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The Reverend
2012-11-08, 07:59 AM
My wife wants to get me one, but having been burned enough by Takara I said hold off and lets see how badly they ****ed this one up.

Watching video reviews now. So far the design is lauded as "simpler", "clean", et al. The figure is notably small.

More damning, also seeing reports of misassembly and a bad, bubbling paint job. :(

Cliffjumper
2012-11-08, 08:48 AM
I'm holding out for a Hasbro release. I realise paint ops and the like will possibly be simpler but for anything big ticket I do not trust Takara - I want the option of being able to take this thing back to the shop if the quality control's crap rather than having to post it across to Japan.

Denyer
2012-11-08, 01:38 PM
Haven't seen any issues on this one, although Takara's not known for consistency. There aren't many paint apps in the first place. The mould's Alternator-sized as a robot, which was the prospect going in (boxed smaller than Binaltech/Alternators, which makes me think it relatively unlikely Hasbro will add a huge box like they did with Rodimus to jack the price point.)

Using sellers who check their stock should be fine, although cost-wise people are better holding on for a Western release.

The Reverend
2012-11-08, 02:57 PM
I keep hearing about Lambors completely missing their codpieces.

Warcry
2012-11-08, 03:57 PM
The mould's Alternator-sized as a robot
He's way smaller than Alternators Sideswipe (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/526391-generation-one-toys-appreciation-thread-199.html#post8536143). As best as I can tell he's about half-way between the Alternator and Universe molds, and maybe even closer to the latter than the former. There's no way he's anywhere close to 1:24 scale, which is probably a good thing because such a simple design might look ridiculous if it was any bigger. I'm disappointed though, because I was hoping for a good Sideswipe and/or Red Alert that wouldn't look silly on the same shelf as my existing big cars.

Are his tires plastic instead of rubber? They look like it in the pics I've seen. If so, that's a real shame.

Denyer
2012-11-08, 05:43 PM
Smaller in alt-mode, but basically eye-level with the Smokescreen mould.

http://i48.tinypic.com/apfti.jpg

Tyres are plastic, as you say. No strong feeling either way on that one.

Paul053
2012-11-08, 05:50 PM
I just found some pictures of the comparison.

Robot mode with Classics.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8043/8138780947_817e2cf580_b.jpg

Alt mode with Alternators and Classics.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8055/8125533408_360e07bc1a_b.jpg

Sideswipes roundup. Gee.............
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8055/8151042396_7db84e7bde_b.jpg

Warcry
2012-11-08, 06:17 PM
Smaller in alt-mode, but basically eye-level with the Smokescreen mould.
Thanks for the pic. :) That doesn't look too bad, actually. He's obviously got a lot less mass than Smokey, but you could probably fudge that with creative posing. Obviously it's been a long time since I've had Alt Sideswipe out, because I don't remember him being any taller than Smokescreen.

I still wouldn't pay Takara prices for it, or even what Hasbro sold MP Rodimus for, but he's small enough that the asking price might not be too obscene when he eventually gets a western release. Now, to hope for a Hasbro Red Alert with lovely toy-accurate colours instead of the inevitable fugly cartoon ones Takara will use...

Tyres are plastic, as you say. No strong feeling either way on that one.
I've always been a fan of rubber tires. I'm usually not hugely bothered if a figure doesn't have them, but on a premium item like this I think it's kinda shabby to use plastic. Especially since all the other Masterpieces and Alternators do have them.

Tetsuro
2012-11-12, 02:58 AM
There's an easy way to convince someone whether MP Lambor is any good or not - just compare it to the previous MPs. Is it more like MP Grimlock, MP Megatron or MP Rodimus?

Denyer
2012-11-13, 10:23 PM
Will give you a slightly more considered opinion when I've got my hands on Megs (found a used repaired one; it's almost like being a kid again -- the original Megs I got off a friend was also held together with glue) but the answer's going to be Grimlock...

Rodimus (in the packaging, at least) really didn't impress.

Warcry
2012-11-13, 10:36 PM
MP Rodimus is good as long as you never, ever attempt to transform or play with it. And even then you run the risk of his shoulders or knees randomly and irreparably exploding on you. Which is a shame, because it's as close to a spot-on perfect physical representation of Hot Rod's cartoon model as we're ever going to get. He's just really, really over-engineered.

Knightdramon
2012-11-13, 10:44 PM
Well, Rodimus has the distinction of having three out of four releases with QC flaws.

V1: Lots of problems, screws instead of flat pins on leg panels causing them to eat off the plastic in the first transformation, very loose handling of the guns in the arms, problems with the backpack having clearance to snap on his back...I think that's that.

Hasbro: SOME of them have the pins on his shoulders inserted in so wrong that the arm snaps off without provocation, even MISB. Thankfully mine doesn't have it and I've transformed it over 20 times.

Black Takara: I think it's safe to say that due to a problem with extremely tight friction on the ratchet joints, both knees will just break off when moved. And I mean on ALL OF THEM.

I lucked out and found a random restock on HLJ for Sideswipe, so got one on my private warehouse with MP Convoy.

From pictures\reviews and whatnot, I'd place him closer to MP Grimlock for simplicity than Hot Rod\Megatron.

Denyer
2012-11-16, 10:35 PM
Ten minute verdict: Megs is okay as long as you bear in mind that it's a retread of the original (complete with stupidly ****ing big fusion cannon) and that Hasbro should have used the Browning mould if they wanted a gun and either ignored the size difference versus Prime or upscaled it...

Heinrad
2012-12-15, 09:44 PM
Definitely want to get the Hasbro version. Looks like a pretty good figure overall.

Knightdramon
2012-12-15, 10:19 PM
Archer himself said that a US edition might not be valid for quite some time as there's too much negotiating involved for the licensing...

Got Red Alert on my Private Warehouse at hlj, along with some gundam markers. I think I'll wait until Soundwave comes out to ship him though.

Gouki
2012-12-16, 10:05 PM
Anybody got a size comparison with Sideswipe and the other MPs (rather than Alternators)? Preferably Grimlock.

Denyer
2012-12-16, 10:10 PM
The top of SS's shoulders is level with the top of Grimmy's waist bar in robot mode.

And then everything's dwarfed by MP Prime / Megs.

Knightdramon
2012-12-16, 11:25 PM
Best I can do with some MPs\MP-like releases.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x245/Knightdramon/DSC07552.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x245/Knightdramon/DSC07567.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x245/Knightdramon/DSC07558.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x245/Knightdramon/DSC07579.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x245/Knightdramon/DSC07581.jpg

Notabot
2012-12-17, 06:16 PM
Criminy! I didn't realize how small the Masterpieces are getting! That's kind of nuts at that price.

Knightdramon
2012-12-18, 01:57 PM
Once you have them all like that, they gain a charm of a more unified toyline versus standalone releases. While the stupid exchange rates ruin it for the rest of the world, MP Sideswipe is a third of MP Grimlock's price, and so on.

Blackjack
2012-12-18, 02:12 PM
What's that Ratchet? Don't think I've seen that particular mold before. Is that third-party?

Mmm, MP Sideswipe is smaller than what I thought it would be.... although to be fair, it seems right about the perfect size for a Sideswipe toy.

Knightdramon
2012-12-18, 02:45 PM
3rd party Igear medical specialist, that's my Ratchet. Spotting his red comic book head.

As I've said before, Sideswipe follows the balloon up trend; he's one size in one mode, twice that size in the other mode. Much like Animated Lockdown\Rodimus.

If you think that this Sideswipe is small [he's...okay, not huge, but not as small as everybody makes him out to be], wait until the MP Rumble\Frenzy is out. I believe the first one is due in February.

Full robot mode height, they reach Sideswipe's KNEE.

numbat
2013-02-05, 10:45 AM
Finally got my MP-12 Sideswipe last night. (I preordered with MP-13 Soundwave, so had to wait until Soundwave was released too.)

I am actually very impressed by the figure - sure, he's small in comparison to previous Masterpiece releases, but I knew that, and it's an attempt at scale. The engineering is great, though, and that's what matters - fantastic robot mode, great car mode, and well designed transformation. I wouldn't liken him to Binalts at all, for sure - very different style. MP-12 Sideswipe's transformation is totally bespoke and concentrates on giving two great external modes, without fussing over keeping chairs and engines accessible / there. The result is a much nicer and interesting robot mode, which matches the animation model well, while adding in more realistic detailing from the car. Yup, well chuffed. (Those chrome piledrivers look great too!) I did always want a Sideswipe as a kid, and this guy more than fills that space. And my wife views Masterpiece Transformers as acceptable display pieces (despite her negative views on all other TFs!) - so Sideswipe can stay on the shelf!

Not opened MP-13 Soundwave yet - but very excited...

Knightdramon
2013-02-05, 08:52 PM
I'll probably have Soundwave tomorrow, but yes, our views are almost identical for Sideswipe.

Great car mode, awesome retro robot mode...who gives a f*ck if the doors open to reveal a monochrome steering board [which, to date, only BT Prowl ever had paint on] that interferes with the figure and gives the robot mode chair kibble somewhere, like the Alternities?

I'm having Red Alert and Soundwave HOPEFULLY tomorrow [along with a nifty surprise], but now you can finally see what it feels like to expect an MP Prowl, vintage\retro style, from this line ;)

numbat
2013-02-06, 06:53 PM
Yeah, that's exactly it - Sideswipe is exactly what I want from Masterpiece. Lovely perfectly engineered retro-styled figure.

I had Soundwave out briefly last night. Sadly no time to fiddle about, but he certainly looks gorgeous. Lovely finish - it's like Soundwave walked out the G1 cartoon! Sadly working this evening, but looking forward to playing with him tomorrow (I hope!).

Knightdramon
2013-03-02, 05:16 PM
Anybody still on the fence about MP Sideswipe and\or Red Alert, BUY ONE NOW.

I'm not saying this because they are fantastic figures and I love both, but there's talk of a licensing fail between Takara and Lamborghini over the LP500S model. So the license over that particular model is cancelled as far as I know, meaning no second run.

Not sure why, the knowledgeable guy at TFW2005 didn't cite a particular reason ["weak" paint over Sideswipe that Lamborghini didn't exactly love on their product?], and Tigertracks is safe for now on.

Asking about Sunstreaker, he said that he's mostly a custom car, and that whatever the reason, the disagreement\revoke only applies to the car Sideswipe and Red Alert are.

Meh. Glad I got mine on release.

The Reverend
2013-03-02, 07:18 PM
Dammit, and here I am still scraping to get one. Vet bills for the cats were high this month.

Knightdramon
2013-03-02, 09:07 PM
Sell or trade stuff towards it. If I had a second one I wouldn't mind unloading it, I've actually been lucky enough to get every MP from 10 to Soundwave and Red Alert as cheap as humanly possible.

The risk with Sideswipe is that you may get one with "bad" paint. Even mine has small blemishes but I don't consider them faults. Perhaps there's fans who over-exaggerate their copy's faults and may be selling him for cheap.

If the above is really true [quite possibly if it was reported by a specific person], I'm miffed that we're losing on a G2 MP Sideswipe.

The Reverend
2013-04-03, 04:08 AM
and I STILL didn't manage to get one. Ack!

Addl
2013-04-14, 12:20 AM
Well at eBay .com the MP sideswipe sells for about 160$ so generally okay in my taste and a lot available

numbat
2013-04-20, 12:53 PM
Robotkingdom has restocked on MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe (with Amazon exclusive piledrivers) - $149.90 USD (man am I glad I preordered him at $70-odd USD!)

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=Category&II=TFTRMP12AMA&lang=us&CatID=1_42

Also restocked on MP-15 Rumble & Ravage - $59.90 USD (again, glad I preordered at half the price!!)

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=Category&II=TFTRMP15&lang=us&CatID=1_42

So if you want to grab these guys, those are pretty good prices currently. But in answer to anyone who asks why I preorder things, I think the hike in prices and limited availability here speak for themselves!

My Sideswipe doesn't seem to have any paint blemishes that I've noticed, and he's a really neat figure.

The only Masterpiece figure I have with paint issues seems to be Frenzy who has a paint error on his face...

Of the cassettes I'd highly recommend Rumble & Ravage (for Ravage really - he's awesome!).

Knightdramon
2013-04-20, 04:44 PM
Rumble and Ravage never went out of stock as far as I know...just once they came out, they upped the price to 59 USD.

Sideswipe's prices are reaching absurd levels. I paid about a third of that price for mine!!!! :lol: He's a VERY good figure, but not 3 times over retail good.

Same thing with the 4 tapes. Limited availability and overpriced tags make them a no-go for me. No matter how you justify it, 120 + USD for these tiny guys is ridiculous. I think it's my first wake up call with the hobby so far. I didn't mind the 200+ USD MP10, I didn't mind [though I have no plans to purchase him] the 300 USD Fortress Maximus reissue, but I sure as hell mind those four!!!

Rack 'n Ruin
2013-04-20, 04:54 PM
I think it's my first wake up call with the hobby so far. I didn't mind the 200+ USD MP10, I didn't mind [though I have no plans to purchase him] the 300 USD Fortress Maximus reissue, but I sure as hell mind those four!!!

This. This hobby of ours isn't the cheapest sometimes, but I've always felt able to get value for money more times than not. The new MP line, though, is something else. I'd have loved to have collected all the MP cars, but the price they are is too high (imho, ymmv) when you consider the figure size and the likelihood the TT will screw up design/paint/build quality. I just can't risk importing a figure like MP Sideswipe when it could be covered in paint flaws. I'll just pick up whatever I like that filters through to normal UK retail.

On the positive side, I do get to save more money that way. Maybe it is time to dial back the collecting.

Knightdramon
2013-04-20, 05:14 PM
To be honest, autobot cars at around 50-60 USD I can stomach if they look decent enough.

Somewhat strangely though, I've only purchased like 4 figures this year, and it'll probably stay like that until Prowl and Streak are out and TRU Soundwave hits UK.

Scaling back and downsizing is what I enjoy at the moment. The last 4 Hasbro MPs are so decent [Rodimus was a perfect bang for back, Thundercracker is GREAT, Prime does not look ridiculous next to a takara version and Soundwave is probably the best value for pack deal of the franchise] that it made me question scrounging for the big names from takara.

numbat
2013-04-20, 06:00 PM
I think the MP Autobot cars are reasonably priced if Sideswipe's quality is anything to go by. However, I'd never buy all of them, just the ones that really mean something to me.

I try and get the Masterpiece version that suits my nostalgia needs the best, and so far that is usually Takara with one notable exception: I far prefer the Hasbro deco of MP-10 Prime.

Given the figures are premium versions of the characters, I'm happy paying a higher price for the version that I'll be happiest with, if the prices are not radically different. Given both Hasbro and Takara releases usually are expensive anyway, and either is likely to require import to the UK (with the odd exceptions - but there's no way you can bank on a UK release at all, and by the time you've waited 6 months or more for it to turn out it's not happening, the aftermarket values will make the US or Japanese versions unaffordable...), the difference is not usually huge at release. It's the aftermarket values that become a problem, so if a Masterpiece figure I want comes up for preorder when I have the finances to afford it, I order it. I've missed out on any version of Rodimus or Grimlock (so far) because they came out when I didn't have the finances and now they cost way too much.

I don't have an interest in a lot of the releases, fortunately - Prowl, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Bluestreak, Red Alert, Tigertrack... They can all stay in the stores.

Knightdramon
2013-04-20, 07:05 PM
I don't have an interest in a lot of the releases, fortunately - Prowl, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Bluestreak, Red Alert, Tigertrack... They can all stay in the stores.

Heretic!!! Burn him!!! :lol: If it wasn't for the comics I wouldn't be so hot on the bolded ones either.

With whatever pictures of Prowl\Streak they've put out, it seems that they're continuing the magic of Sideswipe\Red Alert. I guess everybody's filters are different [don't think I've lifted an eyelid for MP Acid Storm, and Black Convoy\Sunstorm\Black Rodimus leave me cold], and pretty much my filters stopped with the tapes. Not saying I won't get them with the TRU release, but it certainly stopped me cold from trying to get the Takara ones. I'll probably even sell my Takara Soundwave at the point of procurement of a us\uk one, maybe even earlier!

numbat
2013-04-21, 05:54 PM
Masterpiece Acid Storm!?!?! For real?

I understand they want to get as much mileage as they can from moulds, but there can't be much of a market for total non-characters at such a premium pricepoint.

Yeah - Never paid any attention to the black versions of Prime or Rodimus. Just weird.

Photos of the Prowl/Streak mould looks good. I've preordered Smokescreen, who was my first Autobot car as a kid.

My brother was always a Prowl and Jazz fan - I think sibling rivalry has a lot to do with my preferences as much as the fiction.

;)

Knightdramon
2013-04-21, 06:18 PM
Yeah, and Acid Storm looks hideous. Just plain crap hideous. (http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/us-masterpiece-transformers-497/acid-storm-7026/)

Funny thing about the autobot cars, as a kid I had very, very fond memories of a friend of mine and his siblings. We each had generally different autobot cars. I had Ironhide, Sunstreaker and Inferno, they had Sideswipe, Tracks and Jazz. I always wanted Tracks and Sideswipe as a result of childhood jealousy, I'm halfway there already!!

And something about Prowl's car chest and angled door wings ALWAYS hits a nostalgia chord within me, so I rushed to preorder him at day 1.

Skyquake87
2013-04-21, 06:34 PM
Er...I quite like that Acid Storm..! Its totally mental and an inappropriate repaint and i can't see folk rushing to buy this guy, but the character does have a profile of sorts these days, thanks to the Classics toy and what have you.

Knightdramon
2013-04-21, 07:26 PM
The further away hasbro\takara seem to be moving from the 3 traditional seekers, the lowest their sales will end up.

Most of the seekers appear to be animation errors regardless :lol:

I think that the further away you move from the traditional character in terms of repaints, the lower your sales will be and the less prerogative for pumping out more figures there will be. Starscream sells well because he's Starscream, as evidenced by his green, white and classic printings all selling out. Skywarp is arguably the fan favourite deco but he shelfwarmed, US Thundercracker sold as well because he was the newest mould marketed at a lower price. Sunstorm, for all his limited, one issue, exclusive status, is STILL available since August. I don't think Acid Storm will fare much better. Let's just hope Hasbro won't shoot themselves on the foot and declare there's no market for MP figures based on his sales.

numbat
2013-04-22, 09:11 PM
Man that MP Acid Storm looks worse than I imagined!

Did Hasbro do any marketing before committing to that? Have they hired Disney's marketing team responsible for John Carter's disasterous release?

Surely the best way to make money out of the new MP Seeker mould would be for Hasbro to release it in Starscream's colours? Seems to be working well for Takara!

The Reverend
2013-04-22, 09:19 PM
No kidding... I mean, I know they wanna get as much mileage out of the thing as possible, but geeeeeeeez. Put the Seeker mold away already!

Knightdramon
2013-04-22, 09:28 PM
I think that takara is working with hasbro on the decos to make each release marketable to both markets, regardless of which figures they already have.

No matter what they try, a US Starscream with the new mould will be a MP11 Starscream lite, there's not enough differences to warrant a double dip. What can they do, make him white again? Too similar to MP03 USA.

With a new seeker colourscheme, they can make it desirable, or what passes as desirable with that colour, to both markets.

The Reverend
2013-04-28, 04:43 PM
I don't even mind the color, but... its Acid Storm, a one-shotter.

Denyer
2013-04-28, 04:47 PM
Mmm. At the price point it needs to be something whizz-bang new in terms of alt mode plus engineering (and this is a slight variation) -- or a "name" character.

Addl
2013-05-19, 11:46 PM
I did find MP sideswipe here, although it was not in the shelf and the store owner went in the back to get it, saying it was the last one, returned by a customer.

I checked it and he gave it away for 55 eur.

So this made my Sunday happy and you can see my daughter with her new toy :-)

Notabot
2013-05-20, 02:16 AM
That's adorable!

And your daughter is cute too. :)

Denyer
2013-08-25, 11:54 AM
Don't know how reliable they'd be, but this seller's currently got various cheap loose Sideswipes and Red Alerts:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_from=&_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ssn=366offer&_ipg=200&rt=nc

Denyer
2013-08-25, 11:56 AM
Okay, bit weird... are we expecting a Hasbro version imminently? There are others around as cheap as 25 shipped:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111141530292

Skyquake87
2013-08-25, 11:56 AM
I saw those and thought 'Hmm...From China. what are the chances the item takes ages to come and when it does its some cheap jewellery instead?'


Oh, even better its factory seconds and stolen goods!

Denyer
2013-08-25, 12:21 PM
It's difficult to keep accounts by stiffing people with different items altogether, and most feedback's good.

factory seconds and stolen goods
Fairly probable. On the other hand, the products involve workforce exploitation most of Europe would consider criminal.

Cliffjumper
2013-08-25, 01:12 PM
Well, I've bit. I may well have bought Movie figs off the guy (though a lot of the Asian sellers have similar stock, auctions etc.).

Denyer
2013-08-25, 02:53 PM
If further down the road they get hold of any of the G2 redeco, I'll definitely take a punt... not spending upwards of fifty quid on a second example of the mould.

Cliffjumper
2013-08-25, 03:47 PM
Yeh, personally would've preferred that one but 25 fits nicely with the old budget. Would have preferred Red to both, but not with that stupid red head.

Same guy also has HA Jazz for 25, which I'd highly recommend. Nice to see Leadfoot's still holding price, might be having a bit of a clearout myself.

Denyer
2013-08-25, 04:11 PM
Cheap Classics stuff as well... just snagged a Drag Strip.

Clay
2013-08-25, 04:39 PM
Okay, bit weird... are we expecting a Hasbro version imminently? There are others around as cheap as 25 shipped:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111141530292

I imagine that would be the knock off version. (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/944835-ko-original-version-mp-12-comparison-images.html)

Denyer
2013-08-25, 04:49 PM
So if the difference boils down to minor QC with the head and paint, how would that be different to Takara's normal processes?

Clay
2013-08-25, 05:19 PM
So if the difference boils down to minor QC with the head and paint, how would that be different to Takara's normal processes?

Ooh, burn!

Cliffjumper
2013-08-25, 05:56 PM
Soon find out - plus if it's a KO and it's shite I can probably get the moolah back through Paypal. TBH if the official one was only, say, 40 + it'd be outside the range of what I'd feel is fair to spend on toys.

If it's an outright bootleg I won't be fussed if it's good enough quality, I just hope they'll do the others too. Again, with 3rd party and the like out there there's less and less need to get stuff which is 100% bonafide unless you're buying with an eye on profit.

inflatable dalek
2013-08-25, 06:56 PM
Bootleg or not, it's a rather lovely toy so as long as the QC isn't too shody it should be more than worth the money.

Cliffjumper
2013-08-25, 08:10 PM
I'm doing this wrong, aren't I? I should be demanding the real thing for the knockoff price, shouldn't I?

Knightdramon
2013-08-26, 10:43 AM
By UK standards, as long as you get in a preorder at HLJ or Anime Export, price before shipping is around 30 to 35 GBP.

Cliffjumper
2013-08-26, 01:50 PM
Before shipping... before customs... before getting on the magic roulette wheel of Takara quality control (seriously, I've had fewer problems with Chinese bootleggers)...

Knightdramon
2013-08-26, 02:35 PM
How much are customs for that, actually?

I have had this idea for some time now, to organize bulk European orders to my house in Greece [where customs are almost non existent] and ship them out to UK/other European addresses if the cost is worth it to other people.

Though that might take some time to organize since I'm in the UK now...

Cliffjumper
2013-08-26, 03:41 PM
How much are customs for that, actually?

~25 usually. Not a problem with dodgy HK sellers who mark as gift worth 10; big problem with legit businesses; I think every HLJ order I've ever done's been caught, I just started factoring it in in the end.

Knightdramon
2013-08-26, 10:23 PM
Hmmm...so my idea could be profitable enough to work.

Will try to figure out the logistics, but if customs are around 25 pounds on top of shipping and all that, then it is cheaper to pay for (discounted, since I'll have things in my orders as well] shipping to Greece and then to UK.

Cliffjumper
2013-09-12, 02:07 PM
Okay, it has arrived.

On the figure - very good, which was a pleasant surprise (no offence, but some of you think Generations figures are good). Transformation isn't over-fussy, size is good, alt mode looks like an actual car (paying money for other people's ideas has upsides, Takara!), good range of poses, nice extras, some inventive little bits of engineering. Only flaw is the shoulders - am I doing something wrong or do they just float there half an inch back from where they're meant to be?

On the KO - well, you can tell it's a high-end KO. Paint's a bit feely and doesn't feel hugely robust. Lambo badge is just a smudge (though at first glance a spare from the G1 version would cover nicely) and the text on the rear is both dicey and spelt wrong (though that I can personally give or take). Seems well-enough made; felt a bit fragile first time around (too stiff) but that probably goes for the TakaraTomyTackyTakeaway version. Basically the obvious trade-off for paying half price. Also had the Amazon chrome piledrivers (well, copies thereof) included.

Seriously tempted by one of the dodgy Red Alerts now.

inflatable dalek
2013-09-12, 06:58 PM
(no offence, but some of you think Generations figures are good).

At least you respect our opinions.

Never really felt the shoulders were off on mine, and the official one is surprisingly sturdy (more at the Grimlock end than the DEAR GOD WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MEGATRON?!?!?!?! side). Still, for the price looks like you got a bargain.

And answer your PM's once in a while!

The Reverend
2013-12-21, 11:18 PM
Dunno if anyone's seen it yet, but BBTS' text on their site says that the second production run of MP Sideswipe (March) "the QC issues present in the initial release of MP-12 should be resolved for this production run."

Good news if you hadn't gotten it yet, but its kind of annoying that you never know if you should plunk down for an MP when it gets released.

numbat
2013-12-22, 09:07 AM
What QC issues? Thankfully mine is perfect.

But, yeah, would be nice if you were pretty much guarunteed a functional MP figure on first release: that's why I've never bought Rodimus, just too risky!

The Reverend
2013-12-23, 01:38 AM
As I recall, paint app and assembly issues (panels not fitting together, misassembled hips...)

Knightdramon
2013-12-24, 01:59 PM
The only QC issues present on the first runs were some paint overspray on various parts, or "paint bubbles that totally ruin the figure 1mm below the read fender".

My Sideswipe is actually much tighter than the Red Alert I have [both first run japanese releases].

Both have looser joints than the uber stiff Datsun mould.