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The Reverend
2013-02-27, 10:51 PM
I always found it interesting that the G1 Transformers appeared to have been given a fair amount of thought in their naming - usually related to their particular abilities, personalities, etc. Especially in the early years (later on, I think they just named the Micromasters randomly). But WTF does "Wreck-Gar" mean?!?

Terome
2013-02-27, 11:47 PM
If I recall correctly, Budiansky named everyone (or at least prepared a shortlist of names to get past Hasbro's legal department) EXCEPT the movie cast. So while 'Hot Rod' and 'Blurr' are fairly standard and 'Ultra Magnus' works as intended, we get nonsense names like 'Arcee,' 'Kup,' and indeed 'Wreck-Gar.' I don't think anyone has so far taken credit for naming them.

That said, 'Cyclonus' is a nonsense name that is pretty cool for some reason.

I wonder if a single human being was responsible for the very silly names of Beast Wars or if they were committeed together with the lights off.

Red Dave Prime
2013-02-27, 11:59 PM
If I recall correctly, Budiansky named everyone (or at least prepared a shortlist of names to get past Hasbro's legal department) EXCEPT the movie cast. So while 'Hot Rod' and 'Blurr' are fairly standard and 'Ultra Magnus' works as intended, we get nonsense names like 'Arcee,' 'Kup,' and indeed 'Wreck-Gar.' I don't think anyone has so far taken credit for naming them.

That said, 'Cyclonus' is a nonsense name that is pretty cool for some reason.

I wonder if a single human being was responsible for the very silly names of Beast Wars or if they were committeed together with the lights off.

Ah, I think Kup is a good fit for the Character.

This probably isnt it but according to a quick search gar in latin means to cause something (I could be very wrong here, the website isnt the best) so is it possible his name means to cause wreckage?

Springer85
2013-02-28, 12:10 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Wreck-Gar was short for Wreckage-Garbage. With him being a Junkion and all. :)

Terome
2013-02-28, 12:22 AM
Ah, I think Kup is a good fit for the Character.


I like Kup as a name too. It is fun to say. But it doesn't really mean anything the way that 'Cliffjumper' or 'Sandstorm' does. He might as well be called Keith.

Clay
2013-02-28, 02:02 AM
Kup is a pickup truck.
Arcee is an R/C car, remote control car.
Hot Rod is... a hot rod car.
Wreck Gar could be car wreck, or wrecker/garbage.

Cliffjumper
2013-02-28, 02:50 AM
Yeh, I think the TF:TM cast's names are a little bit more nonsensical and tangenty just to sound more futuristic. Most of them sound a bit like words but also largely nicely different from all those shitty extant characters you now hate because they've just been butchered. It's just a crasser version of the 'jam two words together, slap on a tech spec' stuff Bob did with the odd twist. The leaders are the most obvious - Hot Rod Prime and a galvanised Megatron.

The Movie is probably, overall, still the most mental and suicidal thing Hasbro have ever done. Wipe out the successful and popular cast (preferably in the most traumatic way possible), replace them with thumbnail sketches who have really terrible toys. Add Stan Bush and a bunch of 9th-rate celebs (carefully picking ones who are still just about big enough not to do the TV series), make it as violent as possible to exclude 99% of the likely audience - maybe throw in a swear to make sure of the job. Wait for the box office to roll in.

The Reverend
2013-02-28, 04:21 AM
(chuckle) I always thought "Hot Rod" and "Springer" were unfortunate names that might have been better off with the Village People or something. Hey, you see that young guy Hot Rod doin his thing?

inflatable dalek
2013-02-28, 04:55 AM
Arcee is probably has the silliest thinking behind it as she's not remote control.

Mind, Optimus Prime, the one name from the orginal line up that we know for sure wasn't Bob's, doesn't fit the standard naming convention either. I wonder what a Budiansky style name for him would be?

Terome
2013-02-28, 10:06 AM
Big Daddy.


- did Bob name the Micromasters? I can believe he did. They come across as the creation of a man on the ropes. Still some good ones in there though. Pity that 'Fixit' has become one of those names that has an extra layer of association to it in the UK.

Red Dave Prime
2013-02-28, 10:44 AM
I now want the new version of the wreckers to contain Springer, Impactor, Whirl and Keith.

Funny aside: My Mom used to mind the neighbours kid and he loved the cartoon movie (I had the vhs of it and this was a good 5 or so years after the release and he was only 4) but he always thought that Optimus Primes name was "Brian" which I found cute.

Cliffjumper
2013-02-28, 01:06 PM
he always thought that Optimus Primes name was "Brian" which I found cute.

Did he by any chance end up working at a Hong Kong TV station?

Red Dave Prime
2013-02-28, 01:33 PM
Not to my knowledge. I have to ask.. why?

Jaynz
2013-02-28, 02:42 PM
Not to my knowledge. I have to ask.. why?

Catch the Headmaster's Hong Kong dub some time...

Skyquake87
2013-02-28, 02:43 PM
The Star TV dub of Headmasters has all sorts of brilliant Ingrish dubbing. Blaster is called Billy and other nonsense like that. I don't know if the US version of Headmasters retains the dub on the DVDs, the UK Metrodome release does. Its funny for five seconds and then outstays its welcome.

The Reverend
2013-02-28, 03:18 PM
"Spaceship Bruce"!

Yeah, the MM's names are a bit cringe-worthy at times. Some of em aren't bad, but others are unfortunate - Heave, especially :)

Cliffjumper
2013-02-28, 03:29 PM
Yeah, the MM's names are a bit cringe-worthy at times. Some of em aren't bad, but others are unfortunate - Heave, especially :)

Agreed; overall they didn't do badly considering they had to drum up, what, fifty, sixty, seventy new names for the things in a couple of years right at the end of the line. But still, they're either stupid (Cement Head and Terror Tread, who sound like a Nickleodeon cartoon pitched at 14 year old Gen Xers) or just words related to their alt modes with minimal imagination (Stakeout, Flak, Hubs). And some of them just don't really make much sense - Sidetrack, Roadhandler (he handles on roads? Should ****ing think so...), Roadhugger (he has grippy tyres... wow, I'm scared...).

Red Dave Prime
2013-02-28, 03:48 PM
That spaceship Bruce thing is fantastic.

Maybe when Maximus returns from his breakdown in MTMTE he could have a new personality - the super-camp spaceship Bruce!

I reckon naming Transformers is a tricky enough prospect. The name needs to appeal to kids first and foremost and suit the toy (hence why so many are linked to the alt-mode) As silly as Road Hugger and Cliff Jumper sound (kidding!!!!) they work better for a toy series than Xaaron would.

Terome
2013-02-28, 04:05 PM
I reckon naming Transformers is a tricky enough prospect. The name needs to appeal to kids first and foremost and suit the toy (hence why so many are linked to the alt-mode) As silly as Road Hugger and Cliff Jumper sound (kidding!!!!) they work better for a toy series than Xaaron would.

Xaaron is quite a bad name, isn't it? Furman took a while to get the hang of the naming conventions. 'Impactor' is an early one that works, but 'Toomandi,' 'Tornado,' 'Flame,' and 'Triton' just don't cut it.

Always liked 'Flak' from the Micromasters, myself. You're right that there's no imagination to it but it's a good roboty name.

On these thoughts, 'Trainwreck' might have been a good alternate name for Wreck-Gar. Sure, he's not a train, but it sort of links in to the idea of the Junkions as being accustomed to limb-rending damage on a daily basis.

Death's Head
2013-02-28, 07:31 PM
Rodney the Headmaster Warrior. (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Rodney)

Notabot
2013-03-05, 05:40 AM
Kup is a pickup truck.


Do you realize that I never realized that? I always wondered about the name Kup and thought it was stupid. It never dawned me, this whole entire time, that it actually made sense. I'm a bad fan. :(

dubbilex
2013-03-05, 07:06 AM
According to the TFWiki:

"One of them (WRECK-GAR) has a rusty junk metal version of a Viking helmet and a BRILLO like wooly wiremetal vest." --The 4/27/1985 draft of The Transformers: The Movie[2]

Given the above quote, we're going to take a painful leap to the conclusion that Wreck-Gar was named after the famed newspaper comic strip Viking, Hägar the Horrible.

Knowing nothing about that strip, I have to say that sounds like a huge stretch, though.

I used to get annoyed at Transformer names that didn't mean anything on account of them not meaning anything, but these days I don't mind because I suppose it's "realistic" that on an entire planet, not everyone would be using the same kinds of naming conventions.

Having read James Roberts' Eugenesis not too long ago, one thing I found interesting -- because it says something about how he views the whole business -- was how almost all of his invented names either don't mean a darn thing (Emyrissususus) or have nothing to actually do with the characters (Signet, Quark [who wasn't a scientist], Throwback). He seemed to think of them more as just plain ol' names than meaningful code-names.

inflatable dalek
2013-03-05, 07:17 AM
Would Americans have the slightest clue about Hagar? With all the jokes about going to raid English castles I'd have assumed it was a UK only thing.

tahukanuva
2013-03-05, 08:06 AM
No, it's a thing here. No one thinks much of it though since all the punchlines are "wife makes dinner".

Skyquake87
2013-03-05, 08:40 AM
Isn't Wreck Gar, being a Junkion and dwelling on a a planet that is basically a giant waste disposal tip an assembly of Wreckage - Garbage. That's what I always thought, given what he is.

And the Kup - Pickup Truck thinhg is explicitly mentioned in his Transformers Universe profile.

The Reverend
2013-03-05, 09:04 PM
That spaceship Bruce thing is fantastic.

Maybe when Maximus returns from his breakdown in MTMTE he could have a new personality - the super-camp spaceship Bruce!

As my cousin put it, "YOU BETTER NOT BE HANGING AROUND WITH SPACESHIP BRUCE! I WARNED YOU ABOUT HIM!"

The Reverend
2013-03-05, 09:05 PM
Rodney the Headmaster Warrior. (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Rodney)

Rodney I have. I can't get TFArchive to post his robot mode pic on his review tho! :)

Securis
2013-06-21, 06:20 PM
Yeh, I think the TF:TM cast's names are a little bit more nonsensical and tangenty just to sound more futuristic.


Exactly. My interpretation of names like Kup and Wreck-Gar, from the time I first saw the movie, was that - in addition to the (possibly unsubstantiated) assumption that their names are more alien-like because they may have spent time on other worlds besides Cybertron or Earth, where they may have acquired designations they wanted to continue using afterward.

I actually like both mentioned names, though I never much cared for Arcee as a name. Seemed clear enough to me that she was not remote controlled.

Ryan F
2013-06-22, 12:42 AM
Some of the G1 names were, in retrospect, a bit odd.

In my school playground, we had a joke, that if Arcee and Sideswipe had a kid together, it would be called Arcewipe.

And, for me, Spinister always sounded like it should be a name for a terse, middle-aged female Transformer who never got married.

Mr_Hi_n_Mitey
2013-07-06, 08:43 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Wreck-Gar was short for Wreckage-Garbage. With him being a Junkion and all. :)



I used to think the same way too, Springer85! ;)



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Inaction Master
2013-07-07, 02:25 AM
I always thought it was the Wreckage-Garbage thing. That's how they put it in Animated.

Skywarp the Seeker
2013-08-09, 01:40 PM
Jazz: "Skids, on your mark!"

Skids: "Doesn't that joke ever get old?"

Jazz: "No."

Skids: "I could punch whomever named me..."

Ryan F
2013-08-10, 05:29 PM
Skids: "Hey, Jazz, these humans seem you like you an awful lot!"

Jazz: "Huh? What do you mean?"

Skids: "Well I heard that many human males subscribe to publications dedicated to you."

Jazz: "Oh wow, that's great!"

Skids: "Yeah, 'Jazz mags' are quite popular, so I'm told..."