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Blackjack
2013-06-11, 03:32 PM
Since we don't have a thread for this...

The new Generations line is the one with the Voyager Blitzwing and Springer, the Deluxe IDW Bumblebee, Orion Pax, Megatron and Trailbreaker, and the big-ass Metroplex.

Also Legends (new Legends not to be confused with the old Legends Class, apparently approximately around the size of the old Scouts class? Not very sure myself) toys of Optimus Prime with Targetmaster Roller and Bumblebee with Targetmaster Blazemaster. Apparently they're a size class meant to interact with Metroplex.

Also, Megatron with Chop Shop, as well as Starscream with Waspinator. Images from Cybertron. Megatron seems to be loosely homaging the IDW miner body, and Starscream's basically the standard F15 design.
Image 1 (http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1370950343_1.JPG)
Image 2 (http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1370950343_2.JPG)
Image 3 (http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1370950442_3.jpg)
Image 4 (http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1370950442_4.jpg)

Blackjack
2013-06-11, 03:37 PM
From the Transformers Club Store, we've got images of the Wrecker combiner team, repaints of the Fall of Cybertron Bruticus toy that do a poor job of homaging who they're supposed to homage. Pictures mirrored from Seibertron again.

Impactor (http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1370916140_1.JPG) is a retool of Onslaught with a new head and a new harpoon accessory in addition to Onslaught's original double-barreled gun. Shame Impactor's first toy is a repaint of such a terrible toy.

Roadbuster (http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1370916181_2.JPG) is a retool of Swindle with new head, and a new weapon based on the Energon Harvester from the Fall of Cybertron game.. Still seems to come with Swindle's original gun, though.

Twin Twist (http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1370916221_3.jpg) is a retool of Brawl with a new head and a new double-drill weapon. Also, as Knightdramon pointed out, he also still comes with Brawl's original gun.

Whirl (http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1370916268_4.jpg) is a retool of Vortex with a new head and a new gun. Like Roadbuster and Impactor, Whirl comes with Vortex's original gunblades. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO POOR WHIRL

Topspin (http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1370916312_5.JPG) is a retool of Blast Off with, again, a new head and a new gun. And again, he still comes with Blast Off's original gun. Which is really strange since it seems to mean they kind of shortcharged anyone who brought the original Combaticons since apparently they can still fit in big chunks of weaponry into the deluxe class plastic allocation.

The Wreckers combine into Ruination (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/e/ea/Generationstoy-Ruination.jpg/569px-Generationstoy-Ruination.jpg). Ruination has a new head that homages Emirate Xaaron, and a paint scheme that homages RID Ruination of all things. That's right... they went through all the trouble to make new heads and accessories for Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster and the Jumpstarters and decided to slap the ugly colours of random nobodies onto it.

Knightdramon
2013-06-11, 04:02 PM
Actually looks better as Ruination in that slim set up than it did as Bruticus.

Twin Twist does include brawl's gun as well, it's pegged onto his drilling thing in packaging.

As with a lengthy discussion at tfw2005, they were able to fit new guns in the existing sets at the expense of packaging them once again with Shockwave, Jazz and Prime :lol:

Really liking how Twin Twist comes out despite not liking the mould initially.

And yes, Hasbro could do better than homaging 5 bots to approximations of their vehicles with new heads on, paint that isn't that much indicative of them, combining them into a super robot modelled after a guy who was more of a political figure than a warrior and naming it after a decepticon combiner.

Blackjack
2013-06-11, 04:05 PM
I don't mind the silly Xaaron head... if I ever bought these guys it'll be me going after the Jumpstarter, Impactor and Whirl homages instead of going after the combiner, but they basically screwed up all the effort made in the molding to homage the Wreckers just to make the combiner look like the RID dude.

(Bruticus/Ruination will always look better with the Brawl and Swindle molds as hands and the other two as legs. Blast Off makes for a terrible hand, and Vortex's got a ridiculous karate-chop hand)

I mean, sure, I would rather want brand-new Impactor, Whirl, Topspin, Twin Twist and Roadbuster molds, but still, as repaints meant to appeal to fans of the Wreckers this is a bit stupid. It's effectively killed off any interest I might have in buying, oh, at least Impactor and Whirl... shame, those new heads look nice. If they were decoed properly...

Oh well, at least I won't fork over more money to Hasbro for these, which is good.

EDIT: fixed the Brawl gun thing.

Denyer
2013-06-11, 06:19 PM
Not exactly Blitzwing or Springer class, are they?

inflatable dalek
2013-06-11, 06:35 PM
No doubt everyone and their dog has said this, but they do a Wreckers combiner and don't have the helicopter guy be Rotorstorm?

Blackjack
2013-06-11, 06:40 PM
No doubt everyone and their dog has said this, but they do a Wreckers combiner and don't have the helicopter guy be Rotorstorm?

Eh, since Rotorstorm would be coloured the same random shade of orange and purple as not-Whirl up there, I think it's for Rotorstorm's own good.

Springer85
2013-06-11, 11:20 PM
Man, I was excited when I read that they were going to release more Wreckers and then I saw this.... :wall:

Out of all those, I only like Twintwist, though not enough to pick him up. :(

Thunderwave
2013-06-12, 01:22 AM
I plan on getting Roadbuster, if only to steal his damned head for a custom.

inflatable dalek
2013-06-12, 06:05 AM
Eh, since Rotorstorm would be coloured the same random shade of orange and purple as not-Whirl up there, I think it's for Rotorstorm's own good.

Though there is a certain irony in the new Whirl toy having been through empurata.

Does anyone else think "Thrilling 30" sounds like the worst idea Enid Bliton ever had? "What was I thinking! It was hard enough to come up with characters for 7 plucky kid, let alone 30. I wonder how many I can get away with making dogs this time?"

Terome
2013-06-12, 12:44 PM
Has who has picked up the Combaticon version of these moulds tell me which is the best one? I'm put off by Whirl's colours but Roadbuster looks all right. I'd had my eye on Blast-Off previously but I'm not sure I like that all-white Topspin.

Actually no wait, I've no money to buy toys right now. Can't even entertain the notion.

Blackjack
2013-06-12, 01:11 PM
Swindle/Roadbuster is easily the best, which isn't much... he's just a chunky block of a toy. Very sub-par and without the combining gimmick it's pretty forgettable.

Onslaught (and thus Impactor) is easily the worst. He's designed as the gestalt chest more than as an individual robot or a car. It's horrid.

The other three fall somewhere between. Vortex has grown on me a lot after some time, too, but make no mistake they're pretty sub-par.

I have drafts of reviews typed out, but it'll take some time before I post them.

Notabot
2013-06-12, 06:41 PM
Does anyone else think "Thrilling 30" sounds like the worst idea Enid Bliton ever had? "What was I thinking! It was hard enough to come up with characters for 7 plucky kid, let alone 30.

Is it 30 characters or is it just the 30th anniversary? (Not snarky. Honest question.) Either way the alliteration is quite silly.

ganon578
2013-06-12, 07:04 PM
After just getting the Bruticus molds, I'm not too keen on the Wreckers especially from a quality standpoint. Maybe I'll cave when they arrive and I see them in person. Just by looks I think Roadbuster, Twintwist, and Impactor may be the only purchases. Whirl and Topspin look rather blah to me.

Skyquake87
2013-06-12, 10:56 PM
Not very 'thrilling'.

Hasbro should just give up with the Bruticus mould. It's just embarrassing. The only one of those figures that isn't a total disaster is Vortex. That's seriously how the Brawl mould is to do an arm? F**k me.

Not particularly interested in the Starscream / Megatron .... things either. They look to be Scout / Cyberverse Commander sized and look like some aborted Powercore Concept that someone's dusted down. The Targetmaster concept rather does Chop Shop and Waspinator a disservice - 'you are now no longer proper characters , just someone's gun'.

I am not feeling the thrills. The Wreckers deserved better.

Summerhayes
2013-06-14, 09:06 PM
I will probably pick up Impactor and Whirl on principal in the hopes they'll one day give us decent approximations.

Also, it amuses me no end that we're getting a five-figure set based on a single line joke.

Blackjack
2013-06-17, 05:15 AM
See, this is how you do Wreckers. High-res pictures of Sandstorm (an extensive retool of Springer) have surfaced due to someone getting some early samples (by one way or another).

Click here (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/more-inhand-images-transformers-generations-voyager-sandstorm/27582/) for an extensive Sandstorm gallery courtesy of Seibertron.

Skyquake87
2013-06-17, 08:06 AM
I do like Sandstorm. He looks so weird.

Auntie Slag
2013-06-23, 12:43 PM
Sandstorm looks brilliant (and he could pass himself off as Sureshot when applying for a loan). Love the chunky mutton-chops grill effect. With a look like that he could be a hill farmer.

Securis
2013-06-24, 06:03 PM
They've really got to come out with some voyager sized Optimus and Megatron figures in this series. Deluxe is too small to convincingly be in command of their respective armies.

ganon578
2013-06-24, 06:11 PM
Sandstorm looks great to me, and knowing the quality and fun that came with Springer, I'm all in on that one.

Springer85
2013-07-18, 07:56 AM
A what seems to be a MTMTE inspired Generations Whirl is in the works! And no, I don't mean the orange one. :D

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=629711613714224&set=a.629711537047565.1073742116.168147899870600&type=1&theater

Blackjack
2013-07-18, 08:51 AM
WHIRLLLLLL

Denyer
2013-07-18, 05:02 PM
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.629711537047565.1073742116.168147899870600&type=1

Hopefully just not great angles...

http://i.imgur.com/je159Jl.jpg

edit: It's mistransformed, see the panel photos at TFW ziggy links to below instead.

Skyquake87
2013-07-18, 05:06 PM
Looks like an update of the original toy... i like it!

Springer85
2013-07-18, 06:23 PM
Yeah, I thought it was a MTMTE version, but I was wrong :o

In more SDCC related news: Generations Scoop! :D (and Armada Starscream)

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/san-diego-comic-con-33/transformers-constructabot-breakfast-pics-scoop-and-armada-starscream-178031/

inflatable dalek
2013-07-18, 07:14 PM
Looks more than MTMTEey enough for me, it's not as if the comic design is drastically different from the original.

Plus, with all the cross promotion going on at the moment, that's almost certainly what the comic version will look like by Christmas.

Skyquake87
2013-07-18, 07:55 PM
Scoop looks good. But then his original toy was turd, so difficult to go wrong with that one.

zigzagger
2013-07-18, 08:09 PM
Hasbro panel: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/san-diego-comic-con-33/transformers-prime-and-30th-panels-sdcc-2013-live-178032/

Tailgate is lovely. Just spot-on. Shrapnel doesn't look too shabby either.

I'd say the panel images give a better idea how Whirl is more or less supposed to look in 'bot mode (i.e. not mis-transformed). But yeah, overall, it's a really nice update of the original. Not at all fussed that it isn't the MTMTE design as previously rumored either. Whirl turned out great.

numbat
2013-07-18, 08:09 PM
Generations Scoop looks like a homage to G1 Scoop - awful.

I really want to like Armada Starscream but I just can't. Such a pity as the Armada figure was pretty cool for the time, but it looks far better than that mess.

Whirl... Meh.

Warcry
2013-07-18, 08:13 PM
Whirl looks just as awkward and ungainly as he's supposed to, in my mind. I like it!

And Scoop! Never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd see a new Scoop toy, let alone one that captures the original design in such loving detail and manages to have great modern articulation. The Targetmasters are unsightly (the legs can't possibly just stick out like that, can they?) and the head is the wrong colour, but all in all...all in all I want that toy more than anything in the last half-decade! So much nostalgia...

Armada Starscream, on the other hand...wow. That's pretty weak.

Tailgate is lovely, too. And Shrapnel! Spot on!

numbat
2013-07-18, 08:15 PM
Inordinately excited by Legends Tailgate. Shrapnel looks good too.

:)

Inaction Master
2013-07-18, 08:32 PM
Oooh Tailgate! My hype is now peaked!

With Scoop and Whirl, can we assume that Springer and Sandstorm this year are signs someone in the department is a major Wreckers fan?

Skyquake87
2013-07-18, 08:36 PM
I hope we get to see some of this stuff in the UK.

Metroplex is marked US only, which is interesting...or is that just the box art..?

Summerhayes
2013-07-18, 09:05 PM
I've got a lot of time for that Whirl. I can't imagine myself picking up the tango version any more, that's for sure.

Denyer
2013-07-18, 10:15 PM
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/san-diego-comic-con-33/transformers-constructabot-breakfast-pics-scoop-and-armada-starscream-178031/

Scoop and an Armada Starscream, plus more Constructabots.

ganon578
2013-07-19, 01:33 AM
Voyager Whirl is in there too. Don't really care for the design on that one.

Scoop is a weird choice in my opinion. With all the other characters that could have possibly been made, that seems rather obscure.

Thunderwave
2013-07-19, 02:07 AM
...Scoop.

Not only did they dig Scoop out of the back end of G1, but they gave him two Targetmasters that you can combine into one big gun. I did not see that coming.

Whirl? I kinda like him. It looks like his old G1 self, but updated to more modern engineering. I'm not holding my breath on it, but I'm hoping that getting a new Whirl and Scoop might mean, say, a new Roadbuster might be on the way.

Denyer
2013-07-19, 06:59 AM
Heavily photoshopped versions:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.615316588488541.1073741910.284302084923328&type=3

Tailgate! Missed that before. It's a MTMTE love-fest!

http://www.fullmetalhero.com/content/updated-display-gallery-7233/

Blackjack
2013-07-19, 08:43 AM
From the 'fanmade character poll' from some time ago, we've gotten 'Windblade' the female Decepticon Drift samurai apparently. (looks like a retool of the Armada Starcream mold to me. (Also some random Minicon combiner (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/sdcc-2013-generations-deluxe-class-official-images-178045/) dude)

WHIRL AND SHRAPNEL! These two excite me more than any other toy revealed so far, and I am loving them immensely. Shrapnel's head is a wee bit too small, but hey! (Is that giant gun a transformed Reflector? Whoa!) Whirl looks as awesomely awkward and weird as ever.

Tailgate looks wonderful, although I'm a bit worried about the tiny comic-accurate feet. Scoop looks grand in that he's just a generic-looking Autobot but he's 100% accurate to the original toy and he comes with little guys that turn into guns, hey! Armada Starscream likewise looks great (his jet mode's a bit iffy though), but he'll probably be passed over in the influx of G1 and BW toys.

Nice to see some Beast Wars guys (Wolfang!) getting Constructobots treatment, which, considering the Constructabots' character picking scheme, probably means a toy of them is scheduled sometime down the line.

Summerhayes
2013-07-19, 12:59 PM
Tailgate! Missed that before. It's a MTMTE love-fest!

http://www.fullmetalhero.com/content/updated-display-gallery-7233/
SQUEEEEEEEE! With him, Whirl and Swerve the MTMTE love-in is looking pretty amazing. My wallet is crying actual tears.

Knightdramon
2013-07-19, 03:37 PM
Too much G1 goodness...while Whirl isn't what I hoped he'd be, I'd feel guilty not buying him.

Tailgate, much like Skids, is an instant buy.

Scoop leaves me indifferent.

Armada Starscream looks too...rough/unfinished. Sadly the armada brick looks better.

What kind of laughing matter is hasbro's thrilling 30 business though? The numbered releases are laughable...so number [say] 7 is SDCC Metroplex, and number [again, say]9 is HK Con Metroplex, which is the same thing! :lol:

Denyer
2013-07-19, 06:00 PM
Yeah, Shrapnel and Swoop look good and are possible buys along with Skids, Swerve and Tailgate. Lots of cool stuff.

Whirl definitely looks better there:

http://i.imgur.com/SBSqvog.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SBSqvog.jpg

Springer85
2013-07-19, 06:30 PM
Official images of Whirl are on TFW tooo: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/sdcc-2013-generations-voyager-whirl-official-images-178043/

Kind of worried about the feet though. The look a little weak and breakable. I'll wait for the reviews of him before I get one. Tailgate and Swerve are a must by though :D

Blackjack
2013-07-20, 06:14 PM
Yeah, the stock photography looks correctly transformed and Whirl is all the more better for it. It's a lot more based on the G1 toy than the funky Bayformer IDW design, but it's not a bad thing. I love both Whirl designs equally.

FortressMaximus
2013-07-21, 12:50 AM
I love the Generations line. I have the Blitzwing and Springer. Still trying to look in local stores first before having to buy Sandstorm online. I have Orion Pax and Megatron preordered. I have the original G1 Whirl, Roadbuster and Sandstorm. Will probably get the Generation versions them as well.

Knightdramon
2013-07-22, 02:26 PM
I'm kind of thinking they'll surprise us soon with a voyager Impactor. All the signs are there. Maybe an early/mid 2014 release.

inflatable dalek
2013-07-22, 06:55 PM
Pure speculation:

As the toyline seems to be looking to celebrate as much of the history of the range as possible, and assuming Waspinator/Rhinox and Armada Starscream are respectively meant to represent the entire Beast and UT eras, that leaves RID and Japanese G1 as the main major bits not yet covered by Thrilling 30.

So, taking into account they're general popularity and they fact IDW have started using both of them, I wouldn't bet against Sky-Bite and Star Saber joining in early 2014.

Blackjack
2013-07-22, 09:18 PM
Impactor, Sky-Byte and Star Saber would be awesome!

I'm banking on Rattrap appearing in some form, since with RID's toy-whoring tendencies and with Rattrap being shoved in at random into the comic alongside Scoop I'm taking a guess that everyone's favourite transforming rat is going to get a toy.

Warcry
2013-10-31, 05:12 PM
Hasbro's website posted some surprising new toy listings today:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/hasbrocom-updates-with-new-generations-and-constructbots-listings-178695/

Brainstorm and Roadbuster have the potential to make me very happy. Jhiaxus will probably be based on the dreadful IDW hunchback design, though. :(

Rack 'n Ruin
2013-10-31, 05:27 PM
Hasbro's website posted some surprising new toy listings today:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/hasbrocom-updates-with-new-generations-and-constructbots-listings-178695/

Brainstorm and Roadbuster have the potential to make me very happy. Jhiaxus will probably be based on the dreadful IDW hunchback design, though. :(

If true, teh awesum. Here's hoping. :up:

EDIT: On reflection, hugely unlikely. Way, way too much product listed. Prove me wrong, world, prove me wrong!

Denyer
2013-10-31, 07:36 PM
Quite a few things potentially of interest, if new moulds.

Warcry
2013-10-31, 08:51 PM
And from the same sources: Movie #4 toy listings (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/hasbro-website-updates-part-2-the-age-of-extinction-is-nigh-178696/) and Hasbro Masterpiece Sideswipe (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/hasbro-website-updates-part-3-masterpiece-sideswipe-us-release-178698/).

Interesting...hopefully it's legit.

inflatable dalek
2013-10-31, 09:03 PM
Brainstorm and Roadbuster have the potential to make me very happy. Jhiaxus will probably be based on the dreadful IDW hunchback design, though. :(

Jhiaxus has always been a bit crap looking though.

I guess that third party Brainstorm is screwed now then? Especially if the official one keeps up the relative high standards of the other IDW comic based toys we've had this year (and comes with a briefcase).

Denyer
2013-10-31, 09:32 PM
There are actually three third party homages; one already released, one due about now...

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/3rd-party-unlicensed-41/another-third-party-brainstorm-in-the-works-178198/

Fansproject appears to have the intention of doing a full set of Headmasters-type releases, so I don't think it'll hurt them too much.

MMC might not bother now, though.

Thunderwave
2013-10-31, 09:45 PM
The two that caught my eye are Roadbuster and Arcee.

Roadbuster makes a certain amount of sense with Springer and Whirl getting new toys (although Whirl is still on the way). Might as well do him as well.

Arcee I'm curious about. Is this going to be another bike Arcee, or are we going to get the disgustingly pink and white future car that she was but never got made into a toy?

Knightdramon
2013-11-01, 01:29 PM
Thoughts on this whole matter;

Movie toys sound promising. Looks like a full cast, distributed among all size classes. Dinobots can be either cars that turn into dinosaurs, or actual dinosaurs that turn into robots. We'll wait and see. Still no leader decepticon.

Generations; they really do like the Wreckers, don't they. All we need is a decent Impactor and possibly a Rack N Ruin and we've got everybody! Looking forward to seeing Brainstorm and Hardhead-they should be close to their comic book selves. Jhiaxus is great too-whichever way they go. Chromia stinks of a repainted Arcee.

Wouldn't put too much faith on LDR Megatron and Jetfire, logic points to these listings being of Hasbro Asia, which in turn points to them being ROTF fancy repaints.

No comment on MP Sideswipe as it looks like another hasbro asia listing.

numbat
2013-11-01, 02:18 PM
Lots of predictable listings in the Age of Extinction line. Looking forward to seeing the designs!

Classics-style listings also are looking interesting.

MarkNL
2013-11-03, 06:17 PM
Hasbro's website posted some surprising new toy listings today:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/hasbrocom-updates-with-new-generations-and-constructbots-listings-178695/

Brainstorm and Roadbuster have the potential to make me very happy. Jhiaxus will probably be based on the dreadful IDW hunchback design, though. :(
Just saw those listings on Seibertron. Heck, I'm so excited.
Can't wait! :D

Warcry
2013-12-11, 05:58 PM
Via TFW and the Collectors Club, we've got a picture of Generations Rattrap:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/transformers-collectors-club-issue-54-cover-generations-rattrap-revealed-178911/

Looks like a pretty great robot mode at least, though I'm not a fan of the transparent weapon at all. I've been very impressed with all three of the Generations BW molds we've seen so far, far moreso than the last few waves of G1 or IDW-based toys (which have been very hit-or-miss for me) or the FoC figures (which were almost uniformly awful).

inflatable dalek
2013-12-11, 08:33 PM
But where's the"Udders"?

Warcry
2013-12-17, 09:20 PM
More pics of Rattrap, plus Crosscut and Beast Machines Tankor (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/official-images-of-transformers-generations-2014-wave-3-178946/)

Notably, no pics of Nightbeat even though he was rumoured to be in the same wave as these three.

Rattrap is looking good, for sure. I'm indifferent to Crosscut and actively dislike BM, so I don't care much for Tankor.

Skyquake87
2013-12-17, 09:28 PM
Do you know, I am terribly nonplussed by redoing BW toys. With the articulation and general design those toys had, these Generations versions don't seem like such a massive step forward. Tankor is kind of nice, but the BM Basic Tank Drone on which this is based is a nice little toy with the added bonus of chrome and vacuum metalizing that puts it head and shoulders above this update.

Crosscut there just to get some extra use out of the Skids mould, which is kind of nice, but a fairly minor character all things considered.

Despite my grumblings, its nice that Hasbro are picking out other parts of the franchise to Generations-ize. Although I'll be there'll be some uncomfortable shoe horning into IDWs comics.

Thunderwave
2013-12-17, 11:31 PM
Crosscut there just to get some extra use out of the Skids mould, which is kind of nice, but a fairly minor character all things considered.

When they announced Crosscut I was expecting a doofy looking green Decepticon. I'd of been happier with a doofy green Decepticon who's transformation gimmick is that his arms and legs are spring loaded and he pops apart when you push him into something.

Knightdramon
2013-12-18, 12:25 PM
Liking Crosscut. Too bad it is almost certainly NOT going to be that shade of silver.

A bit indifferent on Tankor, but it's good that beast machines are getting some recognition. Would have preferred him to be a voyager.

Rattrap looks like a dream come true. Too bad that I'm again, almost certain some parts of his rat mode are going to be rubber [possibly the entire flap with his tail on].

It's what held me from getting Rhinox. If it's the same on Rattrap, then it's a pass again. Probably.

Now Universe Cheetor and Dinobot look even more like crap than they were before. YAY

Slayer-Fan123
2013-12-19, 09:06 AM
More pics of Rattrap, plus Crosscut and Beast Machines Tankor (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/official-images-of-transformers-generations-2014-wave-3-178946/)

Notably, no pics of Nightbeat even though he was rumoured to be in the same wave as these three.

Rattrap is looking good, for sure. I'm indifferent to Crosscut and actively dislike BM, so I don't care much for Tankor.
I'm REALLY liking Tankor's design. He has the look that he carries plenty of firepower and has melee capabilities at the same time.

I'm thinking he's the winner for me.

numbat
2013-12-20, 05:27 PM
Tankor looks worse than his BM original... Very disappointing. I really liked the original design and a good updated figure would have been an easy sell to me.

Afraid I've never gotten in to BW, so Rattrap's a firm pass.

Crosscut looks pretty neat at least.

Blackjack
2013-12-21, 11:03 AM
Tankor is a boo :(

Rattrap doesn't look as spectacular as Waspinator or Rhinox, but I will buy it nonetheless because it's a Rattrap toy that doesn't look sucky. I don't really care either way about Crosscut.

Now if only these toys, you know, show up here.

EDIT: Whoa, you don't look at toy news for two months and suddenly a lot of awesome shit shows up in listings. Brainstorm and Roadbuster, being Voyager class toys, seem to have the potential to be awesome -- having a Roadbuster to go with Springer and Whirl would be very grand. Sky-Byte is unexpected, but since he's Voyager I doubt I will get him -- space is a premium, see. Nightbeat would be grand. Arcee, Hardhead and Jhiaxus seem to be why they keep showing up like a bad stain in the comics. Arcee, if based on the G1 design and not the crap WFC one, would be pretty decent. I personally don't mind the hunchback Jhiaxus for some reason, but the Stryker tank Hardhead I don't like. Gears is obvious, although I think I'm more interested in Gnaw. Movie-wise I have no idea since most of them are probably just stand-in names and whatnot, but it sure looks to be a fair bit more organized than the DOTM fiasco.

inflatable dalek
2013-12-21, 06:04 PM
I said Sky Bite was really likely considering him randomly showing up in the comics and being the breakout character who'd best represent RID in the anniversary line didn't I? Have they announced my other reasonably certain bet, Star Sabre yet?

I'm actually mildly surprised they're bothering to do a BM toy considering that Rattrap/Rhinox/Waspinator could have been considered to fairly represent the entire Beast era.

Of course, thanks to Hasbro/IDW they're all G1 characters now...

Slightly OT, but annoyingly the fan club exclusive Chromedome I mocked previously in the past (I mean, what a rubbish reuse of the Prime Wheeljack toy, right?) actually looks Exactly Right for the MTMTE version.

Blackjack
2013-12-21, 06:40 PM
I said Sky Bite was really likely considering him randomly showing up in the comics and being the breakout character who'd best represent RID in the anniversary line didn't I? Have they announced my other reasonably certain bet, Star Sabre yet?

Aha!

Two random non-G1 characters shoehorned into an ill-fitting role on two different comics, who proceed to contribute jack shit to the story yet it's impossible to read the arc without coming across them!

And it would really stand to reason why they didn't let Arcee, Jhiaxus and Hardhead's stupid dead horse plot just die. Next thing we know, Nova Prime and Garnak will be having toys.

I'm actually mildly surprised they're bothering to do a BM toy considering that Rattrap/Rhinox/Waspinator could have been considered to fairly represent the entire Beast era.

Indeed, considering last time they only bothered to do Dinobot and a half-assed Cheetor, it's a welcome surprise that more and more Beast characters are being done. Tankor was completely unexpected, too, shame the toy doesn't look any good -- which really is kinda inexcusable since show!Tankor is a relatively simple design.

Of course, thanks to Hasbro/IDW they're all G1 characters now...

Screw IDW, seriously. That Armada Starscream body appearing randomly in Dark Cybertron is completely stupid and would serve no purpose than to piss off G1 fans reading the comic as well as the target demographic for the toy, Armada fans.

Slightly OT, but annoyingly the fan club exclusive Chromedome I mocked previously in the past (I mean, what a rubbish reuse of the Prime Wheeljack toy, right?) actually looks Exactly Right for the MTMTE version.

What fan club Chromedome? (looks up) Oh, that. Pretty decent attempt, actually.

Chromedome's lack of a toy in the Generations line, is, I wager, the reason he's inconspicuously absent from the MTMTE lineup in BIG BAD IMPORTANT Dark Cyberton, of which I have only read one single issue of.

Heinrad
2013-12-28, 11:23 PM
Rattrap: -looking at the pictures of himself- "Hey, hey! I do look pretty good, don't I?"

Nightbeat: "At least they've released images of your figure. Looking at the designs in the comics, I'm going to wind up looking like a Kia Soul."

Rattrap: -shudders- "Dere is one t'ing dat'd make it better, ya know."

Nightbeat: "I hate to ask, but what?"

Rattrap: "Makin' a update'a my Transmetal body. Ya know, a robot mode dat looks like I did on da show, an' makin' a nice, shiny version'a my vehicle mode. Ya gotta give da public da real Stainless Steel Rat."

Nightbeat: -looking at pics of Tankor- "Yeah..... don't hold your breath." -sniffs- "Change that. Please, PLEASE hold your breath."

Rattrap: "Jeez. You sayin' dat limburger an' week old camonbert don't make a good sandwich?"

Nightbeat: "No. If you like cheese, it works. I guess. Although the international treaty ban on chemical weapons might take issue with that......"

Skyquake87
2013-12-29, 10:19 AM
Heinrad, why aren't you writing RID? Pay attention John Barber, this is how Rattrap sounds.

Blackjack
2014-01-14, 03:43 PM
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-generations-2014-deluxe-wave-4-revealed-nightbeat-jhiaxus-and-windblade/29124/

Nightbeat sadly is a repaint of RTS Jazz, and Jhiaxus, equally sadly, a repaint of Armada Starscream.

:(

Warcry
2014-01-14, 03:50 PM
:lol: That's just terrible! I love that Jazz mold, but it might just be the worst choice for Nightbeat out of all possible Generations-style car molds.

[EDIT]And a homage to RiD Jhiaxus the what now? People didn't even like that toy at the time, did they?

Blackjack
2014-01-14, 04:02 PM
Of course, these apparently aren't official Hasbro images so I am fervently hoping that it's someone's idea of a joke. I, for one, would've thought Nightbeat would be a sure retool of the new Goldbug mould...

And besides Jazz was part of the older, larger deluxe size, no? What is Hasbro doing releasing larger deluxes as part of the downsized line?

Knightdramon
2014-01-14, 07:43 PM
Interesting news and reaction.

I don't know WHAT people were expecting from Jhiaxus, since his G2/REgeneration body doesn't look like it transforms into anything. This at least serves as an homage to the only other figure Jhiaxus ever received.

Nightbeat, if true, is a bit meh. And if this is indeed his toy, I expect him to be promptly destroyed, then rebuilt back and onto the good side again in the comics.

HOWEVER, since at least FOUR retools in the previous generations line didn't make the cut (Jazz with alternate head, Warpath as Hardhead, Scourge as Ratbat, Perceptor as Reflector and one or more that elude me now], maybe this is what we were intended to have back then?

numbat
2014-01-14, 08:07 PM
I wouldn't mind the Armada Stars cream mould as Jhiaxus if this does prove to be true - all depends on the final deco.

Jazz as Night beat is poor, but, hey, redecos often stretch things a bit.

inflatable dalek
2014-01-14, 08:16 PM
Considering both versions of jhiaxus have been based on some form of Starscreram toy that almost makes sense... or it would if they were using the original Classics mould to represent the G2 version, or one of the movie toys to represent the IDW version. It's actually impressive they've managed to go for one Starscream who in no way shape or form looks even a little Jhiaxusey.

As for Nightbeat... ****ing hell, they'll give Scoop a new toy but not bloody Nightbeat? Why? Oh hell, he's going to wind up looking like that in the comic isn't he? Lets hope he doesn't survive Dark Cybertron.

Clay
2014-01-14, 10:14 PM
After skimming through the output of the "Classics" series from the past few years, I was surprised at how limited the body shapes of the car figures are. As they've been slowly putting out new iterations of the 1984/1985 set, it's left little in the way of variety. They should have made a Breakdown or Dead End or something years ago - someone with a chest under the car frame. Could've been used to make three Stunticons, a passable Nightbeat, and any number of other characters.

Blackjack
2014-01-15, 12:45 PM
I don't know WHAT people were expecting from Jhiaxus, since his G2/REgeneration body doesn't look like it transforms into anything.

Didn't stop them from making a kickass Straxus toy despite him being as abstract as Jhiaxus was. ;)

It's the orange-ness of Jhiaxus that kind of put me off. I wouldn't mind so much if he was painted in G2 colours, but orange just makes me think 'Sunstorm' and not 'Jhiaxus'. Though really my disappointment over Nightbeat might just be bleeding over -- the fact that they're doing anything for Jhiaxus is a win in and of itself.

Probably not going to get any of the three here, though Jhiaxus would be tempting if he goes on clearance, if only for the fact that the orange-and-black deco looks pretty good.

(Jazz with alternate head, Warpath as Hardhead, Scourge as Ratbat, Perceptor as Reflector and one or more that elude me now], maybe this is what we were intended to have back then?

Oooh, I'd like that Warpath-Hardhead retool. Missed out on the Warpath mould back then, and Hardhead's one of my favourite designs. Would certainly prefer a Warpath retool than the stupid random blotchy design he currently has in IDW. I think I'm tempted by Reflector as well.

The other one was, IIRC, Arcee, which may or may not be a repaint, but was also seen in that big list of repaints back then.

Warcry
2014-01-21, 06:38 PM
In-hand pics of Whirl, via the Allspark (http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/97957-thrilling-30-whirl-in-hand-photos/)

Speaking as a big fan of Whirl's original design, this thing is so beautiful I can't even find words. Looking forward to it more than any Transformer (bar MP Soundwave, who might be a tie) in recent memory. :)

numbat
2014-01-21, 06:52 PM
Man, he does look awesome - an incredible homage indeed!

Unicron
2014-01-21, 08:51 PM
It's looks cool, but I can't help but be distracted by the presence of a sticker sheet. I thought we were past those?

inflatable dalek
2014-01-21, 08:54 PM
His face is kind of dark and soulless....


Perfect.

Denyer
2014-01-21, 09:40 PM
Look forward to.

Skyquake87
2014-01-21, 11:06 PM
Looks pretty nifty... quite skinny looking and a bit lost in the huge box. The 'three modes' seems a bit of a silly sell - what the heck else will he turn into?

Clay
2014-01-21, 11:45 PM
Looks pretty nifty... quite skinny looking and a bit lost in the huge box. The 'three modes' seems a bit of a silly sell - what the heck else will he turn into?

I think it's the gerwalk mode if I remember right.

Clay
2014-01-29, 01:06 AM
Deluxe Wave 5 including Arcee and Chromia confirmed (no pictures) (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-generations-classics-30-35/generations-2014-wave-5-deluxes-listed-arcee-and-chromia-confirmed-179185/)

Not that I don't doubt the authenticity of the listing, but I'd take a deep breath before getting too hopeful. Given Hasbro's tendency in the last few years to skip or cancel later waves, let's be cautiously optimistic.

Also, the security at the manufacturing level has much improved, hasn't it? Ten years ago, we had illicit knowledge of new Energon toys (via stolen test shots, etc.) a good six months before they actually showed up at retail. Now, new stuff is kept under wraps all the way to six weeks before release (thinking of Generations Sandstorm specifically).

EDIT: BBTS has the wave up for pre-order (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS23636&mode=retail).

Thunderwave
2014-01-29, 03:16 AM
Deluxe Wave 5 including Arcee and Chromia confirmed (no pictures) (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-generations-classics-30-35/generations-2014-wave-5-deluxes-listed-arcee-and-chromia-confirmed-179185/)

Not that I don't doubt the authenticity of the listing, but I'd take a deep breath before getting too hopeful. Given Hasbro's tendency in the last few years to skip or cancel later waves, let's be cautiously optimistic.

Also, the security at the manufacturing level has much improved, hasn't it? Ten years ago, we had illicit knowledge of new Energon toys (via stolen test shots, etc.) a good six months before they actually showed up at retail. Now, new stuff is kept under wraps all the way to six weeks before release (thinking of Generations Sandstorm specifically).


A couple of thoughts:

1) From what Hasbro has said, so far, Generations is going to be around at least as long as the next movie. Seeing as there is space to fill I'm not very skeptical these guys will make it to market, if Arcee and Chromia are, in fact, in the wave.

2) I seem to recall seeing some of the RotF and HftD toys months and months before their release. That said, you're right. Security at Hasbro's end has gotten a lot tighter then it used to be. I wonder what's changed.

Hasbro
2014-01-29, 02:28 PM
WORKER 003597, OFTEN REFERRED TO AS "ALAN", HAS BEEN TERMINATED. LEAKS ARE DOWN, MORALE IS UP, AND THE BREAKROOM REFRIGERATOR IS ONCE AGAIN A SECURE PLACE TO KEEP LABELED SANDWICHES AND YOGURTS. THE DECISION WAS VALID.

Knightdramon
2014-02-09, 10:50 AM
And first pics of leader Jetfire are up.

Never been much fan of the design, but the toy sure is beautiful.

Denyer
2014-02-09, 12:05 PM
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-generations-classics-30-35/generations-leader-jetfire-leaked-via-ebay-179263/

Prefer the earlier one.

Knightdramon
2014-02-09, 12:10 PM
Actually love this one. The earlier one has too many flaws, especially after 8 years of release.

Though I am dying to see the other leader, Megatron, they have up. People are saying he turns to a tank, he's close to the recent IDW design and toyfair starts sometime next week.

numbat
2014-02-09, 04:48 PM
That Skyfire does look awesome, and I'd certainly try to pick him up if he is the Generations Leader Class figure. However, I do still love my Classics Voyager figure.

I really do hope Leader Megatron is good - there's not been a decent Classics-style Megatron yet, and I'd love one. I would like a similar scale Optimus Prime to go alongside him though. What are the odds of that? It's been a while since a mainstream Classics G1-inspired release of ye olde Convoy...

inflatable dalek
2014-02-09, 04:53 PM
I domn't like Jetfire enough to need another toy of him, but that does seem nicely done, presumably the couple of third party people who were doing their own version will be buggered again.

Knightdramon
2014-02-09, 05:41 PM
Oh don't get me wrong; as a character/cartoon appearance, Jetfire does nothing for me. I don't even get why he's so popular, he shows up for 3-4 episodes and that's it.

As an airplane and Macross enthusiast though, it's pretty easy to like him :up:

Warcry
2014-02-09, 05:57 PM
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-generations-classics-30-35/generations-leader-jetfire-leaked-via-ebay-179263/

Prefer the earlier one.
Agreed. This one smooths out a lot of issues with the original, but I miss the chunky aesthetics of the Classics toy and all the pop-off accessories. This guy is going to look really cool looming over a shelf of Generations toys but I don't think he'll be anywhere near as much fun to play with.

Also not a fan of either of his heads.

Terome
2014-02-09, 06:00 PM
He is neat and would probably look great with the other recent Masterpiece guys but I like my Voyager guy well enough.

Unicron
2014-02-09, 09:27 PM
That Jetfire does look nice, and while the one from a few years ago isn't perfect, I'm not sure why we need a new one. I think I need to see better pics.

Knightdramon
2014-02-09, 09:45 PM
The more I look at it, the more I like it. This Jetfire is pretty much perfect looking, and this is coming from a guy who doesn't like Jetfire. [I LOVE the VF1, though].

Main deciding factors will be the size, and how clean that underside is going to look. It does look a bit kibbly and there's a lot of parts from the robot that I don't see on top of the jet...

It also appears that they're going to give us the option to sticker it up with those red wing labels. If that's the case, PLEASE Hasbro include the same labels in blue, green and yellow/black. [Macross colours].

Depending on how Megatron is going to look, and again, their SIZE...this might be the first time since 2009 or so that I'll just preorder a case and call it a day.

Red Dave Prime
2014-02-10, 02:03 AM
Anyone know of a reliable place to buy TF Generations Swerve and flanker? Tried Amazon with no look and while I found one on ebay the P&P from Tawain is €0.99 which makes me think its a bit dodgy.

Also looking for a generations Skids if anyone can point me in a safe direction.

Denyer
2014-02-10, 08:06 PM
Kapow do a twin-pack of Cosmos and Swerve plus the micromasters. Bit pricey factoring in postage.

Can't see any reasonably priced Skids around at the moment.

Knightdramon
2014-02-10, 08:19 PM
Reasonably priced Skids in Europe? Nah.

Cheapest I found on ebay cost around 30 quid before shipping.

Red Dave Prime
2014-02-10, 10:30 PM
Yep, there are no cheap skids to be found - as you say around 30 euros before additional shipping of about 20.

BUT I did bag me a singular Swerve, €24 through paypal. I am all full of hype. Should arrive bang on time for my birthday too.

I checked out that cosmos pack but I dont have a love for the green ufo guy - at least not enough to pay an extra €15 over what the swerve cost.

Clay
2014-02-15, 06:26 PM
Hasbro panel at NYC Toy Fair this weekend!

From TFW: (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/toy-fair-38/toy-fair-2014-hasbro-transformers-panel-179294/)

- Sneak peek at AOE Grimlock, Bumblebee and more on display!
- Hasbro LOVES TF Fans!
- Not leaving"Fan" toys behind.
- Amping up what they are doing
- Main line for Boys.
- Generations for Fans
- 54 Generations Toys in 2013, 73 for 2014!
- Movie and Classics Generations are coming, concurrent with main movie line
- Showing Movie Generations. High Octone Bumblebee, Deluxe 78 Camaro bumblebee
- Deluxe Crosshairs
- Deluxe Dinobot Slug (Triceratops purple and red)
- Dinobot Scorn
- Dexluxe Drift
- Dinobot Strafe - Flying Dino from Trailer
- Dinobot Slash - Blue, Baby Raptor

Generations Voyagers Wave 1
- Flat cab Optimus in G1 Colors
- Grimlock

Generations Wave 2
- Voyager Hound
- Galvatron confirmed as slash car/bot - Turns into black truck
- Prime and Grimlock are leaders
- All dinobots transform in movie
- All characters in movie will get Generations treatment

Classic Generations
- Legends Wave 3 - Gears and Eclipse
- All in room later (pics after panel)
- Acid Storm with Venin (mini drone piece)
- Deluce Wave 4 - Nightbeat (Goldfire remold?), Jhiaxus (armada Starscream Remold)
- Windblade (Fans Choice)

Voyager Wave 3
- Skybyte
- Roadbuster
- Both look amazing

Leaders
- Jetfire with vac metal pieces
- More leaders to come, not showing right now

Platinum and Masterpieces
- Not showing right now, reveal later in year
Kid Oriented Stuff
- Explaining reasoning behind move to simpler stuff
- 1 step Transforming products is like flipping a switchblade
- Flipchangers coming
- Lots of ato flipping and twisting stuff coming, not just a button press
- Physical, board Game - Battle Masters
- News Activision game with trailer is being shown!
- It's an AOE game
- It's Movier-verse vs War for Cybertron universe!
- Prime vs Prime, Grimlock vs Grimlock, Earth vs Cybertron, Bumblebee vs Bumbebee
- Graphics looks like previous WFC games (meaning looks great)

And that's all for Transformers



Basically a more thorough breakdown of what we've known: the proper 'mainline' toys will be far simpler fare, and the stuff we as collectors gravitate toward will all be lumped into Generations.

inflatable dalek
2014-02-15, 06:32 PM
What sort of a world do we live in where bloody Scoop gets an entirely new Generations toy but poor old Nightbeat doesn't?

Clay
2014-02-15, 06:36 PM
On a personal note, I consistently read Age of Extinction's acronym as "area of effect" and get confused. Over and over. Every time.:o

Clay
2014-02-15, 06:40 PM
What sort of a world do we live in where bloody Scoop gets an entirely new Generations toy but poor old Nightbeat doesn't?

<Shrugs>

Wouldn't worry about it. Springer got something like 17 different toys that were redecos that looked nothing like him and then, BAM, they nailed the LSOTW version.

Knightdramon
2014-02-15, 07:44 PM
Pictures of LDR Jetfire, Rattrap and voyager roadbuster [completely new mould] along with USA re-release of MP Grimlock here. (https://twitter.com/tfradio)

Pictures of LDR Grimlock and LDR Prime [proper, not FE] over at tfw2005.

Knightdramon
2014-02-15, 07:51 PM
We were shown weeks ago a repaint of Jazz as Nightbeat, plus a retool of Armada Starscream with a new head as Jhiaxus.

Now we get statements that Jhiaxus is brand new, while Nightbeat is repainted/retooled from Bumblebee/Goldbug.

Which is which? :lol:

Besides Grimlock and Prime, no sign of other generations movie bots.

Really happy that from the previews and all that, it seems they kept a very good ratio of new characters/updates in the movie generations line.

Clay
2014-02-15, 08:09 PM
Bunches of pictures at TFW now (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/toy-fair-38/toy-fair-2014-transformers-from-hasbro-event-179295/)

Roadbuster looks mighty nice. Should be a fine complement to Whirl.

zigzagger
2014-02-15, 08:19 PM
That Roadbuster is glorious. Yeah... yeah, I think I may have to go in on that one, as well as snag a Whirl to go with him.

Oh. Jhiaxus is orange.

**sigh**

Whatever.

Windblade (ugh, that name...), I must admit, turned out better than expected. A bit more interested in seeing and hearing about the rumored Arcee and Chromia, though.

A little concerned about the fate of that wee little Tailgate we heard about last year. Be a shame if that one got cancelled. EDIT: Err, no, wait... there he is :)

Knightdramon
2014-02-15, 08:24 PM
Jhiaxus IS using the Armada SS mould, it's just that lots of it has got retooling. Cockpit, head, wings appear entirely new?

:lol: About Jetfire's robot mode cockpit being right below the regular cockpit.

If you squint a lot, you can see voyager movie Prime and Galvatron in one picture next to FE LDR Prime.

Pretty much everything on display is a hand painted test shot. You can tell by the glare off the colouring.

Too bad there's no LDR Megatron [IDW inspired] shown. Yet.

Or some generations dlx cars from the movie. Those sound very promising.

inflatable dalek
2014-02-15, 08:26 PM
Considering he'd got a 1984 "Main Cast" reuse in him I'd be amazed if Tailgate doesn't wind up happening.

Considering the IDW version cribs design elements from him it would make more sense for Jhiaxus to have been done from one of the Movie Starscream toys, and saved on putting an extra use on the Armadascream toy before we've even had the obvious Seekers announced yet.

EDIT: Thinking about it, as well as Windblade the Acid Storm mentioned about will presumably be this toy as well...

Knightdramon
2014-02-15, 08:34 PM
Pics of the generations movie bots here (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/toy-fair-2014-coverage-first-look-from-the-showroom/29427/)

With that, I think we nearly have pictures of everything mentioned?
EDIT: Pictures of tailgate, acidstorm, gears and shrapnel [legends] in my link above.

inflatable dalek
2014-02-15, 08:39 PM
That answers some questions, and proves me almost instantly wrong on the Acid Storm thing. ;)

I think we're still waiting on a Nightbeat pic.

Knightdramon
2014-02-15, 08:40 PM
Rumoured-mentioned-listed but NOT seen, thus far, in the presentation, TODAY...

Generations VYGR Brainstorm
Generations LDR Megatron
Generations dlx Arcee and Chromia

Knightdramon
2014-02-15, 08:58 PM
Thoughts:

Generations deluxes, IDW
-Nothing extremely awesome pictured, although to be honest, besides Windblade, we've seen them all before.

Generations Voyagers, IDW/G1
-Roadbuster looks weird, but that's probably the very, very gloss colours vibrating on the strong camera flash. Otherwise, he looks like he's based on Whirl---both have many clip on misc guns, and stickers.
-Skybyte looks weaker than his original mould which came out in 1998 or something.

Generations Leaders, IDW/G1
-Jetfire looks like a nice mould, it appears Hasbro is going for some vac-metalic paint on their leaders now. Too bad about the cockpit cop out.

Generations deluxes, Movie
-Loving how they made Bumblebee, Drift and Crosshairs.
-LOVE Slug. LOVE it. WOW.
-Not so hot on Strafe. There appears to be at least 2 more---a red spinosaurus and a light blue, rarely seen velociraptor.

Generations voyagers, Movie
-Evasion Prime kind of reminds me toyworld's Orion. Looks like a fun mix between movie and IDW Prime
-Galvatron [the silver truck right after him] looks like a massive shellformer. I need to see more. Great truck mode
-Grimlock [right after Galvatron, brown] is...okay-ish. Looks more athletic and less barbaric than the LDR one. Not a fan of all the brown.

Generations Leaders, Movie
-Grimlock I really dig. He looks skeletal/messy/edgy enough. There appears to be some neat folding going on for his robot legs.
-Prime is meh. Looks a tad more complicated than the FE one, but otherwise very similar. Will have to wait him out to see who's really better.

Again, the big wow's from me are for Slug [purple COOL triceratops], and the 3 autobot cars. Voyager Prime too.

Terome
2014-02-15, 09:37 PM
I'd like to remark on how odd it is that it looks as though BW2 Galvatron is the villain of the new movie.

Still chewing over Sky-Byte. I still have the RID one kicking around in a box somewhere and I'm not convinced yet this is a good update.

Definitely getting that Roadbuster and Death's Head though.

Quite like the Dinobots and the green Autobot with the goggles. Shan't be getting any but they're nice designs.

Warcry
2014-02-15, 10:59 PM
Some interesting stuff in here, for sure.

The blue samurai-looking guy is Movie Drift, yeah? The Generations version of him actually looks pretty sweet. None of the other movie stuff does anything for me, though I like that the Dinobots are actually pretty colourful and I'm looking forward to seeing them on the big screen.

As for the other Generations stuff...eh. Jhiaxus looks terrible, Crosscut is bland as all hell and Tankor looks like a Rescue Bot. I suppose Windblade could be worse, though I'm struggling to figure out just how at the moment. Roadbuster is okay but nothing special, and I'm disappointed that he's actually blockier and less streamlined than the G1 toy.

Sky-Byte is nice, though I'm not a huge fan of the character. I'm not sure it's actually better than the TM2 Cybershark mold though, just "different". Gears looks cool...can't tell if they remolded the head or not, though. Rattrap is awesome too, but we knew that already.

Jetfire is really, really nice, I can't deny. So nice that I'm tempted to re-evaluate my earlier "nice, but I'll stick with Classics" position...except that they're also re-releasing MP Grimlock, and that's probably going to eat up my "big expensive TF" allotment for the year if I'm able to get my filthy paws on one.

Unicron
2014-02-15, 11:29 PM
Random bits of commentary:
Jetfire looks quite nice, though something about the jet mode makes it look strange to me. And I can tolerate the cockpit cheat
Roadbuster looks farily sweet
Windblade... Definitely not sold on it yet. Something seemed off about the proportions, though that may have been camera angle in the pics I looked at. My first thought on the jet mode was 'Looks like something that fell out of G2' and I'm not sure why

Can't complain about another crack at MP Grimlock, missed it the first time 'round. I'm a little disappointed about the lack of mention of the MP 84 cars or how they might get MP Ratbat out there.
Death's Head
What? Where?

zigzagger
2014-02-16, 02:57 AM
Official images are up, courtesy of TFW2005.

Age of Extinction
Leader: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/toy-fair-2014-age-of-extinction-generations-leader-class-images-179308/
Voyager: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/toy-fair-2014-age-of-extinction-generations-voyager-class-images-179307/
Deluxe: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/toy-fair-2014-age-of-extinction-generations-deluxe-class-images-179305/
Robots in Disguise: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/toy-fair-2014-age-of-extinction-robots-in-disguise-images-179310/

Generations
Leader: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/toy-fair-2014-generations-leader-class-jetfire-official-images-179300/
Voyager: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/toy-fair-2014-generations-voyagers-sky-byte-and-roadbuster-official-images-179303/
Deluxe: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/toy-fair-2014-generations-deluxe-nightbeat-windblade-and-jhiaxus-official-images-179302/
Legends: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/toy-fair-2014-generations-legends-gears-and-acid-storm-official-images-179301/

Kungfu Dinobot
2014-02-16, 06:52 AM
Official images are up, courtesy of TFW2005.

Age of Extinction
Leader: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/toy-fair-2014-age-of-extinction-generations-leader-class-images-179308/
Voyager: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/toy-fair-2014-age-of-extinction-generations-voyager-class-images-179307/
Deluxe: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/toy-fair-2014-age-of-extinction-generations-deluxe-class-images-179305/
Robots in Disguise: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/toy-fair-2014-age-of-extinction-robots-in-disguise-images-179310/

Generations
Leader: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/toy-fair-2014-generations-leader-class-jetfire-official-images-179300/
Voyager: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/toy-fair-2014-generations-voyagers-sky-byte-and-roadbuster-official-images-179303/
Deluxe: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/toy-fair-2014-generations-deluxe-nightbeat-windblade-and-jhiaxus-official-images-179302/
Legends: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/toy-fair-2014-generations-legends-gears-and-acid-storm-official-images-179301/


I'll probably get three Dinobots, Hound and 60's Bumblebee, if that's and indication of what I currently think of AoE.


Generations... Meh. Sky-Byte's cool, and Windblade's not shabby, but Tankor looks dreadfully generic for a Beast Machines character (I would get a Hardhead retool though). Everyone else is, eh....

Springer85
2014-02-16, 09:51 AM
I'm really liking Jetfire, but the cockpit on the bottom looks a bit weird to me and since I already have the classics version I think I'll pass.

Roadbuster looks great, but needs Whirl and if I can't get my hands on a Whirl I'm not getting Roadbuster either.

Nightbeat is a Bumblebee repaint, right? Head looks great, but I'm not a fan of the mould.

numbat
2014-02-16, 10:42 AM
I like a lot of the Generations Age of Extinction figures. I'll pick up a few if I can afford it at the time - Leader Grimlock looks cool, as does Voyager Galvatron for sure. I like the snub-nose Prime, but it's terribly lacking in paint applications - perhaps Takara will do better? The Deluxes look ok, but I'd need to see them in person. Which is a question - will those of us in the UK ever get to see the AoE Generations figures on shelves? Or will we just end up with the child-targeted Robots in Disguise figures?

I'm liking the Classics-style figures too - particularly Leader Jetfire (although he does seem unnecessary with the already excellent Voyager figure from years ago), Voyager Sky-Byte and Voyager Roadbuster. Not too into any of the Deluxes though.

Knightdramon
2014-02-16, 11:05 AM
I like a lot of the Generations Age of Extinction figures. I'll pick up a few if I can afford it at the time - Leader Grimlock looks cool, as does Voyager Galvatron for sure. I like the snub-nose Prime, but it's terribly lacking in paint applications - perhaps Takara will do better? The Deluxes look ok, but I'd need to see them in person. Which is a question - will those of us in the UK ever get to see the AoE Generations figures on shelves? Or will we just end up with the child-targeted Robots in Disguise figures?

I'm liking the Classics-style figures too - particularly Leader Jetfire (although he does seem unnecessary with the already excellent Voyager figure from years ago), Voyager Sky-Byte and Voyager Roadbuster. Not too into any of the Deluxes though.

At first I was about to say "why not, they are movie figures" but then I thought just a tad harder and came to the conclusion that for retailers, the listings will probably be under generations.

Having cooled down a bit from last night, I can add Strafe to my list of toys that I'd like to get.

Strafe, the cars obviously, and the voyager trucks and Hound.

Is it just me or does Galvatron look...uber generic? It's like somebody designed a stand-alone, morphless robot, and then decided to tack on a truck as an alt. mode.

Nice to see that after 7 years, the primary complaint about movie designs is finally addressed: these look extremely human-like. Hound, Drift and Crosshairs are almost alarmingly guilty of not looking like they transform into anything in the cgi shots :lol:

EDIT: Oh, by the way, I hope you guys like rubber plastic, because I sincerely doubt all those spikes and fins on the dinobots will be regular plastic ;)

Kungfu Dinobot
2014-02-16, 12:33 PM
Is it just me or does Galvatron look...uber generic? It's like somebody designed a stand-alone, morphless robot, and then decided to tack on a truck as an alt. mode.


WFC Megatron is uber generic too, didn't stop anyone salivating over *that* one.


Nice to see that after 7 years, the primary complaint about movie designs is finally addressed: these look extremely human-like. Hound, Drift and Crosshairs are almost alarmingly guilty of not looking like they transform into anything in the cgi shots :lol:


I'm just glad they don't look like Jersey Shore muppets lol.


EDIT: Oh, by the way, I hope you guys like rubber plastic, because I sincerely doubt all those spikes and fins on the dinobots will be regular plastic ;)

Can't be worse than Dreadwing, can it?:(

Seems like only leader Grimlock has significant amount of it. Maybe Slug too, wait and see at this point.

Denyer
2014-02-16, 06:53 PM
Also hero mashers... kind of Actionmaster-y...

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/other-news-20/toy-fair-2014-transformers-hero-mashers-official-images-179311/

Nightbeat's not bad, nor is Roadbuster. Windblade actually looks a bit better than the IDW cover art.

Clay
2014-02-16, 09:26 PM
I'm liking the Classics-style figures too - particularly Leader Jetfire (although he does seem unnecessary with the already excellent Voyager figure from years ago),

The problem is that, at eight years old, the first Classics Jetfire came out before all the success of the movies. If they reissue the first toy, it won't appeal to people that have been here long enough to have it from back when. If they make a new toy, it'll be a tough sale to people that already have the first one and alienate more by creating a perception that they double-dip (they do). And if they do neither, they leave all the people that have wandered in since 2007 paying secondary market prices (I assume a sealed Classics Jetfire would be pricey now?).

Really, it's kind of screwy no matter what option is chosen. As scary as it sounds, the first run of Classics toys was eight years ago now and on the other side of the film franchise, so effectively the market for new or reissued Classics/Generations/Universe/whatever figures is starting to open up.

Thunderwave
2014-02-16, 10:16 PM
The problem is that, at eight years old, the first Classics Jetfire came out before all the success of the movies. If they reissue the first toy, it won't appeal to people that have been here long enough to have it from back when. If they make a new toy, it'll be a tough sale to people that already have the first one and alienate more by creating a perception that they double-dip (they do). And if they do neither, they leave all the people that have wandered in since 2007 paying secondary market prices (I assume a sealed Classics Jetfire would be pricey now?).

Really, it's kind of screwy no matter what option is chosen. As scary as it sounds, the first run of Classics toys was eight years ago now and on the other side of the film franchise, so effectively the market for new or reissued Classics/Generations/Universe/whatever figures is starting to open up.

I'm one of those people. I've managed to snag pieces here and there when I could and that I wanted, but getting a hold of some are a PITA. Lets be honest with ourselves, 8 years is a long time in terms of engineering. Classics Prowl looks rather dated next to, say, Jazz. Hot Rod looks downright blocky and clumsy next to Kup and Blurr. Galvatron is a mess next to Scourge (although there is nothing wrong with Cyclonus). The IDW Megatron is the first half way decent Megatron so far (although the NERF gun one scores points for creative insanity). There is plenty of room to go back and revise older figures and fill in gaps they missed the first time around.

numbat
2014-02-17, 11:21 AM
There is plenty of room to go back and revise older figures and fill in gaps they missed the first time around.
I totally agree - but I would have started with G1 Optimus Prime and a decent version of G1 or G2 Megatron.

I've really been wanting a Classics-style Optimus Prime to lead my Classics-style figures for a long time. I never picked up the original version, and I really don't know why. Other than the fact I had very little money and so plumped for the Ultra Magnus version of the mould (mainly because I wanted Skywarp, but it all worked out well with the excellent City Commander armour).

And my Classics-style Decepticons are led by either Botcon Clench or TFCC Scourge. It would be nice to have a decent Megatron I can connect with.

So, yeah, all for revisiting the Classics characters, but just confused by a Leader Jetfire is all.

(Although I'll do my best to buy him if I can afford it!)

Blackjack
2014-02-17, 12:43 PM
ROADBUSTERRRRRR!

Damn, this year will be a mainly Voyager-filled purchase. Roadbuster, Whirl and Rhinox are all excellent moulds this line is doing, and Sky-Byte looks great as well... will probably pass on Sky-Byte though since I can't really justify the space. Pity since he looks really, really good.

The retooled Jhiaxus looks better, but he's still a homage to the Universe instead of the G2 so I still don't want him. Nightbeat has changed moulds and is miles better, but for me personally he's still in the 'maybe buy' category. Windblade looks a lot, lot better than the promotional art Hasbro was waving months ago, and kabuki face aside, I might be interested in getting her. After all, I got Drift before liking Drift was cool.

Legends class Acid Storm and Gears... expected, not particularly excited beyond the fact that Acid Storm is kinda showing up everywhere and it's glorious.

Leader Jetfire... yeah, I don't really... care? I mean, I know there are a lot of JetSkyfire fans out there, but I personally don't find Jetfire that desirable. Great that they're making a Leader class figure out of him and it looks supremely wonderful, but it's an easy pass for me.

Skyquake87
2014-02-17, 03:22 PM
I'm not sure what I make of Roadbuster. I was looking forward to him, seeing as this would be the most likely version of the character I'd go for, but he looks like a flipping Constructabot :( I wish he looked a little closer to the G1 toy - like Whirl did. Perhaps he comes over better in the flesh. Hmmm. Leader Jetfire on the other hand, looks very impressive and much more refined than the '06 Voyager figure. Wont be one I'll be picking up though as the Bandai sourced original is still bloody ace and does it for me.

As for everything else, not especially bothered. And probably a good job too as no doubt the majority of this stuff will fail to make it to the UK. Prime has been something of a shelf warmer here in the UK , Beast Hunters especially so, and given the market's trend towards smaller and cheaper figures it'll be interesting to see what retailers plump for.

I suspect that TRU, being the only retailer to carry Generations in the UK will be more likely to plump for the Generations Movie guys, given that they will have the huge advertisement of the film.

ganon578
2014-02-17, 05:06 PM
Never one to pick up much Movie-verse items, the AoE toys look neat, but I'm not fussed to pick up any of them. Is it just me, or does Leader Grimlock look oddly proportioned in T-Rex mode? Maybe the torso is too long?

The Generations figs are much more up my alley - good thing I don't have a soft spot for any of the characters coming out. A lot of those will come down to money in my pocket or not. If I did bite, I'd only be interested in Whirl, Roadbuster, Jhiaxus, or Nightbeat. Jetfire looks really good, but I still have much love for my Classics Voyager one. Going to be a nice easy year on the old wallet!

Warcry
2014-02-17, 05:19 PM
I suspect that TRU, being the only retailer to carry Generations in the UK will be more likely to plump for the Generations Movie guys, given that they will have the huge advertisement of the film.
Not sure if they'd have the ability to pick and choose between the two, actually. I got the impression that the movie toys would just be a couple waves' worth of product from the ongoing Generations line rather than a separate assortment of their own, and most retailers aren't equipped to worry about which wave of a line they're ordering. If they check off the "Generations" box to get the Movie stuff, and it sells well enough to get them to restock, you would hopefully see the G1 guys later.

numbat
2014-02-17, 05:23 PM
If they check off the "Generations" box to get the Movie stuff, and it sells well enough to get them to restock, you would hopefully see the G1 guys later.
Pretty sure that's what happened with the Classics stuff where I lived back in 2006 - Cybertron ended and the shelves started sporting a mix of Cybertron and Classics figures on the same pegs. But that was Dumfries & Galloway...

I've been very disappointed by the lack of much Generations stuff in the UK. Even my nearest TRU has very little - lots of Orion Pax and IDW Megatron shelf-warming the Deluxe pegs, and FoC Grimlock and Soundwave shelf-warming the Voyagers. Plus loads of those rubbish FoC cassettes.

I'll probably not risk waiting - if I have the money available I'll try and get Generations AoE and Classics stuff from the US this year.

Knightdramon
2014-02-17, 07:30 PM
Like it or not, the first Jetfire figure was designed and released around 2006...8 years ago.

There are many flaws with that figure, evident both back then and even more now.

Hands that do nothing in jet mode [no hiding place]
Head looks undersized/oversized depending on if the helmet is on or off.

But the biggest, glaring issue is the legs. Those CL Astrotrain legs that only ratchet sideways, bend at the oddest angle at the hip and the split away nozzles for feet.

I've been able to pose mine just fine, but it's more limiting than it should.

Though I agree on all ends that there's more big brutes in the franchise deserving of a LDR figure than Jetfire, the end result isn't too shabby looking.

Thunderwave
2014-02-17, 11:28 PM
Though I agree on all ends that there's more big brutes in the franchise deserving of a LDR figure than Jetfire, the end result isn't too shabby looking.

Consider this; In the G1 cartoon Jetfire was huge. Starscream came up to what, his sternum on average? He towered over other characters. Having a Leader class Jetfire kinda makes sense.

Clay
2014-02-18, 02:37 AM
I'm still waiting for a leader movie Bonecrusher :(

Blackjack
2014-02-18, 06:04 AM
I'm still waiting for a leader movie Bonecrusher :(

Oh damn, I want that too. :(

-wanders off to rewatch the Bonecrusher scene from the first movie-

numbat
2014-02-18, 07:21 AM
I'm still waiting for a leader movie Bonecrusher :(
I wish... At least a Voyager one... I naively passed on the Deluxe thinking a larger Bonecrusher would surely appear. Big mistake.

But, then, a Leader Class DOTM Megatron also seems a terrible omission - and AoE looks to repeat this mistake. Leader Class has become the province of Autobots only... Which is a bit crap really.

Blackjack
2014-02-18, 09:38 AM
And somehow they had the time to put Movie Ironhide and Classics Jetfire into the Leader class section... oh well.

Kungfu Dinobot
2014-02-18, 10:03 AM
Okay, my thought:


LDR Jetfire: Sweet ass Jet mode. I can tolerate the fake cockpit, but he just doesn't seem to be worth the money. Not unless the transformation does something really clever, which I kind of expect.

legends: Meh, Shrapnel is the only one I'm interested in (I like bugs). Gears is Gears and Acid Storm is green Starscream.

DLX Classics: Windblade actually looks good, better than the last manufacture badass, if only by virtue of being a) A fembot (LOLOL please don't judge me) and b) Not looking all Funana-styled. Even jet mode does not look too bad, despite obvious legs. Jhiaxus is.... I just wish they used a new mold. Nightbeat is not bad, but the Bumblebee body is kind of boring. Tankor is much better than my first opinion was, but he still doesn't have the Robocop-Walker legs, so that's a minus. Rattrap looks kind of boring, but not awful. Crosscut, who gives a shit?

VOY Classics: Sky-bite, unlike Tankor, is crappier than my first impression. Most of the Shark's just hanging 'round his body. They could just get it to fold around him or something, it can't be hard. Roadbuster is cool. I can live with the stiff wrist, and I love getting heavies for my collection, but did he really have to be *that* square? I mean, I get that some people like stiff blocks, but maaan...

AOE LDR: Grimlock's cool, but the rex mode is shit. For Optimus the kibble distribution is much better than the first edition, and he have silver stacks (yay!) But I'll stick with my one, for now....

AOE DLX: Most of the cars look decent, but not particularly clever. Except for Crosshairs. They pulled out the coat *much* better than I expected, but wait and see... Slug looks mistransformed (I have the feeling the beast forelimbs fill out his waist) but still looks beast anyways. Scorn got a real BW Megs look going on, and the sail fins are real clever (though I had a similar idea once). Strafe is no worse than Ani Swoop (unless you hate designers taking liberties with beast modes, like they do constantly:lol:). Slash...looks awkward.

AOE VOY: Damn, that Grimlock NOW that's the one to look out for. love how his rex torso forms leg armor (instead of just hanging on his back like G1). Prime is cool, but wait and see. Galvatron isn't as bad as everyone's making him out to be (indeed, I might forgive his shellformering if the gun's cool enough). Hound, however is worth it just for the ammunition, and that's not counting the badass truck, or the bandolier arms, or the beard...

Warcry
2014-05-04, 03:02 PM
Final pics of Leader Jetfire: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/generations-leader-jetfire-in-box-images-179875/

He's missing around half the paint apps that were in the pics they showed off after Toyfair. Brilliant! $50 toys are totally where they should be indulging in petty cost-cutting measures, right? Because the things sell so well as it is...

Unicron
2014-05-05, 12:17 AM
Damn, that is a lot of plain white on him. Couldn't they have gone with non-chromed weapons to make budget for paint apps?

Skyquake87
2014-05-05, 08:24 AM
But, but... all that white makes him Sunobw accurate...!

I rather like the look of this guy. The alt mode is nice and swish and the robot mode looks good. I like faceplate/ helmet version bestest though. The chrome on the weapons is a bit of an odd choice, but otherwise he looks pretty nifty.

numbat
2014-05-05, 02:18 PM
He looks nice, but with the lack of paint apps, the Classics Voyager figure looks a lot better.

If Takara do a better paint job on the guy, I'd prefer to go for that even at a mark up.