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HotShot81
2014-05-08, 12:53 AM
I caught this (http://www.allspark.com/content/2014/05/next-monday-is-cybertron-monday-at-toysrus-canada/) on Facebook. I don't know how much it's on the up and up, but it could be good for us Canadian Bot shoppers.

Notabot
2014-05-08, 03:54 AM
I've actually already seen a couple stores with the one-step Grimlocks and OPs. The packaging looked similar to Prime boxes, so I got excited for a bit. Then I saw it was TF4, not Prime, and I got really excited. Then I saw the toys inside and felt no more excitement at all.

Clay
2014-05-11, 01:21 AM
Yeah, I saw the one-step Grimlock about a week ago, and today the store had some dino-rider sparkler things and the nominally proper line consisting of the greatly simplified deluxe-sized toys. Haven't seen the Generations subset with the more detailed figures, but things are starting to trickle out.

Ryan F
2014-05-13, 08:02 PM
Apparently in the UK, all the "proper" AOE toys (voyagers, deluxes, leaders etc) will be store exclusives??? Argos have the leaders, TRU have everything else.

Which is why, when you look on toy websites such as The Entertainer or Smyths, there's nothing but that one-step kiddie rubbish, spark chargers, flip changers and whatever else it's called.

Luckily I have an Argos nearby, but if I want a Deluxe Dinobot or Voyager Evasion Mode Prime I need to take a trip to my "local" TRU in Ipswich!!!??? And 15 for a deluxe!!!???

WTF Hasbro?

Denyer
2014-05-13, 08:16 PM
Down to the retailers, is the impression I get. Hasbro want the things to be everywhere whereas main figures being exclusives generally means other stores won't stock the stuff.

Knightdramon
2014-05-13, 09:05 PM
Still, shopping in Argos can be a gamble. Luckily, if they are limited to leaders, you have a 1 in 2 chance of getting the one you actually want.

Local TRU for me is about 30 minutes away by bus. Last time I was there [which was...last June. Jesus time flies by] they were very decently stocked.

Argos is like 4 minutes away by walking. But if I get the leaders [all signs point to yes], I'm getting both takara versions. They got it right from the get go.

Skyquake87
2014-05-13, 10:09 PM
Doesn't surprise me the AoE stuff is exclusives in the UK - A lot of TF lines over the last four years from HFTD, Animated & Prime have all ended up remaindered. I'm guessing Transformers have been an easy pass for a lot of retailers over here.

numbat
2014-05-14, 10:18 AM
I feared that Generations (ie decent figures) would be TRU exclusives - even more awkward to have Leader's in Argos, and the rest in TRU... It's difficult for me to get to Argos and even harder to get to TRU.

Then, Argos make a huge deal in the lead-up to the release of the figures, with a countdown clock and videos on their website, then two days after launch they still don't have them instock anywhere in Scotland (dunno about the rest of the UK). Serious anti-climax!

Clay
2014-05-21, 01:06 AM
Saw some of the movie generations figures for the first time today. My reaction was mostly one of apathy. I mean, they looked fine, but nothing really piqued my interest, even as puzzles. Still excited for the movie, but I'm thinking this time I may just enjoy the spectacle of it without worrying too much about physical representations.

Skyquake87
2014-05-21, 06:41 AM
This is pretty much how I'm feeling. I'm also turned off by successive years of cost cutting. Whilst I didn't mind the downsizing on the DOTM toys, the lack of finishing and all that grey plastic I found a real turn off. Prime has appealed mainly on the engineering side of things, but the cheaper and cheaper construction glimpsed towards the end of the line (hello Beast Hunters Voyager Prime) is a real turn off.

This new movie line is also seeing a further price hike, with Deluxes now priced at 15 and a TRU exclusive at that (so those prices are unlikely to change) , so I can't honestly say I'll be wanting to pick anything up for that kind of money. I'll be interested to see how they turn out in various reviews, but I feel...well priced out!

Cliffjumper
2014-05-21, 07:26 AM
I think we're beginning to see Transformers gradually wind down - or at least change focus - from being a toyline into more of a general media property. Compared to ten years ago the toy sales are no longer God anymore to Hasbro.

I'd wager their cut of the DOTM box office was more than their profits from the associated toyline, and Prime was very media-driven rather than the "throw as many toys as you can into the thing" cartoon that you'd probably expect from a show made and broadcast in-house by a toy company; they'd have the comic rights back off IDW in a jiffy if the medium was worth the hassle.

Licensing this side of Bay is probably massive and toys are on the wane compared to mobile apps and the like. The toyline for AoE seems effectively nominal in the West; tag on Generations becoming more and more fan-orientated and we're seeing a change in commerical pattern here.

Warcry
2014-05-21, 03:53 PM
Saw some of the movie generations figures for the first time today. My reaction was mostly one of apathy. I mean, they looked fine, but nothing really piqued my interest, even as puzzles. Still excited for the movie, but I'm thinking this time I may just enjoy the spectacle of it without worrying too much about physical representations.
I'm more-or-less in the same boat as you are. Scorn the Spinosaurus caught my eye (and is a pretty cool throwback to Beast Wars designs) when I walked by the huge display at TRU but I don't even remember what other figures I saw there because they all felt very samey to me.

I think a fair bit of that is just down to the movie's lack of characterization for most of the Transformers. I already have great toys that represent Prime and Bee, the only two characters who really matter, and a handful of other really good movie toys that show off what that style of engineering can do. There's really not much to draw me into buying, say, Crosshairs when there are already a bunch of other movie-style cars out there and I know he's probably not going to get more than a handful of lines in the film itself. The only thing "new" about this line seems to be the Dinobots, and even then I don't know if I care to own more than the one I've already got.

I think we're beginning to see Transformers gradually wind down - or at least change focus - from being a toyline into more of a general media property. Compared to ten years ago the toy sales are no longer God anymore to Hasbro.
You're absolutely right on this. In fact, I vaguely remember Hasbro themselves coming out and saying that a couple years back. And honestly, it makes perfect sense. The toy market is both shrinking and diversifying, with kids turning to other pursuits sooner and buying fewer toys than in the 80s at the same time as the adult market (spurred on by the movies and growth in Asia) gets bigger. There's always going to be toys but the fiction is more important than ever now, because Hasbro is now more interested in creating life-long fans who are going to be buying tickets to TF movies in their 20s and 30s even if they haven't picked up a toy in decades (or ever) than it is in selling toys to them for three years and then moving on to the next crop of kids.

I'd wager their cut of the DOTM box office was more than their profits from the associated toyline
I don't think there's any doubt of that. In fact, I'd go farther -- I wouldn't be surprised if the money they made off of DOTM's box office (and DVD/Bluray sales) was more than they made off of every TF line between DOTM and AoE. It was a billion-dollar movie, after all.

another tf fan
2014-05-21, 04:43 PM
Cliffy's right as usual. The toys are simply less important overall.

I have the Masterpiece line to thrill me and any mainline toys that catch my eye are just bonus.

I can say I was around for the toys Zenith in 84-85 and its return to greatness somewhere between 2007 and 2010.

That's pretty good for a franchise based on the basest of concepts and demonstrates the engineering trumps other action figure toys.

As for AoE launch dates around here, Walmart refuses to get in the ring which seems odd and maybe they're just behind the trend by a few weeks.

Skyquake87
2014-05-21, 05:16 PM
Well, Walmart's British arm Asda is on board.

Have to say, they've made these a very easy pass. Legends for 6, Some Commander Classed things for 9 and some rather piddly looking Deluxe toys for 12.

I'm guessing these are the kid -friendly ones?

Packaging isn't very interesting either, with just character art, name and pictoral instructions on the back.

wooo

Clay
2014-06-02, 02:03 AM
Went to a Toys R Us on Saturday and the Transformers display was considerable. They had a big cardboard Grimlock straddling the entrance and another behind the toy shelves. Lots of product was out, but curiously no Generations Deluxe movie figures (they had the voyagers and leaders, though).

It's definitely biased towards Autobots. I think the only Decepticon figures I saw were Construct-o-bots.

G1Optimusprime9
2014-06-04, 12:46 PM
Thats cool Im not as excited as I could be because I am a big G1 fan but I will still most likely get the figures and watch the movie

numbat
2014-06-07, 07:24 PM
TRU in Scotland has had lots of Generations Deluxes in stock for the last couple of weeks (where I got Bumblebee and Crosshairs). Their arrivale was slightly delayed, but they're here now. No Voyagers yet though.

They also had a huge display with massive banners above the toys, but at least 2/3 of the products underneath were not movie-related. Mainly Fall of Cybertron Generations and Beast Hunters, with a small selection of TF4 Jousters, simple figures, and those Deluxes.

Other than Lockdown and Galvatron are there Decepticons in the movie? They're the only toys I can think of due out from the faction. And they're not until much later waves, are they?

Notabot
2014-06-07, 08:05 PM
It looks like Walmart has knocked the AoE and Generations deluxes back down to $10. Yay!

Clay
2014-06-07, 08:14 PM
Well, that figures. I just bought the spinosaurus guy Wednesday at full price. Still, I may investigate the triceratops fellow sooner than my one-dinobot-a-week pace that I've set for myself.

numbat
2014-06-08, 07:31 AM
I forgot the evil red Bumblebee Stinger fellow. Three named Decepticons - does that mean the rest will be nameless silver dudes again? At least one of the Decepticons is colourful this time - Dark of the Moon lacked much flash in their screen baddies (Shockwave wasn't so purple in the film as he was in the toy if I recall).

I'm figuring the Dinobots will be of dubious allegiance to begin with.

Knightdramon
2014-06-08, 05:38 PM
Quite possibly. Furthermore, of those 3, it appears only Lockdown is a pure Cybertronian.

This does trouble me a little bit...6 Autobots, 6 Dinobots...all for a villain who transforms to a car no less? Isn't that a bit...overboard?

another tf fan
2014-06-08, 06:46 PM
Just bought my first movie 4 toy, the '67 Camaro Bumblebee.

I really like the new packaging.

Oddly, while the '74 Camaro fit the storyline of the '07 movie, the '09-current car that Bee becomes is more of a styling evolution of the first gen '67-'69 cars. I'm glad I can now put a first gen Camaro next to its proper successor.

I'm actually quite thrilled when Transformers goes and does something like use an old car for an alt mode.

numbat
2014-06-08, 07:49 PM
This does trouble me a little bit...6 Autobots, 6 Dinobots...all for a villain who transforms to a car no less? Isn't that a bit...overboard?
His face does turn into a gun. That's pretty hardcore, even if he is titchy for a lead villain.

;)

There must be way more to it.

Skyquake87
2014-06-09, 07:58 AM
Maybe Lockdown is going to be something like his Animated counterpart and some kind of bad ass hunter out to hunt the Dinobots...or mop up the Autobots whom stumble upon the Dinobots and some other hithero undisclosed finding by the US government...!

Knightdramon
2014-06-09, 07:28 PM
Can't really see how badass he can be to go toe to toe/be the final villain in a universe where the heroes have outright killed the big 4 already, plus a god.

It's the equivalent of a G1 episode where the autobots have killed all the decepticons and the main villain is like, Runabout. :lol:

Unicron
2014-06-09, 08:31 PM
Can't really see how badass he can be to go toe to toe/be the final villain in a universe where the heroes have outright killed the big 4 already, plus a god.

It's the equivalent of a G1 episode where the autobots have killed all the decepticons and the main villain is like, Runabout. :lol:

Well, hate to say it be they could always be going for a 'Herald of Unicron with commensurate power boost' thing.

numbat
2014-06-09, 09:03 PM
It's the equivalent of a G1 episode where the autobots have killed all the decepticons and the main villain is like, Runabout. :lol:
At least I know who Runabout is without having to learn via tinternet!

:swirly:

ganon578
2014-06-09, 09:07 PM
None of the AoE figures are jumping out for me. I don't mind the dinobots, but their weird color palettes is off-putting. I'll probably pass on pretty much everything, but I hear there's a possibility of G1 redecoed dinobots down the line. That is more interesting to me!

The thing I really haven't liked out of the last few movie figures (and especially in AoE) is the same characters spaced over various different classes. If my wife and kids ever want to pick out something as a gift, there's a high probability I could end up with a sparkabot or one-step changer instead of a deluxe class figure that the collector in me really wants. To me there are just far too many versions of the same characters on the shelf at the same time.

Auntie Slag
2014-06-09, 09:26 PM
I"m expecting a high Autobot death count, the problem is do they really matter when they're such a bunch of Hi-then-die types?

They could've brought Jolt back. Apart from people like us on TF boards I'm sure no-one else was aware he was even in Revenge of the Fallen. Also, where has Sideswipe gone?

another tf fan
2014-06-11, 10:04 PM
Picked up the "Evasion Mode" Voyager Optimus Prime last night.

It's a great transformer...the Robot mode is highly poseable, the truck looks good from most angles and the conversion is clever and new.

inflatable dalek
2014-06-18, 07:22 PM
Having been under the impression they were all Argos/TRU exclusives I was surprised to see the Tesco I work at has shoved all the Prime: Beast Hunters: Predacons Rising toys no one has been buying (one day they'll be a land fill full of Abominuses. Abomoni?) to one side to make way for a variety of different AoE toys. They're different sizes but all the simpler transformation guys, with 99.999999999999999999999999% of them being Dinobot related.

Skyquake87
2014-06-18, 08:21 PM
Asda has the simpler, gimmick -driven toys too. IIRC, tehy've all got massive right fists for comical punching action. They do have the Commander Class Cyberverse scaled versions of Optimus and Grimlock and the 'kid' friendly deluxes, along with Some G1 Legends figures.

TRU have all that plus the stuff most fans will probably be interested in - the 'proper' Generations Deluxe AoE and Argos have the Leader Class figures.

Think thats how its worked

Knightdramon
2014-06-18, 08:59 PM
After some weeks have passed, can comment on the following;

LDR Class Grimlock--good robot, very bad dino. Was contemplating him by he looks more like a crocodile with big feet than a t-rex. Elongated torso hurts him.

--VYGR Grimlock--other way around. Very nice t-rex, bad robot. Half a dino jaw hanging off his ass is just bad.

--Deluxe Dinos--First three look ok, Slash looks bad. Actually like the first 3 a lot, but it seems they are the only ones in the film along with Grimlock.

--Deluxe cars--All three look great. We know BB has a new version [modern camaro] and will probably stay in black oldie mode for like 20 minutes in the movie. The other 2 are great on screen, not entirely faithful in flesh. I'm afraid of buying either just in case hasbro brings out a more accurate mould half a year later [ala Sidearm Sideswipe, Battle Blades BB etc]. Lockdown is possibly a guaranteed takara purchase straight away.

--VYGR trucks--Evasion Prime will be bought [rusty deco from one UK retailer, price is okay]. Galvatron is cool [I laugh at the truck top folding on itself...seems like a nice f*ck off to complaining fans] but very basic, Hound seems small and "better version coming out a tad later" phobia gets the best of me.

--LDR Prime--seriously tempted to look for a takara version at AA this year. Like the design and basic-ness of the figure a lot.

numbat
2014-06-19, 09:34 PM
Have to say I'm really enjoying Takara's AD-01 Leader Prime. The Takara paint job is gorgeous, the mould super-detailed, and he's so fun to pick up and transform. In fact I'm playing with him more a few weeks down the line than when I got him. The truck mode is great too but there is no escaping the fact the robot mode has that back kibble.

Really like Generations Deluxe Crosshairs too - two great modes, interesting robot design, but simple and fun transformation. Classic Bee is cool too, but obviously not so original. Voyager Grimlock is OK, but neither mode is great in my opinion. I have the Hasbro versions of those three.

I have a bunch of Takara versions on order which should arrive between July and August although plan to pick up Hasbrto's new Bee and Drift if they show in TRU.