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ganon578
2013-05-21, 10:02 PM
...I guess you can throw Wii U in there too, though it's more like current generation hardware with a fancy tablet.

And please don't drop any fanboy trolling on here, there's no need for that anywhere.

Now that the Microsoft reveal is over with, we know for sure that there will be two new consoles to consider in the next year or so. The PS4 dropped with a big splash a while back, the impending Xbox reveal just wrapped up earlier today, and the Wii U has been on the market for a bit, but has gone quite stagnant due to the lack of killer software (which will hopefully pick up in the coming months).

So where is your money going? Nowhere? Anywhere? All three?

Personally, I will be sitting it all out for a while for a number of reasons, but not that I am uninterested in the hardware (quite the opposite, actually):

1) I just got my 360 2.5 years ago and my PS3 1.5 years ago. With the limited gameplay time I have, there's still a massive library out there for me to play on both of those consoles.

2) With a family, house, and two vehicles to keep up with, I don't have $300-$500 USD lying around waiting to be spent on a new console.

3) Nintendo hasn't sold me on their system... yet. I'm a diehard for their systems and software, but I have no idea when Zelda or the next 3D Mario is coming. Pikmin (as charming as it is) isn't winning me over anytime soon. Currently there's just not much to play there that I can't enjoy on a system I already own.

So whenever I get around to it (however many years from now), I will pick up one of these three. At this point I don't have much allegiance to any company (save for Zelda). I enjoy playing Halo and the XBL experience as a whole over PSN, and I'm rather happy with the 360 controller. The PS3, however, has gained a lot of momentum in my basement lately, due to the games I have picked up for it, a change to a new controller (Afterglow Wireless), and the built-in Bluray player. It's all up in the air for me!

Anyone investing this year?

Sades
2013-05-22, 01:58 AM
Xbox One. If I'm lucky enough to have enough disposable income at some point/generous relatives who will chip in for it come the holiday season...

Notabot
2013-05-22, 02:38 AM
I'm a Playstation guy through and through, but I have never purchased a system until at least 2 years after it's out. Mostly for monetary reasons, partly because I too have a backlog that keeps me entertained just fine, and because it usually takes a while for them to get the bugs out and come up with what people actually want anyway. (The initial design of the PS3 was soooooo ugly!)
So I'm not buying anything until probably Black Friday of 2014. :)

angloconvoy
2013-05-22, 02:24 PM
Not even slightly excited about either console yet. In fact, given the way they're increasingly becoming crap PCs (a trend that really started with the current generation) I'm getting more and more attracted to the idea of just building a gaming pc and abandoning consoles. Console-wise, my next purchase is most likely to be PS Vita.

Springer85
2013-05-22, 02:59 PM
I'm a Playstation guy through and through, but I have never purchased a system until at least 2 years after it's out.

This. :up:

I'm probably going to spend my money on a PS4 eventually, because I've always had a PS system. :)

Cyberstrike nTo
2013-05-22, 04:40 PM
The one that is the cheapest.

StoneCold Skywarp
2013-05-22, 05:08 PM
Console-wise, my next purchase is most likely to be PS Vita.

:up::up::up:

I'm sorely tempted by the vita too. Thing is I have the PSP Go! and never use it, same as my Nintendo DS, so can't justify the spend even with all the free games on PS+

TBH, I would go for the ps4. I've never really cared for the Xbox systems at all (and I've sold enough of them in the past!) and nothing in the presentation really wowed me.

I don't care about kinect or any of that stuff. The thing that should sell these consoles are the games.

I put on Facebook that I'm more likely to pick up the PS4 but only when it drops to the 200 mark. The PS3 I have is more than capable of doing everything I need it to: blu-ray player, media hub, games consoles, streaming content.

Happy days.

Warcry
2013-05-22, 07:03 PM
I've got zero interest in any of the three so far, and it'll probably take a while before that changes.

partly because I too have a backlog that keeps me entertained just fine
This is basically my attitude to any new console launch. If there's only going to be one or two games I want to play on it, I'm not going to buy the thing. I got my Wii in 2011 and my 360 last year, and I've got a solid backlog of games I want to play on both before I move on to a new system.

I don't care about kinect or any of that stuff. The thing that should sell these consoles are the games.
Same here. The Xbox team spent their whole presentation going on about how you can use the thing for social networking, how it can work as a cable box, how Kinect can do voice commands, etc, etc, but didn't say a single word about gameplay, which says to me that they don't really understand their own target market. Nobody is going to buy an Xbox for any of those things -- they'll buy it for the games, with the rest being a nice bonus. I mean, my wife and I use our current consoles for Netflix a lot but we'd never buy one just for Netflix.

The lack of backwards compatibility is a real failure too, especially since the 360 doesn't exactly have a reputation for robustness. Whether I get a PS4 or the new Xbox I'll have to keep a 360 on hand to play my 360 games regardless, which is going to hurt the brand loyalty they've developed as people moved from the original Xbox to the 360 (or from the PS1 to it's two successors). This is one area where the WiiU has a leg up on the competition.

inflatable dalek
2013-05-22, 08:30 PM
Slightly dumb non gamer question, but why are they calling it X-Box One? It makes it sound 359 times less good than the 360...

Warcry
2013-05-22, 08:41 PM
The implication is that it's the one piece of entertainment-related hardware that you'll need in your home because it does "everything", I think.

Denyer
2013-05-22, 09:10 PM
Not fussed, really. The stuff I play occasionally is on the Wii and PS2 and more about the games (and pvp) than the hardware and graphics. Not interested in HD TV -- I watch most things on a tablet these days, if at all, since it's easy to stream to one.

Lots of things hit "good enough" quite some time back, IMO. And retro stuff's often more appealing and has been thoroughly vetted by years of re-appraisal.

Knightdramon
2013-05-22, 10:14 PM
PS4 through and through, but not until a year or more has passed since launch.

It appears, as I'm getting older, than I'm giving less a damn for franchises than I did when I was younger.

Earlier on, it's which console would get more resident evil titles [which got me a camecube]. After playing only the first half of RE5 and quitting, I'm not into it anymore.

So now its Dead Space, MGS, God of War and the WFC/FOC games. So probably a PS4 for all of them.

Notabot
2013-05-22, 11:34 PM
Slightly dumb non gamer question, but why are they calling it X-Box One? It makes it sound 359 times less good than the 360...

Microsoft has a thing for non-linear numbering. Windows 95, then 98, then 7. I think it's determined less by logic and reason and more by Yahtzee.

Heinrad
2013-05-23, 01:20 AM
I'll probably go PS4. After it's been out for a bit.

A friend of mine wanted me to get a WiiU a while ago, but I said I'd rather stick with my 3DS. When I asked him a few weeks ago, he said just get a Wii, because Nintendo dropped the ball on putting stuff out for the U.

Clay
2013-05-23, 02:35 AM
I think this image neatly illustrates the problem with subsequent console generations:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/a4a47b78_ChsSwUE.png

Even as the polygon count increases exponentially, the perception of increased detail plateaus. And if that's the case, you have little reason to buy a new console if your existing equipment has plenty of titles that are fun to play.

Notabot
2013-05-23, 05:56 PM
That's a great illustration! I'll have to keep that one.
Remember when the Playstation came out and we were so impressed with how lifelike the images were? Or (if you can remember) how amazing the Atari 7800 was compared to the 2600? There really isn't anything right now that can be revolutionized, is there, graphics or otherwise?

Denyer
2013-05-23, 06:38 PM
Even as the polygon count increases exponentially, the perception of increased detail plateaus.
True, but rendering realistic light sources requires a hell of a lot of processing power, and getting it a bit wrong (especially faces) means you end up in uncanny valley territory.

ganon578
2013-05-23, 07:51 PM
Interesting to see a lot of you are on the same boat as I am:

Wait for a while and get it when it's cheaper and the current console cycle really dies out. I used to be a day-one kind of guy... I managed by some act of God to actually get a Wii on launch day by pure luck, and my original DS was a launch day system too. As time has worn on, I'm not as fussed to get these things the day they arrive. The Wii U is a great example; had I bought one of those at launch it would have been moot since those things are shelf-warming worse than DOTM Bumblebees.

As for graphics, I don't believe I will be incredibly impressed with what comes out on this next cycle. There are still a lot of games on the 360/PS3 that I marvel at (God of War: Ascension being a recent example).

And I don't really have any desire to buy a system for the multimedia capabilities. Bluray player? Sure. My PS3 does that. And I already have DirecTV, so there really isn't a drive for me to do Netflix or Hulu Plus on a system.

Knightdramon
2013-05-23, 09:10 PM
On that topic, how many of you actually play games for longer than 5 hours a week anymore?

When I was in primary school/junior high, I'd easily clock in around 9 hours daily on my PSX.

High school, got up to 13 hours or so on my PS2/gamecube each day.

2009 when I got the PS3, I played MGS4 for like 5 hours straight just to finish the first chapter because I had no clue the game auto saved and didn't want to lose anything.

Today I played for like 30 minutes FOC on my PS3...and it's the first time I've played any console videogame since early February.

So yes...it'll be a while before I commit to any new console.

Warcry
2013-05-23, 10:04 PM
On that topic, how many of you actually play games for longer than 5 hours a week anymore?
Occasionally, but on average probably not. Compared to my high school days when I was burning up whole days playing Goldeneye and Perfect Dark with my buddies, my gaming time has decreased a lot.

If I get a new game that I really like, I can sometimes sink that much time per day into it. I burned through all three Mass Effect games in under a month the first time around and a playthrough on each game takes around 40 hours (not something I'd recommend you try). But on the other hand, I can also go three or four months without even firing up the machines.

Sades
2013-05-24, 04:44 AM
After reading about the Xbox One (pre-owned game fee, mandatory Kinect, needs an internet connection to function and it's non-indie developer friendly) I'm probably not going near this one. We have a 360, there's plenty of awesome games for it out there already. Assuming we have the disposable income at some point, we're probably going to either buy a PS (depending) or possibly a computer with decent enough specs to play games on (woot ESO).

ganon578
2013-05-24, 06:31 PM
After reading about the Xbox One (pre-owned game fee, mandatory Kinect, needs an internet connection to function and it's non-indie developer friendly) I'm probably not going near this one. We have a 360, there's plenty of awesome games for it out there already. Assuming we have the disposable income at some point, we're probably going to either buy a PS (depending) or possibly a computer with decent enough specs to play games on (woot ESO).

Well I think Microsoft really botched their presentation and gave confusing information on all of those topics. I just read a great article on IGN about this last night (I'm at work so I can't hyperlink) but it talked a great deal on this subject.

I don't like the way they have put off these pre-owned game fees at all. Great, I can borrow the game from a friend but I still have to pay for it? Absolutely dumb. How does word of mouth spread about software? The whole game-fee deal will surely kill Gamestop, Gamefly, and mom-and-pop game stores on the Xbox end. I hope Sony stays away from that model all together.

Regarding the internet connectivity, they way I understand it, the reps and execs from Microsoft don't have a clue how it connects. Some say it needs to be constantly online. Others say it only needs to connect once every 24 h or sooner. What the hell is going on at MS that they can't get the message straight? And what about people who don't have a reliable or fast internet connection? Is MS just going to shun those people as customers?

And I'm surprised at the lack of Indie-dev support since XBLA games have been such a smash hit for the Xbox. That's just an idiotic move all together.

All of this makes me very timid to buy a Xbox One, and I hope they can get all of this straightened out at E3 and change their business model for the better. Their press conference didn't even cater to gamers, who are the core audience that tuned in to see the damn thing to begin with. After essentially dominating the 360/PS3 generation, are they just getting cocky and complacent? Bad move. Just ask Nintendo and poorly selling Wii U. Lightning doesn't usually strike twice.

Jaynz
2013-05-25, 02:46 AM
Microsoft's antics about used games, the kinect requiring you be online and connected to their servers ALL THE TIME, etc., pretty much guaranteed that I'll NOT be getting at least that console. I'll just get all their good games on PC and have done with it.

I haven't seen enough about the PS4 to make me consider it one way or the other yet. Right now, I'm hoarding all the RPGs and strategy-centric games for the PS3 since I expect a glut of shooters and derth of anything else for some time once the PS4 launches.

As for what console I'll get soon? Probably the Ouya for light gaming.

Addl
2013-05-25, 04:31 AM
I do not own and do not want a console, as I am only a PC guy, but even there I have so many games left in my shelf to play one day... Finished an old classic Baldurs Gate last year and am now doing System Shock 2.

... So decades behind anyone, but I spend roughly 2h per week on gaming, only on a Friday or Saturday night (no work next day), if not going out and wife and child is in bed.
... But the last te I touched SS2 is 3 weeks ago, as just now I am in a taxi from airport from 2 weeks of business trip, so I am embarrest to even say gaming is a hobby....

... Welcome to the life of an adult with kids...

Maybe I will buy my daughter a console one day, whichever brand will be top at that time.

Notabot
2013-05-25, 04:23 PM
By that time, it'll be the XBox negative 3.12

The PS3 KILLeR
2013-06-12, 08:38 AM
Already preorder my Xbox one. And before anybody says I'm stupid... Yes I'm a Microsoft fan but I do own a Ps3 a vita and a wii u. I'll get a ps4 eventually but I gotta have my halo first and foremost. As for the DRM and used games, I'm always online anyways and I never buy used games. I understand why people like them but they are the reason we are not getting a Psyconauts 2 or Alan Wake 2, as the used to new ratio was like 5/1 at one point. Great games like those get hurt because of used games and that's why I personally don't buy them. Now COD or any activision or EA game i dont care cause they are swimming in money.

Sorry off topic kinda but I wanted to explain to avoid any possible backlash. Also side note people, the ps4 DOES NOT come with the PS camera it's listed separately on GameStop.com for 59.99 USD. Just thought I'd spread the word on that so everybody knows.

ganon578
2013-06-12, 02:17 PM
You are stupid.

Just kidding. Had to say it since you put out the disclaimer.

I still won't be preordering or getting a new console on day 1 just for money reasons, and the fact that my 360 and PS3 are still relatively new to me. That said, PS4 is looking pretty strong to me after E3. I do fancy the Xbox brand for the controllers and ease of XBL, but it just seems that Sony is catering to gamers really hard right now, and that makes me happy.

Most likely I will end up with both of the new consoles at some point in the coming years, but that's a long way off.

BTW, another off-topic subject, how do you like your Vita? I don't have the finances to get one at the moment, but I have been contemplating getting a new handheld and I can't quite decide on Vita or 3DS. I love Nintendo games like anything Zelda and Mario 3D Land, but the Vita just looks so slick. And if I ever get a PS4 in the future, there's the cross-play feature that is appealing. The higher price and Sony-only memory sticks are the only things that make me think of getting a 3DS instead. Thoughts?

The PS3 KILLeR
2013-06-13, 08:36 AM
I LOVE MY VITA!!! Nuff said! ;) but... my touchscreen is very wacky sometimes I have a huge dead zone where it doesn't register sometimes the whole screen doesn't register and I can't get past the unlock screen. I have another friend who has had one a week longer than I have and he's never had that problem. This is the ONLY issue I have with it. Otherwise I highly recommend it. But the library of games is not the biggest in the world but unless Microsoft comes out with a handheld I'm not parting with my vita for a long time. Hope this helps.
And as for the memory sticks they sometimes go on sale. I picked up my 8gig for $20 when I got my vita in march last year at target. If you find one cheap I suggest nabbing that sob and running for the hills with it in glee! :P

Cyberstrike nTo
2013-06-14, 09:00 PM
Right now I would go with the PS4 just because it costs less.

The PS3 KILLeR
2013-06-16, 08:20 AM
Question... I'm selling my band instruments and ill be getting $1,000 for both hopefully. But what I'm stuck on is should I go all in with Xbox one or preorder a PS4 as well and only get one game each. I've already got over $100 on my one so paying it off is first and foremost and the ps4 only has one launch game I'm interested in that isn't multiplat, killzone shadowfall. I don't give two craps about knack or drive club and I don't think the order 1886 is a launch title and I know inFAMOUS second son isn't. But all the first party titles for the one Ryse, forza 5, dead rising 3, and kinect sports rivals, really interest me. And yes I really do want kinect sports as I've had so much fun from the first 2 with friends and I want a see just how accurate this new kinect is. So my choice is both systems and just one game at best for each or 8 games for Xbox one. Half my friends are telling me to go one way and the other half the other way, so I decided to go to a third party for help. And no canceling my Xbox one isn't an option. :p

Warcry
2013-06-16, 04:31 PM
If you're not interested in the PS4 launch titles there's no reason to buy it at launch other than bragging rights. It's not like they're going to stop making them after six months, right? Besides, if the One has a lot of games that you want to play right away, by the time you burn through them all (and all the ones that follow) and are bored enough to want to check out the PS4, the MSRP may have dropped.

Though the PS4 and One both look to have a much, much stronger library at launch than the Wii U did (or, frankly, than it does now six months after launch).

The PS3 KILLeR
2013-06-17, 06:22 AM
Thanks a lot! :) I was thinking the same but I've two friends who really like the PS4 and they were trying to get me to cave to peer pressure. Between the four of us, I picked the one first and the other co-founder of our clan followed me. Another picked the ps4 first as he can't connect in his dorm and the one will be useless to him. And the last is so torn between them both he literally has no clue what to do. We're a very mixed bag of consumers. And yeah I hear ya on the wii u... I only have 4 games 2 of which are multiplat. That's one reason I'm loving the one so much, as there is no shortage of games even on day one. It's honestly the best launch line up I have ever seen!

On a side note more ps4 info today. Remember how you get drive club ps plus edition free with ps plus? Well turns out its not the full game it's a free-to-play model where you only get a small portion of the content and must pay for the rest. To bad it wasn't the full game as that would be a huge selling point, but I completely understand why it not. Why would anybody pay $60 for it if they could buy ps plus for $50 and get it for free? Especially since drive club needs ps plus for online anyways.

CounterPunch
2013-06-17, 02:35 PM
Xbox One currently has the more enticing exclusives for me, but the way in which they've set up pretty much everything else REALLY puts me off. The latest of which is the head guy (can't remember his name or title) saying "if you don't have internet, get a 360".

I had a friend try to argue with me about the Xbox price, he was constantly going on about how it's more expensive because you get Kinect with it. My whole reply revolved around "yeah but I don't want a Kinect, so the price is bollocks"

The PS3 KILLeR
2013-06-19, 02:43 AM
Xbox One currently has the more enticing exclusives for me, but the way in which they've set up pretty much everything else REALLY puts me off. The latest of which is the head guy (can't remember his name or title) saying "if you don't have internet, get a 360".

I had a friend try to argue with me about the Xbox price, he was constantly going on about how it's more expensive because you get Kinect with it. My whole reply revolved around "yeah but I don't want a Kinect, so the price is bollocks"

That would be Don Mattric, (not sure of spelling of last name) and his exact quote was. "We have a product for people who don't have internet, it's called the Xbox 360" And honestly that's not a "screw you" statement like most people make it out to be. They proved this year they are still supporting the 360 and have no plans to stop doing so for a few years at least. So in consumer terms he basically said: "if you like our brand but don't have Internet and don't have a 360 yet pick one up its a great system and will be around for a long time to come." I never read that as a "middle finger" to people who don't have Internet, and when you think about it the 360 will live for at least 3 more years and by then a bigger percentage of the world will have Internet. Hell I live in Alabama, the one place in America that always gets crapped on, and I can get up to 50mbs in my area and I'm at least 40miles away from the closest major city. If us "shotgun owning, tractor driving, idiot rednecks" can get good Internet the rest of the world can't be far behind! So honestly I don't see anything wrong with his statement, sure it seams bad to people who don't have Internet but by the time the 360 is no longer in stores chance are if you don't have Internet now you will by then. And the 360 is by no means a bad way to wait out the time until you do. Plus all major multiplat games for both new systems are coming on current gen this year anyway. Again as I said before this is if you want to get into the Xbox brand because you want to play the games you missed out on, if your just looking for a new system to play offline by all means go ps4 cause that ain't half bad either! Both systems are going to be amazing in their own ways, so really it comes down to what it should, what games do you like the most. I mean games are why we buy these things right? So I'm glad these issues came up as it turned our eyes back to what matters most... Games! :)

ganon578
2013-06-19, 02:07 PM
Question... I'm selling my band instruments and ill be getting $1,000 for both hopefully. But what I'm stuck on is should I go all in with Xbox one or preorder a PS4 as well and only get one game each. I've already got over $100 on my one so paying it off is first and foremost and the ps4 only has one launch game I'm interested in that isn't multiplat, killzone shadowfall. I don't give two craps about knack or drive club and I don't think the order 1886 is a launch title and I know inFAMOUS second son isn't. But all the first party titles for the one Ryse, forza 5, dead rising 3, and kinect sports rivals, really interest me. And yes I really do want kinect sports as I've had so much fun from the first 2 with friends and I want a see just how accurate this new kinect is. So my choice is both systems and just one game at best for each or 8 games for Xbox one. Half my friends are telling me to go one way and the other half the other way, so I decided to go to a third party for help. And no canceling my Xbox one isn't an option. :p

I completely agree with Warcry on this. Just go all in on Xbox One. Obviously you already like the Xbox interface, Live, and all the exclusives and launch titles. You may as well enjoy the hell out of it until you get bored and the PS4 price drops. Take it from me who only got my 360 and PS3 about 2 years ago: I have both systems with too much to play on each, and I have to split time to enjoy it. I'd almost rather just have one or the other, but I have separate friends on each system that I play online with on occasion.

CounterPunch
2013-06-19, 03:34 PM
That would be Don Mattric, (not sure of spelling of last name) and his exact quote was. "We have a product for people who don't have internet, it's called the Xbox 360" And honestly that's not a "screw you" statement like most people make it out to be. They proved this year they are still supporting the 360 and have no plans to stop doing so for a few years at least. So in consumer terms he basically said: "if you like our brand but don't have Internet and don't have a 360 yet pick one up its a great system and will be around for a long time to come." I never read that as a "middle finger" to people who don't have Internet, and when you think about it the 360 will live for at least 3 more years and by then a bigger percentage of the world will have Internet. Hell I live in Alabama, the one place in America that always gets crapped on, and I can get up to 50mbs in my area and I'm at least 40miles away from the closest major city. If us "shotgun owning, tractor driving, idiot rednecks" can get good Internet the rest of the world can't be far behind! So honestly I don't see anything wrong with his statement, sure it seams bad to people who don't have Internet but by the time the 360 is no longer in stores chance are if you don't have Internet now you will by then. And the 360 is by no means a bad way to wait out the time until you do. Plus all major multiplat games for both new systems are coming on current gen this year anyway. Again as I said before this is if you want to get into the Xbox brand because you want to play the games you missed out on, if your just looking for a new system to play offline by all means go ps4 cause that ain't half bad either! Both systems are going to be amazing in their own ways, so really it comes down to what it should, what games do you like the most. I mean games are why we buy these things right? So I'm glad these issues came up as it turned our eyes back to what matters most... Games! :)


It's not necessarily about "screw you" but it's about Microsofts ridiculously poor marketing for the Xbox One that has them continually put their foot in it. The fact is, serious gamers who might be concerned about the Xbox One's requirement of internet access every 24 hours do not want one of the presidents of Microsoft to come out and go "well, you can always get an 8 year old piece of tech."

Microsoft can say whatever they want, but the fact is, the 360 focus WILL drop within the 1 or 2 years of the One being out.

Also, purely for my benefit, could you please paragraph. I was only able to actually read the first few lines of what you wrote.

In terms of the internet, I'll provide you with an example.

My university (and I think a large number of universities) in the UK prevent students who are living in university provided accommodation from gaming online, as you have to log on to the uni provided internet via portals. If this is the same for the Xbox One, then they have alienated a huge portion of their fanbase (students who have money and not much to do) as they wouldn't be able to go online in order to authenticate and so after 24 hours the console would be useless as a console.

CounterPunch
2013-06-19, 03:47 PM
The whole game-fee deal will surely kill Gamestop, Gamefly, and mom-and-pop game stores on the Xbox end. I hope Sony stays away from that model all together.0/PS3 generation, are they just getting cocky and complacent? Bad move.

This is something i've been beating on about for a while now, since this used games discussion came up. Everyone is sticking up for the publishers and developers, saying used games are putting people out of a job... That's true and I feel sorry for them, BUT, by enacting such a strong used-game stance MSoft could adversely affect the employment of thousands of people who work in stores across the US, UK, Europe etc, who are doing a job that is completely legal.

ganon578
2013-06-19, 09:15 PM
This just in: DRM and always online removed from the Xbox One, as well as used games working as they always have. Courtesy of fan backlash.

http://www.oxm.co.uk/56730/microsoft-removes-online-drm-from-xbox-one/

The PS3 KILLeR
2013-06-20, 05:00 AM
This just in: DRM and always online removed from the Xbox One, as well as used games working as they always have. Courtesy of fan backlash.

http://www.oxm.co.uk/56730/microsoft-removes-online-drm-from-xbox-one/

Damn you beat me to it!!! But it is also no longer region locked, which some people care about but it doesn't make difference to me either way.

Also @ counterpunch
Used games only account for 30% of GameStop's sales, and they don't make any form of commission or bonus from selling a used game. So how exactly would that harm the employees at GameStop, EB games, or GAME?

The ones in my area already have a bare bones staff as it is, and we have too many GameStops around here (4 in one city!) so at the worst they close stores and combine staff. Plus half the people quit after 2 months anyways, so it would drive them to hire more dedicated workers not 17 year old hipsters who half-ass do everything.

Honestly I seen nothing but good for publishers and workers. The only people who get screwed are suits who already make too much money and people who ONLY buy used.

None of this really matters now as they've changed it, but I still wanted to have my say in the matter.

ganon578
2013-06-20, 09:13 PM
Damn you beat me to it!!! But it is also no longer region locked, which some people care about but it doesn't make difference to me either way.

I absolutely did! I saw this on PushSquare.com and though it was pretty funny. I still like the Xbox brand and I'm looking forward to what they can do in the next gen. It'll be nice 5 years from now when I can pick up a PS4 and a Xbox One for the cost of just of the machines right now:

http://images.pushsquare.com/news/2013/06/reaction_microsoft_may_have_reacted_but_ps4_is_in_control/attachment/1/original.jpg

Heinrad
2013-06-21, 01:01 AM
I'm going to go the PS4 route, mainly because the "Always On" function for the XBox will make the fact that my Internet provider's equipment needs to be reset every week or so as it is now, and that's without much online gaming.

The PS3 KILLeR
2013-06-21, 05:31 AM
I'm going to go the PS4 route, mainly because the "Always On" function for the XBox will make the fact that my Internet provider's equipment needs to be reset every week or so as it is now, and that's without much online gaming.

You do know they removed that and the restrictions on used games right?

The PS3 KILLeR
2013-06-22, 06:34 AM
Just got my August 2013 issue of OXM and an ad for forza 5 seams to state it will require 12 GB to install! I know current gen games are 5-8 so is 12 the new standard?

Sades
2013-06-22, 04:07 PM
Oh goody. More gigs for similar graphics!

PLZ YESH SHUTE UPP AN TAKE MEY MONEE ... ... ...

Yeah, no.

I'm just being a shit now, aren't I? Eh.

ganon578
2013-06-22, 04:10 PM
Oh goody. More gigs for similar graphics!

PLZ YESH SHUTE UPP AN TAKE MEY MONEE ... ... ...

Yeah, no.

I'm just being a shit now, aren't I? Eh.

As always!

Not surprising that new tech and graphics take up more space. It is the way of things.

Sades
2013-06-22, 05:08 PM
Fair 'nuff. Afterrrr... what, 12 years? Shit... I think I'm talked out- Nowadays I just hang around and look for an unsuspecting straight man. Or knock on my (pretty awesome actually) other half. Sad. Saaaaaad.

As far as the Xbox One goes- The reversal came only after Sony ripped them a new one and their game developers started jumping ship. Meh, I say. MEH.

Heinrad
2013-06-22, 09:01 PM
I do now. Still probably go PS4. Xbox have any exclusive titles announced yet?

The PS3 KILLeR
2013-06-24, 11:59 AM
I do now. Still probably go PS4. Xbox have any exclusive titles announced yet?

Yep a lot actually.
Deadrising3 *
Ryse *
Forza 5 *
Kinect sports rivals *
Titian fall (360, pc, and one)
Project spark * (free to play) (360, pc, and one)
Killer instinct * (free to play)
Sunset overdrive (being made by insomniac games of ratchet and clank)
Quantum break
And yet unnamed halo game that they confirmed is not halo 5.

* All of these are launch titles. The rest will be out 6 months to a year after launch.