Got the original mib, but might pick this up.

Clay
2010-07-18, 11:19 AM
Headstrong's metal back means he can't stand up in robot mode with toppling over. The only way to get him to stand is to have weapons in both hands and have his arms outstretched!

There's a tab in the back of his feet that folds out to prevent this.

As for the group as a whole, I had always wanted one since I was a kid because they just looked neat. They have a certain uniformity to them like the Constructicons do while being able to vary a bit more.

I also think that, by 1986 Transformers standards, the individual toys are rather good, and the combined mode is really quite articulate even today.

Sades
2010-07-18, 08:36 PM
Got the original mib, but might pick this up.

Wouldn't the "value" on those MIB items just plummet with this?

I don't understand why people are willing to pay MIB prices. Well, I do and I don't. As with everything I suppose. :p I don't do the "brag factor" thing, and value means nothing to me. If I own it, it's because I liked it.

The only thing I have MIB is a couple of smaller Universe figs and my Fallen figure, but they're only still in the boxes because I forgot about them or/and didn't have any room for them anywhere so figured they'd be better off staying in their boxes.

Then again, that might be how some things become MIB... *shrugs*

Cliffjumper
2010-07-18, 08:52 PM
MIB != MISB. I've got shitloads of MIB toys, simply because some toys have great packaging (cross ref: Seacons, short version I'm not talking about Transformers). Most of my Ideon stuff is MIB, ditto Soul of Chogokin. Lots of the boxes look great, and when they're made properly (styrofoam inserts, plastic trays designed to hold parts rather than prop the toy up nicely in the shop) they're incredibly helpful for storage (though I'm trying to move away from keeping toys I don't have on display; I'd rather other people enjoyed the things... problem is when I take stuff out of boxes to do ebay listings I invariably remember why stuff is so great. Or weird). I'd have lost a lot of parts for my SoCs if I didn't hang onto the boxes, actually.

Sades
2010-07-18, 09:06 PM
Yeah... thinking about it, this is a question I think I've ruminated on more than once.

The packaging thing makes sense. There's been a lot of figures I've thought about keeping in-box because of the packaging.

Cliffjumper
2010-07-18, 09:16 PM
It varies by line in my case - the only TF stuff I hold onto are for reissues, the TF Collection stuff because it looks good, the other Autobot cars for storage (the reissues' reworked bubbles are more reusable than the older ones). About the only other things I've kept are Legends Devastator (because I planned to sell him almost from the start, he was bought to review largely), and the ROTF Leaders, Supreme Devastator and MP Prime (because they're awkwardly big figures and it;s handy to have something to put them on). Most TF stuff leaves me cold, though - stock pictures, the briefest bios imaginable when they bother at all, big ugly plastic windows. Urgh.

S_Windell
2010-07-22, 05:21 AM
King Over-rated is back.

CrazyDevy is selling upgrade kits now. Hopefully there will be an attachment to help those too noticeably forward-swept legs. That would be the most obvious, and good for folks who actually like Predaking. It seems "moar guns!" are next though...

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/314579-predaking-cons-solicitation-photos.html

Does Headstrong have new decals? I don't remember any of those.

Tantrum looks a bit like a Junkion. That's kinda cool. Divebomb's "now I'm short" alt mode. The whole "Boba Fett Predaking's so awesome he doesn't have to do anything to prove it" thing. I just don't get it. Even as a boy I didn't understand the hype. "Run, Kup, Run!" :eek:

Skyquake87
2010-07-22, 07:53 PM
Nah, Swoop and Blaster were never released in the UK. I think Blaster was out in Germany (mentioned in a letters page, iirc). The Predacons and Trypticon were released in Italy, but that's because Gig just did whatever the hell they wanted.



The Constructicons were released in the UK. Eventually, anyway. In, like, 1992 ish. I got my Bonecrusher in Woolies... it was either when the Classics were still on the shelves or when I got my G2 Silverbolt. Better late than never.

This is true! The original green combining constructicons limped into retail in about 1991 (I remember a branch of Boots in Portsmouth, where I was holidaying at the time, had them. i got Mixmaster, whom i promptly pulled the arm off) and then we got the non-combining New Constructicons in 1992 (the yellow ones).

The only TF figure that I've been really impressed with that we originally missed out on is Perceptor. he's an awesome toy :)

Catalyst Dragon
2010-07-25, 11:52 PM
we got the non-combining New Constructicons in 1992 (the yellow ones).



I had completely forgotten that those didn't combine. I think i had a couple of them too.

S_Windell
2010-07-26, 03:21 AM
I've been curious about this. Were they literally retooled to not combine, or just missing the components?

Skyquake87
2010-07-27, 12:15 PM
Hook was slightly modified to remove the connector pin, so you can't connect Bonecrusher. Scavenger is also missing that flat panel that folds out of his chest, so he cannot be connected to Hook. None of the Devastator parts (Long Haul's waist connector/ wings, Scrapper's chest plate/ jet wings , the forearms that came with Bonecrusher/ Scavenger and the Head module) came with the yellow versions. Mixmaster also had the missile launcher removed, leaving him with an unslightly gap where the trigger for the launcher should be. Unlike his Generation 2 successor, he doesn't come with a non-firing missile accessory to go above his head.

The Wild One
2010-08-03, 06:55 PM
I want to get him. My problem is with getting the wife to let me spend more than a $100 on him. I didn't even pay $180 for my PS3. And those are even more expensive.

skywarp408
2010-08-04, 02:58 AM
I want to get him. My problem is with getting the wife to let me spend more than a $100 on him. I didn't even pay $180 for my PS3. And those are even more expensive.

Simple. Just don't tell her:D