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Warcry
2014-07-17, 05:59 AM
After digging through a few boxes in my basement, I was reminded of just how bloody many Transformers I own. I was also reminded of how much I liked some of those toys five or ten years ago, but how they've been pushed aside by newer, shiner things as the years wore on. And that's what this thread is for: revisiting the toys we used to love (or hate) and seeing just what we think of them now. As a fandom we tend to be all over whatever the hot new thing is, often to the extent we forget about last year's "best TF ever". Well, none of that in here!

I'll start off with a few of mine. Feel free to toss in some of your own, or argue whatever I've got to say about mine.

Let's start with three guys I pulled out of the box pretty much at random:

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_SharkticonSkywarpBrawl_robot_zps4e85d231.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/SharkticonSkywarpBrawl_robot_zps4e85d231.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_SharkticonSkywarpBrawl_alt_zpse80d5836.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/SharkticonSkywarpBrawl_alt_zpse80d5836.jpg.html)

Universe Skywarp dates back to 2004, though the mold he's based on is several years older. The Deluxe Jetstorm mold was the Classics Seeker of its' day, with five nicely distinctive decos coming out within half a decade. If you'd told people then that Skywarp was going to be the last time we'd see the mold, I think you'd have elicited a sigh of relief from the fandom at large. But you know what? This is a really good toy! The jet mode in particular is brilliant, second only to G1 Cyclonus (and his Universe update) when it comes to futuristic aircraft. The robot mode is very poseable, hindered only by the huge arms, and manages to look very alien without being ugly or silly like a lot of the BM Vehicons were.

Verdict: I still love it! Skywarp is a great representative of two different eras: Beast Machines Vehicons, and the original Universe line of random redecos.

Energon Sharkticon (also 2004) has gotten some reuse more recently, with Fun Publications using the mold as the basis for a new Sky-Byte and an army of G1 Sharkticons and Takara inexplicably redecoing him into the Axalon. He was by far my favourite toy in the Energon line at the time, and taking another look at him now I still think he's pretty good. His robot mode has better articulation than pretty much anything else from the Unicron Trilogy, he's got a million cool built-in weapons and his colour scheme is adorably mad. Plus he's got a great head sculpt with tonnes of personality.

He's got some flaws, though. The biggest one is that he's clearly wearing more than half of his alt-mode as a cape in robot mode, and while it looks alright it tends to make him really back-heavy. His alt-mode is equally flawed, with clear robot bits in the underside and making up its tail.

Verdict: I can't not love this guy. He's got some problems, but the toy has so much personality that they're easy to look past. I think he might well be my favourite UT toy.

ROTF Brawl is newer than those two (2009, with a mold from 2007), but he's easily the most primitive of the three. Colours aside, he manages to capture the look of the on-screen character pretty well. And the talk mode is absolutely brilliant. But as a Transformer, it's a bit of a mess! It's in this weird place where it's got almost no useful articulation, yet still feels like it has too many moving parts. Lots of bits don't lock into place like you'd wish they would, but the arms and legs are weirdly jointed, so I'm left feeling like the only parts that are poseable are the ones that aren't actually meant to move.

Verdict: This one is really showing his age. I love the character design and he's got a great look, but this just isn't a very good toy. A shame the Leader-class Brawl goes for $100 now. :(

Anyone else feel like digging out their old favourites? :)

Blackjack
2014-07-17, 06:43 AM
Here's a couple older toys that I've mucked around on my desk alongside Generations Drift before the influx of new toys came in. There is totally not a pattern.

Classics/Universe Hound: Hound! Why does no one talk about Hound? When people are praising the Generations lines it's always Starscream and Mirage and Cyclonus and Onslaught and whatever, but Hound! I've completely forgotten that I even own this little bugger standing behind a sea of far taller Autobot cars. Hound is significantly shorter than most of the other Classics Autobot cars, having sacrificed some of his deluxe-class mass to his pack-in partner Ravage. But he's a pretty good toy! He looks like Hound, he's a great update to the character in both alternate and robot modes, comes with a funky little gun... he's got a great transformation (his chairs transform!) and great poseability all around. His square-y feet can hinge around like an ankle to allow him to stand with his feet apart. Hound's a pretty awesome little toy.

G1 Crosshairs: Crosshairs is one of the few Generation One toys I managed to track down (no Pinpointer though, so he moonlights with one of the PCC Minicons), though I haven't exactly played with it much once I cleaned the thick layer of dust that was caking it and peeled off the half-dead stickers... and then he just kind of sits there on the back of my G1 shelf, looking big and imposing and nothing else. And playing around with him... he's pretty awesome, actually, even for a G1 toy. The first-year Targetmasters in general have great alternate modes (though Sureshot never excited me, and both Scourge and Kup have ridiculous-looking alternate modes) and Crosshairs' alternate mode is one that has never registered in my head until I've bought the toy. It's this wacky futuristic vehicle that's a cross between a van and an ATV with massive dune buggy wheels. And it's red and blue because why not? He's got pretty great articulation for a toy his time (read: shoulders, wrists, knees) and his transformation is pretty intuitive. It's certainly showing its age compared to a lot of the newer toys with ball joints and everything, and while obviously a less fun toy than Hound or Lockdown in this list he's still a pretty fun one.

(I want Misfire)

Encore G1 Bumblebee: Bumblebee came in an Encore set alongside Swerve, Tailgate, Pipes and Outback. And I've already liked the latter four, a long, long time before MTMTE was even a thing. Swerve and Pipes were my favourites, being tiny colourful things, whereas Outback scares me because of his flimsy hands and Tailgate keeps falling backwards, so both Swerve and Pipes often hung out with modern toys on my desk. But G1 Bumblebee? He was banished into the deep dark place of Prime's trailer. Until I got him out a couple of weeks ago, anyway. And while my big MOVEE BUMBLEBEE schtick may be a big reason why this toy was summarily forgotten, another reason is his retooled cartoon face. Instead of the faceplated thing I associate the G1 Bumblebee toy with, Encore Bumblebee instead placed a flat, lifeless version of his cartoon face on it. Ugh. But other than that, though? Bumblebee is a fun little minicar or whatever you call their size class. It's never going to be my favourite thanks to that ugly noggin, but it's not a horrible thing.

Animated Lockdown: Lockdown is a pretty brilliant offering from Animated that I haven't touched in close to five years. He's such a towering deluxe class toy, easily as tall as (or even taller than) a lot of voyagers... and he doesn't look as skinny as a reed! He's got enough mass in his body and his legs to look like he's a threat, and between the spikes he has on his wheel kibble and his shoulders, his paint-scheme, that massive hook hand and the general slouched pose, Lockdown looks like a pretty badass dude. While there are some bad offerings from the line, Animated certainly doled out some toys that are just pure win, and Lockdown is definitely one of them. Transformation is fun and quick, and his alternate mode is a badass spiky muscle car thing. He's got great articulation... except in one area. His wrists can hinge inwards but not quite outwards, so he's permanently stuck with his hands (or non-hook hand, rather) bent at at least a 45 degree angle from his lower arms. I mean, you can buy two Lockdowns and transplant the hook car kibble so he has two hooks or a hook and a chainsaw or two chainsaws and pretend he's Pharma, but you kind of need those hands. Overall it's a bit of a letdown on what is a brilliant toy.

Skyquake87
2014-07-17, 09:11 AM
I've been having a bit of a clear out, so this is a bit fresh in my mind (got rid of all my Animated and Movie toys over the last six months, plus some CHUG figures I didn't see the point of).

Here's my picks...

Universe Nemesis Prime
This for me is the Nemesis Prime. A huge, evil looking Mamoth I'd probably cack myself I saw charging towards me. Okay, the alt mode is a bit of a brick, but then it busts open into this awesome robot mode framed by those tusks. The colours are great, a mix of black teal, bone white, blood red, bright red and silver.

Universe Constructicons
I love the Build Team, but even they with their colourful, blocky forms are put in the shade by these sexy purple and green recolours.

Armada Cyclonus
Outwardly, there's not much to like about the portly Cyclonus and his dumpy chum Crumplezone. The alt mode is a lazy 'will this do?' jumble of barely concealed robot parts and the robot mode is pretty ugly looking. Crumplezone is a terrible block in both modes, but somehow they are just incredible fun. The plastics are glorious, the moulded detail is off the hook and the colours are just superb. He's a really fun figure to mess about with topped off with a cute trigger -activated rotor.

Micromaster Collection Sixwing Reissue
Micromasters are still the coolest. And whats more cooler than awesome little 'bots that can combine into a slightly bigger robot? Nothing! That's what. Even the gestalt parts get something to do! Hooray!

Beast Wars Cybershark
The sexiest looking Beast Wars figure. Check out that composited alt-mode, mashed up out of 3 different sharks, and then witness the fitness as he cracks out this blinding roobt mode, complete with jagged toothed mouth! Blinding bit of work only slightly upstaged by Sharp Edge from Beast Wars Neo.

I could go on, but we'll be here all day...

Blackjack
2014-07-17, 12:46 PM
Oh my god that Nemesis Prime

I must have it

Cybershark looks cool too, and I always kind of liked how Armada Cyclonus looks, clunky as he is. Not enough to track him down though.

Knightdramon
2014-07-17, 06:07 PM
Great timing---back in Athens so reunited with the rest of my collection.

FE Cliffjumper--sadly I only kept the purple god awful stickered edition, but I'll be hunting at AA for a proper red one again. Just marvelous.

FE Starscream--sadly forgotten after a few years, but a very expressive toy with a neat transformation and a very sleek robot mode.

FE Bulkhead---wow magic. Taking him with me as he's going on a Wreckers shelf with Sandstorm in York. I also messed with my FE Clear Prime, but he's nowhere this good. Equally nice to look at, though.

Alternity Megatron--this one goes for all the nay sayers of Kobayashi [guy who designed MP01 to MP09, MP11 and now MP Magnus]. Very solid figure, madly articulated, very expressive and very, very compact. Both versions I have [blue and black] are flying with me to York, will probably hunt for the silver version as well.

:clap:

Denyer
2014-07-17, 07:43 PM
Hmm... old stuff I've kept, apart from loose battered early Autobots, that aren't on display...

Cybertron Starscream / Vector Prime two-pack
Actually I re-purchased them fairly recently. Despite being a bit large and (in Vector Prime's case) immobile by standards these days, they're both great detailed sculpts with effective colour schemes that'll get displayed at some point.

Pretender Bludgeon (inner robot)
Simple, perfectly proportioned, and whereas I don't particularly care for the original shell (especially at the prices they now fetch) versus a nice, characterful DOTM Bludgeon plus the Blood upgrade kit, I do like a good tank figure.

Treadshot
I have a fondness for generics, be they pretender inner robots or "new character" Actionmasters -- Treadshot has the whole bounty hunter schtick, and the significant paint damage across his visor only adds to that.

Targetmaster Rodimus Prime
Objectively a blocky piece of crap. Had the Ladybird books and had a friend as a kid who had a lot of the movie figures, who in fact traded with me for Firebolt at the time. Got a reissue Hot Rod years later, by which time the Targetmaster partner was long gone which obviously couldn't hold it, so both got moved on. This scratches an itch to have a complete one and scrubs up quite well with Reprolabels... it's basic, and a step back from Diaclone engineering, but makes me smile.

Warcry
2014-07-17, 07:58 PM
Classics/Universe Hound
Never truly felt this one, I have to be honest. He's alright but I never thought he was great, with his short arms and huge feet. He's definitely the best G1 Hound toy around, though.

Universe Nemesis Prime
Always wanted him, but I never saw him in stores and he's stupid expensive now. :(

Armada Cyclonus
My first experience with "main line" toys after I started collecting again! I was never in love with the figure, but it's a fantastic kids' toy and a perfect example of what Hasbro should be marketing to the 5 to around 10 age bracket. Lots of guns and gimmicks, a quick transformation and poseable enough for a kid to have it fight other toys.

Mine is with my sister's kids now, and seemed to be the most popular of the TFs I gave them a year ago.

Beast Wars Cybershark
A treat, this one is. The alt-mode is a brick, but then he's a fish so what do you expect? The robot is great though. Lots of personality, like all the best BW toys, neat weapons and good articulation to boot.

FE Starscream--sadly forgotten after a few years, but a very expressive toy with a neat transformation and a very sleek robot mode.
I could say exactly the same thing about him as you have! He's great but he's got so many other Starscreams to compete with that he's easy to lose track of.

I can't say the same for Bulkhead, who is just as good but not so easily forgotten because it's my only figure of that character. FE Bulkhead's never left my shelves since I bought him.

Skyquake87
2014-07-17, 09:21 PM
God, this thread has me rummaging through my toy box...

Lets have a look at what else I think is AWESOME

Trailbreaker
I always wanted this guy as a nipper. I think just because no one I knew had him, he seemed a bit forgotten and only had a brief appearance in a Ladybird book (that I could recall) to his name. He just seemed that bit more mysterious an interesting than Hoist. Although I have the Encore one which is lovely and shiny and new,its my slightly worn second hand one I got off Ebay. Its just so chunky and bouncy looking and turns into a hilarious blocky wee blob. Lovely

Beast Machines Blackarchnia
After two pretty rum Beast Wars toys (yeah I like her TM2 toy, but its got so much kibble) she turned out a right sexy slip of a thing for Beast Machines. The spider mode is super-creepy, the colours are lovely and she has a fantastic robot mode. Sure the legs are a bit chunky, but she looks the part.

Armada Megatron
Wees all over G2 Megatron from a great height and still the greatest Megatron toy EVER. Oh yes.

Beast Wars Transmetal Rampage
GIANT METAL CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB!!! Run for the hills!All the Transmetal Beast Wars toys are awesome slabs of amazing, but the brutal Rampage I do like. The crab mode is just gorgeous, all covered in sexy copper chrome. Great big purple claws and he turns into a really unconvincing tank. But! It has rubber treads that really work and a rather powerful gattling cannon. Great fun!

RiD Ruination (Target Exclusive Urban Camo Deco)
I love the Combaticons. As the Constructicons proved, a uniform colour palette really brings the gestalts together, and that idea was pinched for these black and white bad boys. They just look awesome, although its a bit unfortunate that Rollbar ends up looking like a Golly.

Warcry
2014-07-18, 02:18 PM
Here's a few more:

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_TerradiveInsecticonOnslaught_Alt_zps21c84346.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/TerradiveInsecticonOnslaught_Alt_zps21c84346.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_TerradiveInsecticonOnslaught_Robot_zps54565f58.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/TerradiveInsecticonOnslaught_Robot_zps54565f58.jpg.html)

2010 Terradive might very well be my favourite Deluxe-class toy ever. He's definitely the best jet-former I own at that price point. His robot mode integrates the entire vehicle mode with no notable kibble left over, and the jet (while not quite as perfectly-integrated) is very slick as well. He's got a unique colour scheme, a beautiful head sculpt and great articulation, and it's a shame that nobody remembers or cares about him because he's an off-screen nobody from a random movie line.

My only complaint about the guy is his weapon. As you can maybe see in the pics, it's broken in half for pretty much no reason.

Definitely a keeper, and people who don't own him really need to track him down!

Beast Wars Insecticon is one of the last toys I bought when I was a kid. He's got ball joints all over like all the early BW basics, a good sculpt and a great beetle alt-mode. Unfortunately the years have not been kind to mine, as his ankles have gotten so loose that he can't stand upright and I need to use his antennae to keep him in beast mode. That's what happens when you play with a toy as much as I did with him, though, I suppose.

On a shelf with more modern toys, though, what really stands out is the lack of paint apps. Although the blue and green contrast each other nicely, he really needs a bit more than that to make him stand out from the crowd. It's truly a shame that this toy was never redecoed, and that it never will be since Hasbro and Takara apparently managed to lose the mold along with most of the other BW Basics.

I really do like him, though, and one day I need to track down a version of him who's not broken-down and loose for display purposes.

And lastly, Universe Onslaught. Damn, is this guy a big bruiser! He also tends to, sadly, be a bit forgotten by a fandom that is inexplicably obsessed with combiners. People's (to me) completely incomprehensible demand for gestalts caused this toy to be met with a somewhat dismissive attitude when it came out, because apparently a combiner team member who doesn't combine is heresy or something? Well screw that, Onslaught is awesome! In his day, toys as big and heavy as he is tended to either be bricks, unposeable due to balance issues, or both. But Onslaught has the articulation and balance of a good Deluxe-class toy. He's also got a great alt-mode and electronic gimmicks that don't manage to ruin the entire toy (he's the only figure in my collection with sound gimmicks whose batteries I haven't taken out). The 2008 Universe line had several strong offerings, but I think Onslaught is the best of the bunch -- better than Cyclonus, better than Hound, better than Sideswipe and better than Sunstreaker.

Cybertron Starscream / Vector Prime two-pack
Actually I re-purchased them fairly recently. Despite being a bit large and (in Vector Prime's case) immobile by standards these days, they're both great detailed sculpts with effective colour schemes that'll get displayed at some point.
Both of these toys seem like they're one or two size classes too big for the complexity of their designs. I think if Hasbro remade them as Generations Deluxes, even without changing much in terms of articulation or transformation, I'd like them a whole lot more.

Vector Prime in particular is a great display figure, though it's a shame how much molded detail he's got that never saw paint. If all of those exposed gears and such had been coloured, he'd be fantastic.

Blackjack
2014-07-18, 02:40 PM
Reissue G1 Skids: Skids is a Reissue toy I bought, I played with a bit and tossed into the display case because who cares about Skids am I right? I mean he's got a couple of issues in the Marvel comics but nothing really that I cared about. Come MTMTE and he's this character with an overpowered mutant power, who everyone likes and can do everything. Yet somehow I've warmed up to him somewhat. Though probably digging his toy out a couple while back might be the impetus for that. Skids is a pretty good toy! He's a fun little dude that turns from robot to car very quickly, and has a shit-ton of guns for a G1 toy.

Beast Wars Sea Clamp: Sea Clamp! He turns from a lobster to a robot to a pair of legs. Ever since I tracked down him and Cicadacon, they have been combined with my Japanese Ram Horn Motorarm into Tripredacus for a while now. But Sea Clamp in his own is pretty awesome though! The sculpting really makes him look like a lobster, and in robot mode he's just got these really wide shoulders and these long, massive pincer-hands that look like they're going to beat the shit out of you. And inside the pincers are these little flip-out jagged shivs, because Sea Clamp is hardcore. I do like him a lot. His face's got personality, he looks a lot like a brawler... shame his lobster tail piece kind of gets in the way of his feet.

Beast Wars Cicadacon: Cicadacon kind of blows Sea Clamp out of the water, though. It's not that Sea Clamp is bad, it's that Cicadacon is good. I look at a sub-par modern toy like the Age of Extinction Dinobots or Generations Blitzwing, and I pull out a ten-year-old toy like Cicadacon, who, in addition from transforming into one of the most beautiful robot modes ever, can also combine into a gestalt that has articulation? FOC Bruticus has ten years on Cicadacon, and none of his component parts are any good. Cicadacon and Sea Clamp, though. His bug mode is excellent, his robot mode has a range of posability that puts the similarly-shaped Generations Waspinator to shame. He's just so awesome. The wings are all individually ball-jointed, he comes with a pair of swords... Cicadacon is a toy you need to own.

Motorarm sucks, though.

Movie Bonecrusher: Bonecrusher is awesome. Don't let anyone tell you different. I mean, sure, he's got super long arms, and his upper limbs is a mass of boxy kibble, and his crotch pieces kind of like to come loose, but he's awesome. He transforms from this monstrous military minesweeeper thing into this massive rollerblading robot with super-long arms and a massive venus flytrap scorpion tail thing. It's a mould that has got a shit-ton of personality and certainly stands up well to a lot of modern toys.

Never truly felt this one, I have to be honest. He's alright but I never thought he was great, with his short arms and huge feet. He's definitely the best G1 Hound toy around, though.


Hound's certainly not as good as Cyclonus and Onslaught -- two of the greatest toys to ever come out of Hasbro -- but he's certainly on par with the likes of Sideswipe and Bluestreak and most of the moulds that came out around then. I think it's just because he is Hound and visually not as interesting as many of the other toys to come after him.

Thunderwave
2014-07-18, 09:15 PM
I excluded more recent purchases even if they'll end up on future favorites lists, like Vector Prime. That said, here are a few I still enjoy:

GDO Brawl: I was pretty "meh" about Breacher. The mold works so much better in brown and green. The kibble on him is manageable and works as extra armor.

GDO Hot Spot: I have a weakness for the Protectobots and even though this mold isn't a combiner I do enjoy it. The shade of blue is just lovely and the "I'm not taking any of your poop, Blades" headsculpt is perfect.

HFTD Lockdown: Tall, gangly, and looking like he pieced himself together from what he could take off his captures/kills.




2010 Terradive might very well be my favourite Deluxe-class toy ever. He's definitely the best jet-former I own at that price point. His robot mode integrates the entire vehicle mode with no notable kibble left over, and the jet (while not quite as perfectly-integrated) is very slick as well. He's got a unique colour scheme, a beautiful head sculpt and great articulation, and it's a shame that nobody remembers or cares about him because he's an off-screen nobody from a random movie line.

My only complaint about the guy is his weapon. As you can maybe see in the pics, it's broken in half for pretty much no reason.

Definitely a keeper, and people who don't own him really need to track him down!


I love Terradive. I own two copies of that mold. He was surprisingly poseable and he's a fun toy. Felt more like an action figure then a Transformer in robot mode.

ganon578
2014-07-19, 03:13 PM
Admittedly, my collection isn't very deep, but here's a few that aren't 10's but I really enjoy them for various reasons:

Movie 2007 Breakaway:
I got this one as a surprise gift, so it's really dear to me. My wife is very conservative with money, but she picked this one up for me on a random shopping trip. He's not the most articulate or complex figure, but I missed out totally on the Unicron Trilogy. I like his chunkiness and sturdiness, and the simplicity of the transformation is something that I think has been missing in some TF lines as of late.

Movie 2007 Fracture:
An awesome mold, in my opinion. Fracture is super articulate and poseable, and a sweet Gobot homage with a great color scheme. Plus, Fracture is the only female bot I have in my collection until Arcee & Chromia come out in the Generations line later this year.

Universe Heavy Load:
In my noob days of getting back into collecting, I didn't even realize this guy was Mixmaster when I picked him up. On a random shopping trip to Toys R Us when I lived halfway across the country from where I am now, I bought him specifically because he's noted as a chemist - and so am I. Just like with Getaway above, I like the chunkiness of this guy, and the Cyber key gimmick doesn't bother me all that much. Plus he came with a mini-con, which would turn out to be my first ever. Fantastically, he also turned out to be the only Constructicon not included in the Classics Devastator I own, so he filled a gap there too.

Warcry
2014-07-19, 07:59 PM
Three more!

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_StarscreamWheeljackOptimus_robot_zps98839698.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/StarscreamWheeljackOptimus_robot_zps98839698.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_StarscreamWheeljackOptimus_alt_zps0bf80532.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/StarscreamWheeljackOptimus_alt_zps0bf80532.jpg.html)

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_ArmadaOptimus_zps6c74f384.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/ArmadaOptimus_zps6c74f384.jpg.html)

Deluxe Armada Optimus Prime: I remember the hype that this toy got when it was new, and it's no surprise why. It's easily the best-articulated Armada toy, and much better-looking than the bigger, heavily-gimmicked Optimus toy. But by modern standards, he's not as impressive as he used to be. He's got articulation, but the joints don't have the same range of motion that a good modern toy will. His Minicon is also pretty awful, though.

Optimus looks insanely tiny alongside pretty much any other Armada toy, though a part of that is that every other Armada Deluxe was about 25% bigger than that size class was in any other line, which I'll discuss a bit more when we get to Wheeljack. He doesn't look as bad compared to modern figures, though he seems to have started a trend where Deluxe Optimus figures are consistently tinier than every other Deluxe in a line (culminating in RTS Laser Prime, whose sword this Prime appears to have stolen).

All in all I'd say that he's pretty cool, but he's definitely dated. I love the Armada Optimus character design, though, and this is definitely the best rendition of it in toy form.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_ArmadaWheeljack_zpsc331a243.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/ArmadaWheeljack_zpsc331a243.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_RhonoxWheeljackSideswipe_zps03d5c7fb.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/RhonoxWheeljackSideswipe_zps03d5c7fb.jpg.html)

Armada Wheeljack: Yeah, Wheeljack's big. As you can see above, he's almost exactly the same size as a Masterpiece car or Generations Rhinox, who is a smallish Voyager. But in the Armada days, he was an averageish Deluxe! His large size and simple design makes him seem really oversized, but he's got more articulation and more complex sculpting than your average Armada toy. He's got a great design, but he's just not suited as a display figure unless you've got a lot of other Armada toys to put up there with him. I'd love to see him get a Generations update one of these days, though.

He's also got a cool Minicon partner in Wind Sheer (or is it Windrazor?). A lot of Armada toys came with partners who could have gone with anyone, but these two look like a team and the cohesiveness is nice.

My guess is that one day I'm going to give this one to my (hypothetical) children.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_EnergonStarscream_zps34180bad.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/EnergonStarscream_zps34180bad.jpg.html)

Energon Starscream: Like FE Starscream, I tend to forget this guy because I own way too many Starscream toys. But you know what? He's pretty cool! His shoulder articulation is a bit awkward and his giant Energon weapons (not pictured -- I don't know where they are) look stupid, but all in all I think this is my favourite G1-styled Starscream toy. He's better-looking than the awkward Masterpiece and has much better articulation than the Classics F-15.

At the time I regretted not getting the more G1-coloured version of the toy, but looking more closely at it now, it neither looks good nor all that G1. I wouldn't be at all opposed to seeing the figure done up in a more accurate Starscream colour scheme, though, or even as Thundercracker and Skywarp.

(Things like that are why I miss the old Universe line so much.)

Reissue G1 Skids
Skids is one of my favourite G1 cars! He's not flashy like Jazz or Sideswipe or Prowl, but I love the way his tall, lanky robot mode explodes out from such a tiny compact vehicle. He's probably the best-engineered of the bunch.

I love Terradive. I own two copies of that mold. He was surprisingly poseable and he's a fun toy. Felt more like an action figure then a Transformer in robot mode.
You, good sir, are a man of refined tastes!

Movie 2007 Breakaway
I like this one too! The Cybertron Hot Shot mold is all kinds of fun. I just wish it wasn't so huge compared to other Deluxes, because it looks way too big alongside Classics or Movie cars.

Movie 2007 Fracture
Always wanted this one, but I don't think I ever saw her in stores. I never liked this mold as Mirage, because Mirage is supposed to be stocky and short, but as a random female character I think it works great.

Denyer
2014-07-19, 08:47 PM
Always wanted this one, but I don't think I ever saw her in stores.
Remind me what your address is.

Blackjack
2014-07-19, 09:37 PM
Ooo, was about to write a piece about BreakGetaway too, who I took out of the shelves thanks to rereading MTMTE. The Cybertron Hot Shot mold, is one of the better ones engineered from the Cybertron line, and so is the other Hot Shot to come from that line:

Universe Roadbuster: Roadbuster comes from the second Hot Shot mould, and in my opinion the Roadbuster colours really suit the military vehicle a lot better than Hot Shot's colourful blue, yellow and red. The mould is simply filled with missile racks, and it suits Roadbuster's personality (i.e. the due with a shit-ton of guns) very well. He's got missile pods everywhere, and his Cyber Key gimmick is localized in the small turret thing, which is cool. He's blocky, yeah, but then so's Roadbuster. And he comes with this wrist-sword that detaches as a dagger! And they painted him so that from a distance he does look like a dude with a visor and a faceplate. Roadbuster is one of those random repaints that work really, really well -- it has a sense of identity that sets it apart from a slavish remake like Generations Roadbuster, but at the same time it's a good homage that makes it a distinct entity from the original Hot Shot toy.

Universe Ratbat: Repainted off Cybertron Sideways, Ratbat is a gorgeous looking robot. Having read the Marvel comics first, when Ratbat shows up as a humanoid robot in both the Dreamwave and IDW comics, I did a double take. Dreamwave sorta did it better by making his face not as humanoid as possible, but still, he's Ratbat! But Universe picks the perfect mold that made me change my opinion. Sideways isn't especially batty, but between his cool-looking swords, the faceless face, the crossbow weapon and all the angles from head to toe, Universe Ratbat is a pretty distinctive looking thing that I have grown really fond of over the years.

Movie Wreckage: A very low-note toy from a rejected Decepticon design from the 2007 movie, I didn't get Wreckage until around a year after he's gone off the shelves, and I ended up really liking him! He's a more solid and less kibbly toy than Brawl and Barricade from the same line, and while he's not quite perfect, a combination of his snowy-white alternate mode, the blood-red robot limbs he grows when he transforms, the skull-like face and the (admittedly rather disappointing now, but freaking awesome when I was a kid) flip-out swords Wreckage just exudes the appearance of a professional assassin-type thing. I really like this dude. He's not as spectacular as my memory had him, but I still like him a fair bit.

Fracture is one I didn't get as well, and in retrospect I really kicked myself for it. I bought her wavemates Breakaway and Crankcase, but I already have a Classics Mirage so I thought 'who collects two of the same mould'? Oh, young and foolish me.

Heavy Load is an old one I have in a box somewhere. He's cool, but for whatever reason I haven't took him out in years. I'll go rescue him from his imprisonment in a moment.

Heinrad
2014-07-20, 01:01 AM
What? There's hardly any RiD love here. Have to add some.

RiD Scourge/Black Convoy: Out of all of the RiD figures I had, the only one I've kept is Black Convoy. I can't call him Scourge. He's a good, solid figure.

G1 Bludgeon: Yes, he's a largely immobile chunk of plastic encasing a small, very cool looking robot, but the shell looks so cool.

N.E.S.T. Global Alliance Bludgeon: With the Blood upgrade kit, of course. A great updating of Bludgeon.

Warcry
2014-07-20, 05:48 AM
Remind me what your address is.
Done. :up:

Universe Roadbuster
Always been intrigued by him. I wanted one for a good long while, but now he's too short to fit in with Springer, Roadbuster and Whirl. I do think that he's a nicer-looking toy than the upcoming Voyager though, especially with the third-party head that some people have equipped him with.

Universe Ratbat
This one's a gem! Mine isn't out on display now, but he's a great figure and he really should be.

Movie Wreckage
Wreckage is interesting. In retrospect he strikes me as the forebearer of the "sort of movie, sort of not" toys that filled out later lines in greater numbers -- guys like Terradive, Tomahawk, Breacher, Seaspray, Lockdown, etc. who fit in well enough with Classics, Movie or Prime figures.

What? There's hardly any RiD love here. Have to add some.
I'd be talking up RiD Prowl, but one of the doors broke off of mine so he's in no shape for pics. Side Burn and X-Brawn wouldn't get very positive reviews from me I'm guessing, and Gigatron is too new to me to belong here (and he's never left my display shelves since I got him, because of Flec and the RPG).

N.E.S.T. Global Alliance Bludgeon: With the Blood upgrade kit, of course. A great updating of Bludgeon.
I agree here, though I actually do prefer the stock head on the toy. It creates the impression of a skull without actually being one, and I think it fits better with the toy's overall moviefied, alien look.

And since you combined RiD and Bludgeons in one post, I think that means I'm going to have to pull out RiD Bludgeon for a later set of pics (though not the next few as they've already been photographed).

Next up:

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_Ransack_Sideswipe_alt_zpsc575aabe.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/Ransack_Sideswipe_alt_zpsc575aabe.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_RansackSideswipe_robot_zps89ddca38.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/RansackSideswipe_robot_zps89ddca38.jpg.html)

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_ROTF_Ransack_zps09f20a43.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/ROTF_Ransack_zps09f20a43.jpg.html)

ROTF Ransack: I don't think I ever quite got on the hype train for this guy the way others did. I love that a TF biplane even exists, and I get that his whole gimmick (dating back to when he was in the draft scripts) was that he was a rickety old piece of crap...but that's just not a great selling point for a toy. His legs are a mess, and his arms are spindly and sort of awkward to pose. His plane mode is cool, but I think I like the idea of a biplane robot a lot more than the reality.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_DOTM_Sideswipe_zps75b2e162.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/DOTM_Sideswipe_zps75b2e162.jpg.html)

DOTM Sideswipe is actually kinda cool! I like him more than either of the ROTF molds, and he's a dynamic figure with lots of personality...in robot mode. In car mode he's just a mess. A convertible with no floor? Body panels that don't lock together? A Corvette that's flat grey because Hasbro can't afford paint apps or metallic flake in the plastic? That last one is easy to fix with a bit of paint, but the other issues with the car mode leave me feeling like it's not worth it. The sloppy finish really weighs him down, and I don't think I'll be missing much if I never transform him into car mode again.

Clay
2014-07-20, 03:26 PM
I like this thread.

Energon Sharkticon

I've loved him since I found him in 2004. He has more paint on him than any other mass-market deluxe that I can think of. I also vaguely remember someone making the big missile launchers on his back detachable, but I've never found that thread again. :(

Universe Nemesis Prime


I still have this one, and still like it. I remember paying roughly $30 on ebay for it around the time of release because the only Target near me didn't stock it.

Treadshot
I have a fondness for generics, be they pretender inner robots or "new character" Actionmasters -- Treadshot has the whole bounty hunter schtick, and the significant paint damage across his visor only adds to that.

Treadshot is one of a few survivors from my childhood... he's managed to hang around unbroken and complete for almost 25 years now.

2010 Terradive might very well be my favourite Deluxe-class toy ever.

Yep! It's weird to think of 2009/2010 as something like "the good ole days", but the amount of top notch stuff delivered then hasn't been matched since. Terradive is among the best of that crop, too. And I liked the trident... he had an aerial mode, a ground-based name, and a marine weapon. He's a triple threat!

Clay
2014-07-20, 04:20 PM
My turn!

Takara Tigatron: I'll always love the Beast Wars cat mold, but I think the Takara version of Tigatron is my favorite. The mold always came off as a bit too bulky for Cheetor to me, but it fits Tigatron nicely. The Takara version was different in that it was a nice, crisp white instead of the creamy version Hasbro offered.

In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing what a new mold could do in the Generations line, but the 2008 Cheetor mold was terrible, and I'd rather not see another version of that or another failed attempt like it was.

Razorbeast: Probably my favorite of the animal spring-loaded toys. He actually has some minimal articulation as an animal, even if he can only lay on his belly. The robot mode, while basically unpainted, has so much sculpted detail that it overrides the lack of color and gives a lot of character. Fun little fellow!

Street Speed Minicon team: These little guys, along with Unicron, were my first robot purchase in a store as an adult collector. I picked that set because I liked the look of them most out the minicons available at the time. I now understand it to be the contrast in the different iterations of "car to robot" within a single set: the cars are all the same basic shape, yet they turn into robots in different ways. They're also very detailed and reasonably articulate for figures so small, and that they came together in a pack for $7 shows how wide the gap has gotten in price versus size.

Skyquake87
2014-07-20, 04:27 PM
Big thumbs up from me for Fracture (I also have her, but one leg is a slightly different shade or red to the other, for some reason :( ). I used to have Breakaway too, but I didn't like the rather flat colourscheme and papery feeling paint next to the sparkly goodness of Cybertron Hot Shot.

Armada Wheeljack is always one of those cool Armada toys I forget about. I may have to see about tracking one of those down one day...perhaps at AA, if I'm lucky.

Do like RiD Black Convoy as well - Love it so much it put the G2 Laser Prime in the shade that ended up selling him as he just looked kind of goofy next to BC.

Just having a look at what else I like, and I'm surprised how many are, er, Universe repaints...!

Universe Ratchet
A bit spoiled by the penny pinching on the mould - he really could use a proper light bar rather than a crappy tampograph - but still rocks a killer mix of black, white, red and chrome!

Universe Soundwave & Spacecase
Just look at those colours! The Stalker mould is vastly improved by Soundwave's radioactive colours and I love the big radioactive Smartie thats stuck on him. The G2 Cyberjets were funky little chaps and Spacecase has a massive upgrade here with some rather more sturdy plastics and a nicer set of colours. Bit of a shame that Hasbro didn't have one of the Predator jet moulds available as it would have been great to get some proper use out of Soundwave's Mega-Visor gimmick. Especially as they could have kept the Rotorstorm slide in place as that mould also ended up repurposed for Universe ... as Whirl.

Universe Reptilion
A figure I picked up whilst sourcing a Frostbite (I love Frostbite) off the back of reading Warcry's review or a thread or something. I love the mad nuclear colours. They work less well in robot mode, but its still looks crackers. Bit of a shame the frill is prone to popping off - at least one my example - which isn't a problem I've had with mould mate Iguanus.

New Constructicons
Now the only remnants of my European Transformers collection. They can't combine and were clearly just cheap filler to pad out the ranks but I like them just as much (if not slightly more) as my beloved G1 Constructicons.

Skyquake87
2014-07-20, 04:34 PM
Yay for Tigatron! He never showed up in the UK (along with the original Blackarachnia, Grimlock and Wolfang plus a few others from the TM2 assortments). Razorbeast is excellent. I like that he has a similar sillouette to Cybershark. The detailing on him is amazing too.

Warcry
2014-07-21, 01:47 AM
I've loved him since I found him in 2004. He has more paint on him than any other mass-market deluxe that I can think of.
I'll see your Sharkticon and raise you...

Universe Reptilion
Your move. ;)

In general, it's amazing how much more paint figures had a decade ago than they do now. The Universe line especially, but also Energon and stuff like Alternators.

I still have this one, and still like it. I remember paying roughly $30 on ebay for it around the time of release because the only Target near me didn't stock it.
You say that like it's a lot, but Nemesis Prime goes for $100 or so these days. :(

Yep! It's weird to think of 2009/2010 as something like "the good ole days", but the amount of top notch stuff delivered then hasn't been matched since. Terradive is among the best of that crop, too. And I liked the trident... he had an aerial mode, a ground-based name, and a marine weapon. He's a triple threat!
In retrospect, those were some of the best days of the brand. Toys like Terradive, Straxus, Battle Blades Prime, etc! Deluxes for only $10, often even in Canada! Boundless enthusiasm for where the line was going! It's sad to think things have turned around so soon. :(

Takara Tigatron
The white Tigatron is one of the prettiest Beast Wars toys ever. Hasbro's ugly cream version? Blah.

Universe Ratchet
I don't think I've ever seen those tampographs before. Oh, Hasbro. :lol:

Universe Soundwave & Spacecase
Don't have those two, but I do have Universe Air Raid and Wind Sheer and I love them! I'll have to take pics of them later on if nobody beats me to it.

Some more:
http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_SoundwaveAstrotrainFireflight_alt_zpsf0387e8b.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/SoundwaveAstrotrainFireflight_alt_zpsf0387e8b.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_SoundwaveAstrotrainFireflight_zps82f1a24e.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/SoundwaveAstrotrainFireflight_zps82f1a24e.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_SoundwaveAstrotrainFireflight_robot_zpsadb4ccc1.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/SoundwaveAstrotrainFireflight_robot_zpsadb4ccc1.jpg.html)

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_UniverseFireflight_zpscb2a0ab0.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/UniverseFireflight_zpscb2a0ab0.jpg.html)

Universe Fireflight is, uh, unique? He's based on an old Beast Machines Vehicon, painted up like the G1 character, and uh, yeah. That's all I've got. I really liked him when I got him, I think, but he doesn't make much of an impression on me now. The weird arms are a real turn-off.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_ClassicsAstrotrain_zpsc6d4fb38.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/ClassicsAstrotrain_zpsc6d4fb38.jpg.html)

Classics Astrotrain! I was so damned excited when I got this toy in 2006, because he was the first Classics toy that I saw in person. He was a triplechanger, and he was a G1 character, and exactly the sort of thing that fans had been dreaming of for years. And he was...okayish? His legs are badly designed and his arms don't have the best articulation, but he's a million times better than Octankor or Blitzwing, and easily the second-best Triplechanger mold Hasbro's ever made after Springer/Sandstorm. The toy certainly shows its age, as most of the Classics toys do these days, but it's a good-looking representation of the character for display, if nothing else. I also have a lot of fun switching him from one mode to the other. The quick transformations are enjoyable, and make it easier to overlook the obvious flaws in both the shuttle and train modes.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_PrimeSoundwave_zps1691c4fa.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/PrimeSoundwave_zps1691c4fa.jpg.html)

Prime Soundwave is a gem! The design shouldn't even be physically possible. And even assuming it got made, by all rights it should be a floppy, fragile, ugly mess. Only it's not. It's beautiful, elegantly simple and very show-accurate. The RiD-series Prime toys were very, very hit-or-miss compared to the cool FE ones, but Soundwave is one of the best from either line. His plane mode is believable, his robot mode is lithe and poseable, and his little minion Laserbeak is well-integrated into the overall design. Great toys like this only make me sadder we never got quality figures for half of the main cast.

Notabot
2014-07-21, 02:24 AM
I have to throw Energon Mirage out there. I really like the color scheme, he's got a cool transformation, and just looks awesome in both modes. Yes, he's a shellformer for his hull, but I actually like the way they dealt with it, kind of a cloak or pseudo-wings. Transformers needs more boats.

Blackjack
2014-07-21, 07:24 AM
I do have both Prime Soundwave and Universe Space Case and both of them are pretty awesome!

I just dug G1 Terradive out of the display. I've never really mucked around with him properly, but he's a pretty cool little toy.

Skyquake87
2014-07-21, 08:38 AM
Universe Fireflight really does look odd. The Beast Machines figure looks better with its darker colours, but having the whole front of the aircraft as an arm is just...silly.

I miss having lots of paint on Transformers. They just look so much nicer with all the cool detailing picked out. I think thats why the toys from the turn of the century are among my favourites. They just look spot on.

Prime was a frustrating line. You had some real gems in there like Wheeljack, Vehicon, Soundwave, Bulkhead and Starscream and then absolute stinkers like Airachnid and Bumblebee. The engineering was generally of a very impressive standard (except on the Predacons. Ugh). Just a shame paint applications were at a premium. Poor Ratchet looks so bland. Horrible weapon accessories for nearly all of them too.

Energon Mirage! One of those toys I only ever saw in catalogue shots. He never made it to the UK (there was that uncomfortable gap in Energon which saw a lot of stuff just skipped altogether over here), so I am glad to hear he is as awesome as he looked :)

Denyer
2014-07-21, 06:24 PM
Prime Soundwave looks like he's got a spiffing vaudeville cane in that thumbnail.

He's not on display at the moment (I should do something about that) but Henkei Astrotrain is a favourite.

zigzagger
2014-07-21, 07:19 PM
Never really collected much of the other lines, save some Classics (et al) and the odd Beast Wars figures. None of which are near me, let alone the same State.

Did fiddle around with them during the holidays though, so here's a few.

Classics Cliffjumper: An odd one, I'll admit. As it has been said a few hundred times throughout the internet, the Classic Bumblebee mold is brilliant in its simplicity. It's a fun little design with an intuitive transformation, and a cute alt mode that matches the cute robot form. It's held up well over the years. But for me, I thought it looked striking in red. I dunno, I just prefer it over the yellow deco. A lot of people, I recall, didn't care much for it (mostly because of the silver... errr, splatters? pealing paint? 90's style X-TREME paintjob?), but the red, grey and black in Cliffy's bot mode, it just sings to me.

Classics Mirage: Like the 'Bee mold, a lot of praise has been heaped on this guy. He's the ballerina of the Classics et al line(s), I've heard bandied about. He's fun to fiddle around with, and that transformation... how can I describe it? It's smooth, I guess, just the way everything folds, and flips and extends. Love the aesthetic of the robot mode, too. It conveys a sort of speedster look; it's lithe and kind of elegant.

Universe Hound: It's Universe, right? Again, another popular one. Not much else I can say about Hound that hasn't been said before. He, uh, looks great...? Fun and intuitive transformation, like with Cliffjumper and Mirage but a touch more complex, with some clever engineering tossed in here and there (love the way the legs fold out, how the alt mode's seats become the outer thighs). Hound is a fine example of taking the 1984 aesthetic and updating it, maintaining a sense of continuity between Hound's classic and modern look.

And as a bonus, he comes packed with Ravage, which he really didn't have to.

Now, why the **** haven't we seen this mold reused more often? I keep saying it, but retool the guy into Ironfist, already! It's a near perfect fit.

Denyer
2014-07-21, 07:32 PM
Kind of hoping for MP Mirage and Hound... find the Classics ones a bit too exaggerated or toony, respectively.

zigzagger
2014-07-21, 09:02 PM
Licensing aside, neither would be too terribly difficult for designers to work out, considering Universe Hound proves it can be done without hindering either modes.

Skyquake87
2014-07-21, 10:15 PM
Prime Knock Out
This mould is slightly unloved by fandom, but I think its pretty darn good. The vehicle mode is ace, this great boxy little muscle car I can instantly picture bombing along the road. The robot mode comes in for a lot of flak for not being like the CGI model and for suffering the same problem as FoC Swindle (i.e. he's a load of sticks with a poncho) , but he carries it off much much better. Love it.

Beast Machines Scavenger
Another slightly unloved mould, no doubt due to its ubiquity and just being plain weird. I like him 'cos he reminds me of the Scutters from Red Dwarf. His plastics are just lush too.

Binaltech Asterisk Alert
This toy got a lot of stick simply because he wasn't Prowl, but I don't care! Its nice to see Red Alert getting some love. Some QC issues slightly hobble the figure, unfortunately. As you can see, his shoulders are a bit loose and prone to slumping down. The breadbasket doesn't clip into the waist properly either.

Generation 2 Optimus Prime
Sexy black trailer. That is all.

TFC Resissue Perceptor
Perceptor was a figure that never made it to the UK and I never knew how empty my life was without him. I love the device-formers from the original line and its a shame that this sort of infiltration aspect of Transformers has been lost over the years (not helped, it has to be said, by the slightly feeble Real Gear robots and bloody Ejector). I also have E-Hobby Magnificus whom I also like, but its Perceptor's cheery colours that win me over. Brilliant.

Heinrad
2014-07-22, 01:27 AM
Good grief. Most of the stuff we're talking about here isn't all that old, is it. Need to add in some more old stuff, quick!

Beast Wars Metals Ravage: Ravage was always one of my favorites back in G1, and I was thrilled when I watched The Agenda. Ravage was back! WooHoo! What do you mean Hasbro isn't making him?!? As you can guess, this kind of bummed me out. The closest we got to Ravage was a recolor of the TM2 Cheetor. I'd already gotten the TM2 Cheetor for reasons I've never been able to figure out(I'm thinking I hit my head), and I wasn't about to get another version of that mold. Fortunately, at that point I had found eBay, and was able to get the Japanese version, which was a recolored and modified TM Cheetor. And he still looks sweet, if a little dusty.

BotCon 2005 Ironhide: Admittedly, I'm biased when it comes to Ironhide, but this mold was originally the Energon figure Tow Line figure, and it was a good one. He's also the only figure who can powerlinx with himself.

Human Alliance Bumblebee: A great representation of Movie 'Bee, and well designed. Although poor Sam has that wonderful dull surprise look.

Human Alliance Barricade: This, though, was the HA figure I wanted. Well, that and Human Alliance Ironhide, but they never made him, sadly. But a good, transformable, looks like the guy in the movie Barricade was what I wanted, and this figure filled that particular want. And the Frenzy figure is just nuts.

DOTM Leader Class Ironhide: They finally give us the Ironhide figure we've wanted since the '07 movie. He's not perfect(arm cannons are a bit undersized, and would it have killed them to get his VA to give the 2 phrases they programmed into him?), but he's still a beautiful rendition of movie Ironhide?

HFTD Ironhide: This was my favorite version of the movie Ironhide mold until the Leader class came out. Yes, he's only a deluxe, but he's great!

Thunderwave
2014-07-22, 01:53 AM
Some others!

Armada Powerlinx Optimus Prime/Jetfire/Overload: I'm a sucker for combiners and these big, chunky guys make for an impressively sized robot. Plus I have a soft spot for the super cargo train they make in vehicle mode.

Classics Skywarp:I'll list this one version of the Seeker mold over the others because, bluntly, I like it's colors the best.

Energon Battle Ravage: For a basic toy I like him a lot. He's almost never in robot mode as his cat mode is plenty good enough for me.

Energon Snow Cat: A transformer that turns into one of my favorite G.I. Joe vehicles ever? Yes please!

Blackjack
2014-07-22, 02:22 AM
For something a little more obscure, here's (http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?p=741218) a bunch of Arms Microns which I posted a review of, like a minute ago. I've never touched these guys for the better part of a year. The Bumblebee Micron does find itself a new niche replacing my G1 Crosshairs' missing Targetmaster, but they're otherwise invariably messy and horrible and stickery and lumpy and disappointments all around.

A pair of toys I just got out from display are Prime Bulkhead and the Takara-exclusive Prime Breakdown. Both are wonderful, wonderful Voyager-class toys that look great, is show accurate and generally great all around. Simply perfection. Breakdown is the weaker of the two thanks to his rather static lower arms and having freakin' stickers (though to his credit, Breakdown's stickers hasn't peeled off the way the far newer Arms Microns have). I don't like needlessly praising Takara, since I'm still sore over the idiocy that is the Arms Microns, but Breakdown? Breakdown's awesome and I got him for what amounts to retail price. Ain't nothing better than that.

Another toy I just mucked around is... PCC Chainclaw, I think? I think he's called Chainclaw. The three Power Core Combiners Minicons I own are called Caliburst, Backwind and Chainclaw, but for the love of me I can't remember which is which. This one is the blue one that comes with Icepick (who himself is an awesome thing I'll talk about later), and he transforms from a rather convincing robot into a missile pod thing and into what's basically a Powermaster engine. The missile pod is one of the cooler Targetmaster weapons I've owned, and he's probably one of the few clear plastic transformer toys I actually like.

Classics Astrotrain

Astrotrain's kind of weak around now, and considering the mess that Octane and Blitzwing turned out to be, he's the best Decepticon triple-changer out there. I've had an inordinate fondness of Astrotrain ever since I got him, though. Mine is the Henkei version and as such in my opinion has a superior paintscheme than the predominantly white Hasbro release, and while it's shown its age compared to many newer Classics toys I still am really fond of my space choo-choo.

Energon Mirage

Mirage is one of the toys that I've always desired. The Energon toyline might have turned out a bunch of lumpy monstrosities for the Autobots, but they did the Decepticons well and I've always thought that Mirage and Sharkticon are two of the more awesome ones. We need more boat Decepticons dammit!

He's also redecoed as Banzaitron in one of the Botcons, I think, which I thought was cool.

Classics Cliffjumper

Cliffjumper is another one I dug out from the back of the shelves. He's an awesome little toy! I'm not as big a fan of this mould as some of the other redesigns I own, but it's not terrible. The red Bumblebee head always bugged me, but other than that he's a fun little toy. I'm not quite sure just what the jetski accessory is supposed to be in robot mode, though.

Classics Mirage:

I've personally always loved the Mirage mould! He's another one that I own from the Henkei toyline, and the only one whose chrome is still perfect. Mirage is basically perfect, so much that he has supplanted the ugly blocky mess of a character model. Every single time Mirage shows up in fiction in his original G1 body I do a double-take, since Mirage isn't supposed to be blocky like that, he's supposed to be lithe and sleek and awesome.

Now, why the **** haven't we seen this mold reused more often? I keep saying it, but retool the guy into Ironfist, already! It's a near perfect fit.

I've never actually considered Ironfist for a Hound redeco, but you're absolutely right! Certainly a better fit than the random Swindle that the Club uses for him, and Hound's robot mode can be easily altered to look different -- the position of his wheels, removing the silver bar on the chest... Hound works as Ironfist on so many levels.

Redeco Ravage as Howlback or Glitter or something else and it's bought on sight.

Prime Knock Out

I personally didn't hate Knock Out either. He's never going to be remembered for being a ZOMG AWESOME TOY, and the Prime toyline has been famous for realizing stuff that should on paper be impossible -- Soundwave, FE Starscream and FE Bulkhead in particular. Sure, he could stand to be more show-accurate and have more yellow here and there, but Knock Out is not the worst toy I've ever seen and certainly not one I hate.

Beast Machines Scavenger

Now let me be honest here and say I would totally buy BM Scavenger, that wacky thing that he is. I've always thought BM fails on all levels for the Maximal toys, but the Vehicons all look awesome or awesomely weird, including Scavenger.

Beast Wars Metals Ravage

You lucky SOB! Metals Ravage is one of the crazily awesome things that come out of Takara and is just perfect. I would love to track him down someday.

I don't particularly hate TM2 Ravage because Don Figueroa made him cool in the IDW comics I read at a younger age, but it certainly can't hold a candle to Metals Ravage.

HFTD Ironhide: This was my favorite version of the movie Ironhide mold until the Leader class came out. Yes, he's only a deluxe, but he's great!

I've always thought he needed bigger cannons and more paint applications on his legs, but HFTD Ironhide is one of my all-time favourite deluxes. The HFTD movie moulds are awesome, aren't they? Seven years of movie toylines, and the undisputed stars that stand in the middle of my collection are HFTD Ironhide, Battle Blades Bumblebee and Battle Blades Optimus Prime. I don't think any other toy in my Movie collection comes even close to the sheer quality this trio possesses.

Classics Skywarp

I own the Classics Seeker mold in Starscream, Thundercracker, Thrust, Dirge and Acid Storm flavours. I really, really want a Skywarp, though!

Warcry
2014-07-22, 04:08 AM
I miss having lots of paint on Transformers. They just look so much nicer with all the cool detailing picked out. I think thats why the toys from the turn of the century are among my favourites. They just look spot on.
I think toys can work without much paint, but they need to be designed that way. I mean, Generations Springer isn't exactly heavy on the paint, but they mix and match the different plastic colours a lot and that creates a lot of contrast. It's only when toys are molded all (or mostly) in one or two colours that the lack of paint really jumps out at me (case in point, the new Leader Jetfire -- if the toy is 100% white, you can't skimp on the paint apps!).

Prime Soundwave looks like he's got a spiffing vaudeville cane in that thumbnail.
:lol:

Now I need to find him a real cane...

Kind of hoping for MP Mirage and Hound... find the Classics ones a bit too exaggerated or toony, respectively.
I don't think a hypothetical MP Hound is going to be any less cartoony than the Universe toy, at least not with the current design team. An MP Mirage would be nice, though.

Beast Machines Scavenger
:nonono:

Generation 2 Optimus Prime
Sexy black trailer. That is all.
Yes. To the point where every single Optimus Prime picture, toy or screenshot that features the original trailer looks fundamentally wrong to me. I need to track down a new cab for mine one day, though, because mine has been...well-loved, lets say.

Also, "I AM OPTIMUS PRIME! *engine noises and laser sounds*" never gets old.

Classics Skywarp
The one Classics Seeker I don't own a version of!

I think Universe Starscream is my favourite, personally, though Skywarp is definitely pretty.

Energon Battle Ravage
Me, I'm a fan of both of his modes! It's a shame he was never done up in traditional Ravage colours, though (the Attacktix doesn't count!)

Beast Wars Metals Ravage
I hate you for owning this. And I hate BotCon even more for losing the molds after they made Transmetal Tigatron from it.

BotCon 2005 Ironhide
I do think this is probably the best toy G1 Ironhide has ever gotten. Admittedly, though, the competition isn't all that fierce.

HFTD Ironhide
I refuse to ever transform him again on the grounds that it may drive me to mass murder.

A coherent set from me, this time:

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_UniverseMinibots_alt_zps8d3cc5e0.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/UniverseMinibots_alt_zps8d3cc5e0.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_UniverseMinobots_robot_zps560c251b.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/UniverseMinobots_robot_zps560c251b.jpg.html)

The Universe Minibots were very sought-after at the time, and some of them were very hard to find. My Warpath has moved on (I gave him to my nephew after I got Generations Warpath, who is just a better-executed, bigger version of the same toy). But these four I've kept.

I'm not a big fan of the tiny Legends/Legion size class, to be honest. It's very hard to make a good to for collectors at such a small size (for kids is a different story -- these things are great for kids). The figures usually turn out to either be too simple, leading to simplified, ugly robot modes, or too complex, making them a floppy mess. But Brawn? Brawn is basically perfect. He looks good in both modes (in spite of having his face painted the wrong colour for no apparent reason) and I can absentmindedly transform him in under five seconds without even looking at him. He's a perfect desk/couch toy to fiddle with while most of my attention is on something else. How in the world did he ever get boxed up?

Beachcomber is almost as cool, but his transformation isn't quite as satisfying and the bits of roll cage on his arms have always vexed me. I've never really understood why Mr. Beatnik has a machine gun in vehicle mode, either. But he's a lovely shade of blue and captures the original toy quite well.

I want to like Wheelie but I just can't. The gigantic arms and legs just look off to me. The head mold is satisfyingly cute, though.

And then there's Cosmos. I loved him at the time because Cosmos is my favourite Minibot, but with the new toy coming out this year it really took the bloom off of him. he's got Retrax arms and wonky legs, and he's the wrong colour! The design really needed the extra joints that the larger size class could bring it. He used to be one of the most sought-after little TFs ever, but I don't think many people want him anymore.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_Cosmoses_zpsaefb7067.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/Cosmoses_zpsaefb7067.jpg.html)

Blackjack
2014-07-22, 05:04 AM
I missed on this Brawn, but I have ROTF Brawn! Should dig him out.

ROTF Brawn was cool. I liked him.

Skyquake87
2014-07-23, 08:57 AM
I passed on those Universe Minibots. They showed up randomly on clearance in the UK, bypassing main retail. Whilst they looked nifty, I get bored with seeing constant anthropomorphised faces on Autobots. I like that some of the original toys look alien and odd.

RiD Optimus Prime
I don't often play with this guy, and he sometimes feels more of a kit than a Transformer, but when I do get him out, he always impresses. The massive foot long fire truck is superb. The small robot mode is decent and you can add various bits of his 'Super-mode' to beef him up (if you like) and then he turns in that stunning larger robot and has the most fun set of missile launchers! Great toy. Not so keen on the 'Omega Prime' team up mode with RiD Magnus, which feels a bit wibbly and top heavy (because it is).

Beast Wars Transmetal Terrorsaur
Just a great deluxe toy. The 'transport mode' is garbage though - just looks like the pterodactyl mode has crashed into the ground. Really great robot mode and a cool looking alt mode. Colours are great too.

Generations Skullgrin
Not quite the hulking Voyager toy he should have been, but a superior use of the mould that gave us Staxus. Neat transformation and a good update of a pretty forgotten character. More Decepticons, please Hasbro!

Stunticons
A Special Teams merge group I always wanted as these guys just look bad ass and dangerous in alt mode. I like the characters too - they really come across as some sort of dysfunctional terrorist cell lead by an absolute b*st*rd.

Reflector
Hilarious cuboid threesome that turn into the world's deadliest camera. Brilliant.

Warcry
2014-07-23, 06:03 PM
ROTF Brawn was cool. I liked him.
I never liked him, but I'm not sure why. Maybe because I thought it was silly to name a toy "Brawn" and then slap zillions of guns on it? He looks pretty cool, though.

I passed on those Universe Minibots. They showed up randomly on clearance in the UK, bypassing main retail. Whilst they looked nifty, I get bored with seeing constant anthropomorphised faces on Autobots. I like that some of the original toys look alien and odd.
There's nothing I'd love more than to see toy-accurate heads on toys of Bumblebee or Brawn or Gears, but I'm afraid that ship has sailed. :(

Generations Skullgrin
Oh yes. I tend to keep Straxus out on display instead, because he's Straxus and how do you not love that? But I actually like Skullgrin a little better. He just looks like a big, hulking barbarian! I sliced off the ends of his pick-axe weapon to make it look more like a barbarian's club, though.

More Decepticons, please Hasbro!
Agreed! The last few years have been very Autobot-heavy in the Generations line, especially when you discount the multiple Megatrons and Seekers.

Reflector
One of the best G1 toys, IMO. Mine didn't survive my childhood, alas.

Still can't wrap my head around why he wasn't released at retail.

Some more from me!

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_WaspyDriftSaber_alt_zps36177728.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/WaspyDriftSaber_alt_zps36177728.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_WaspyDriftSaber_robot_zpsd5716551.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/WaspyDriftSaber_robot_zpsd5716551.jpg.html)

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_Planz_zps0c97d62e.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/Planz_zps0c97d62e.jpg.html)

10th Anniversary Waspinator doesn't look like much up against his newer, shinier Generations counterpart, but show accuracy aside he's easily the better toy. He has functioning knees, for one, and his wing articulation isn't crippled by an annoying gimmick. I also love that he's got a head-switching gimmick that actually works, something that most of the early BW toys tried and almost none of them got right (only Waspy and Scorponok pull it off without looking stupid, IMO).

Generations Waspy has displaced him from my main BW shelf just by dint of looking better, but this is a good, solid design. I wouldn't mind picking up Buzz Saw or one of the wacky Fox Kids designs (or, hell, even the BWII remold...Dirgegun?) one day in order to have an example of it that's not been shoved off by an inferior-but-pretty toy, but right now I don't have the room.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_Drift_zps23581a84.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/Drift_zps23581a84.jpg.html)

Generations Drift was sort of hard to evaluate at the time, because IDW's antagonistic hard sell of the character made him pretty much the most loathed Transformer ever for a brief while. Now that that haze has cleared, though, it's a lot easier to look at the guy with a dispassionate eye. Unfortunately, that eye doesn't really like what it sees. The figure looks like a million bucks in light blue as Blurr, and that makes poor Drift, with his off-white and dried-ketchup red, seem really bland. That makes it harder to overlook the not-so-great articulation. The figure's chunky design gives him a nice, unique silhouette, but it also means he's got about eighty huge bits of car hanging off him at different angles, all wanting to occupy the same space when you transform or pose him. Trying to make him look cool with his swords is not easy, and again he compares poorly to Blurr and his guns.

Also his big sword is so soft that it bends under its own weight if you pose it any way but vertically, which really pisses me off.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_StarSaber_zps0e26adef.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/StarSaber_zps0e26adef.jpg.html)

Robot Masters Star Saber. Well, okay, bootleg RM Star Saber. But still. Even ignoring the poor-quality bootleg plastics, he's still a laughable piece of crap. No leg articulation? No head articulation? An alt-mode that looks like a folded up robot? He's like an Armada toy without the cool play features. I can't believe this is what passed for a collectors' toy in 2004. I also have a bootleg of Victory Leo hanging around somewhere, but he's even worse. The best thing about spending $8 on these guys? They convinced me not to shell out $80 or whatever for the real thing.

The sad thing is, I like Star Saber. I'd love to have a good, modern toy of him. This isn't it. And I'm certainly not shelling out for the Masterpiece, I don't like him that much. Maybe he'll show up in Generations, one day?

Blackjack
2014-07-24, 03:16 PM
I never liked him, but I'm not sure why. Maybe because I thought it was silly to name a toy "Brawn" and then slap zillions of guns on it?

He only has a pair of chunky handguns and that machinegun in his alternate mode. He does look a fair bit like Brawn in a Movie setting, and the guns look good so I'm never too bothered by him.

There's nothing I'd love more than to see toy-accurate heads on toys of Bumblebee or Brawn or Gears, but I'm afraid that ship has sailed. :(

Won't lie, a toy-accurate head on my G1 Bumblebee would go it a long way for me to like him.

Agreed! The last few years have been very Autobot-heavy in the Generations line, especially when you discount the multiple Megatrons and Seekers.

[quote=Warcry]Generations Drift

Maybe it's just me not really loathing his character (I loathe his spotlight issue but otherwise he's not more offensive than a lot of characters out there) and maybe partly because I don't own the far prettier Blurr, but I've always had a soft spot for Drift. Sure, over the years the shoulders that point backwards and the huge chunks of car around his legs do inhibit his transformation, but I've always loved this toy.

Robot Masters Star Saber

Mmm, I've never liked Star Saber's design personally. I'm not quite sure why. Maybe it's because he looks too similar to Optimus-Prime-with-wings? Dunno. Still, I don't give two shits either way about his Robotmasters or Masterpiece incarnations.

Warcry
2014-07-26, 07:45 PM
In honour of this week's big combiner reveal, have some Energon combiners!

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_EnergonCombiner1_zpsddb9beb8.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/EnergonCombiner1_zpsddb9beb8.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_EnergonCombiner3_zps94e13e94.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/EnergonCombiner3_zps94e13e94.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_EnergonCombiner2_zpseb20ab63.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/EnergonCombiner2_zpseb20ab63.jpg.html)

These guys have got a lot of flak over the years for, essentially, not being G1 enough. The fact that they were marketed as Aerialbots, Combaticons and Constructicons didn't help, I suspect. But I like them!

At the time I was fairly short on cash, and distribution wasn't very good, so I never really had a chance to build complete combiner teams. But lucky for me, there were only three unique molds per combiner, so I could pick and choose my favourites without missing out too much. I only bought one of the team leaders, since Storm Jet and Steamhammer didn't impress me at all, but I wanted to get one of each of the Scout molds. That didn't quite work out (I didn't like the blue crane in the first wave, so I wanted for the green and black one and he didn't come out here) but I got most of them, and I'm quite happy with my mixed-and-matched set.

Barricade is probably the best modern combiner torso, not that that's an especially difficult feat. He's got a good-looking, well-articulated robot mode, albeit with a huge, mostly-hollow backpack. He looks good as the core of a combiner, and I especially like the unique, not-at-all-G1 head that they gave him. His alt-mode isn't bad either, since it's got a decent amount of play value even if his head is clearly visible from the sides. The biggest knock on him, IMO, is that like the other two combiner team leaders, he came with no accessories of his own.

Kickback (the tank) is probably the weakest of the bunch. His vehicle mode is cool, and I like that he's an anti-aircraft tank rather than a battle tank. Paired up with Barricade's missile launcher, the two of them are nice thematic opposites for the Autobots' combiner -- designed to shoot down planes. But his robot mode is pretty awkward. He's got ski-feet, awkward back kibble and guns hanging off his ears.

Storm Cloud isn't the helicopter guy I wanted originally, but once I realized that the final wave (including the much-prettier purple Blackout) wasn't going to show up, I got this guy instead. But despite my fears, the blaze orange isn't really that bad. The gold and brown counter it nicely. His robot mode is cool, with good articulation, though hampered a little bit by an overly-large chest. His helicopter mode isn't bad either -- though his arms and legs are pretty clearly just hanging off of him, at least some effort is made to make them look like they belong. He's also got the distinction of having the only Energon weapons of the bunch that actually look like weapons.

Sledge suffers a bit from having obvious legs making up the back half of his vehicle mode. His robot mode almost makes up for it, though. He's got good articulation and a good "look", really pulling off the tough-guy construction worker feel that they were going for. The subdued colour scheme is nice too. I also like that he can use his Energon weapon (nominally a fork or something) as a shield, which seems fitting for a construction guy.

Treadshot is one of my favourite Basic/Scout sized guys ever. His vehicle mode is a bit weak, I'll admit, but his robot mode is pretty great. He's got the same basic "Cyberjet" layout that a lot of small TF jets have, but he pulls it off better than most. He's got ball joints everywhere and a good range of motion. I really like his colours, too. There's a few other versions of this mold that look good, but none of them top his black/baby blue/yellow/silver deco.

Sky Shadow (why exactly isn't Treadshot the one with a gun in his foot?) is one of about a zillion A-10 Thunderbolts in the history of the Transformers franchise, but one of the few molds that aren't a reference to Powerglide. His asymmetrical feet and gun-turret head are neat touches, as are having his engines become hands. I quite like him, though it's taken a while for me to come around to appreciating him -- when I first got him, I thought he sucked because he wasn't G1 enough.

Skyquake87
2014-07-27, 01:48 PM
Ah, the Energon combiners. So much potential cruelly wasted by compromise and some odd design choices. I do like Sledge, Treadshot (ghastly name) and Blackout. All the rest are pretty horrible.

Some others from me...

TFCC Seacons
Expensive, poor quality control and the world's flimsiest plastics let down what could have been a cracking set. But! The colours man, just look at them! Okay, the grey/ orange combo is a bit wishy washy on Seawing and Nautilator, but the blacks, purples and yellows on everyone else look brilliant. I have also discovered that Piranacon (why do I always think the gestalt is called Piranaking?) is much more stable if you put his legs on back to front. It doesn't look as pretty, but means he's less top heavy and gets rid of that horrible lean that this gestalt always had. Probably not a set I'd ever recommend to anyone, truth be told. The cheaper TRU reissue has much better plastics and is probably what most folk are after from the Seacons.

Transformers Collection / Encore Megatron
I love the original Megatron toy. He's hefty and fragile and dangerous all at the same time. Maybe its the handgun alt mode, but there's something about Megatron that gives me pause. The UK, lacking the right to bear arms, isn't awash with guns so its kind of a weird thing to handle a toy that's based on something used for killing people (or 'defense', if you prefer). I like the TFC reissue for its fun accessories - the Energon Mace etc, but its the Encore version with that bad ass airbrushed artwork and lovely purple box that tickles my nostalgia. Oh yes.

Binaltech Smokescreen (BT08 - 2004 version)
Smokescreen was so good he got another outing in the second year of Binaltech, using a sightly different Subaru Impreza alt mode (I can't tell you the model), which is a little more round looking, has different hubs and has, for me, more of the bounce I associate with rally cars. This version came with one of two race numbers (2 or 8, if IIRC) used by different drivers. The sponsor decals are different from the original and the robot mode looks a wee bit more tubby. Best of all, he comes with a rocket launcher - with launching Missile! Plus the gorgeous sparkly paint, diecast, chrome and rubber one associates with these figures. Put that in your tailpipe and smoke it , MP Cars!

Beast Machines Terrandon
Yeah, he's a comedy jumble of animal parts around the world's stockiest robo dude, but by God he's a lovely thing. The skin texture is amazing, he's done in this lovely rich bronze/brown shimmering tone, has a bunch of cool secondary colours going on in robot mode, excellent detailing and a silly 'dead' mode and a gun he can barely hold, but he is just great and fun and one of my very favourite Transformers toys ever. Makes poor Guiledart look a bit anemic by comparrison.

Alernity Banzaitron
Something of a forgotten line these days, this sequel series to Binaltech took the same basic concept (licensed vehicles, realistic interiors blah blah blah) and shrunk it down to a 1:32 scale. The fiction is just preposterous nonsense, so we'll ignore that. I didn't care for many of the designs (such as there were), but do like my Convoy Super Black. To go with him, I chanced upon this colourful looking bad ass. He's some sort of exclusive or other and is just a straight redeco of the Seekers. Banzaitron isn't the most successful Alternity design - he has some looseness reminiscient of Gobots where plastic parts move against metal - and has some epic proportion problems (his legs are just sooooo long), but I like the glossy paints and that they've taken all that cool Binaltech engineering and squished it into something the size of a regular deluxe toy. The mould works well as Banzaitron and I also like the vehicle mode, just because it looks a big smiley face on wheels.

Blackjack
2014-07-28, 09:59 AM
I've always... not-hated the Energon combiners. I have the Universe reissues doled out in quasi-G1 colours, and I thought they were cool little toys if not exactly GEEWUN, and despite my rather scathing reviews on them back in the day I have grown rather fond of them.

(I can source images from my old reviews! Also realize I need to retake these sometime soon in the future. Maybe rewrite the reviews too someday.)

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_superion_robot.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_superion_alt.jpg

Warcry doesn't cover Silverbolt (or Storm Jet, as his original mold is called, I think?) and he basically sucks. He's not a really solid center piece for a combiner, and in robot mode he's got these massive blocks for hands and is generally unattractive all around. Compared to Onslaught (or Barricade, as Warcry had covered above), Silverbolt is really, really weak. I do find Onslaught's Leia buns hilarious, though.

Personally think that the two Aerialbot molds are pretty decent jets and robots (I thought the Air Raid/Airazor (Treadshot in Energon) one is kinda... unattractive in robot mode? I dunno. Really love Fireflight/Sykdive (a.k.a. Sky Shadow), though, from his unasymmetric look to his turbine gloves to those flight goggles.

The Combaticons make better limbs, but Brawl/Blast Off the tank is kind of a crappy ski-feeted robot with an annoying head design. Do love Blast Off's colours, though. Swindle/Vortex the helicopter is a lot more solid, coming with dual-barreled rifles and generally looking the least kibble-tastic in both robot and alternate mode.

Bruticus and Superion themselves aren't that impressive thanks to the sucky hands and feet, but otherwise serviceable as display pieces.

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/gen_bruticus_robot2.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/gen_bruticus_alt.jpg

This inspired me to dig out Fall of Cybertron Bruticus... nope, he's still as crap as he was when I first played with him. He has really nice colours, though. He makes an attractive display piece.

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/prime_predaking_robot.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/prime_predaking_extra1.jpg

I also liberated Supreme Class Predaking from where he was hanging out in the living room alongside the other ornaments there. He's a really simple toy, isn't he? Rather fun to fiddle with, but the oversimplification and the general lack of paint (partly due to the idiotic light-up feature) makes him feel a lot less impressive than he can be. The stupid spring-loaded gimmick that forces his dragon head in a reared-up position unless you force the issue is also annoying. Though those orange wings do look really badass.

He is a great, great toy that makes the inner five year old so happy. As a show-accurate representation of the show's Predaking he does it surprisingly well too... as an articulated collector's item? Not so much.

ganon578
2014-07-28, 02:50 PM
I've always... not-hated the Energon combiners. I have the Universe reissues doled out in quasi-G1 colours, and I thought they were cool little toys if not exactly GEEWUN, and despite my rather scathing reviews on them back in the day I have grown rather fond of them.

I'm actually quite fond of my Classics Devastator. The colors are well done (the bright green is and always has been eye-catching) and the Constructicons included are really quite fun. Scavenger is actually an OK toy, even though he has a giant scoop for a hand. He doesn't feel like he's too limited by being the torso, and he doesn't have a giant backpack like Barricade. His feet/toes could use a little work though.

Blackjack
2014-07-28, 03:17 PM
Barricade's backpack is pretty compact, though, and doesn't affect balance all that much. You'd think it would, since it juts out quite a lot to the back, but it really doesn't affect balance.

Warcry
2014-07-28, 05:40 PM
Barricade's backpack is pretty compact, though, and doesn't affect balance all that much. You'd think it would, since it juts out quite a lot to the back, but it really doesn't affect balance.
It's basically hollow, so while it's a bit unsightly it doesn't hurt him as much as it could.

And more combiner goodness (?):

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_Grimstone1_zps068c4b85.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/Grimstone1_zps068c4b85.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_Grimstone2_zpsf9065933.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/Grimstone2_zpsf9065933.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_Grimstone3_zpsa4bcb351.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/Grimstone3_zpsa4bcb351.jpg.html)

Grimstone! The most sought-after and hyped Power Core Combiner release! The only toy in the line to get the attention of our mostly-G1-crazed fandom for more than a few seconds!

Oh, and also a total piece of garbage! :(

The idea of a styracosaurus Dinobot is an easy sell for me, and I do sort of like Grimstone's core robot even though objectively it's not very good. It's impossible to deny that it's compromised by the combining gimmick, though. And the limbs are very lacklustre, with basically no articulation. The combined mode isn't much to write home about either, though the unified Dinobot colour scheme makes it look pretty cool at least.

Mostly, though, this set makes me wish for a Deluxe class Dinobot that turns into a styracosaurus, ankylosaurus, pachycephalosaurus, parasaurolophus or dimetrodon.

Blackjack
2014-07-28, 06:10 PM
The Power Core Combiners are kind of bad. I have the Combaticons and I'm really sorry I ever got them. (I've just realized the amount of Combaticon toys I have amassed over various lines without even really liking them as characters. Huh.)

(Barring Swindle. Swindle's cool)

The Combaticons came with Bombshock too, who is totally shit and I think I broke his leg. He's probably chilling out in the box of shame. The other PCC dudes aren't so bad... Searchlight and Hugger are mostly inoffensive toys... no big flaws that make me hate them, but have several little ones thanks to their combining gimmick.. Searchlight comes with whirling blades! That in itself was awesome enough. Icepick is probably my favourite out of the ones I own, just by looking pretty badass with those claws and turning into the most mental snowmobile you'll ever see. Icepick is a cool dude (no pun intended) that seems to have the PCC gimmick installed at a later gimmick, and he's awesome for that.

Will dig him out sometime.

Clay
2014-07-28, 09:28 PM
Here's how my Power Core Combiners are set up:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3703.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3703.jpg.html)http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3704.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3704.jpg.html)

I had picked them around the time of release, but boxed them for about three years until I needed something to accent Metroplex's bigness. Upon this re-evaluation, I decided that they're extremely hit-and-miss. I like the construction vehicle set, military vehicle set, and the Mad Max set, but the race car set and plane set are a bit bleh. Same goes for the individual cores. Fire truck, Huffer, and the snow plow are all okay by me, but the helicopter guy is pretty dire.

Would have liked to have found the tank and hovercraft, but it wasn't meant to be.

Oh, and also a total piece of garbage! :(


If you would ever like to part with them, let me know! I would like to see for myself. :o

As for the Energon/Superlink combiners, I bought all three of them on release ten (ten!) years ago now, and I still like them greatly. I'll have to dig them out now...

Thunderwave
2014-07-28, 09:57 PM
Would have liked to have found the tank and hovercraft, but it wasn't meant to be.

Those two are my favorite of the PCC guys. The plugs on Undertow don't stand out that much with his color scheme. Plus if you mistransform him a little you can get his combiner head out in robot mode. Heavytread hides his arm plugs on the backs of his arms and mostly out of sight. He's looks a bit like Brawl as a combiner torso. It's funny how much better they got as the line went on.

On a similar note, a few other favorites:

Human Alliance Half-Track: Forget the crazy weapon mode, the little buggy and robot modes are where it's at. I liked this coloration over the Sandstorm one, plus it came with a little astronaut.

Dark of the Mood Leader Ironhide: Big, massive, and fitting even with the undersized arm guns. He's also the reason I bought Human Alliance Backfire and Whirl. Their weapon modes fit him nicely (even if you have to tweak Whirl's a little).


Real Gear Robots Booster X10: Basically an updated G1 Laserbeak. The only toy I picked up out of that line because of that fact.

Warcry
2014-07-29, 12:42 AM
If you would ever like to part with them, let me know! I would like to see for myself. :o
All yours if you want 'em. Just shoot me a PM (and don't say I didn't warn you ;) ).

Tantrum
2014-07-29, 01:28 AM
I don't have any PCC sets, but I do have 3 of the torsos: Huffer, Sledge and the F1. I didn't care for the PCC line at first. But, when I bought my mom some perfume for Mother's Day, CVS gave me a $10 coupon. That was enough for Huffer and some jelly beans. I liked Huffer enough to pick up a couple more torso-bots on clearance, but I never got any limbs. I'm not missing out on much, am I?

Clay
2014-07-29, 02:37 AM
I don't have any PCC sets, but I do have 3 of the torsos: Huffer, Sledge and the F1. I didn't care for the PCC line at first. But, when I bought my mom some perfume for Mother's Day, CVS gave me a $10 coupon. That was enough for Huffer and some jelly beans. I liked Huffer enough to pick up a couple more torso-bots on clearance, but I never got any limbs. I'm not missing out on much, am I?

Not really, no. They were a neat idea, making combiners in such a way that emphasized speed of assembly and auto-transformation. But the little connectors don't always want to stay attached, and not many of the arm drones actually have a decent hand. And of course the little drones aren't robots themselves, and that's half the fun of combiners, innit?

If you want to hunt one done, I'd recommend the Combaticon set. The torso bot is very poor, but the limbs and combined mode work about the best of any of them. It was also in the first wave, so it should be widely and cheaply available now.

Blackjack
2014-07-29, 05:37 AM
Same goes for the individual cores. Fire truck, Huffer, and the snow plow are all okay by me, but the helicopter guy is pretty dire.

Would have liked to have found the tank and hovercraft, but it wasn't meant to be.

I myself would really like to buy Smolder the firetruck and Undertow the boat. I kind of flip-flopped on Smolder until he eventually disappeared from retail, whereas Undertow never materialized.

The construction set look kinda neat too IMO.

Not really, no. They were a neat idea, making combiners in such a way that emphasized speed of assembly and auto-transformation. But the little connectors don't always want to stay attached, and not many of the arm drones actually have a decent hand. And of course the little drones aren't robots themselves, and that's half the fun of combiners, innit?

Yeah, this neatly sums up all the problems with the PCCs. I wonder how much better the gestalts would be if they just didn't bother with springs and made the drone limbs just, y'know, transform manually. My main problem is that the auto-transforming feet likes to spring-load back on themselves and topple poor Icepick backwards.

If you want to hunt one done, I'd recommend the Combaticon set. The torso bot is very poor, but the limbs and combined mode work about the best of any of them. It was also in the first wave, so it should be widely and cheaply available now.

I have the Combaticon set! The torso is indeed very shit. So shit that I have no idea where it is now -- it's not in my box of shame.

The combined mode with Icepick and Huffer do look pretty good, though.

Blackjack
2014-07-31, 06:41 AM
So I have been going on an toy archive binge lately because of this thread, and I stumbled upon my Cybertron Metroplex review. Which has... ridiculously terrible pictures, so I dug Metroplex (or 'Megalo Convoy' if you want to be all Japanese) out of the shelf he's been displayed in for the last three or four years, and is surprised by just how tall he actually is -- I've actually been displaying Metroplex in his 'work' mode to have him fit the shelf he's in. He's a massive, tall toy that's fun! I wished his ankles can bend more so as to support his balance better, but there are so many strong ratchety joints throughout his long leg that it doesn't really matter.

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cyb_metroplex_robot.jpg

I'm not a big fan of his hand, though -- it's not really powerful enough to hold his Sparkdrinker (Sparkgrinder? Sparkcrusher? One of them) circular saw-axe thing without the support of his other arm. Here's his weapon with the Cyber Key thing activated. It's supposed to turn his circular buzzsaw into an axe with glowing lights, but that seems ridiculously impractical now isn't it:

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cyb_metroplex_alt1.jpg

Also good jeez he's got a lot of Minicon ports. I remembered using him as a sort of a base for the Minicons to 'park'.

He's pretty tall and massive, easily dwarfing my Supreme class Predaking and Fall of Cybertron Bruticus (who he's standing in the middle of in his full glory). He's got a pretty m'eh alternate mode that's actually based on a real thing.

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cyb_metroplex_alt.jpg

His Minicon is basically Armada Leader-One with Twin Twist's alternate mode. His name is either Drill Bit or Stripmine -- one is Quickmix's similarly drill-based Minicon, but I can't be bothered to look it up. Here's Work-mode Metroplex and the Minicon in alternate mode.

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cyb_metroplex_alt2.jpg

He's a massive toy -- Predaking's head, not counting his wingspan, reaches his waist and a normal deluxe like Tankor or Ripclaw only reaches his knee.

Yeah, I do like this dude. His arms do feel a bit too short, but other than that I like him. He's just this big dude which I'm sure is dwarfed by his Generations namesake, but I like this Metroplex better because I didn't find out about G1 Metroplex until like a year after I owned this toy.

Thanks to all our Energon Combaticon talk, the Bruticus team got a day out from the shelves too:

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_bruticusmax_robot.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cyb_metroplex_alt4.jpg
("I WILL TEAR YOU APART!")

They're pretty cool dudes. The panel that Bruticus' head rests on is ridiculously loose, but I think that Onslaught is a pretty solid toy. Most of my opinions on the limbs -- decent but flawed -- still stands, though since they are basic class toys... wait, shit, how big are Menasor and Superion going to be then?

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_bruticusmax_alt4.jpg

Bruticus is quite posable and it really surprised me that he's got knee and hip joints. Shame about the feet and the hands, though -- they really bring the rest of Bruticus down.

Here's just a bunch of pictures of the individual Combaticons, which I think is a nicer, less loud version compared to the original Energon Combaticons. The bright orange energon weapon really hurt them, though -- they feel so out of place and all the details (the tanks' radar dish are particularly nice) are all washed out thanks to being cast in bright plastic.
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_bruticusmax_alt.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_bruticusmax_alt1.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_bruticusmax_alt2.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_bruticusmax_alt3.jpg

I'll have to remember to dig out Superion to replace his pictures sometime soon!

Skyquake87
2014-07-31, 09:29 AM
hrm...not sure I like those dull colours on those Combaticons. I kind of like the bright colours on the Energon versions.

Metroplex looks interesting, but does look to me like a Transformer in search of an alt mode.

Smoulder and Chopster I sued to own. As a pair they were pretty cool. Smoulder's robot mode was something of an acquired taste though. The legs and shoulders were very kibbly and although posable, these things conspired to make him look a bit odd. Chopster is hilarious though. He turns into a nifty axe that Smoulder can bonk people on the head with. Torso mode is terrble though.

Warcry
2014-07-31, 04:01 PM
I don't know if I'm the only one, but Blackjack's pics (the ones he pulled from his reviews) don't show up for me on my home PC...I just see empty grey boxes. I need to view the images in a different window to see them.

hrm...not sure I like those dull colours on those Combaticons. I kind of like the bright colours on the Energon versions.
Agreed! They look terribly boring in the ROTF colours. Those toys came out during Hasbro's thankfully-shortlived "everything needs to be realistic!" phase, sadly, and are the worse for it.

Metroplex looks interesting, but does look to me like a Transformer in search of an alt mode.
Also agreed! He's got a really cool robot mode but his alt-mode just looks like a robot in the fetal position, with a shovel attached.

Smoulder and Chopster I sued to own. As a pair they were pretty cool. Smoulder's robot mode was something of an acquired taste though. The legs and shoulders were very kibbly and although posable, these things conspired to make him look a bit odd. Chopster is hilarious though. He turns into a nifty axe that Smoulder can bonk people on the head with. Torso mode is terrble though.
I never cared for Smolder personally, but Chopster is fantastic! And the blue version that came with that terrible jet Darkstream was even cooler.

Today I've got a couple big ol' planes:

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_StarscreamPowerglideAlt_zps77ce780a.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/StarscreamPowerglideAlt_zps77ce780a.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_StarscreamPowerglideRobot_zps8bf096dc.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/StarscreamPowerglideRobot_zps8bf096dc.jpg.html)

ROTF Starscream is so close to being a great toy. The first 95% of his F-22 mode is strikingly beautiful, but it's all undone by his big, obvious claws hanging out the back. His transformation is genius and his robot mode is likewise almost perfect, only to be ruined by awkward legs with minimal joints. His "tattoos" are also problematic, because over the years he's been in storage they've been scratched and rubbed off to the point where they look more like dirt than a coherent visual pattern. I really do like him, though. For all the flak ROTF gets for overly complicated designs and frustrating transformations, this is one that the design team did a pretty good job on.

And I could say much the same about Universe Powerglide...so close to being great! A lot of people hate him because he's big and white and not GEEWUN, and I can understand that's not what a lot of fans look for in their throwback toys. But I think he's pretty good! His A-10 mode is really nice, with an imposing silhouette that actually makes it feel like the flying death machine it is in real life rather than the "cute" little plane the TF franchise has usually portrayed it as. The robot mode, unfortunately, needed some work. In particular, the chest doesn't peg together as well as it should and the arms are tiny. Hasbro should have spent more time on that and less on molding in a silly heart as a reference to a terrible cartoon episode.

The colours aren't great either, on any of the versions of Powerglide that got made. But I like this one the best. It has at least a little bit of contrast and life to it, as opposed to the very bland red decos that both Hasbro and Takara tried out later. It could definitely use more, though, and the purple Decepticon redeco was probably the nicest edition of the figure.

Blackjack
2014-07-31, 04:32 PM
I don't know if I'm the only one, but Blackjack's pics (the ones he pulled from his reviews) don't show up for me on my home PC...I just see empty grey boxes. I need to view the images in a different window to see them.

That's probably just me trying to source it so that the pictures look smaller. They did look fine when I posted them, but they show up as gray boxes now for me too. So screw it, a quick edit later and they get to be big pictures now!

Blackjack
2014-07-31, 04:53 PM
Freakin' laptop ate my long reply to those two posts!

hrm...not sure I like those dull colours on those Combaticons. I kind of like the bright colours on the Energon versions.
Agreed! They look terribly boring in the ROTF colours. Those toys came out during Hasbro's thankfully-shortlived "everything needs to be realistic!" phase, sadly, and are the worse for it.

I do like them! I mean, Brawl and Vortex are kinda boring, but I do quite like sandy Swindle, gray Onslaught and dark brown Blast Off. I think that the Energon team look quite too loud, though that may just be the yellow tank clashing with the rest of the team. I think this bunch of Combaticons are decent looking, if a bit monochromic... though Bruticus is like that in the first place, so hey!

Granted, they look really bland especially now that they're hanging out with Fruit Loop G2 Bruticus, but the Aerialbots are far more boring. When I dig them out tomorrow and get hi-def photographs instead of the embarrassingly grainy ones I'll show you.

Metroplex looks interesting, but does look to me like a Transformer in search of an alt mode.
Also agreed! He's got a really cool robot mode but his alt-mode just looks like a robot in the fetal position, with a shovel attached.

To be fair, a realbucket wheel excavator (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bucket_wheel_excavator_in_Ferropolis.jpg) that he's based on doesn't really have a really exact shape beyond box-with-a-wheel-shovel, so...

Still, it is undoubtedly weak, though I'm thankful that they focused more on making the robot mode solid enough to support his weight and height without toppling over instead of making a better-looking alternate mode. I mean, he never gets transformed anyway, so...

ROTF Starscream

I really regretted not getting ROTF Starscream. The Leader class, while wonderful, is too big and out of scale with everyone. The first movie one is awful, though holds a special place in my heart as my first Transformer that built my collection, and DOTM is sorta bad with that massive crotchpiece.

He does look pretty cool!

I always thought that the only real poor Voyager that's overengineered was Mixmaster. Long Haul's a little frustrating but nothing difficult, whereas Demolishor and Fallen have laughably easy transformations.

And I could say much the same about Universe Powerglide...so close to being great!

He needs more red! I mean, I don't want him to be entirely red like the bad Walmart repaint, but Powerglide is a nice example of 'everything realistic' Hasbro that ends up producing something nice. Just wished the robot parts, especially his messy torso, get highlighted a bit more. And if he has slightly longer and larger hands.

I don't like him that much, but I don't mind him in my collection.

Do agree that the Decepticon redeco (Storm Cloud? Tailwind?) look pretty beautiful, though. Shame I never stumbled upon it.

electro girl
2014-07-31, 07:27 PM
Time after time I always go back to playing with Beast Wars Polar Claw, gotta love him.

Notabot
2014-07-31, 08:46 PM
I kind of go in spurts of thinking animal TFs are great and thinking they're really stupid, but one that always makes me smile is Stampy. From the name to the fact that he's a red-eyed rabbit to the fact that he turns into big scissors, he just makes me happy. I don't remember exactly how it happened, but I wound up with two Stampys, and both are boldly displayed and pointed out to people when they come to visit.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o235/Notabot/Mp19.jpg (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/Notabot/media/Mp19.jpg.html)

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o235/Notabot/05.jpg (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/Notabot/media/05.jpg.html)

Skyquake87
2014-07-31, 09:01 PM
I LOVE THIS THREAD!!!!! :D

Polar Claw is ace. Sadly, mine is yellowing :( Boooooo. His only flaw is the spring loaded bat not working quite as it should and er, the attack claw always unravelling. So thats two flaws. Yay me.

COMBATICONS COMBATICONS COMBATICONS! WE ARE MIGHTY AND HAVE LOTS OF GUNS! WE DO SHOOTING AND FIGHTY THINGS!

Skyquake87
2014-07-31, 09:04 PM
...COMBATICONS ALSO COME IN A VARIETY OF FRUIT FLAVOURS ... SIX IF YOU INCLUDE BATTLE GAEA BUT SKYQUAKE DOESN'T HAVE THAT ONE, JUST THESE 'COS HE GOT A BIT WEIRD WITH THEM...



...STILL BETTER THAN THAT RUBBBISHY FOC ABOMINATION THOUGH

MIGHTY COMBATICONS!



Also, Stampy looks ace. I did not know he turns into Scissors. That's amazing.

ganon578
2014-08-01, 05:16 PM
I LOVE THIS THREAD!!!!! :D

I second that motion. This thread has re-energized my love for my old toys! :D It has also curtailed making new purchases right now since I'm just enjoying what I have and seeing all the other figures that people have enjoyed or been dismayed with over time.

Can the Constructicons get a little love on the Combiner talk? I mentioned these earlier, but didn't have pics.

They're the only Energon era combiners I have, but they were redecoed to G1-ish when Classics hit. One of the first purchases I made when I began collecting again, right alongside Classics Starscream, so they remain one of my favorites.

Messing around with these makes me long for Transformers that are chunky, well built, and just damn fun. Some of the more recent figures have been rather fiddly in my opinion. These are simple to transform, well articulated, and don't seem like they're breaking anytime soon.

Warcry
2014-08-01, 06:36 PM
I'm glad this thread has been fun for folks other than me!

Time after time I always go back to playing with Beast Wars Polar Claw, gotta love him.

Polar Claw is ace. Sadly, mine is yellowing :( Boooooo. His only flaw is the spring loaded bat not working quite as it should and er, the attack claw always unravelling. So thats two flaws. Yay me.
Polar Claw is great. I got one second-hand about a year ago, and he's one of my favourite BW toys. The little bat guy doesn't like to stay in his "gun" mode but otherwise all of his mechanisms are in like-new shape. No yellowing either, thankfully.

COMBATICONS COMBATICONS COMBATICONS! WE ARE MIGHTY AND HAVE LOTS OF GUNS! WE DO SHOOTING AND FIGHTY THINGS!
In spite of the 842 times they've been released, I've never actually owned a Combaticon team. The closest I've come is having G2 versions of Blast Off and Swindle.

I love the G1 combiners in general, though, especially the Scramble City-type ones. The huge number of available figures made them lots of fun as a kid even if I did have trouble assembling full teams. I may have to take a peek at some of those guys next.

I kind of go in spurts of thinking animal TFs are great and thinking they're really stupid, but one that always makes me smile is Stampy.
I don't have a Stampy, but I do have one en route!

He looks like one of the best Japanese BW molds. He's not a shellformer like so many of them were, which automatically elevates him above the handful of molds I've got currently (mostly Universe versions of BW Neo dinosaurs).

A whole bunch of stuff from me today!

First off, a set that's always had a special place in my heart: the last full wave of Universe Deluxes.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_UniverseGuysRobot_zps636f50e4.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/UniverseGuysRobot_zps636f50e4.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_UniverseGuysAlt_zps1efa3a0c.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/UniverseGuysAlt_zps1efa3a0c.jpg.html)

Longhorn is a redeco of one of the greatest molds of the Beast Wars, Ramulus. His colours sound really odd on paper, but in person the blue, gold and dark red look really cool together. He's got great poseability in robot mode, with cool forearm-blades and a nice, mythological look owing to walking around on rams' legs. And his beast mode is functionally poseable too, a rarity for BW-era molds.

Frostbite is a bit disappointing. His paint job and colour scheme are glorious, but the actual toy is an awkward, messy little dwarf. His beast mode especially looks great, but basically falls apart as soon as I try to touch it. Robot mode is more stable but quite messy, especially with all those jackal arms rolled up on his biceps. I can't hate him though, he's just too pretty.

Night Slash Cheetor is one of exactly two BM Maximals that I don't think look horrible (the other one is Longhorn's original BM toy), and I was stoked when he came out in this colour scheme. I'm not quite as enamoured now as I was then, but he's definitely the best toy I've ever seen of any of the BM show Maximals. His major failing his his transformation, which is (like too many BM toys) just his beast mode standing up, with a new head. But that beast mode looks great and his sword gimmick in robot mode is cool.

And another, more random grouping!

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_ShadowScorpDepthStrkaRobot_zps58881fb1.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/ShadowScorpDepthStrkaRobot_zps58881fb1.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_ShadowScorpDepthStrkaAlt_zps3d4f912b.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/ShadowScorpDepthStrkaAlt_zps3d4f912b.jpg.html)

My opinions on Black Shadow haven't softened much from the time I reviewed him for the site. The Thunderwing mold is solidly mediocre, and Black Shadow's colours don't do anything to elevate him above his more recognizable cousin. His dull grey arms fell especially flat IMO, since the original figure had some nice splashes of white to break them up.

Stalker Scorponok has a really cool beast mode. I definitely like the BW-inspired deco that this version got over the grey and bronze colours of the screen accurate 2007 figure. He's barely a Transformer, though, and that really takes away from his value IMO.

ROTF Depth Charge is still one of my favourites from that line. I love that he turns into a warship, since he's one of a very few Transformers with legitimate seafaring modes as opposed to wishy-washy "space boats" and hovercrafts. His deco is gorgeous too, a nice marine camo pattern. His robot mode is a bit awkward, with much of its' mass ending up on his feet, but I like it. Since mass-shifting isn't really a thing in the movieverse Depth Charge would be massive, hundreds of feet tall and probably bigger than the biggest Transformers we've seen on-screen so far in the movies (which IIRC was Devastator). The robot mode has the look of an appropriately hulking giant about it in spite of being a little Scout, and I like that.

Universe Strika looks nothing like the character from the TV show, but then the original toy didn't either. The mainly yellow and lavender deco is cool, giving her a slight feminine edge in spite of being a deeply genderless mold. The worn-looking paint was a nice touch too, and the first time I'd ever seen that on an official toy. Like a lot of BM Vehicons, the vehicle mode has a lot more personality and a much more coherent design than the robot mode. Said robot is, sadly, very clunky and unsightly. I still think it's a good toy, but not up to the same (admittedly high) standards as Obsidian or the Deluxe Jetstorm that begot the Skywarp I talked about in the first post.

Skyquake87
2014-08-01, 09:13 PM
I love Frostbite! I am so happy I own one, but I can't say he's amazing, for the reasons what you have done there. But he's still great. Not too keen on the mustard yellow NSC, I prefer the brooding dark blue/ black of the original BM version. I'll have to look one of those up one of these days. Just 'cos Cheetor's original BM toy is cack.

The Classics Devastator is pretty nifty, I sold him to get the universe build team recolours though (better toys, IMO).

Some more!

Universe Shadowstriker & Roulette
Sexy Lady Bots with amusing trout pout lipstick mouths! Yeah, the comedy pucker mouths do spoil things a bit, but the colours on these two are ace. Shame there was no budget to do anything with the moulded Autobot brand on Shadowstriker's left forearm though.

Beast Wars Bonecrusher
Hairy Bison fun with comedy mouth launched missile me do. A really great little toy. The missile gimmick does fill out an inordinate amount of the figure, but.he.shoots.missiles.from.his.mouth!Brilliant.Looks ridiculous as an attack feature in beast mode. Robot mode is another great piece of work from Kenner. Lovely balance of black, grey and white accented with red and metallic colours. Love the expressive 'Star Wars Hands' tat Kenner introduced to this era of Transformers. Better than the usual block with a hole, which sadly persists to this day.

Transformers Collection Tracks
Tracks is a personal favourite of mine. I know his character is this little Lord Fauntleroy type, and he's got a crappy humanoid face for his animation model (and Classics update), but his original toy is just class. He lacks a lot of the die cast of some of his Diaclone brethern, but it makes him more durable. He has a silly flight mode (beating M.A.S.K's Thunderhawk to the punch) and proportion problems in robot mode, but there's just something endlessly appealing to me about his mix of blue and chrome, coupled with that flaming hood deco. I think this mainly stems from drooling over that picture in the UK '85 Annual where Rumble's punching him in the chest.

E-Hobby Road Rage
Red Tracks. But a LADY. I like that she's a bodyguard for Crosscut. And looks funky in her red and black / gunmetal get up.

Denyer
2014-08-01, 09:28 PM
Black Shadow has more character (and definition in the head sculpt and detailing)... the Thunderwing release of the mould feels rather lacking. Still quite like both.

I like that ROTF Bruticus blue helicopter, it'd probably adapt to Rotorstorm nicely. Shame the set seems to go for daft amounts now.

Speaking of which, I've probably really pissed someone off this evening by sniping a Munitioner but not the Explorer the same eBayer was selling.

Thunderwave
2014-08-01, 10:25 PM
In spite of the 842 times they've been released, I've never actually owned a Combaticon team. The closest I've come is having G2 versions of Blast Off and Swindle.

Me either. The closest I've come, really, is the Universe rerelease of the Energon Combaticons with the Fansproject upgrade kits. The only one I owned before that was a lone G1 Brawl.

My opinions on Black Shadow haven't softened much from the time I reviewed him for the site. The Thunderwing mold is solidly mediocre, and Black Shadow's colours don't do anything to elevate him above his more recognizable cousin. His dull grey arms fell especially flat IMO, since the original figure had some nice splashes of white to break them up.

I love his colors at that head. It's classic. Reminds me of the old giant robot shows.

numbat
2014-08-02, 12:49 PM
Whilst putting some new Transformers away, I had to get TFCC Scourge out to stand beside Generations Sky-byte. Bit of a disaster, as Scourge is half his height (although remains an awesome mould with superb paint apps - he's just more than a bit short...).

Couldn't resist getting a few other Classics-style figures out to fiddle with given most of my Transformers on shelves have been movie-verse and Masterpiece lately.

RTS Lugnut remains totally and utterly awesome - he goes from an Indiana Jones style cargo plane which is pretty elegant to a hulking monster of a robot in a very enjoyable transformation (I do wish he'd stop firing a missile out of his arse though). I love the Classics-style reimagining of the Animated character having never been into the overly stylised, erm, style of that line.

Generations Deluxe Warpath also remains superb - the way everything folds into a streamlined robot is great, and I really like the G1 catch-phrases printed on the tank mode.

numbat
2014-08-02, 12:58 PM
So I have been going on an toy archive binge lately because of this thread, and I stumbled upon my Cybertron Metroplex review. Which has... ridiculously terrible pictures, so I dug Metroplex (or 'Megalo Convoy' if you want to be all Japanese) out of the shelf he's been displayed in for the last three or four years, and is surprised by just how tall he actually is -- I've actually been displaying Metroplex in his 'work' mode to have him fit the shelf he's in. He's a massive, tall toy that's fun! ...

He's pretty tall and massive, easily dwarfing my Supreme class Predaking and Fall of Cybertron Bruticus (who he's standing in the middle of in his full glory). He's got a pretty m'eh alternate mode that's actually based on a real thing.

I've seen one of the real things he's based on, rearing over a hill in Western Australia, grinding the world into oblivion... Pretty awe-inspiring if horrendously environmentally damaging. I have a weird love-hate relationship with construction and mining machinery... Love the machines, hate what they do.

I'd love to get a Cybertron Metroplex one day. I missed out due to employment issues when he was released. He just looks so snazzy.

Blackjack
2014-08-02, 04:03 PM
I'd love to get a Cybertron Metroplex one day.

He is awesome indeed. I got him for less than half the original price thanks to Cybertron stock being cleared out to make way for Movie toys. Not knowing the slightest thing about Metroplex or the Cybertron line, the only real choices were Metroplex and Primus.

'Why would I want a toy that turns into a stupid looking ball?' I said. 'And his robot mode has all these ball halves hanging off him.' So I got Metroplex, plus Crumplezone (who I liked from the show). I have never regretted that decision.

I like that ROTF Bruticus blue helicopter, it'd probably adapt to Rotorstorm nicely. Shame the set seems to go for daft amounts now.

...

I have never even considered that. Bruticus now has Air Raid for an arm and Vortex Undercover Rotorstorm hangs out with Guzzle, Kup, Whirl, Springer and the Jumpstarters.

Beast Wars Bonecrusher

I've always thought that toys that shoot missiles through their mouth (Bonecrusher, Jetstorm... and there's one more from Beast Wars, I think) are a little bit daft, but I did have the chance to see Bonecrusher in person and I thought it looked pretty charming. Though my massive bias for all things Beast Wars may have miscoloured my perceptions.

Time after time I always go back to playing with Beast Wars Polar Claw, gotta love him.

Ooooh Polar Claw! Polar Claw is easily the favourite Beast Wars toy I own. Will talk about him in a later post.


I kind of go in spurts of thinking animal TFs are great and thinking they're really stupid, but one that always makes me smile is Stampy.
I don't have a Stampy, but I do have one en route!

I want a Stampy. :(

I want a Bunny Wobot.

I'll have to dig out my Beast Wars stuff and talk about them all.

Longhorn is a redeco of one of the greatest molds of the Beast Wars, Ramulus.

Ramulus is freaking awesome.

He's, like, my second-favourite Beast Wars toy after Polar Claw.

The rest are Cicadacon, Torca, Prowl, Buzzclaw and Retrax in that order, though that new Terrorstrafe is quickly gaining on me too.

(the other one is Longhorn's original BM toy)

-puttup-

Stalker Scorponok has a really cool beast mode. I definitely like the BW-inspired deco that this version got over the grey and bronze colours of the screen accurate 2007 figure. He's barely a Transformer, though, and that really takes away from his value IMO.

I have the original movie Scorponok. And while it might not mean much to you all, Scorponok was the most awesome villain from the 2007 Movie... which you all will know as the defining moment for my descent into Transformers madness. It took so long just to kill this one little bugger, and he was even just this little attack dog of the helicopter dude that blew everyone up!

And the visuals -- I never thought a robot scorpion jumping out of sand could look in any way realistic. But Scorponok did! And the way he went in and out of the sand like this monstrous creature... Scorponok was one of the most awesome visual spectacles that will stay in my head forevermore.

I have his toy, and it's poop -- the gear system in mine seems to have cracked -- but he's still awesome for all that reason.

COMBATICONS COMBATICONS COMBATICONS! WE ARE MIGHTY AND HAVE LOTS OF GUNS! WE DO SHOOTING AND FIGHTY THINGS!

I have two full sets of Combaticons (G2 Fall of Cybertron, regrettably, and Energon) plus Universe Onslaught, Animated Swindle, the other Universe Onslaught, Movie Brawl and the PCC Bombshock Combaticon thing. So yeah, consider your Combaticon love shared by me!

A bunch of extra toys from me, while I take pictures for the site:

First up is Cicadacon, who is a wonderful robot:
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/bw_cicadacon_robot.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/bw_cicadacon_robot2.jpg
He's just so posable, and comes with two pretty funky-looking swords. You'd think being a part of a combiner would kind of ruin him, but no. Cicadacon has a ridiculous amount of articulation and stability, even outperforming some other Beast Wars toys that doesn't even need to combine. His limbs are just free of any sort of kibble, which help out, and his facesculpt is this devilish-looking thing that looks pretty awesome.

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/bw_cicadacon_robot3.jpg

And those wings! Each of them are ball-jointed, so Cicadacon can splay them out like a butterfly out to murder you, or have them trail behind him like a cape. They also double as really awesome sword-sheaths.

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/bw_cicadacon_alt.jpg

He turns into a cicada, which is sorta cool -- my review probably details about the extreme amount of biologically-accurate detail they fitted into this toy, so I'm not going to bore you, but Cicadacon is an awesome Cicada. And he combines with the nearly equally-awesome Sea Clamp (which I'll talk about later) and Ramhorn (who sucks) into the mightily awesome Tripredacus! The combination is just a bonus, though -- Cicadacon himself is pretty damn awesome.

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_hen_mirage_alt.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_hen_mirage_robot.jpg

Next up is Henkei Mirage. People's talked about the original Mirage and Fracture in this thread, and he is indeed a beautiful, athletic mould. Granted he looks pretty much nothing like the original G1 Mirage, but you know what? That's a good thing! The original Mirage is this blocky-looking dude who I wince every time he shows up in a comic or a cartoon, because this toy right here? It has taken root firmly in my subconsciousness as the one true Mirage. He's just so awesome and posable and just hands-down cool.

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_hen_megatron_robot2.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_hen_megatron_robot3.jpg

The definitive Megatron in my collection for a long, long time was Henkei Megatron. Sadly, unlike Mirage, the years haven't been kind to Megatron. Thanks to actually playing with the Henkei toys when I was younger, Megatron's purple chrome on his insignia and his chest have worn off. There are some chipped black paint on his legs as well -- but, eh, battle damage!

Megatron's kinda cool, but is starting to show his age. His hip joints are pretty ratchety, and it's rather hard to get Megatron in a position where his feet look normal. His arms are rather weird as well, with each fist being static and pointing in different directions.

Despite all that, though, Megatron is probably the only Henkei toy that outright shines above the original Classics deco, doing away with all the loud green and orange, and replacing the purple with a nicer tone of black. As my various other toys have shown, gray is a pretty boring colour, but Henkei Megatron adds some red to the mix which makes him look pretty attractive. And while the Nerf gun wings really ruin the look of the Classics toy, on the Henkei version they sorta look like wings, which again makes him quite cool. He's not the best toy out there, but I think he's the best Megatron toy I own.

And he now hangs out with my Lost Light boys.

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_hen_megatron_alt.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_hen_megatron_alt2.jpg

Also, he turns into a Nerf gun... which I don't really mind. Robbed away of the silly orange and green pain, Megatron just looks like a random space-gun the way Shockwave, Sixshot and Galvatron looks like. And it fits my hand perfectly and the trigger makes a really satisfying click sound when you pull it.

Thunderwave
2014-08-02, 04:04 PM
OH! How did I forget him!

Cyberton Primus: He's big, bulky, and turns into a spiky ball! I got my second hand and thus was missing the Omega Lock (a mechanical pencil and some patience substitutes), but he's still a great toy.

Blackjack
2014-08-02, 04:16 PM
****, I forgot to include the Energon Aerialbots, despite them being the main reason why I took pictures of some other dudes! Anyway, here's Superion:
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_superion_robot.jpg

The Fireflight/Skydive mould make pretty serviceable arms or legs, but the Air Raid/Airazor one is horrible in both leg and arm form. On my Bruticus it's better thanks to Onslaught being a better torso piece, but Silverbolt is just a shitty little thing with hips that refuse to bend the way you want to, and thus you'll have him always favouring one leg over the other. Basically while the little plane dudes are cool Silverbolt is shit and ruins the entire set for me.

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_superion_alt.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_superion_alt1.jpg

The first picture shows Silverbolt flanked by Fireflight and Skydive -- damned if I know which is which. The second one shows Air Raid (black one) and Airazor (white one).

Here are the alternate modes:

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_superion_alt2.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/cla_superion_alt3.jpg

Silverbolt is crap all around. He's a shitty torso, as mentioned above, basically refusing to stand properly while in combined mode. In his robot mode, he has these ugly massive gorilla arms, and his nosecone chest refuses to peg with the crotch. Add that to the unsightly gap between the nosecone and the body and he really sucks. The jet mode? Pfft, from that angle he might look impressive, but he's not in person. Add that to his uninteresting paint scheme, which makes the already boring Storm Jet one look even worse, and Silverbolt might be the least favourite toy in my collection. Now that one of the Warthog moulds have taken Vortex Rotorstorm's place as Bruticus' arm, I have no need for Superion so into the Box of Shame he goes.

The Warthogs, Fireflight and Skydive, are pretty solid limbs, either as arms or legs. I mean, the arm basically is a crab claw with two gun-fingers, but it's better than what the Brawl mould or the Air Raid mould forms. They are pretty decent little jets as well, and while nowhere as impressive as Universe Powerglide still manages to pull off the distinctive look quite well. In robot mode they're a bit less impressive than I remembered. I do like how the wings can be splayed out or folded backwards to give then distinctive looks, and the asymmetrical feet work well too, and the massive energon blasters look nice in robot mode. They have these blocky turbine arms, however, and while I'm a big fan of the flip-down machinegun goggles, they pop off way too easily for my likes. Also, they're kind of ruined by their rather ugly paint schemes. Ugh. Compared to the original usages of the mould -- Sky Shadow and Terradive, plus the Fanclub's Skyfall, these two are just rather ugly.

Air Raid and Airazor, on the other hand, are pretty great transformers even if they make shitty limbs. The two-breadsticks-joined-together-by-a-flat-piece assembly that's either supposed to be his feet or fingers will pop off whatever you do, and the Air Raid's limbs trying to hold together that yoga pose when he's in combined form? Not too stable. But as little transformers they are pretty fun! They've got a pretty solid robot mode and a pretty solid jet mode. Airazor's a bit blah, and Air Raid looks pretty weak next to the similarly-coloured Treadshot, and their weapons are kind of shit. What are they supposed to be anyway? Clubs? Darth Maul double-bladed lightsabers? Guns that will shoot you in the face if you fire them? Tuning forks? They're solid little toys, I suppose, but doesn't impress me much.

Warcry
2014-08-03, 04:48 AM
I hate the Side Burn mold, so Shadow Striker and Roulette have never done anything for me. They look cooler than he does at least.

(And the dreaded Side Burn transformation is a joke compared to what some of the movie toys gave us!)

I love his colors at that head. It's classic. Reminds me of the old giant robot shows.
I really, really want to like Black Shadow, and I agree about the head -- it's brilliant! He just needs a bit more paint (and to be a Voyager, but not much can be done about that...)

RTS Lugnut remains totally and utterly awesome - he goes from an Indiana Jones style cargo plane which is pretty elegant to a hulking monster of a robot in a very enjoyable transformation (I do wish he'd stop firing a missile out of his arse though). I love the Classics-style reimagining of the Animated character having never been into the overly stylised, erm, style of that line.
Guess who I just took pics of for my own toy ranting? :glance:

Will go into detail about him later, but basically I agree with everything you say. Except he's not a cargo plane, he's a bomber -- cargo planes don't have tail guns and turrets.

Generations Deluxe Warpath also remains superb - the way everything folds into a streamlined robot is great, and I really like the G1 catch-phrases printed on the tank mode.
One of my favourite Deluxes ever! A great toy. Though I disagree about the catch-phrases, I think it makes it look like a jackass deco'ed the toy. I feel the same way about Lugnut having his name printed all over him, or Universe Onslaught having some fanboy's birth date tampographed on him. I'm glad that nonsense has stopped.

I've always thought that toys that shoot missiles through their mouth (Bonecrusher, Jetstorm... and there's one more from Beast Wars, I think) are a little bit daft, but I did have the chance to see Bonecrusher in person and I thought it looked pretty charming. Though my massive bias for all things Beast Wars may have miscoloured my perceptions.
Sky Shadow, dammit! Don't forget him! :(

Transquito too, I think. Does Jetstorm have a missile? I thought he sprayed water? Or maybe I'm thinking of a different guy.

I've always been of two minds about the missile-mouths, too. On the one hand they're stupid, on the other hand they're hilarious. Can you imagine these guys trying to communicate with their allies in combat, speaking around the gigantic missiles they're chewing on?

(the other one is Longhorn's original BM toy)
-puttup-
Screw you, BM Longhorn is awesome! :)

(Well, okay, not awesome, but he's pretty okayish.)

I have the original movie Scorponok. And while it might not mean much to you all, Scorponok was the most awesome villain from the 2007 Movie... which you all will know as the defining moment for my descent into Transformers madness. It took so long just to kill this one little bugger, and he was even just this little attack dog of the helicopter dude that blew everyone up!
You're not alone on this. Scorponok remains the most memorable part of the entire TF movie franchise to me. Up until then I was iffy on the whole concept of live-action robots, but he sold it perfectly.

Also, he turns into a Nerf gun... which I don't really mind. Robbed away of the silly orange and green pain, Megatron just looks like a random space-gun the way Shockwave, Sixshot and Galvatron looks like. And it fits my hand perfectly and the trigger makes a really satisfying click sound when you pull it.
I've never understood why our fandom loves the gun alt-modes so much. Maybe I just don't get it because I can go shoot real guns whenever I want? I dunno. But this mold never attracted me at all.

I'll talk about my favourite Megs later this week probably, but for today...

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_LugnutBludgeon_robot_zps2f0b16f2.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/LugnutBludgeon_robot_zps2f0b16f2.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_LugnutBludgeon_alt_zpscfc9b25e.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/LugnutBludgeon_alt_zpscfc9b25e.jpg.html)

What can I say about Lugnut that numbat hasn't already? Lots, as it turns out. I like that Hasbro decided to go with something like the more subdued "Atomic Lugnut" colours rather than the original, mostly-purple deco (Takara showed us what that mistake would look like). I love his cyclopean head and lantern jaw, and the huge, articulated hands that are good for hoisting up Scouts. The alt-mode is brilliant, too.

I do think it's silly that the biggest, most proud Decepticon got released in a line where Hasbro refused to put any faction symbols but rubsigns on the toys, though. He should be wearing his insignia proudly! Thankfully, Reprolabels fix that nicely.

Bludgeon on the other hand is kind of awkward. His hips don't want to stay pegged together, his articulation moves in ways that don't always make him look so good (especially at the shoulders) and his transformation is a bit frustrating (am I the only one who feels like he needs a hammer to get the head to slide down when going to tank mode?). The aesthetic is nice, though, and I'm happy that the designers were able to successfully merge the original's Pretender shell and alt mode together with some more overt samurai elements and a "mechanized skeleton" look that fits in beautifully with the on-screen movie characters. ROTF had a few great off-screen figures. Bludgeon isn't one of them, but he's still pretty cool.

Blackjack
2014-08-03, 08:50 AM
(And the dreaded Side Burn transformation is a joke compared to what some of the movie toys gave us!)

I was about to talk about ROTF Mixmaster, which I dug out of display alongside Superion, but I gave up transforming him even after looking up instructions from the internet. ****ing hell, Mixmaster...

None of the other ROTF toys are remotely this frustrating. I got Fallen and Demolishor out and they're as simple as any Voyager should be. They're fun, even if Demolishor's treads are a bit sticky for whatever reason.

Mixmaster is a very show-accurate robot, I think, from what little we saw of him in ROTF. He's a ridiculous bundle of ball joints and random kibble hanging off. In theory, he can pull off a shit-ton of poses and do all the stuff with the flipping around and planting his four shields onto the ground and turn into that cannon mode, but the sheer amount of joints and all the moving parts makes him a really, really unwieldy toy. And I remembered him having the most impressive and show-accurate alternate mode compared to the other Constructicons I own other than the fact that his mixing drum can't spin... but I can't bloody transform him so that's a moot point.

I really, really want to like Black Shadow, and I agree about the head -- it's brilliant!

I got Thunderwing out. He's a tiny little midget isn't he? I kept him hidden behind Straxus and Shockwave in my Decepticon leaders display, and I can see why. He's not a bad toy in any stretch, but he's just so simple and short and generally looks rather... weak overall.

He's nowhere as horrible as Universe Galvatron, though, who's a massive mess all around.

Sky Shadow, dammit! Don't forget him! :(

Does Jetstorm have a missile? I thought he sprayed water? Or maybe I'm thinking of a different guy.

D'oh, yeah, I had Sky Shadow in mind, but typed Jetstorm instead. I think I mixed up the two green Predacons with bug wings splayed upwards from their hips. I do know Jetstorm is the one that shot out water.

Also, protip to anyone who's fiddling around with water-shooting toys: don't play with them on your desk!. I mucked around with Torca's water gun just now, and apparently it still had water inside it and ended up having to blow-dry a bunch of important papers that got soaked.

Transquito too, I think.

This is the ****er I forgot!

Screw you, BM Longhorn is awesome! :)

I bought a MOC Longhorn like a year ago and it's your fault! He's not particularly horrible like some other toys I own (Guiledart, Retrax, Motorarm) but his robot mode is kind of odd-looking. From the weird weapons in his hands to the transparent aqua plastic they use for the chest -- which is an odd choice to use... he would certainly be improved by using more gold or maroon.

He's not a bloody mess the way Geckobot is, though. (Where did my Geckobot go?)

You're not alone on this. Scorponok remains the most memorable part of the entire TF movie franchise to me. Up until then I was iffy on the whole concept of live-action robots, but he sold it perfectly.

Blackout alone had already impressed me quite a lot. I went into the movie theater thinking it's some kind of bad action movie with fancy CGI in the style of... oh, Inspector Gadget or something (this was before superhero movies were a staple, and honestly what do you expect with a silly title like 'transformers'?), and the Blackout simply sold the movie and the Scorponok scene turned it into my all-time favourite movie.

I've never understood why our fandom loves the gun alt-modes so much. Maybe I just don't get it because I can go shoot real guns whenever I want? I dunno. But this mold never attracted me at all.

I don't love the gun alt-mode, but it's something the original Megatron turned into so eh, why not? The feeling's like owning, oh, a reissue of the original Optimus or Jazz, or owning G1 Bumblebee and Ironhide. In my head these guys don't look like that, aren't supposed to turn into a beat-up red minivan or a VW, but there's still a nice sense of old homage aura going on.

I think this is really the first time I transformed Megatron into his gun mode and really looked at it ever since I reviewed him so many years ago.

Megatron is forevermore a jet or a tank in my head. More tank than jet in recent years, because none of the jet Megatrons really look good -- the 2007 Movie and Prime decents are memorable but their jet modes are basically shapes piled up on each other. And as much as I like Animated Megatron he never really spends that much time in his helicopter mode. So I guess Megatron's a tank in my head?

No, wait. He's a Tee-Rex, not a Tank!

-goes off to grab Beast Megatron-

http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/jbw_re_megatron_robot.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/images/jbw_re_megatron_alt.jpg

Here we go. Officially the second best character in the entire Transformers franchise, and having the most awesome voice in it as well, a repaint of the Beast Wars Megatron toy (T-Wrecks) has the distinction of being a really memorable toy from my childhood before I even know what a 'Transformer' is. So when I started collecting stuff I stumbled upon this and went 'holy shit, my old toy! In purple!' I had no idea what this Beast Wars stuff is, and I keep kicking myself for not picking up Optimus Primal when I did, but here's Telemocha Robot Masters Megatron.

It's a Classics-styled version of the original first Megatron toy... and while everyone probably will agree that the best Beast Megatron look is the Transmetal body, this is the one I identify with Megatron the most. He's a bit of an unwieldy toy thanks to having two massive kibble wings, a big T-Rex head for a hand and a T-Rex tail that keeps falling off on the other, but he's still a wonderfully coloured toy that does what it means to do very well.

This Megatron has always been the centerpiece of my collection ever since I displayed them instead of keeping them in boxes, first standing next to the Henkei dude in the center of the shelf, and then graduating into standing in the forefront of my Beast Wars one when it similarly exploded.

I just wonder why Hasbro never redecoed the Robot Masters Optimus Primal and Megatron moulds (and the crappy Star Saber and all the other dudes, for that matter). If anything, it would make for really cheap Walmart exclusives or whatever that'll draw Beast Wars fans, and they look a lot better than the actual new-mould Cybertron Optimus Primal and Megatron they did. And as Takara recently proved, they haven't lost the moulds, so what gives? No, instead we get the god damned Ammonites.

Clay
2014-08-03, 03:16 PM
I kind of go in spurts of thinking animal TFs are great and thinking they're really stupid, but one that always makes me smile is Stampy. From the name to the fact that he's a red-eyed rabbit to the fact that he turns into big scissors, he just makes me happy. I don't remember exactly how it happened, but I wound up with two Stampys, and both are boldly displayed and pointed out to people when they come to visit.

Stampy is also the unofficial sixth Predacon according to me.

And to get in on the Energon combiner fun, here are the Superlink versions:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3711.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3711.jpg.html)

From what I remember, Buildron is nearly identical to Constructicon Maximus, Superion uses a darker shade of translucent blue than Superion Maximus, and Bruticus... Bruticus is pretty different. The tanks are less loud, but the orange helicopter is still there.

And here are some other old favorites, Universe Silverstreak and Cybertron Menasor.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3712.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3712.jpg.html)http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3713.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3713.jpg.html)

I really like Silverstreak's colors, and think he's the prettiest of the three. The turtleneck look isn't flattering, but it's a solid effort. Mostly rendered obsolete by the Masterpiece version being so similar in size and just being plain gorgeous.

Cybertron Menasor is great fun! He turns into I-don't-know-what, but it looks huge! And he has a Minicon in his chest! Really though, I do like the look of the of guy even if he dips into inner-Pretender-robot levels of nonsense alternate modes. But given his overall profile as a robot (wing-things, a giant claw for a right hand, and a giant pointy thing for a left hand), and given all the really random redecos Cybertron toys got for Universe 2008 padding, I don't know how this mold wasn't used for Omega Supreme. With a new head, he'd be perfectly passable next to a group of Legends figures.

Also from around the same time, Superlink Galvatron G!
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3714.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3714.jpg.html)http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3715.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3715.jpg.html)

Despite what the tfwiki tells people to think, I like this version much better than the pointlessly-oversized version released by Hasbro. For a long time, this was my Classics Galvatron. Then the Universe 2008 Galvatron was released, at which point this guy remained my Classics Galvatron. :)

Blackjack
2014-08-03, 04:23 PM
Stampy is also the unofficial sixth Predacon according to me.

And then you killed him off, didn't you? Heartless creature! :(

Stampy's cool. I want a Stampy.

I really like Silverstreak's colors, and think he's the prettiest of the three. The turtleneck look isn't flattering, but it's a solid effort. Mostly rendered obsolete by the Masterpiece version being so similar in size and just being plain gorgeous.

I do really like Silverstreak's colours. He's pretty gorgeous. You can own both the MP and Universe and one can be Bluestreak and one can be Silverstreak. He's a pretty toy.

Cybertron Menasor is great fun! He turns into I-don't-know-what, but it looks huge!

I would certainly like a Mensaor toy to display next to Metroplex. They're rivals or something in the show, aren't they? Menasor just looks so freaking awesome in robot mode -- I think all Giant Planet Transformers just have this thing going on where they have awesome-looking robot modes but turn into... things.

Didn't they do Omega Supreme with Energon Omega Supreme?

Despite what the tfwiki tells people to think, I like this version much better than the pointlessly-oversized version released by Hasbro. For a long time, this was my Classics Galvatron. Then the Universe 2008 Galvatron was released, at which point this guy remained my Classics Galvatron. :)

Screw the Wiki and what they tell people to think!

That's a pretty gorgeous Galvatron toy! Not a big fan of the blue crown, and he does look a little clunky, but both his robot mode and his jet mode look pretty damn pretty. I didn't even know he comes with a little tank dude that seems to turn into a cannon! I would buy that if that shows up in the stores and chuck my Universe Galvatron out the window. Galvatron is only around because Scourge and Cyclonus needs someone to hang around with.

Clay
2014-08-03, 05:24 PM
I do really like Silverstreak's colours. He's pretty gorgeous. You can own both the MP and Universe and one can be Bluestreak and one can be Silverstreak. He's a pretty toy.

Yeah, but the Universe mold only looks good in the absence of the Masterpiece mold. I like the Universe Sideswipe and Masterpiece Sideswipe equally and simultaneously for different reasons, but the MP Datsun just overrides the Universe version for me.

I would certainly like a Mensaor toy to display next to Metroplex. They're rivals or something in the show, aren't they? Menasor just looks so freaking awesome in robot mode -- I think all Giant Planet Transformers just have this thing going on where they have awesome-looking robot modes but turn into... things.

Didn't they do Omega Supreme with Energon Omega Supreme?

Two out of three, anyway. The other Giant Planet figure just turns into a cement truck. And yeah, they did use Energon Omega Supreme again in 2013, but I was referring to the mass of repaint figures in 2008. I'd have figured Menasor would have fit in there as Omega better than, say, Soundwave as Blaster... with Soundwave's head.

Screw the Wiki and what they tell people to think!

That's a pretty gorgeous Galvatron toy! Not a big fan of the blue crown, and he does look a little clunky, but both his robot mode and his jet mode look pretty damn pretty. I didn't even know he comes with a little tank dude that seems to turn into a cannon! I would buy that if that shows up in the stores and chuck my Universe Galvatron out the window. Galvatron is only around because Scourge and Cyclonus needs someone to hang around with.

He's chunky, to be sure, but he's actually pretty fun. He has several automorphing parts that would become widespread with the first movie stuff. I don't like that he's so much bigger than Cyclonus and Scourge, but you can't win them all. I have a third party Galvatron that's pretty much the perfect iteration of the character, but he too is too big next to Cyclonus and Scourge. It wouldn't be such a problem if Cyclonus and Scourge were terrible, but they're amazing. It'll work out someday though, I'm sure.

Blackjack
2014-08-03, 05:57 PM
Two out of three, anyway. The other Giant Planet figure just turns into a cement truck.

Oh, I totally forgot Quickmix was part of the Giant Planet! I kept thinking he was from Earth thanks to his alternate mode which made sense.

And yeah, they did use Energon Omega Supreme again in 2013, but I was referring to the mass of repaint figures in 2008. I'd have figured Menasor would have fit in there as Omega better than, say, Soundwave as Blaster... with Soundwave's head.

Oh, yeah, the 2008 Universe line! I didn't read your other post as thoroughly as I should. Considering the amount of random repaints in that line from Cybertron (Red Alert as Countdown! Evac as Springer! Soundwave as Blaster! Scattershot as this random Dropshot dude! Scattershot completely randomly again as Armada Overlord!) it's rather surprising Menasor wasn't made into Omega Supreme considering how obvious it is.

Also kind of a crime that Cybertron Scourge was never repainted into Hun-Grrr or Sinnertwin. No, we get stupid RID Bruticus the three-headed dog randomly instead.

I don't like that he's so much bigger than Cyclonus and Scourge, but you can't win them all. I have a third party Galvatron that's pretty much the perfect iteration of the character, but he too is too big next to Cyclonus and Scourge. It wouldn't be such a problem if Cyclonus and Scourge were terrible, but they're amazing. It'll work out someday though, I'm sure.

Yeah, Galvatron really needs to get a new Generations toy really bad. Considering they're revisiting characters that previously already got Generations toys with Jetfire and Powerglide (and technically Onslaught, Silverbolt and Optimus) I do hope, with Galvatron's rising role in the comics, that Hasbro has a new Galvatron toy in the pipeline.

Cyclonus and Scourge are awesome toys. One looks so similar to the cartoon and one is a straight-up 'new modernized body' but they are both so awesome.

Thunderwave
2014-08-03, 06:30 PM
Yeah, Galvatron really needs to get a new Generations toy really bad. Considering they're revisiting characters that previously already got Generations toys with Jetfire and Powerglide (and technically Onslaught, Silverbolt and Optimus) I do hope, with Galvatron's rising role in the comics, that Hasbro has a new Galvatron toy in the pipeline.


Agreed. They've also already announced a new Megatron as well (which is a good thing). The only thing I would like to point out is that Powerglide is getting a new Legends figure VS the Ultra he was before, which isn't that uncommon. Although Cosmos was only released as a Legends class figure and he got...another Legends class figure.

numbat
2014-08-04, 08:06 PM
After all the FoC Bruticus bashing, I got mine out again, and you know what? I still love him! The G2 colours help I think, but I really love the combined mode, and am happy enough with the individual bots (they are all unique at least, compared with the upcoming Combiner Wars figures that looks like generic permutations of one another). The hands are cool, and I like that the feet are made from the vehicle mode parts too. He's squaring off against Takara Generations Metroplex in my office just now - I don't fancy his chances. I'm considering getting Year of the Snake FoC Supreme Omega Supreme out too. Then he's surely doomed!

Warcry
2014-08-04, 09:32 PM
I was about to talk about ROTF Mixmaster, which I dug out of display alongside Superion, but I gave up transforming him even after looking up instructions from the internet. ****ing hell, Mixmaster...

None of the other ROTF toys are remotely this frustrating. I got Fallen and Demolishor out and they're as simple as any Voyager should be. They're fun, even if Demolishor's treads are a bit sticky for whatever reason.
Rampage is atrocious. I can't even figure out how to start putting him back in vehicle mode.

Many a Leader Prime was returned to stores a half-transformed mess by frustrated parents whose children couldn't figure out what to do with it, as well.

I got Thunderwing out. He's a tiny little midget isn't he? I kept him hidden behind Straxus and Shockwave in my Decepticon leaders display, and I can see why. He's not a bad toy in any stretch, but he's just so simple and short and generally looks rather... weak overall.

He's nowhere as horrible as Universe Galvatron, though, who's a massive mess all around.
Thunderwing's mold isn't bad per se, just bland. It does a good job of being a toy of Thunderwing but it's entirely unremarkable at anything else. Though it's got one up on Universe Silverbolt and Generations Jetfire, at least, but not having been inflated two or three size classes bigger than the complexity of the design warrants.

Also, protip to anyone who's fiddling around with water-shooting toys: don't play with them on your desk!. I mucked around with Torca's water gun just now, and apparently it still had water inside it and ended up having to blow-dry a bunch of important papers that got soaked.
:lol:

I bought a MOC Longhorn like a year ago and it's your fault! He's not particularly horrible like some other toys I own (Guiledart, Retrax, Motorarm) but his robot mode is kind of odd-looking. From the weird weapons in his hands to the transparent aqua plastic they use for the chest -- which is an odd choice to use... he would certainly be improved by using more gold or maroon.
Yeah, but he's a BM toy. His competition is stuff like Rattrap or Silverbolt or Nightscream. Being one of the best BM Maximals isn't a high bar to clear.

No, wait. He's a Tee-Rex, not a Tank!

-goes off to grab Beast Megatron-
As much as I love everything Beast Wars, that Megatron design is one that never hooked me. Transmetal? TMII? Beast Machines? Sure. Hell, I can even get behind the gator. But this Megatron just seems really clunky, like they weren't really sure what to do with his beast kibble and just said "screw it" (unlike AoE Scorn, which makes the same basic transformation look really cool).

(Note to self: paint a Scorn purple and give him WFC Megatron's head...)

And here are some other old favorites, Universe Silverstreak and Cybertron Menasor.
Always been fond of Silverstreak, myself. Oddly, I think Smokescreen looks like garbage and Prowl really hasn't aged well in my eyes (or physically...his paint has mostly rotted away). But Silverstreak's colours are so nice that he makes the admittedly mediocre mold look good.

Ironically, I don't think any line since G1 has managed to make all three Datsuns look good at the same time. We got great Bluestreaks in Masterpiece, Universe and Alternators along with several different flavours of brilliant Smokescreens in the Alt/BT lines, but I don't think there's been a good Prowl since RiD (no, MP doesn't count, it's as bland as a John Barber comic).

I don't have a clue what Menasor turns into, but he looks pretty cool! I especially like his head, with that really prominent rhino horn thing sticking up from it. It gives him a unique look.

Also from around the same time, Superlink Galvatron G!
Always wanted an Energon Galvatron, but the Hasbro version was so stupidly huge that it had no attraction at all for me. Even the Takara mold, honestly, is a bit much. It's the size of an Energon Ultra, isn't it?

Agreed. They've also already announced a new Megatron as well (which is a good thing). The only thing I would like to point out is that Powerglide is getting a new Legends figure VS the Ultra he was before, which isn't that uncommon. Although Cosmos was only released as a Legends class figure and he got...another Legends class figure.
Cosmos's two "Legends" figures are totally different sizes, though. Hasbro confusingly reassigned the name to the next size class up for the current stuff.

But Powerglide also got a DOTM Cyberverse Commander a couple years ago that is the exact same size as the upcoming Legend, so you're right that they're not afraid to put the same guy out at the same price point as long as the new toy is different enough.

Today, I've got most of the first wave of the 2003 Universe line for you folks! Skyquake87 covered the glory that is Reptilion a page back, so I won't go over him again. And I don't have Blackarachnia, but I do have...

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_PrimalSilverboltRazorclaw_robot_zps715dd95e.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/PrimalSilverboltRazorclaw_robot_zps715dd95e.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_PrimalSilverboltRazorclaw_alt_zpsd45e18f8.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/PrimalSilverboltRazorclaw_alt_zpsd45e18f8.jpg.html)

Optimus Primal. This might actually be my favorite beast-era toy. Seriously. The mold is brilliant, and the new colours just knock it out of the park. Red/brown/green/yellow aren't what I normally think of when you say "Optimus", but they work perfectly on this toy. The wild flashes of colour on his beast-mode head and neck are spectacular, and make all the difference in elevating him from "silly monkey" to "rampaging war-painted ape of death". He also comes with enough weapons to outfit a small army, including built-in missile launchers on both his shoulders and left wrist, a flail inside his right wrist, and two swords. He's poseable enough to make all the weapons look good in-hand, too. The swords even look like bananas, which somehow just makes it better.

Razorclaw, sadly, isn't as cool. The Tigerhawk mold is great and I do think he looks a bit better than the original use of this mold, but unlike Primal or Reptilion (or Depth Charge, who I sadly don't own) he's not a huge improvement on the original. The original white/blue deco was pretty bland, and just cried out for the excessive paint apps that the Universe line was known for to make some of the mold's details pop. Razorclaw just didn't get the same attention to detail as Strika or King Atlas or Silverbolt or Frostbite or...you know, pretty much any other Universe toy. The deco artist basically just swapped white and blue for black and purple, omitting the original's chrome while he was at it. And so while Razorclaw is a fun enough toy, he's not nearly as striking as I'd like to be.

(That was a surprise, because he was one of the first then-modern toys I bought once I started collecting again, and I absolutely loved him at the time)

Silverbolt catches even more flak than even the other Universe toys, on account of being...well, sort of insane in the colour department. But once again, I love him! It's the wings that do it, I think. The detail work on the feathers, with each row a different colour that gently fades into the next, with those dark silver veins running through them...that's brilliant. I could do without the neon greenish yellow on his legs though, and the robot mode is a bit boring since most of the paint isn't visible from the front. That's okay, though, because he never needs to leave beast mode -- it's got enough personality and poseability to keep me happy with him. He doesn't adequately replace the original BW toy, which I'd like to track down one day, but he's a neat entity on his own.

Blackjack
2014-08-05, 01:56 AM
After all the FoC Bruticus bashing, I got mine out again, and you know what? I still love him! The G2 colours help I think

Yeah, I really do like the colours on G2 Bruticus. It's so bright and shiny. I'm really not big a fan of the robot modes, though... maybe it's because I'm a big fan of how all the original combaticons look -- at least Onslaught, Brawl, Swindle and Vortex have distinct silhouettes in my head... and only Brawl comes remotely close to resembling it.

FOC Bruticus falls in that weird place where it doesn't really work as a homage, and doesn't even look like the game model -- wrong chest, shitty hands (Swindle and Vortex are the most sensible) and using the 'correct' combination makes you use Blast Off as an arm and Blast Off is a horrible arm.

The robots themselves... Ignoring the lack of homaging, I've always thought Vortex and Swindle, taken on their own merits, are average robots with your standard 'not enough articulation problems'. They turn into things that look like alternate modes as well, and I like the two of them.

My favourite design, Brawl, turns into a lumpy tank and his robot mode is marred my extremely skinny feet, extremely tiny guns and a massive backpack, all of which makes standing him up a massive chore. Blast Off's alternate mode is a geometric shape, and his robot mode has these massive, oddly-jointed shoulders and he feels like he's made out of inferior plastic than his buddies. I do like his guns, though.

And let us not speak of the monstrosity named Onslaught, who proves to be shit in all his modes, and somehow has stress marks in various places that doesn't relate to his combination.

I still think they're pretty bad, especially considering how most of their problems could easily be solved by not having to incorporate 'each limb can be an arm or leg' transformations, which take up so much space in every one of them and sacrifices articulation and good transformation for them. Add poor plastic and generally poor show-accuracy and general subjective ugliness... the G2 colours are cool, though, so there's that. I'm sure in a couple years' time my opinions will probably change and I'll go 'oh they're not so bad after all even though they're not g1-looking enough' like I'm doing with the Energon Combaticons right now, but I'm pretty sure Onslaught will remain shit forever.

Rampage is atrocious. I can't even figure out how to start putting him back in vehicle mode.

I haven't dug out Rampage in months, but he's pretty easy to figure out. The hands turn into the treads (there's one dummy chink that threw me off), the claws turn into spikes on the back, everything pegs at the bottom and the shovel kibble fold into place. It's annoying to figure out how they fold together, especially since some parts like those pistons just hang off randomly in vehicle mode, but it's nowhere like Mixmaster where he's just a mass of joints and how the hell did the truck cab get like that and where's the missile launcher even supposed to go and I'm just not sure if I'm going to snap something off.

Yeah, but he's a BM toy. His competition is stuff like Rattrap or Silverbolt or Nightscream. Being one of the best BM Maximals isn't a high bar to clear.

The only BM competition he has is Geckobot, who is trash. So he has to contend with competing with the rest of the Beast display rack, which is significantly difficult for him.

But this Megatron just seems really clunky, like they weren't really sure what to do with his beast kibble and just said "screw it" (unlike AoE Scorn, which makes the same basic transformation look really cool).

Not a big fan of Megatron's wing-kibbles, really. I don't mind the head and the tail, but the wing kibbles are so static. Compared to Henkei Megatron, whose 'wings' can be articulated all the way backwards to make room for arm posability, BW Megatron's wings are just splayed out like that forever.

Cosmos's two "Legends" figures are totally different sizes, though. Hasbro confusingly reassigned the name to the next size class up for the current stuff.

Yeah, the newer Cosmos is the size of an old Basic/Scout class toy, and at a higher price point to boot allowing them to afford to engineer something that doesn't have to transform in three steps.

Optimus Primal.

Shit, I want an Optimus Primal! The original design has always been my favourite. Not that the other toys are crap (well, other than Beast Machines, obviously), but the original toy is really the only one with a monkey beast mode that I really like -- impressive robot as Optimal Optimus is and as insane as TM Optimus is their beast modes are an afterthought and 'meh' respectively.

(The bat is awesome though)

Don't think the paint scheme for Universe Optimus particularly works for his robot mode, but I do agree that the war-painted ape looks pretty crazy. Still think the original toy looks better, though.

The swords even look like bananas, which somehow just makes it better.

...

Nevermind, Universe Primal is superior.

Razorclaw

KNOW THAT HE IS RAZORCLAW

Tigerhawk's mould never impressed me, he doesn't come with any particularly crazy gimmicks the larger BW toys have and the insane price he commands on the secondary market just for appearing in the show puts a wet blanket on me ever getting him. I'm a big fan of the black-and-purple deco so I'll probably jump for Razorclaw, though.

Silverbolt

Then again, comparing Razorclaw to Silverbolt (and both are more or less the same animal anyway, one's just a tiger and one's a wolf) and well, Silverbolt's looks just blow him out of the water. Both his original or Universe deco look pretty awesome, and he doesn't really manage to look boring or messy in either mode.

numbat
2014-08-05, 09:33 AM
I don't mind that FoC Bruticus doesn't exactly match the G1 design, as I understand he's meant to represent a Cybertronian version. And, the modes they gave them are not the usual copout that the 'Cybertronian' prefix usually tries to excuse. I have never seen any images from the game, let alone played it, so I don't have any issues about accuracy there either. (Perhaps this is one of the reasons the Prime figures are my favourite line ever - I have no idea what the show was like, but love the designs, although I am not seriously comparing the generally sublime Prime designs to Bruticus who is undoubtedly inferior to probably all of that line!)

Point taken on Onslaught though - he is a bit pants. I actually like Blast-Off's shoulders thought. Seem '80s to me. ;)

And I tend to have the limbs in the alternative arrangement as well. I like to have the cannon-shoulder thing going on. Gives Bruticus a shot against Omega Supreme (before Omega lifts him up and hurls him to oblivion of course).

inflatable dalek
2014-08-05, 04:13 PM
Maybe Onslaught does something amazing to improve the toy, but I would say the Impactor version is comfortably the worst Transformer I've bought since my mad completest Energon days, possibly the worst one I've ever owned. I'm not aware of another Transformer that has a face for a bum.

Blackjack
2014-08-05, 04:47 PM
Bruticus aside...

Just now I took pictures of the Beast Wars toys invading my table (because I love Beast Wars) before I put them back on the shelves. And of course while copying them from my camera to my laptop half of the pictures disappeared. I'm not about to transform that god damned Dead End a second time, so you're just going to have to live without seeing him in beast mode.

EDIT: I also took pictures for Cryo Scourge from the Cybertron line who's been hanging around who I then proceeded to insult (http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=52811). TL;DR he sucks.

Anyway...

http://www.tfarchive.com/_temp/blackjack/bw4.jpg

Polar Claw and Geckobot. Polar Claw is one of the best BW toys I own even if his left beast-mode feet can no longer stay undeployed. He's just so full of random gimmicks! Two robot faces! Saber toothed polar bear! Autotransforming bat! Giant claw that will maul your face! And he's posable and turns into a nice fat bear as well. My Polar Claw, like almost all my BW toys, is loose and he's got a few loose joints and paint, but that just means someone had a fun time playing with the majestic Polar Claw.

On the other side of the spectrum is Geckobot from Beast Machines, who is a decent, colourful flying lizard but an extremely shit robot.

http://www.tfarchive.com/_temp/blackjack/bw5.jpg

Here they are joined with the beast mode of Botcon Dirge, who I've showed off before. Dirge has misassembled mandibles that makes him look like he has an evil cowboy mustache. I do love Dirge not just because he's a Botcon toy -- his Repugnus beast mode is pretty fun and while his robot mode is so-so it's not terrible either.

http://www.tfarchive.com/_temp/blackjack/bw1.jpg

From the left to right: BWN Dead End, BWN Guiledart and Dirge, in robot modes. Dead End is the ultimate shellformer. I really love that crazy head with a tentacle-scalp and I do like his robot mode -- one of those shells that hang off his shoulders is a missile, by the way -- and he turns into an ammonite by squeezing all his robot mode except for the squid head like a goddamn puzzle into those two shells. It took me the better part of thirty minutes to do that.

Guiledart I've talked about enough -- suffice to say he's a lot better than AOE Slug. Dirge is awesome.

http://www.tfarchive.com/_temp/blackjack/bw2.jpg

Prowl, Torca and Ramulus.

Three really solid deluxe class toys, other than Polar Claw I think these three make up my favourite toys from the Beast Wars era. Ramulus just looks so ready to pick a scrap with that expression, he has satyr-like goat feet, Wolverine claws and that weird pincer-scythe weapon thing. His goat mode is not bad either, being pretty intricately sculpted and being posable in general.

Torca is awesome in beast mode. He's not a gigantic monster like the Beast Wars comics made him out to be but he's still a goddamned behemoth monster that impresses me every time I transform him. Gold plastic sucks, though -- mine hasn't broken yet but I'm always careful with him. He's got weak robot hands and beast hind feet, but that's okay because Torca's awesome.

Prowl is awesome in both modes. I wished the robot hands are hidden better in beast mode and there is some way to lock the wing assembly down in robot mode, but he's awesome nonetheless. All three Maximals are just pretty posable all around, have solid beast modes and have an inordinate amount of detailing all over.

http://www.tfarchive.com/_temp/blackjack/bw3.jpg

Bad guys! Clockwise from the top left is the Dread Elder God Demonbee Injector, Retrax giving Terrorstrafe a big hug, Powerpinch and Spittor.

Injector is just a hilarious little ****er that turns into the ugliest thing alive and it's soulless eyes and generally being what he is made him so hilarious. I had to have him. He's awesome in that 'how the hell did this get out of the design sketches' way. There's not enough madness in current transformer lines because Injector ate all of them. Injector's a rather sub-par deluxe with a big head that kind of affects his robot mode and big robot feet jutting out of his beast mode, but more than makes up for it with the sheer insanity that makes his existence.

Retrax is another awesome crazy thing. His robot mode basically just folds out from under that pillbug, but I have never transformed Retrax more than twice after getting him. Retrax's bug mode is solely why I got him -- it's a cute little monster of a thing that has the gimmick of hugging people to death, and it's got these adorable monstrous fangs. Retrax is a shit transformer, but possibly the cutest and most adorabliestest of my entire collection.

Powerpinch! He gets outshone in the insanity department by the likes of Injector, Dead End, Retrax and the rest, but he's a really solid toy. He's a great robot, he's a great bug. Unfortunately next to all the insanity that is Beast Wars being a solid toy kind of gets you sidelined. I've grown really fond of Powerpinch over the years, though.

Spittor! Spittor turns into a frog, and has an awesome-looking robot mode with long gorilla-frog arms. He can be a four-armed robot as well! He makes a really fun and colourful frog mode, and his gimmick consists of him shooting out his robot head on the tip of his tongue. Also everyone in this photo is made out of painted clear plastic, so when you shine on them in the dark it's like they're radioactive. And it's awesome.

Man I love Beast Wars toys.

**** Geckobot, though. He sucks.

Warcry
2014-08-05, 07:21 PM
I haven't dug out Rampage in months, but he's pretty easy to figure out. The hands turn into the treads (there's one dummy chink that threw me off), the claws turn into spikes on the back, everything pegs at the bottom and the shovel kibble fold into place. It's annoying to figure out how they fold together, especially since some parts like those pistons just hang off randomly in vehicle mode, but it's nowhere like Mixmaster where he's just a mass of joints and how the hell did the truck cab get like that and where's the missile launcher even supposed to go and I'm just not sure if I'm going to snap something off.
As opposed to Rampage, with his legs springing out for no good reason, his shovel falling off and why the hell won't he sit flat on the ground none of his parts will tuck in any closer what the hell?

Battle Blades Prime was also a nightmare, at least the first few times through.

Torca is awesome in beast mode. He's not a gigantic monster like the Beast Wars comics made him out to be but he's still a goddamned behemoth monster that impresses me every time I transform him. Gold plastic sucks, though -- mine hasn't broken yet but I'm always careful with him. He's got weak robot hands and beast hind feet, but that's okay because Torca's awesome.
Mine is just on the precipice of exploding. If I ever transform him again, I think he'll be a goner.

Prowl is awesome in both modes. I wished the robot hands are hidden better in beast mode and there is some way to lock the wing assembly down in robot mode, but he's awesome nonetheless. All three Maximals are just pretty posable all around, have solid beast modes and have an inordinate amount of detailing all over.
Prowl is cool! But dammit, would a couple of "teeth" to lock those wings in place really have killed them? It's driven me nuts for over fifteen years now.

Here are a few toys from the line's post-ROTF golden age:

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_SeasprayBreacherHubcap_robot_zps8a10ff19.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/SeasprayBreacherHubcap_robot_zps8a10ff19.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_SeasprayBreacherHubcap_alt_zpsc503bc16.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/SeasprayBreacherHubcap_alt_zpsc503bc16.jpg.html)

Hasbro was all "Sea Spray is totally the G1 guy" when the toy came out, though he doesn't really fit in very well with the lineup nowadays. A version of the character adapted into the proto-Prime style that most of the 2010 new molds used? Sure. But a "classics" version of the G1 guy? Nah. Just goes to show how standards have changed over the years, I suppose.

That's not to say that I don't like him, though. He's a nice, chunky, straightforward Voyager, one of the better molds from that era in his class. He's got adequate articulation, his robot mode carries off the "deep sea diver" look nicely and his alt-mode is much more detailed and functional than any other hovercraft the line has ever done. I quite like that he was designed to carry around Scout-class toys, and he works quite well with smaller figures too.

In particular, Breacher was marketed as Sea Spray's tiny counterpart. And he does work well with his larger partner, though they'd make a better team if Hasbro had made an effort to colour-match the toys' dark blue parts to one another. Beyond his alleged interactivity with the larger toy, Breacher is a neat little "pocket" version of Universe Onslaught, sharing the bigger guy's alt-mode and 90% of his transformation. He's a bit busy, and a bit too complex for his small size, but he's a cool little figure from an era that had lots of them.

Hubcap is, frankly, great. One of my top two or three favourite Scouts. He's a lovely classic car and his transformation is a nice take on the traditional Jazz-style Autobot scheme. He pulls off the old-looking robot mode way better than Ransack, since his looks don't interfere with his functionality the way the poor old plane's did. He's nicely poseable and fun to muck around with, and like the Universe Legend Brawn he gets bonus points for being something I can absentmindedly transform in a few seconds while watching a TV show or something.

Skyquake87
2014-08-05, 09:40 PM
@ Blackjack : Aww, I'm jealous of your white Prowl. Over here he came out as a black/ blue variant colour and its just far too dark! Retrax is fun, but a royal pain in the ass with his spring loaded mechanisms. Torca is indeed awesome (and looks to me like he should have been a lot bigger than he actually turned out) and Powerpinch is a sexy wee dude.

Some other stuffs from me...!

Beast Wars Scorponok
My first BW purchase (along with Inferno) and is now loose as hell. He's the toy counterpart for the Predacons of Polar Claw, with his launching Cyber Bee and tail slashy action (which works in robot mode too!). The gimmicks here work a lot better than on Polar Claw - which I put down to the choice of beast mode. The nice black and red colour palette is lovely too!

Beast Wars Insecticon
I love this little guy! The beast mode is excellent, I love the slightly sparkly blue plastics mixed with the solid green of the limbs. The weapon storage is superb and the robot mode is a proper creepy little thing. Love his crossbow weapon too.

Beast Wars Cheetor
Like a lot of the Maximal toys, the designers have struggled a bit with the beast mode (its far too blocky and bulky for a Cheetah), but he is a great toy to play with. A nice, slick transformation, neat weapon storage and a decent, posable robot form. He's a little kibbly, but it adds to the charm. Shame Hasbro chickened out of colouring his 'gut gun' - parents might have been turned off, but I bet kids would have loved it!

Generation 2 Ramjet
PURPLE DEATH - WITH SOUNDS!!!!! (and er, a replacement missile since I took these pictures)

RiD Rail Racer
The combined form of TEAM BULLET TRAIN. I like the individual bots, but they are all quite lanky and weird looking. Unsurprising, given that they all turn into trains, but then they crack out this beefy gestalt which is one of the greatest combiners in the history of Transformers. It's a shame that this level of though and ingenuity has been lost somewhere along the way and the best Hasbro have been able to do in the last ten years is terrible arse like ROTF Devastator and the unstable wibbliness of FoC Bruticus.

Heinrad
2014-08-05, 10:45 PM
What else to throw in......

RTS Jazz: At least I think he was RTS. I got the Reprolabel sticker set for him, so he looks a bit better now. He just looks so awesome. My only complaint with the figure, and I'm surprised none of the third party designers jumped on this, is the vehicle mode wing. Either that, or I'm just picky.

Generations Wheeljack: Or possibly RTS. I still don't know why they did this. I hated the stupid rub signs the first time around, what made them think I'd welcome them with open arms almost 30 years later? But Wheeljack is a brilliant design. Works much better for him than for Tracks.

Animated Hot Rod: Yeah, I know, technically he's Rodimus, but the design just screams Hot Rod. I love the little guy. I can't play with him, though. I've got the Japanese version, which was painted. And I'm really worried about the paint flaking off. It was coming off the corners in the packaging.

Animated Ironhide: A very nice Ironhide figure. It would have been nice if they'd given him a different weapons loadout(using Ratchet's shock paddles as brass knuckles? Really?), but he's got a neat vehicle mode and a nice vibe to him.

numbat
2014-08-06, 10:38 AM
Ah... ROTF Mixmaster. Will have to dig him out later. On second thoughts...

What a mess of a toy indeed. He does look pretty screen accurate in both modes. Well, from the front in robot mode. But he has a truck cab hanging off his bum! That is lazy given the mad complexity of the rest of the figure.

I gave one of these to a friend's kid back in 2009. When I was visiting a few weeks ago, my friend said to him 'Go get your Transformers, Chris will fix them.' Mixmaster was beyond fixing!

ROTF Leader Prime was also amongst the kid's Transformers needing help. I sorted him quickly, but I don't think he's got much play value for kids. Absolutely phenomenal figure for a collector though.

ROTF figures are largely beyond what kids can transform, let alone have fun with. I even think twice before getting Mixmaster out, because I know the frustration that will ensue, despite transforming him loads.

I think it's good that Hasbro have simplified Transformers since ROTF, but think they may have gone too far with AoE Generations (Leader Prime is quite sad, while Lockdown is a simplified version of DOTM Roadbuster and High Octane Bumblebee is a simplified version of his DOTM figure - yet they have higher age limits on the box). After all, it is meant to be the complex line, while there are plenty of simplified lines for kids alongside this. I do still prefer a Transformer I can pick up and have fun with that has compromises than one which has two great modes but needs time blocked out of your schedule to actually transform though.

Warcry
2014-08-07, 10:16 PM
Aww, I'm jealous of your white Prowl. Over here he came out as a black/ blue variant colour and its just far too dark!
I had the white version of Prowl as a kid (well, teen anyway) and never even knew the darker one existed. Now whenever I see pics of it, the black-and-blue Prowl just causes my brain to scream wrong and I don't know why. Other repaints from that era have the same impact on me, or at least Bump, Sandstorm and Double Punch, who are rececos of toys I owned as a kid. I don't understand it...repaints from any other era don't do that, but for some reason I just can't cope with some BW ones.

Beast Wars Scorponok
My first BW purchase (along with Inferno) and is now loose as hell. He's the toy counterpart for the Predacons of Polar Claw, with his launching Cyber Bee and tail slashy action (which works in robot mode too!). The gimmicks here work a lot better than on Polar Claw - which I put down to the choice of beast mode. The nice black and red colour palette is lovely too!
He was one of my first beasties, too! I don't have a very high opinion of him, because I found him very top-heavy and his joints (on mine at least) were too loose to do much posing. I do one day want to repair his broken tail, though.

Agreed about the gimmicks though, his were way more fitting than Polar Claw's.

I lavished praise on Insecticon a few pages back, so I won't do so again. Suffice it to say I think he's great. The original Cheetor has a certain charm to it too, in spite of being fairly primitive.

RTS Jazz
His paint job (or lack thereof, really) was a downer for me, but the mold is great and I love it after I painted the rims and grille.

Generations Wheeljack: Or possibly RTS. I still don't know why they did this.
They thought it'd help them get all the molds out before DOTM hit, not that it turned out to do much good since so many of them went straight to clearance/never showed up in some markets at all. I'm quite fond of the Wheeljack mold, as proven by how I own five of them (and really need to get around to painting them...)

Recently, I pulled out my video game toys...

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_CybertronianDecepticonsRobot_zps03c49fe4.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/CybertronianDecepticonsRobot_zps03c49fe4.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_CybertronianDecepticonsAlt_zpsa138124f.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/CybertronianDecepticonsAlt_zpsa138124f.jpg.html)

(Most of them, anyway...I seem to have disassembled Soundwave for some reason and can't be bothered to pull out that horribly complicated-to-transform Prime.)

I'm not a huge fan of the video game design style, to be honest, so I was surprised to find that I was actually pretty impressed by these guys once I put them all together in a group!

Shockwave is a really nice take on the design, and probably the closest to his original self. I do think he's too small, though, because he (unlike far too many modern Shockwaves) actually replicates the original's slender legs and arms. When he's taller than everyone, that makes him unconventional but imposing. When he's the same height as your average Autobot car, he just looks delicate. It's a shame that Grimlock and the tapedecks had the FoC Voyager slots locked down, because he would be improved immensely by being bigger (and, er, not using that odd gritty plastic). He's wonderfully poseable and looks cool, though, so I guess he can go menace some Cyberverse guys?

I actually do like Starscream, but he's a terrible Starscream. The design looks so little like his traditional character model that I couldn't tell who it's meant to be if you'd done him up in random non-seeker colours. And since all the other video game models are just beefier/spikier versions of the G1 designs, Starscream really doesn't work for me. He's got a cool transformation, good articulation and great accessories, though.

As much as Hasbro tell us "the video games are in Prime continuity", it's pretty clear that both the game designers and toy designers are referencing G1 and movie designs a lot more. One guy that fits in nicely with Prime stuff, though, is Kickback. He doesn't look like a G1 character at all, but his minimalist robot design and big, burly bug mode fit what was on the TV show quite well. I like the robot mode quite a bit, but insect mode has never worked for me. It's just a mess, doesn't really look like anything and doesn't do anything in spite of having lots of joints.

Brawl is a bit of a disaster, as others have chronicled in this thread already. Although I really liked his game design (which draws both from the G1 and Movie characters) and I really like how his tank mode turned out, but the robot mode with its huge backpack is pretty dire. I wish they'd made a version of him for the first game, so that they hadn't needed to worry about making him combine with anyone and could just concentrate on making a good Brawl.

Ratbat is adorable but essentially an ornament.

The real gem of the group, however, is Megatron. I like that he's an off-white instead of the flat grey that they often use, I love the freaking gigantic fusion cannon, and I love how the design melds the G1 and movie versions of the character into a nice, cohesive whole. He looks dangerous, threatening and imposing, just like a bad guy should. I like his alt-mode, too -- the design emphasizes the cannon, really playing up how powerful it is. The only thing I'm not sold on are the forearms, which transform awkwardly, have a strange angle to them and result in hands that aren't very useful.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_WFCMegs1_zpsfb73f230.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/WFCMegs1_zpsfb73f230.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_WFCMegs2_zpse743bb10.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/WFCMegs2_zpse743bb10.jpg.html)

Clay
2014-08-09, 06:16 PM
I'm not aware of another Transformer that has a face for a bum.

I can think of at least two more. The Legends class movie Mixmaster (http://tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/WMMixmaster/mixmaster.htm) has the entire Devastator head just hanging there, and Beast Wars Snapper (http://tfu.info/1996/Predacon/Snapper/snapper.htm) has a wee little turtle head poking out.

Surely we need to catalog these.

inflatable dalek
2014-08-10, 12:17 AM
Clay knows his bums.

Clay
2014-08-10, 01:27 AM
I am a fan :o

I dug out Stockade and Landmine from the first movie line. Stockade is fairly straightforward, with great big huge arms. He seems like a thug or body guard. Landmine is, of course, outstanding. Articulate! Detailed! Working shock absorbers! Skater feet! But more than that, these two (and Incinerator) represent a trend that one would have hoped would have continued through all the movie lines instead of dying out very quickly. They represent prominent vehicles from the first movie that weren't actually robots. Stockade is the SUV the Sector 7 guys use to pick up Megan Fox and others, and Landmine is the jeep thing the Sector 7 guys had at the dam. Contrast that with, say, Dark of the Moon, where not even every robot got a figure, let alone Sam's yellow junker or the other cars in the museum. It's a shame, really... they could have been neat.

Thunderwave
2014-08-10, 02:35 AM
I've got those guys as Gears and Armorhide. I wish in retrospect I had picked up Stockade when he was out, but I like the Gears ascetic enough. Supposedly for this movie thy are supposed to release a redeco of the Generation Skids mold as the rally car Lucky Charms drives. Personally I want one of those Cemetery Wind cars as a Transformer.

Two more, with photos!

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l117/Elkantor/80f2e25e-5e82-49a7-833d-c81c26f1c656.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Elkantor/media/80f2e25e-5e82-49a7-833d-c81c26f1c656.jpg.html)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l117/Elkantor/a05b32f3-3f64-4b69-b948-85219984f0f3.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Elkantor/media/a05b32f3-3f64-4b69-b948-85219984f0f3.jpg.html)

Cybertron Red Alert: Big, chunky, and with huuuuuge storage shins. I like the Robocop-esqe look of him. Plus he's got shoulder guns when you use a key! He's also got one of the strangest transformations I've seen with his legs being made of the front and back of his truck mode.

Cruellock: Rawr! I'm a wanna-be Godzillia! One of the things I liked about some of the basics is how absurd the robot modes are. Cruellock and Ravage obviously had robot modes just kind of tacked on.

Also, his weapons work well with Prime Dead End! Same shade of green as his windows and the pain on the blade is the same shade as the orange on Dead End.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l117/Elkantor/3a95a288-c45b-4e13-be1a-18c2a0c1a223.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Elkantor/media/3a95a288-c45b-4e13-be1a-18c2a0c1a223.jpg.html)

Blackjack
2014-08-10, 09:44 AM
DOTM is the only one who doesn't have any toys made from the on-screen vehicles, other than, I think, Air Raid... who himself was made from the mushroom-topped control airplane that directed the Scorponok battle from the first movie anyway.

The first movie's got Longarm (partly based on a game design as well), Landmine (who is freaking awesome), Stockade and Incinerator. Plus both Cybertron toy repaints Jetstorm and Wingblade are designed to resemble fighter jets from the movie.

ROTF's got Brawn, Stratosphere and Depth Charge, plus Seaspray and Breacher from the 2010 lines. IIRC Mindwipe's based on the F117 stealth jet briefly seen in the first movie's opening scene as well.

All the non-show toys from Movie and ROTF are either game tie-ins (Swindle, Payload, Longarm, Dreadwing, Dirt Boss) or rejected designs that look fairly similar to the movie aesthetic anyway (Wreckage, Arcee, Ransack, Depth Charge again etc)

AOE's got Rollbar (Lucky Charm's car), and the Cemetery Wind cars have toys as 'Vehicon' in the Robots in Disguise subline... but AOE doesn't have much non-show characters in the toyline beyond rejected Dinobots anyway.

The only non-movie-based toys from DOTM are Air Raid (based on first movie jet), Powerglide, Guzzle (G1 homages), Skyhammer and Flak (both randoms). EDIT: DOTM's got the Human Alliance toys which I totally forgot -- there's that one futuristic motorcycle based on the ROTF NEST cycles seen in Shanghai.

Clay
2014-08-10, 11:06 PM
I don't mind that FoC Bruticus doesn't exactly match the G1 design, as I understand he's meant to represent a Cybertronian version. And, the modes they gave them are not the usual copout that the 'Cybertronian' prefix usually tries to excuse. I have never seen any images from the game, let alone played it, so I don't have any issues about accuracy there either. (Perhaps this is one of the reasons the Prime figures are my favourite line ever - I have no idea what the show was like, but love the designs, although I am not seriously comparing the generally sublime Prime designs to Bruticus who is undoubtedly inferior to probably all of that line!)

Point taken on Onslaught though - he is a bit pants. I actually like Blast-Off's shoulders thought. Seem '80s to me. ;)

And I tend to have the limbs in the alternative arrangement as well. I like to have the cannon-shoulder thing going on. Gives Bruticus a shot against Omega Supreme (before Omega lifts him up and hurls him to oblivion of course).

Hmm. You might want to consider the Boosticus kit. It was made by a customizer over on the Radicon forum with a CAD program and prototyped and revised through Shapeways prints. Then, by popular demand, he contracted a third party manufacturer to have them produced en masse. It looks like this:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3738.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3738.jpg.html)http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3739.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3739.jpg.html)

And all the new parts connect together to make a trailer for Onslaught:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3741.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3741.jpg.html)http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3742.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3742.jpg.html)

Brawl benefits the most singly with some new heels:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3743.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3743.jpg.html)http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3744.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3744.jpg.html)

And a flamethrower attachment as seen in the game is included:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/th_IMG_3740.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_3740.jpg.html)

Obviously the combined mode is the biggest improvement since that was the general point of the project. In a roundabout way, it solves a lot of the problems of proportion by adding mass to Onslaught, essentially adding another size class's worth of stuff. I got the G2 version as that's the version of the FOC Combaticons I like best anyway, and am overall very pleased with the effect. It appears that you can polish crap into something worthwhile. :)

Unicron
2014-08-11, 10:15 AM
I remembered seeing you had that upgrade kit in one of the threads, been meaning to ask how good it ended up being. Sounds like it turned out well. Guess I'll have to try to snag one for my G2 set at somepoint, when I have the spare cash

ganon578
2014-08-11, 02:48 PM
Cybertron Red Alert: Big, chunky, and with huuuuuge storage shins. I like the Robocop-esqe look of him. Plus he's got shoulder guns when you use a key! He's also got one of the strangest transformations I've seen with his legs being made of the front and back of his truck mode.

I've got him as Classics (2007 Movie) Crankcase. As you said, good, chunky mold. I never thought about the odd transformation before, but you're right. The split legs are pretty interesting.

And the non-fist hand with the attachments reminds me of Roboto from He-Man. All good fun!

ROTF's got Brawn, Stratosphere and Depth Charge, plus Seaspray and Breacher from the 2010 lines. IIRC Mindwipe's based on the F117 stealth jet briefly seen in the first movie's opening scene as well.

All the non-show toys from Movie and ROTF are either game tie-ins (Swindle, Payload, Longarm, Dreadwing, Dirt Boss) or rejected designs that look fairly similar to the movie aesthetic anyway (Wreckage, Arcee, Ransack, Depth Charge again etc)

Seaspray is a good one. See below!

And Wreckage was pretty awesome too, but maybe that was just the artic camo.

Hmm. You might want to consider the Boosticus kit. It was made by a customizer over on the Radicon forum with a CAD program and prototyped and revised through Shapeways prints. Then, by popular demand, he contracted a third party manufacturer to have them produced en masse.

Wow. That upgrade kit makes Bruticus fairly awesome. That and the G2 designs. I already sold off my FoC Bruticus because it just wasn't that much fun to me. Chunky limbs here and there, spindly waist & thighs. All the individual toys were rather crap, IMO. The rainbow colors that didn't match the game or any other Bruticus offering didn't help either. Had the retail version came out looking like that kit, I would have kept him around.

And a few pics from me (see attached):

The above mentioned Seaspray from HFTD is a solid toy. He's even got ski feet, but at least they make sense on him - and the flippers are just fantastic! Boosting Seaspray up to the Voyager class really helped this figure. I never got Breacher to go with him though I saw him at stores quite a few times. For whatever reason, he just didn't click for me. Luckily, any small vehicles still work with him - even newer ones like Swerve!

That last photo attached is something I have been wanting to post on this thread for a while: updated versions of my small childhood collection of TF's (and a Gobot) from the late 80's, missing a few that I don't currently have (Powerglide, Guzzle, Tantrum, and a bunch of Gobots). I used to have the DOTM versions of Powerglide & Guzzle, but didn't really care for the toys much and now they're in someone else's collection. The other week I did a count of what I had as a kid and was surprised at the number of Gobots to Transformers I had - it was about even!

Anyways, quite a few of these guys have been mentioned here previously, but I have to give it up for Cyclonus, which is a fantastic Transformer. The alt mode is a bit holey on the back end, but I think it does a great job of looking like the original. And he's so jointed and balanced you can get him into fantastic positions. Another one I fancy is Grapple, which as a toy isn't that great. However, he was one that I absolutely loved as a kid, and the updated version is one of my faves. The giant crane arm is kind of a pain in the ass, and I wish they had given the option to peg it to his back somehow. A gun would have been helpful too. Even with his faults, I still thoroughly enjoy him. :D

Blackjack
2014-08-13, 12:48 AM
Hmm. You might want to consider the Boosticus kit. It was made by a customizer over on the Radicon forum with a CAD program and prototyped and revised through Shapeways prints. Then, by popular demand, he contracted a third party manufacturer to have them produced en masse.

A friend showed me the existence of this product which was what spurred me to buy the G2 Bruticus in the first place.

But, uh, thanks to shipping laws and import laws and stuff like that a lot of toys ordered online ended up getting stuck in the docks and with the toy import laws being all cuccoo back then I ended up cancelling the only third party product I really wanted.

It's a freaking shame, though, since if I had known the final Bruticus product won't look like, well, that, I wouldn't have bothered in the first place.

Warcry
2014-08-14, 05:29 AM
I've got him as Classics (2007 Movie) Crankcase. As you said, good, chunky mold. I never thought about the odd transformation before, but you're right. The split legs are pretty interesting.
I'm quite fond of Crankcase myself. His design isn't up to modern standards, but I love that they made him out of a toy that had a bit of a "pathetic" look to it to match the character. He's even got the Triggercon gimmick intact!

Another one I fancy is Grapple, which as a toy isn't that great.
...is that my old Grapple, or was it a different Archiver I shipped him off to? Either way I still think he's godawful, though I don't begrudge other people enjoying him one bit. :)

Anyways, quite a few of these guys have been mentioned here previously, but I have to give it up for Cyclonus, which is a fantastic Transformer. The alt mode is a bit holey on the back end, but I think it does a great job of looking like the original. And he's so jointed and balanced you can get him into fantastic positions.
Funny you should mention Cyclonus...

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_CyclonusScourgeRobot_zpsaabb53ee.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/CyclonusScourgeRobot_zpsaabb53ee.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_CylonusScourgeAlt_zps7edd735b.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/CylonusScourgeAlt_zps7edd735b.jpg.html)

He's great, obviously, but what I really want to do is talk about him and Scourge as a unit.

Pretty much everyone agrees that Universe Galvatron is awful, and I couldn't even be bothered to dig him out for pictures. Heck, I'm not even sure I still have him! But these two!

Cyclonus is a spot-on reproduction of his 80s design, leaning very close to the cartoon model but using colours closer to the toy. I love how that turned out, but I can see why others would prefer the brighter Takara or RTS versions of the toy. He's got great poseability and I love his alt-mode, though like ganon I wish his legs closed up better when they form his tail-section. He looks like death on wings, though. Nightstick is also great, and puts the recent Targetmasters who came with Scoop and the Legends to shame.

Scourge, on the other hand, is a total reinvention of the character. His alt-mode is a flying wing space bomber thing instead of a bathtub, and while they did the best they could to replicate his robot mode, the lines do change some because he doesn't have nearly as many excess parts to turn into his bat-wings. He's a very nice updating of the character though. I like his looks a bit better than Cyclonus, though Cyclonus wins hands down in the articulation department.

But the problem is that they don't match! At all! Not one little bit! One of them is a Targetmaster and the other isn't. One of them has a spot-on G1-accurate alt-mode, the other has a quasi-realistic Earth mode. One is a simple reproduction of the original design, the other is a modern updating of it. And these are two characters who (MTMTE aside) are practically never seen apart in fiction, so to me at least stuff like that matters!

In a perfect world, whoever designed Scourge would have been given a brief to design a toy that would match the already-existing Cyclonus -- Targetmaster and bathtub alt-mode included. It seems to be impossible to ask for any sort of consistency within thematic groups when it comes to the Generations line, though. Just look at the new Shrapnel and the upcoming Bombshell -- Hasbro apparently couldn't even be bothered to colour-match the paints and plastic used for two characters who are supposed to have the same scheme, released within a year of each other.

Blackjack
2014-08-14, 06:56 AM
Cyclonus and Scourge are awesome!

Galvatron has been banished to the back of the rack to the space that is "Between Bruticus' Legs", so Cyclonus and Scourge has to homage the Marvel UK comics and are hanging around Fall of Cybertron Shockwave. All three are secretly glad I don't pay attention enough to Marvel toys to buy a Death's Head.

Skyquake87
2014-08-14, 07:46 AM
I have RTS Cyclonus and I'm really torn on him. I like the robot mode and the Targetmaster, but the alt mode is just a mess. Cyclonus is supposed to be this sleek, vast aircraft thingy and instead we get this fat barrel shaped mess that's a jumble of split in half legs and pinned into position arms. It looks terrible. I also don't like that one of Cyclonus' hands is incapable of holding his weapon.

ganon578
2014-08-14, 02:18 PM
...is that my old Grapple, or was it a different Archiver I shipped him off to? Either way I still think he's godawful, though I don't begrudge other people enjoying him one bit. :)

It is! I still really dig him too, and I've fully accepted all of his faults. The power of nostalgia...

I can't even remember off-hand what I sent you in trade. RTS Tracks and something else? It was two deluxes I think. Apparently having two young children will destroy your memory.

I have RTS Cyclonus and I'm really torn on him. I like the robot mode and the Targetmaster, but the alt mode is just a mess. Cyclonus is supposed to be this sleek, vast aircraft thingy and instead we get this fat barrel shaped mess that's a jumble of split in half legs and pinned into position arms. It looks terrible. I also don't like that one of Cyclonus' hands is incapable of holding his weapon.

Never really thought much of it, but yeah, they could have easily had the other hand capable of holding Nightstick. Thanks a lot, now I'm ANGRY! :)

Warcry
2014-08-14, 05:23 PM
I have RTS Cyclonus and I'm really torn on him. I like the robot mode and the Targetmaster, but the alt mode is just a mess. Cyclonus is supposed to be this sleek, vast aircraft thingy and instead we get this fat barrel shaped mess that's a jumble of split in half legs and pinned into position arms. It looks terrible. I also don't like that one of Cyclonus' hands is incapable of holding his weapon.
I don't think he's that bad, honestly, but you're right that he's not as sleek as he could be. You'd probably need to wait for a Masterpiece Cyclonus to get one that fully captures the blade-edge sharpness that he had in the movie, since it's probably beyond what they could do with a Deluxe or even Voyager-sized toy.

It is! I still really dig him too, and I've fully accepted all of his faults. The power of nostalgia...

I can't even remember off-hand what I sent you in trade. RTS Tracks and something else? It was two deluxes I think. Apparently having two young children will destroy your memory.
It was RTS Jazz and WFC Soundwave in the end, I think, because all the Trackses had disappeared from your area. I've still got them both, though I can't remember if it was that Jazz that I repainted into Skram or if I kept that one and repainted the other one I found later on clearance.

Never really thought much of it, but yeah, they could have easily had the other hand capable of holding Nightstick. Thanks a lot, now I'm ANGRY! :)
Nightstick can dock to his wrist, though, if you leave the hand folded in. So it's still possible for him to double-wield, if you take advantage of that. I'm not a huge fan of how it's implemented, though, and I would have been happier with two useable fists.

Here are a few Basic/Scout-sized flyers I've always liked. All three of these guys fall into that category of "cannot stop transforming them", which means they're top-rate figures in my book.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_CyberjetsObsidianRobot_zps5b77ecef.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/CyberjetsObsidianRobot_zps5b77ecef.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_CyberjetsObsidianAlt_zpsadc71687.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/CyberjetsObsidianAlt_zpsadc71687.jpg.html)

I love Cyberjets. I wish I had more. Unfortunately, my old, well-loved Skyjack completely fell apart over a decade ago. And while I would have loved to buy up all of them even during the run of G2, I didn't have the chance because I didn't have much pocket money, and after I bought Skyjack (which was fairly late in the day, as young me prioritized the redecos of G1 figures over the generally superior new molds), by the time I had enough money saved up the only Cyberjets I could find in stores were more Skyjacks.

So when they released them as part of the old Universe line, I was over the moon! I never did find Space Case, who was bundled in with a redeco of Stalker in a later Ultra wave that never came out here, but I hunted all over for the Air Raid/Wind Sheer two-pack. I still remember finding them at Zellers and being all giddy (a shame what happened to the place in the end, because it used to be one of my favourite toy-hunting grounds in the early 2000s).

Air Raid is a redeco of Skyjack, which automatically earns him some points in my books. But even ignoring that, he's a really good little toy. The mold's fully ball-jointed limbs were a revelation back in the day and he still stands up as one of the most poseable little toys I own. The blue/maroon/red/grey colour scheme is really nice. His alt-mode doesn't hold up quite as well as I remember, though, since his legs are so prominent below it. They are at least angled and given thrusters so they kinda-sorta look like part of the plane, though.

Wind Sheer is fun, and the thinner profile of his jet translates to a better disguise and improves his range of motion in robot mode. The grey/purple/maroon also works nice, and makes him the prettiest Cyberjet in my opinion. I also love how he's based in a variant of the F-22 that was never actually produced, which makes him feel like a bit of a historical relic. He doesn't balance quite so well as Air Raid, though, and standing him in robot mode is a bit of a challenge.

The softer, kinda rubbery plastic that these two use for their maroon parts was a bummer for lots of people, but not me. My Skyjack broke in a few spots where hard plastic now meets soft, and the durability of the figures probably took a big leap upwards because of the new materials. What I won't forgive so easily are the missiles, which are an ugly neon yellow-green that clashes so totally with both toys that I didn't even bother to pull them out for the pictures.

And then there's Beast Machines Obsidian. A lot of people don't like him because, like many BM toys, he's not even approximately show-accurate. But the BM characters as animated looked terrible, so in my books this is a good thing. The two-tone green with blue and orange highlights looks great, and both modes work so well I can't decide which I like better -- they both have lots of personality. The tilt-rotor helicopter is a nice, reasonably unique alt-mode, too, which helps him stand out from the crowd of flyers. He's also got a really nice automorph that works better than most of the movie ones a decade later. I do wish that his legs did a bit more in his robot "flight" mode than just press together into a mermaid tail, though.

Blackjack
2014-08-15, 03:12 PM
So when they released them as part of the old Universe line, I was over the moon! I never did find Space Case, who was bundled in with a redeco of Stalker in a later Ultra wave that never came out here

This is time for me to segue in... with Universe Space Case!

http://tfarchive.com/_temp/blackjack/oldtoys1.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/_temp/blackjack/oldtoys2.jpg

Ha! I found Space Case around one or two years ago -- a collector friend of mine wanted the Stalker-Soundwave, but didn't want the Space Case so I took it off him... and it's a good thing I did, because Space Case is awesome! I don't think I like this more 'realistic' paint job compared to the original, spiderwebbed G2 scheme... but it's a pretty solid toy all around, and I love him.

Space Case also comes with the horrid neon green weapons that came with Warcry's Cyberjets. My Space Case holds them like clubs because Space Case is a dumb thug.

He hangs out in my collection with fellow late-G1 dumb thug jet, Terradive. They are like a pair of dumb thugs with visor-faces separated from the rest of their team. So they hang out. Terradive is a toy I bought second-hand alongside my junker G1 Crosshairs, and it took around two days to fully clean the layers of dust caking them. Stupid vintage toys! Terradive is a lot less fun than Space Case... he's hardly articulated, though really all G1 toys are, but he's so kibbly -- his jet butt sticks down lower than his feet, transforming him ends up causing his legs and arms to sort of try and occupy the same space and I'm not a big fan of how his arms are joined to his body.

Still, I still like the two of them. They're grand.

http://tfarchive.com/_temp/blackjack/oldtoys3.jpg
http://tfarchive.com/_temp/blackjack/oldtoys4.jpg

Also on my desk are my Reissue Insecticons, sans stickers... I hunted the G1 Insecticons for close to three years before stumbling upon these dudes, and I couldn't be happier -- screw stickers! The three of them are really fun little toys with really great-looking faces and aesthetics, and surprisingly pretty articulated for early G1 toys. The three of them, plus G1 Swerve, Tailgate, Pipes, Frenzy and Rumble (which you can't see in this picture but are over to the right), have never really left my table because I like them so much.

They're awesome. 'nuff said.

And then there's Beast Machines Obsidian. A lot of people don't like him because, like many BM toys, he's not even approximately show-accurate. But the BM characters as animated looked terrible, so in my books this is a good thing.

Hey now, don't be talking trash about animated Obsidian! Obsidian is the only character in the Beast Machines cartoon that flat-out looked cool. I do like Tankor and Thrust too after a fashion, but Obsidian is the one that screams out 'AWESOME'.

Though his toy is indeed awesome! I would certainly own one, either in the original green deco or the more show-accurate Takara one (which I bet costs as much as a kidney in the secondary market)

Tripredacus
2014-08-15, 05:54 PM
Oh Insecticons, my favorite. Actually Kickback is probably my favorite, it was the one I had when I was a kid.

Warcry
2014-08-15, 07:18 PM
The Insecticons do indeed rock. I think they might be my favourite G1 subgroup. I'm a sucker for teams with uniform colours and design styles, and as much as I like the Constructicons and Seacons they can't quite match the bugs' cool black, purple, silver and yellow layouts.

(Dinobots are cool too but I've never owned more than one of the orginals at a time.)

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_WindchargerBumblebeeBrakedownRobot_zps45c7b926.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/WindchargerBumblebeeBrakedownRobot_zps45c7b926.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_WindchargerBumblebeeBrakedownAlt_zps5042b4fe.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/WindchargerBumblebeeBrakedownAlt_zps5042b4fe.jpg.html)

So, here we have RTS Windcharger. Anyone remember him? He was 2011's "impossible to find" toy, scalped to high heaven to the point where Windchargers were practically a currency among the fandom for six months or so. But in all of that there was very little discussion of the little guy's merits or lack thereof as a toy. And for good reason, I suppose...nobody wanted to admit that the little guy they spent $40 on was actually just sorta middle-of-the-road. He's not bad at all, and I like him, but he's definitely outdone by contemporaries like Breacher and Hubcap in terms of look, transformation and poseability. He's not a great likeness to the character either, head aside, though truth be told I care so little about Windcharger that I barely remember what he looks like.

Classics Bumblebee, on the other hand, legitimately is something special. A slick transformation and a neat robot mode more than make up for a car mode that is pretty generic. This mold's awesomeness is nicely illustrated by the fact that MP Bumblebee is basically the same thing with cosmetic improvements and a couple more joints. Compared to the other Classics molds, all of which show their age in one way or another, this one was quite a bit ahead if its' time. Of course, mine is showing its age...the spoiler is missing (I think I removed it after the paint started scraping off), the windshield is cracked and I have no idea where the little jetski thing went. But in spite of that he's still a favourite.

And then there's ROTF Brakedown, who I've always had a soft spot for. He's a nice Moviefied version of the Stunticon, down to being a Fake Lamborghini. He's not a nice look in robot mode, with long arms and lightweight legs that make him look like a speedy little guy who darts around the battlefield causing trouble. But he's hurt by a problem that has plagued many movie toys -- tiny feet that are hard to stand him up on. His huge backpack doesn't help on that score either.

Skyquake87
2014-08-16, 08:26 PM
Ah, ROTF Brakedown, a fine wee Scout toy indeed. Recolour Oil Pan was strangely terrible though.

Jetfire
Seeing the new Generatins toy in the flesh at AA this year made me realise how still bloody amazing the original is. And of course, its great because it doesn't originate with Takara :P Great alt mode, nice robot and clip armour stuff and a right big gun. Awesome. And one day, I will figure out exactly how the gun clip works and where its supposed to go. Oh yes.

Reissue Red Alert
From Hasbro's Commemorative Series. I was so pleased with all the reissue frenzy ten years or so ago. It was just ace to be able to pick up toys I'd wanted as a young 'un again. And this cheesecake on wheels is one of my absolute favourites. He's just great.

Powerlinx Armada Red Alert
Lovely 4x4 vehicle mode, lovely Robocop looking robot mode with interchangeable medical doohickies and all kinds of mad pop out weapons and stuff. But that's not the best bit, oh no! He has the best sound chip stuff ever -there is nothing that can beat the simple joy of hearing "RED ALERT! WOO WOO WOO!"

Prime Starscream
Okay, I was bitterly disappointed he ended up as a crude cipher of the original in the TV show, but his toy is sexy as f**k. All lithe and streamlined with a nice balance of colours. Just a shame Hasbro gave him a totally crap Mech Tech weapon

Beast Wars Tripredacus
I love love love this combiner. Its so bloody complicated and so good all at the same time. The individual robots are great, the bug modes are great and then they come together for this lumbering insectoid horror. Fantastic! See Hasbro this is how you do Gestalts and make them ace!

numbat
2014-08-17, 09:01 AM
I really love RTS Windcharger. He was a shelfwarmer in Tesco in Scotland. Those were the days - RTS was the last 'Generations' line you could get in any store.

PRID Voyager Starscream is also awesome - I prefer him to the overly complex FE Deluxe.

Thunderwave
2014-08-17, 09:19 AM
So, here we have RTS Windcharger. Anyone remember him? He was 2011's "impossible to find" toy, scalped to high heaven to the point where Windchargers were practically a currency among the fandom for six months or so. But in all of that there was very little discussion of the little guy's merits or lack thereof as a toy. And for good reason, I suppose...nobody wanted to admit that the little guy they spent $40 on was actually just sorta middle-of-the-road. He's not bad at all, and I like him, but he's definitely outdone by contemporaries like Breacher and Hubcap in terms of look, transformation and poseability. He's not a great likeness to the character either, head aside, though truth be told I care so little about Windcharger that I barely remember what he looks like.

This. He's not bad, but he's not really great either, but he's likable. Mine only cost me $5 and 10 minutes in line on Black Friday at a 5 Below, so he's well worth the cost.

Warcry
2014-08-20, 05:14 AM
Reissue Red Alert
From Hasbro's Commemorative Series. I was so pleased with all the reissue frenzy ten years or so ago. It was just ace to be able to pick up toys I'd wanted as a young 'un again. And this cheesecake on wheels is one of my absolute favourites. He's just great.
I miss the TRU reissues. It was so awesome to be able to walk into a brick and mortar store in 2003 and buy a brand new version of a two decade old toy from my childhood. And of the ones I got, I think Red Alert might just be my favourite.

And speaking of G1 molds, here are my Targetmasters!

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_TargetmastersRobot_zpsfaa91498.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/TargetmastersRobot_zpsfaa91498.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_TargetmastersAlt_zps1f049f44.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/TargetmastersAlt_zps1f049f44.jpg.html)

Not pictured are Misfire, Sureshot, Aimless and Spoilsport -- the first two were casualties of war, the third is lost somewhere the the ductwork of my parents' house and the fourth found a new home with an intact Sureshot owned by a fellow Archiver.

Hot Rod isn't exactly his old self, either. He was without a doubt my favourite toy as a child, and thus got very thoroughly destroyed by a decade or so of rough play. By the end of it his windshield/spoiler section was broken off, his legs were too weak to hold his weight and the hinges for his head and chest were cracked. Those of you with sharp eyes will see that none of those things ail the Hot Rod in the picture, and if you've got really sharp eyes you'll notice the metal toes and foil stickers that mark him as the Toys'R'Us Reissue. But since my Classics Rodimus has stolen his guns (and frankly looks way better with them), I did some parts-swapping with my ruined old Hot Rod and the reissue can now wield my old Firebolt. Under close inspection you'll notice that the plastic and chrome colours on his forearms don't quite match, but considering those parts are 20 years older than the rest of him I'd say it's pretty close.

I've always loved Hot Rod, and even setting aside the powers of nostalgia I can't think of many Autobots from the movie on that look better than him. His alt-mode is especially slick, and over the years I've come to like its sharp, aerodynamic lines more than the curvy, organic vehicle we saw on the cartoon.

Quickmix likewise is a new incarnation of a toy I had as a kid. In his case, though, there's nothing left of the original but the Targetmasters. The core robot was really messed up, with a missing wheel and a head/mixing drum that no longer transformed. So when I saw one in good shape with no guns for $10 on an online store, I jumped at the chance to put together a fully-functional Quickmix once more. I'm not sure he's actually any good, since he's a very simplified toy whose only joints are awkwardly-placed and whose colour scheme isn't that inspiring. But I had one as a kid, so he's not going anywhere.

Crosshairs, Kup and Scoop, on the other hand, all managed to survive young me's wrath more or less intact. Kup has some paint missing on his chest and the bed of his truck mode is gone, while Crosshairs' knee ratchets don't really want to hold up his weight anymore. Scoop is basically immaculate, somehow, and I can't think of a better-preserved toy I still own from my childhood. None of them are anything to write home about, IMO, though Crosshairs' colours are really nice.

Triggerhappy is bloody gigantic! I don't think I've ever lined up my Targetmasters like this before because I didn't realize how much bigger he was than Crosshairs, Hot Rod and Kup. A quick image search indicates that Misfire was just as titanic, but I have no memory of him being that much bigger than the others. Regardless, Triggerhappy is a great toy for his era, with something approaching Armada levels of articulation (shoulders, elbows, hips, knees). He's also a Targetmaster in name only, because I got mine dirt cheap off of eBay a decade ago and he didn't come with Blowpipe. But his jet mode is gorgeous, so I forgive him.

Then there's Spinister. Those who know me know that he's basically my favourite Transformer character ever, so it's no surprise that he's my favourite toy of this bunch. He's not actually any good, though. His monopod legs and hilariously stumpy arms make him look silly when he's not holding his Targetmasters, and he represents a huge step back from the more advanced engineering of the 1986 Decepticon Targetmasters like Triggerhappy. I don't care about any of that though, because his colours are awesome and they make the whole package shine in both modes. Most of you probably won't agree, but that's okay. You're allowed to be wrong. :)

ganon578
2014-08-20, 02:27 PM
Funny thing is, most of the figures you just posted I have only acquired in some updated form or another in the past few years (I no longer have any G1 figures):

Classics Hot Rod I got back in '06-'07 when I got back into collecting. My version's not a Targetmaster, obviously, but fun all the same.

Kup is chronologically the next in line in my collection, the 2011 Generations version. Also a fun one, and I like the musket he comes with. It's a shame he didn't come with a Targetmaster like Cyclonus did though.

Scoop was a recent pickup as well, and until I saw your picture up there, I didn't realize how bland the yellow on the Generations one really is. I know you mentioned it before, and even posted your paint updating on the Gen version, it just hadn't struck me until now. Thanks a lot, now mine looks dull. ;) That said, the updated one is a fairly good representation of the character.

Crosshairs I picked up after AoE, but the one I have is a totally different version than yours. Nothing against the G1 version, but I like my green paratrooper better. :D

And lastly, Spinister. Just got this one a few weeks ago with Generations Nemesis Prime. Practically a mini-con this time around (in a twist of irony) the colors are close, but all of the functionality falls flat. He's OK as an add-in, but I'm sure you're miffed he didn't get a better treatment being as big a fan of him as you are. I suppose there's always the Botcon one you can pay through the nose for. :down:

Denyer
2014-08-20, 07:10 PM
My version's not a Targetmaster, obviously

http://wikialpha.org/wiki/Sidearm_(FansProject) ?

ganon578
2014-08-21, 05:04 PM
http://wikialpha.org/wiki/Sidearm_(FansProject) ?

Nice. Don't know if I'd invest the money though. It's always tough for me to justify investing more money for an add-on that's more expensive than the Hot Rod I bought.

Though I probably piss away $30 easily on random other purchases.

Denyer
2014-08-21, 05:44 PM
Leave an eBay search open on it for a while. Definitely didn't pay that much.

I might end up with a spare shortly -- will let you know if I do.

ganon578
2014-08-21, 06:10 PM
Leave an eBay search open on it for a while. Definitely didn't pay that much.

I might end up with a spare shortly -- will let you know if I do.

Sweet. Thanks!

Warcry
2014-08-22, 05:41 AM
Since we're talking Classics Rodimus...

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_ClassicsRodimusRobot_zps82a37b9c.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/ClassicsRodimusRobot_zps82a37b9c.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_ClassicsRodimusAlt_zps121ee0f5.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/ClassicsRodimusAlt_zps121ee0f5.jpg.html)

I'm quite fond of him! I think he looks best with G1 Hot Rod's guns, personally, and have never been able to get behind either the gun he came with or the third-party replacements. I know a lot of people aren't fond of this toy anymore, and it does show its age (especially around the shoulders) but I'm a big fan of the look. It reminds me a lot of G2 comic art, for whatever reason. And the alt-mode is just inspired. Giving Hot Rod an Earth mode was a bit of a head-scratcher for me initially, but making it an obscure old super-car makes perfect sense. It's exactly what Hot Rod would do, "blending in" while still standing out.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_G1GroupRobot_zps582905d3.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/G1GroupRobot_zps582905d3.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_G1GroupAlt_zps37416944.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/G1GroupAlt_zps37416944.jpg.html)

And here's some more G1 guys.

(Disregard Spinister, I talked about him in my last post.)

Afterburner is another childhood toy that's been rebuilt basically from scratch.

...

Wait. There's actually two Afterburners in that picture. And that last paragraph applies to both of them.

Let's start with the Technobot! My original snapped apart at the waist and shoulders. All I had left of him, actually, were the guns. I ended up buying him on eBay about a decade ago, without accessories, and getting one that was practically brand new! I'm a big fan of his alt-mode, and robot mode looks cool too though I'll be the first to admit it doesn't really do anything.

Jet Afterburner wasn't quite as bad off. But mine was loose, missing part of his tailfin and with a damaged wing, no stickers and a chewed cockpit. So when I saw one for a couple bucks in a second-hand store, I jumped on it. It was missing both forearms and the gun, but the ones from my original were still serviceable so a few part-swaps later and I've got an Afterburner that's almost as good as new again! His robot mode is cool, a nice little "mini-seeker", and I'm a big fan of his F-104 jet mode (something we don't see very often in the Transformers line).

First Aid has always been a favourite character though if you pressed me I'd be unable to tell you why. But I always wanted one. When I bought my new (Technobot) Afterburner, I also put in the minimum bid on this guy and wound up getting him for the princely sum of $1. For that price I can't complain. He's a bit worn (okay, a lot worn) but I still think he looks good. His robot mode, with the two contrasting shades of red, makes him one of my favourite combiner limbs.

Sparkstalker is actually a recent acquisition, since I bought him at the local comic-con last year. As such he doesn't really belong in this thread, but since he's basically identical to the Flamefeather I had as a kid I'll make an exception. The Firecon design is quite possibly the simplest Transformer I've ever owned. The robot modes are awful, but I've always had a soft spot for them because their beast modes are pretty cool. And out of the six or seven different colour schemes they've been put out in over the years, Sparkstalker here is my favourite. Sadly he doesn't spit fire anymore, but I think you can say the same for 90% of these old sparkler toys.

Skyquake87
2014-08-22, 07:50 AM
I like Classics Rodimus too. He's really slick and a nice update of the slightly clunky G1 toy.

The Technobot Afterburner is a cool wee toy. Computron might be a clumsy mess, but I always liked the individual bots. Well except Lightspeed, he's a bit rubbish next to the others, the poor guy.

First Aid! I love First Aid's awesome voice in the cartoon... "Dr Morgan, you're daughter's legs were paralysed in the accident. This exoskeleton will enable her to move about." Brilliant.

Blackjack
2014-08-22, 02:27 PM
I don't have pictures, but I have three different Crosshairs: G1, Movie and AoE, hanging around in my desk. AoE Crosshairs is fairly recent, and Warcry covered G1 Crosshairs: nothing particularly spectacular and my junker Crosshairs have certainly been well-loved by whoever had him as a kid before leaving him to accumulate like three inches of dust, but once I cleaned him up and recently given him B.2. the Arms Micron as a Targetmaster gun, he looks pretty great! G1 Crosshairs has got a solid robot and alternate mode, though does not much else.

Movie Crosshairs, I've recently rewritten my old review (http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/mov_crosshairs.php) for him, and while he's an Outback-inspired repaint of an Energon toy, he's one of the more solid toys I own. His personality is basically G1 Crosshairs, though little me didn't know this. All I thought is that he's a fun dude who's in charge of weapons but won't let everyone check them out without forms! In triplicate, damn it! Weapons are dangerous stuff! A combination of being a cool little mould and a cool paint scheme, plus the pretty awesome bio, made Crosshairs hang around the 2007 Movie's show characters as one of the major players of my childhood, forming a duo alongside Movie Air Raid.

Air Raid (http://tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/mov_airraid.php)'s another fun toy, and I won't really repeat myself -- I liked him a lot less as a toy as the years go by, seeing all the things that's wrong with him, but Crosshairs and Air Raid, despite being nobodies, mean a lot to me as toys I've played with when I was younger. Being, you know, solid little dudes in general helps a lot. I mean, seven years might not be as epic as 'oh, I played with these toys G1 thirty years ago' but these toys are the guys that hold the most nostalgia for me.

I'm a big fan of the look.

I do really like Classics Rodimus. Both the classics toys for both Rodimus and Mirage have completely supplanted their original G1 toys as far as alternate modes go, being far cooler and far more suitable than the original ones in my head.

Not quite such a big fan of his robot mode with its blocky arms and legs, but I still like Rodimus quite a lot. He won't win any 'best toy' awards, but 'best looking car'? He can easily win that.

There's actually two Afterburners in that picture. And that last paragraph applies to both of them.

:lol:

Pretty sure I like the Skyscorcher Afterburner better, but then I'm always a bigger fan of little jet Decepticons. Though combiner limbs... someday I'll hunt all of them down and catch 'em all.

Warcry
2014-08-22, 10:30 PM
I didn't even type that on purpose, I just started going on about Afterburner until I realized even I wasn't sure which one I was talking about.

I keep saying I'm going to collect all the combiners, but have never actually bothered to try and do so with any team other than the Terrorcons. I suppose I should at least get a new Slingshot for my G2 Superion (I suspect painting the original gold would be a better choice than trying to combine the ultra-fragile G2 version...I know where that leads). And I've always loved the Technobots (Skyquake is on crack though, Lightspeed is awesome! Always loved his car mode.)

In the meantime...more beasties!

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_ArmordilloPredaconLonghornRobot_zps6365b9ff.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/ArmordilloPredaconLonghornRobot_zps6365b9ff.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_ArmordilloPredaconLonghornAlt_zpse4766fd7.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/ArmordilloPredaconLonghornAlt_zpse4766fd7.jpg.html)

For the fifth time this week, a toy that incorporates parts of one of my childhood figures! Armordillo was actually one of the last ones I got as a kid, and he really wasn't in very bad shape. But I got one bundled together with a BW Razorclaw that I wanted that was in slightly better shape, but missing parts. So the new one got the accessories and tail from mine, and I passed my old, somewhat worn version on to someone else. He's not the greatest figure, owing to his silly robot arms and awkward accessories, but he's decently poseable and his beast mode is cool-looking. I'm not the hugest fan of the early flip-changers, but he certainly blows the similarly-engineered Snapper out of the water.

Longhorn is my second-favourite Beast Machines Maximal mold, but that's not saying much. He's not terrible, though! His beast mode is definitely cool, which in and of itself puts him a ways above most of his peers. In fact, colours aside it wouldn't be out of place in the early Beast Wars line. And the same, more or less, holds true with his robot mode. He's got weird arms and gigantic funky horns, but is that so far off from mouth-missiles or wing-fingers? I do like to mess around with him in beast mode, at least, and he's a fair bit of fun.

Anyone who's been here for a while has probably heard me rave about Armada Predacon before. For those of you that haven't, he's basically my favourite beast toy (in a close tie with a few others). The mold is great, with a good mix of play features and articulation. He looks great in both modes, and I definitely prefer the earthy Armada colours to the shiny BW ones even before you take the original's durability problems into account.

Blackjack
2014-08-23, 01:59 PM
Longhorn is my second-favourite Beast Machines Maximal mold, but that's not saying much. He's not terrible, though! His beast mode is definitely cool, which in and of itself puts him a ways above most of his peers. In fact, colours aside it wouldn't be out of place in the early Beast Wars line. And the same, more or less, holds true with his robot mode. He's got weird arms and gigantic funky horns, but is that so far off from mouth-missiles or wing-fingers? I do like to mess around with him in beast mode, at least, and he's a fair bit of fun.

I bought Longhorn thanks to you, and he's a bit of a wet blanket compared to the rest of my beast collection. He's easily my best Beast Machines toy -- which considering his competition are Geckobot and ultra class Tankor, isn't really saying much.

I do quite like him, despite him being a bit awkward-looking. I think he would've been benefitted just eliminating the aqua-blue clear plastic entirely, or actually painting the side we see in robot mode instead of the other one. He is a pretty solid toy, just suffers from the same problem with Powerpinch that he's solid and not much else makes him memorable. I do really like his bull mode, and his robot mode has this tribal chief aura to him.

His 'weird hands' in robot mode aren't weird hands at all -- they are supposed to be static scythe weapons. His robot fists are where the bull 'elbows' are, and the bull's lower legs are the weapons. I found this funky.

Warcry
2014-08-27, 06:07 PM
Yeah, I know. But hands with weapons permanently molded into them are still weird in my books. :)

The paint being on the wrong side of the aqua plastic has got to be a mistake, surely? It never made much sense to me.

Here are a few of my favourite Classics/Generations-type toys:

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_SideswipeGrimlockStraxusRobot_zpsefc03935.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/SideswipeGrimlockStraxusRobot_zpsefc03935.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_SideswipeGrimlockStraxusAlt_zpsb55ec69d.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/SideswipeGrimlockStraxusAlt_zpsb55ec69d.jpg.html)

I could have chosen any of the three Lambos really, but Sideswipe was closest to hand. I think he's my favourite of the three, honestly, but only by a hair. I love this mold and its ability to neatly represent the very different Sideswipe and Sunstreaker robot modes. Hasbro talked a bit around this time about purposefully engineering more molds to do that, and I was intrigued by the idea, but the only other one to even attempt this was the later Tracks/Wheeljack mold (which doesn't work nearly as seamlessly). The car mode is a gorgeous pseudo-Lamborghini, incorporating design element of a few of their cars and looking very much like something they might have made in the future. The "Sunstreaker" roof-engine accessory looks a bit silly on it, and I've omitted it from all of mine bar Sunstreaker himself, but the car itself has really nice, sleek lines without it. The robot mode is equally cool. It's got lots of joints, minimal kibble and poses really well. I'm not a huge fan of the tiny gun it comes with, though, so I've equipped all of mine with bigger, badder guns (this, I find, was a failing of a lot of toys in the Universe era). But overall I think it's great. It doesn't have the nostalgic, blocky look that the MP pulls off so nicely, but as toys or display pieces I don't think there's much of a drop-off at all between the MP and Universe molds.

And as long as we're comparing Classics figures to MPs, it's hard not to talk about Grimlock. While the MP is a spot-on reproduction of his 80s character model, the Classics toy didn't even try to look like the TV show/comic character. Indeed, his beast mode is updated to a scientifically-accurate pose while his robot design and transformation both call back to the smaller, vastly less-popular Pretender Grimlock figure from the late 80s. Most fans are understandably put off by that, especially after the much more accurate MP was released. But I grew up with Pretender Grimlock, so I'm actually a big fan of this toy. The tail-gun and bayoneted missile launcher in particular call back to some of my favourite features on the old toy. It does have its flaws, though, including moving parts that don't lock properly and articulation that isn't particularly good in robot mode. On the other hand, the beast mode looks like it walked right out of the G2 comics and I've always really liked that look. Overall, though, he's not one of the better toys in the range.

Straxus still causes a "wait, they didn't really make this, did they?" reaction whenever I see it. The robot mode isn't entirely accurate to the comic design, but then the comic design was a throwaway guest star that didn't have much in the way of detail. It does a good job of capturing the important bits, though: his head design, his bulk and his signature weapon. He's got better poseability than most, a transformation scheme that I'd never seen before and an alt-mode that, though nowhere near the flying gun we saw in the comics, is very fitting. This guy is still one of my favourite figures ever, and I'm a huge fan of his redeco Skullgrin as well.

Blackjack
2014-08-28, 04:30 AM
(Longhorn would've looked so much better with the paint done properly -- it would be painted clear plastic instead of just a random swathe of clear blue)

My Straxus's hip ball joints gone really loose now! :( He can barely stand without leaning to the Galvatron toy behind him, so at least Galvatron's good for something.

Classics Grimlock has been one of my all-time favourite toys... I'm not a big fan of his big robot fists or his rather weak robot legs, but his dinosaur mode? Pure awesomeness. I've always preferred predator scientifically-accurate T-Rexes than Grimlock's godzilla alternate mode, so I've always loved Grimlock -- he's currently being posed next to Age of Extinction Scorn, Slug and Strafe with Optimus Prime the Kre-O riding him.

I've always thought Sideswipe's hood-chest looked too... curvy for Sideswipe. The mould works better as Sunstreaker, but the shade of yellow they used for Sunstreaker and the general lack of detail compared to Sideswipe's more gorgeous black stripes on his sides, always made me prefer Sideswipe over Sunny. (I think I've displaced both their guns -- Sideswipe and Sunstreaker are both holding PCC Minicons in weapon mode.)

Skyquake87
2014-08-29, 08:16 PM
I thought the Classics Grimlock mould didn't work for Grimlock (I didn't pick up on the Pretender thing at all...even though its really obvious when you look at him) , works a treat for Overkill though (nicer colours)

And speaking of Dinobots...

Why not, the Dinobots! The G1 bruisers are magnificent toys. Oddly, Grimlock with his big golden chest seems a little out of place next to his red chested troops (this is probably deliberate). I love that they come with a ton of silly shooty gun things, swords, pistols, rifles and also turn into big robotic dinosaurs! Hooray. Snarl and Sludge are my favourites.

I don't play with them much because they feel stupidly fragile, despite their diecast, but I does love them. Even little Swoop :)

Warcry
2014-09-08, 05:46 PM
Are those the real thing, or the recent Asian bootlegs? They look like they're in pretty good shape regardless.

I've only owned Slag and Snarl, and not at the same time, so I've never gotten the full impact of the group. They're a cool team, though. I'd love to own them all but barring reissues the price is prohibitive.

Oh, and if we're going to post whole G1 subgroups...

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_Insecticons_robot_zpsebf0a758.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/Insecticons_robot_zpsebf0a758.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_Insecticons_alt_zps5d942483.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/Insecticons_alt_zps5d942483.jpg.html)

I've always loved the Insecticons. My cousins had Kickback (I think...maybe Shrapnel) when I was a kid, and the figure's colours always grabbed me. Of course this was in 1990 or something, so I never had a chance to own them myself back in the day.

I grabbed the Hasbro reissues like mad when they came out...five years ago? I wasn't very impressed initially though, because their stickers were terrible and half of them fell off almost immediately. A set of Reprolabels later, though, and I think they're great! All three of them have a nice look, and (like the Dinobots above) I think they're a group that really works best when you've got them all together. The black, purple, orange and silver colour scheme works great, and I love the oh-so-80s designs of the alt-modes.

Kickback has the nicest robot mode, IMO, and Shrapnel is my favourite in bug mode. Bombshell tends to be overshadowed a bit by his IMO far better brethren, but they work best as a trio so I think there'll always be a place for him in my display.

ganon578
2014-09-08, 06:44 PM
Straxus still causes a "wait, they didn't really make this, did they?" reaction whenever I see it. The robot mode isn't entirely accurate to the comic design, but then the comic design was a throwaway guest star that didn't have much in the way of detail. It does a good job of capturing the important bits, though: his head design, his bulk and his signature weapon. He's got better poseability than most, a transformation scheme that I'd never seen before and an alt-mode that, though nowhere near the flying gun we saw in the comics, is very fitting. This guy is still one of my favourite figures ever, and I'm a huge fan of his redeco Skullgrin as well.

I got rid of my Straxus a while back, for two reasons:

1) Having never read any of the comics, I had no connection whatsoever to the character. Bought him on a whim since he looked neat, and all the descriptions on TFWiki made him seem like a decent villain. And I needed to boost my Decepticon ranks. Didn't think he was all that special to keep as time pressed on.

2) The figure I had featured some really weak/loose ankles. No matter what I did I had to balance the heck out of him to get him to stand on his own. The figure design seemed well weight-distributed, but he would never stand right, so I couldn't put him into cool action poses. Just stood there like a statue, slightly tilted to the front to keep him up. Drove me nuts.

Skyquake87
2014-09-08, 08:49 PM
Are those the real thing, or the recent Asian bootlegs? They look like they're in pretty good shape regardless.

They are customs of a sort, they have been built from a bunch of junkers, given a new lick of paint and some repro labels. I bought them off a soldier :swirly:

I also loves the Insecticons. I bought a couple of E-Hobby drones to go with my lovely TFC reissues.

Tra la la

numbat
2014-09-08, 08:56 PM
They are customs of a sort, they have been built from a bunch of junkers, given a new lick of paint and some repro labels. I bought them off a soldier :swirly:

I also loves the Insecticons. I bought a couple of E-Hobby drones to go with my lovely TFC reissues.

Tra la la
Yeah, the Insecticons rock. I had the E-Hobby drones too, until I cleared out most of my G1 figures (other than Minibots). They're great for nostalgia, but really don't do it for me anymore in the flesh. I'm just too easily bored I guess...

Although I am still tempted to get hold of a Fort Max... The holy grail (and unattainable as it was never released in the UK) figure of my childhood. That said, Sixshot fits the same bill. I'd love updated versions of both really, so will be keeping an eye out for the new MMC Sixshot, and have ordered PE Warden. I'd still like a Citybot Fort Max though. Generations Metroplex is amazingly amazing, but an updated Fort Max would be something else!

Skyquake87
2014-09-08, 09:11 PM
I have the RiD Brave Max (the cheapy Sonokong Korean version with his upside down Autobot insignia) and I have to say, the colours are a lot more striking than on Fort Max. He is a bit of a doorstop, but his City mode is fun for interacting with smaller 'bots.

numbat
2014-09-08, 09:59 PM
Yeah, I always preferred the Brave Max deco. With the Encore edition, G1 Fort Max may be more attainable, and would work with PE Warden well. But seriously, I think any Fort Max is likely a pipe dream for me...

Warcry
2014-09-08, 10:10 PM
2) The figure I had featured some really weak/loose ankles. No matter what I did I had to balance the heck out of him to get him to stand on his own. The figure design seemed well weight-distributed, but he would never stand right, so I couldn't put him into cool action poses. Just stood there like a statue, slightly tilted to the front to keep him up. Drove me nuts.
I've owned a few versions of the mold myself and never had that problem, but I can easily see why it'd become an issue. He's a fairly bulky figure and they're fairly small joints, so it wouldn't take much to make them loose. Especially considering the way they're mounted, which means that there's going to be weight on them at all times.

For non-comic fans, though, I'd recommend Skullgrin over Straxus. You don't need to know the character to appreciate a ram-faced lunatic.

They are customs of a sort, they have been built from a bunch of junkers, given a new lick of paint and some repro labels. I bought them off a soldier :swirly:
Neat! Well, regardless of provenance they look great and you're making me want to start tracking them down for myself. I guess reviving my battered Slag is a good first step. Now, to find a replacement rear leg...

I have the RiD Brave Max (the cheapy Sonokong Korean version with his upside down Autobot insignia) and I have to say, the colours are a lot more striking than on Fort Max. He is a bit of a doorstop, but his City mode is fun for interacting with smaller 'bots.
Brave Max always looked quite lovely to me. I'd imagine the price has stayed relatively sane too, what with the reissue of the original last year. I'd love to track one down but don't have the room for something that big.

Grand Maximus easily outdoes the original on looks too, but the price? No thanks.

Skyquake87
2014-09-10, 07:38 AM
Toys Toys Toys /I'm looking for a good time!

RiD Sideways vs Axer

Leaving aside that Sideways is one of the worst Transformers names ever, this sexy wasp-themed repaint of Generation 2's Road Rocket is a lovely looking chap. His right arm is a little restricted by the light up saw blade, but he's a great early example of the awesomeness of balljoints. He also looks fab with the excellent Agent Helix off of the G.I.Joe movie line (because I am no purist!).

Axer is a beautiful silver/ gold trimmed repaint of Generation 2 Road Pig (why Hasbro couldn't have re-used these names for these two, I don't know) whom turns into one of those MASSIVE Harley things. He's the better of these two bike bots, having a much less cluttered robot mode. There's just the stupidly fragile tabs in his lower legs to worry about which mean I've only Transformed this guy twice for fear of these just snapping (as they did on my old Road Pig toy, which left him with floppy legs). I have had the Baroness model this fellow for you!

Both of these guys are still the benchmark for how you do a motorbike Transformer.

RiD Brave Maximus
Seen as we've been talking about him, lets have a look at the big fella. Yeah, this bad boy knocks the bland grey and blue block that is Fortress Maximus out of the park. And, in my opinion, Grand Maximus as well. The mix of red, blue and silver is just much more pleasing. The figure itself is a surprisingly hefty and heavy brute. He looks best in robot mode, his City mode is decent, but that attack thing is pretty poor and isn't a patch on the other City bots. I like that he's huge and chunky and full of retro stylings. The double Headmaster gimmick is fun and even without the additional accessories of Fort and Grand, he's still got a plentiful supply of flip out weapons at his disposal. The City mode is probably the best out of the line for interacting with smaller toys, although small figures like the Micromasters get the best out of the thing.

Warcry
2014-09-10, 08:35 PM
Never owned either of the Laser Cycle molds. They look cool, though!

Have some more G1! Well, reissues. Close enough.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_Diaclone1_robot_zps28d85230.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/Diaclone1_robot_zps28d85230.jpg.html) http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/th_Diaclone1_alt_zpscacb77c4.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/gbehrends/media/Diaclone1_alt_zpscacb77c4.jpg.html)

I don't think I was even aware that Hoist existed when I was a kid, which means that he was a pleasant surprise when I joined the online fandom. A "new" character from the original days that I'd never heard of! But I didn't especially care about him, and I didn't really think about buying him until TRU had started to put the reissues on sale for $20 off regularly. I think I got him, Grapple and Red Alert all at the same time?

But anyway, I was really surprised to find that I liked him! The blocky, primitive look that he's got to him really meshes nicely with his colour scheme, and gives him the look of a workmanlike, unspectacular support-crew character -- which, of course, is exactly what he is. I like that he comes with three different swappable "hand" modules, too, though I tend to stick with the one hand, one missile configuration that the character model used.

Tracks is actually kinda boring compared to the other ex-Diaclone cars. He's just bland and plasticky in car mode, with a boring robot design. Not a huge fan of the guy. He's not all that bad, just sort of forgettable.

And then there's Starscream, who is terrible. And I knew he was terrible, because I owned Thundercracker as a kid and thought he was terrible then (before I broke him). So why did I buy Starscream? Damned if I know. He sort of looks nice surrounded by a shelf of other G1 Decepticons, though.

Inferno was one of the reissues I chased down the hardest when he came out. The primary reason for that is this sticker album (http://www.tfarchive.com/cartoons/promos/panini-spanish-sticker-album.php?dgallery_show=panini/spanish/panini_spanish_sticker_album_28.jpg) (mine was English obviously, but whatever) which I always thought made him look super-cool when I was a kid. He didn't disappoint when I finally got one. I like that he's got a leaner, more humanoid body layout than most of the Diaclone figures, and I like both his head design and accessories (like Hoist, the swappable hands are cool). His alt-mode is probably the weakest of the Autobot Cars, though, basically being a truck cab with a bunch of obvious robot parts trailing behind it.

Gotten on the cheap, Grapple is okay but unspectacular. He doesn't quite outshine Inferno in any way, having a duller colour scheme, fewer accessories and a less-exciting alt-mode. Out of the four decos this toy got that I'm aware of (Artfire and Hauler being the other two) this is probably the least interesting. He's still cooler than most of the other toys of his era, but suffers in comparison to his flashier mold-brother.

numbat
2014-10-26, 07:22 PM
Whilst going through Transformers doing a clearout I played around with a few:

- TFTM Voyager Premium Ratchet: Frankly I had to get him out to square off against AoE Lockdown. First thing I noticed is yeah, he dwarfs not only AoE Deluxe Lockdown, but also AoE Voyager Evasion Mode Prime and AoE Voyager Hound. Other than that, he's still an amazing cool mould. I love the simplicity and ingenuity of the transformation, and both modes look great in metallics. Because I don't have a particular love of Ratchet, I took a while to get round to getting the TFTM one, and I still remember how surprised I was by how awesome he is. And you know what? 7 years down the road and he still rocks!

- Classics Deluxe Skywarp: I still love the Classics Seeker mould. It's simple but very effective. Skywarp is gorgeous, although the lilac still seems more pink than it ought to... I love every one of my Classics-style Seekers still - I just don't see this ever being done better at this scale.

- Classics Voyager Jetfire: I was so excited by this guy. But I bet any UK Transformers fan would be. He did a great job, and is a good representation of the Stormbringer design. However, I have to say that Generations Leader Class Jetfire really is much better - at least for me. I do prefer Voyager Jetfire's general jet design though - it's more G1 cartoon - but the execution is not up to scratch with the more modern (and larger) figure.

- TFTM Deluxe Barricade: Simple, but fun, and those legs are getting easier over the years. But, not nearly as detailed as ROTF onwards figures, and perhaps one of the least detailed TFTM figures. And he has no lower body. I do love Frenzy though...

- DOTM Deluxe Barricade: Remarkably much more complex than the TFTM version, and still has tricky legs, whilst lacking a lower body. Much more detailed, and a better representation of the character but lacks Frenzy and is a total midget.

Only Jetfire made the cut for sale / trade by the way (although others not mentioned above such as Generations Deluxe Thunderwing, who is just too small basically, are also now on my sale / trade thread - but this is not a blatant advert so I won't mention any more!).

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Warcry
2014-10-27, 01:22 AM
Speaking of Seekers...

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag6/gbehrends/ClassicsSeekers_zpsc8419f8b.jpg

I love the mold too! I never got a Skywarp, though I've gotten one version of pretty much everyone else who came out at retail. Pretty much the only mold I've ever army-built. Universe Starscream and Generations Thundercracker are by far my faves. Starscream's unique mix of the toy's blue with the cartoon's red and white is just beautiful.

Classics Jetfire is really primitive compared to modern stuff, but I love his jet mode and all the clip-on gear he has in robot mode. The legs are terrible, though. :(

I have both of the Barricades you're talking about. My 2006 Movie version is in pretty rough shape though...the police decals on his doors have pretty badly flaked off. I think the DOTM version is the far better toy, but he's such a dwarf that he doesn't display well with any of my other movie toys.

Thunderwing sorta sucks but I inexplicably love him anyway.

Heinrad
2014-10-27, 02:17 AM
Jetfire
Seeing the new Generatins toy in the flesh at AA this year made me realise how still bloody amazing the original is. And of course, its great because it doesn't originate with Takara :P Great alt mode, nice robot and clip armour stuff and a right big gun. Awesome. And one day, I will figure out exactly how the gun clip works and where its supposed to go. Oh yes.


I, too, love my G1 Jetfire. Even managed to get the canopy shield off of a friend's Bandai rerelease of Skull One. Makes Jetfire look a bit more imposing.

As for the gun clip, it clips onto the right arm so the gun pod can be stored there when not in use, and also keeping it locked into the undercarriage in fighter mode. The Super Armor Jetfire comes with renders the clip a bit useless, because the armor's not designed to work with the clip.

ganon578
2014-10-27, 05:14 PM
I love the mold too! I never got a Skywarp, though I've gotten one version of pretty much everyone else who came out at retail. Pretty much the only mold I've ever army-built. Universe Starscream and Generations Thundercracker are by far my faves. Starscream's unique mix of the toy's blue with the cartoon's red and white is just beautiful.

I managed to get my hands on a Skywarp before everyone went bonkers for the set for the Magnus in it. He's a beauty! Starscream's my fave of the bunch (because of the character) but Thundercracker and Skywarp have better paint jobs. The metallic blue on Thundercracker is really stunning.

Dirge and/or Acid Storm are my least faves (I have the whole set, luckily). I kinda wish they would have made Sunstorm instead of Acid Storm.

numbat
2014-10-27, 06:21 PM
The metallic blue on Thundercracker is really stunning.
Yeah, I have the six G1 Seekers (so no Acid Storm), and Thundercracker is easily the best in terms of paint job. Ramjet is really awesome too, and I have a soft spot for Thrust as I always wanted him as a kid. Like you, though, my fave is Starscream as he has the character appeal and was the first Decepticon I ever owned when I was wee.

Dirge isn't bad really - although it's a shame you can't pose the wings on his legs like you can with Ramjet.

Knightdramon
2014-12-17, 10:47 PM
Thanks to a dear friend of mine visiting from Athens, I had a chance to be re-acquainted with the last 2 "large" TFs I had back in Athens...MP Grimlock and ROTF Buster Prime [solo edition].

ROTF Buster Prime is hands down the best version of Movie Prime that will ever be. Consecutive toylines have either slightly tweaked the design [DOTM minor remoulds] to accommodate various add ons, or completely reinvented it with worse results [AoE]. Big, chunky, detailed, has tons of moving parts, very articulated, can have both swords and the buster gun, has a non derpy open face, and makes a large truck to boot.

As a fun retro look, my friend really liked Buster Prime much more than MP10 Prime, looks and functionality wise.

MP Grimlock is every bit as basic and fun as he ever was. Compared to, say, MP09 Rodimus, who came out right after him, he has not aged that well. The bot mode is kind of floppy as the upper chest and lower torso do not properly lock together, and the legs have got too strong a ratchet so they can easily undo/loosen the torso connection with some movement. His huge and heavy arms being on massive ball joints was not the best of options, and the dino mode is too compromised by all the junk mechanisms on his back that allow you to move the head around, up and down, and waggle the tail in unison with it. Still a good piece but really looking forward to whatever FT can do with it, only bigger and possibly less compromised.

Tetsuro
2014-12-20, 08:16 PM
It's kind of funny, really - thinking back, I was really upset when TT announced a second version of the Masterpiece Rodimus which would supposedly fix all the problems of the previous version, shortly after I acquired one myself - but I ended up never doing anything about it, so to this day, I still own the V1.

Which ironically was probably for the better, because in addition to correcting the problems of V1, V2 introduced a whole bunch of new ones, like the tendency to snap in half at waist or at arms thanks to some stupidly weak plastic. With the only weak spots in V1 being the leg plates, and mine do not appear to have any stress marks as of yet, it seems like I ended up getting the better end of the deal in the long run.

Notabot
2014-12-21, 12:38 AM
So we are packing to move to Iowa at the end of December, and I have the daunting task of boxing up all of my Transformers. It's ridiculous how many I have! But in the process, I'm remember just how cool some of them are. HFTD Lugnut and Lockdown, Movie Mindwipe and Skystalker, Cybertron Galvatron, Alternators... It's nice for them to get some appreciation instead of just sitting on a shelf collecting dust. And now they can sit in a Rubbermaid tub and not collect dust. :)

Uberbonus: The new parsonage we are moving to has built in wall shelves with glass fronts, and my wife instantly said, "It already has Transformer shelves!"

Clay
2014-12-31, 10:50 PM
Uberbonus: The new parsonage we are moving to has built in wall shelves with glass fronts, and my wife instantly said, "It already has Transformer shelves!"

:up:

So, you're not going to be mayor anymore?

As for me, I dug out Transmetal Tarantulas yesterday. I never noticed it before, but the way the spider head becomes the chest and the legs jut up and behind him, he's sort-of not-dissimilar to Starscream. I should make a shelf of backstabbing traitors from across sublines.

Notabot
2015-01-02, 05:10 AM
Sadly, I am not. My oldest son suggested a coup (bloodless or otherwise) in our new town, but I'm thinking it might be better to just wait a year or two to see how things are run here.


Then the coup.

Denyer
2015-01-11, 02:28 AM
Dug out Darkmount, was reminded how neat the mould and fact of getting a homage is, and now I'm thinking that United Straxus looks a bit nicer...

Also, this thing's about two heads taller than Jhiaxus.

edit: Having said that I seem to have mistransformed him with the chest not brought down.

We really need a Jhiaxus in G2 colours...

Skyquake87
2015-01-11, 12:13 PM
Binaltech Laserwave
Still the best version of Shockwave, in my books. I found the original toy a slight disappointment when I finally got hold of one, and this guy delivered exactly what I was looking for. Unlike the original, he's slightly more beefy (well he would be, turning into a car) and looks less like a strong breeze would take him out. The diecast gives him some superb weight, and the sparkles in the paintwork make him superior to the western Alternators release. He's not without his problems. The mould was designed first for Meister, and Takara have not though to make any alterations meaning the robot head is a right pain to get through the slot in the bonnet.

Prime RID Vehicon
One of the very best Deluxe scaled Transformers ever. A really elegant design that has a neat transformation and superb sculpt. The vehicle mode is a brutal looking muscle car. An excellent excellent figure. So much so, that I have 9 of them!

Transformers Collection Huffer & Gears
Along with Gears, I loved the portrayal of these two grumpy old men as portrayed in the Ladybird book 'Autobots Lightning Strike'. And the toys are just darling. A super cute little orange tractor cab and little blue truck, respectively, they look great and the robot modes are ace too, nice cutesy little blocks that show up the likes of Bumblebee and Cosmos.

Beast Wars Manterror
With his He-Man sounding villain name (and looking like one too), Manterror is one of the more dafter excursions in Beast Wars. A largely successful rendition of a Praying Mantis, he features some superb articulation (mainly in the arms) in robot mode and has this neat disc launching gimmick. He has nice, shiny and solid green plastics neatly accented with a few dabs of paint and those clear blue plastics. Transformation isn't as simple as it looks which is a surprise and whilst not as mad as Injector, he offers similar levels of weird fun.

Clay
2015-01-11, 05:15 PM
Binaltech Laserwave
He's not without his problems. The mould was designed first for Meister, and Takara have not though to make any alterations meaning the robot head is a right pain to get through the slot in the bonnet.


Try pointing the head straight up as if he's looking at the ceiling. The front of the car will rotate more easily then.

Knightdramon
2015-01-11, 09:33 PM
Or, try to not have the head platform level in robot mode position when you try to fold down the hood. This way the mass of the head moves in tandem with the opening of the hood instead of trying to find the one sweet spot when they meet at the final point.

Skyquake87
2015-01-11, 10:00 PM
Thanks guys, I don't transform him that often...so Always have a right fiddle trying to sort that out!

Clay
2015-01-11, 11:43 PM
My turn! I dug out the Seacons this weekend and, in the spirit of Age of Extinction, used them as riding mounts for the Legends Terrorcons.

Knightdramon
2015-01-24, 09:58 PM
Back in Athens for a bit, had a chance to play with some of my remaining figures---get some of them back.

Prime FE Vehicon: I actually dig this one far more than the RID version. The RID version basically compresses the roof on the legs, but that leaves it with one panel arms and a thin, static torso. FE trades that neat trick for proper arms, chunky legs and vastly superior articulation. I love the clear plastic folding and beefing up for his forearms via panels, I like the gun that can store in car mode as well, I love the layers of plastic on his lower legs and the generous amount of paint/clear plastic ratio. Big and beefy on par with the 2010 Generations deluxes.

:clap:

numbat
2015-01-25, 08:48 AM
My turn! I dug out the Seacons this weekend and, in the spirit of Age of Extinction, used them as riding mounts for the Legends Terrorcons.

Brilliant!

:lol:

numbat
2015-03-02, 03:25 PM
Did a bit of a sort and a little more of a clearout today, and in the process took Takara Prime First Edition Voyager Bulkhead out of the Prime storage box (yeah, no Prime figures going - just love the designs too much!).

First Edition Bulkhead remains one of the best Transformers ever. I just absolutely love him. The transformation is so cool, and the two modes so wonderfully awesome! I love the metallic finish of the Takara version too (although appreciate this is less cartoon accurate than the Hasbro one, but this makes no difference to me as I have no attachment to the cartoon, nor have I really seen more than 10mins of it ever).

Yup. Bulkhead is just wonderful!

(And helpful when procrastinating from preparing university lectures...)

Warcry
2015-03-03, 06:20 PM
Bulkhead is a fantastic toy! I've got the Hasbro version and I definitely prefer the brighter, show-accurate colour scheme, but you could paint the thing cyan and blaze orange and it wouldn't take anything away from it. The engineering and transformation are fantastic! I'll have to get mine out again soon.

For me, the older toy I've been paying attention to recently is Generations Trailbreaker. I really didn't like the Hoist that came from the same mold, and the figure's caught a lot of flak for being quite small by Deluxe standards, but it's well-designed and a fair bit of fun to fiddle with. The vehicle mode is especially good, which surprises me a little because the cannons and forcefield equipment that the designers didn't bother hiding actually fits far better than it has any right to.

inflatable dalek
2015-03-03, 08:42 PM
Apart from that long standing bugbear of current Generations toys that is the lack of paint (apart from on Skids wheels, which have a sarcastic amount), I do like Trailbreaker a lot. Great fun little toy.

numbat
2015-04-06, 09:21 PM
I was packing up a few figures to post out after selling on eBay and couldn't resist getting a few Legends out...

- Prime Beast Hunters Abominus: (Inspired by Clay) I still really want to love this guy... Each individual is a clear improvement on the G1 figure, but the combined mode still seems lanky and messy. I mean, each limb is just a monster tagged on to a really weird torso... Insanely fun though!

- Legends of Cybertron Seekers: I got all eight out. I think that's all they ever made. I wish they made more. This remains the best Legends/Legion Class mould, yet was one of the first! So disappointing they only went down hill from here. I have three versions of Starscream, two of Ramjet (WTF?), one of Skywarp, one of Thrust and one of Sunstorm. Where is Thundercracker? And where's Dirge? I guess Hasbro hadn't figured out Seeker-Sales yet at this point...

Clay
2015-04-13, 11:38 PM
Most appropriate thread for these pictures, I think.

Took these pictures a while ago and finally uploaded them. Here's AOE Rusty Prime side by side with G1 Prime. I really like them as a pair. AOE Prime goes from a truck roughly the same size as G1 Prime into, well, Movie Prime, and does so by basically turning inside out. It's a... tangible metaphor for the franchise over three decades and how far it's come, both in engineering and in pop culture.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/IMG_5541.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_5541.jpg.html)http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/IMG_5540.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_5540.jpg.html)http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/IMG_5542.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_5542.jpg.html)http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/claywyatt1982/IMG_5544.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/claywyatt1982/media/IMG_5544.jpg.html)

numbat
2015-05-31, 10:16 PM
Been playing around with THS-01 Galaxy Convoy today while working. Really awesome figure - love the small scale, great detail and die cast. Weighs more than Arms Micron Bulkhead!

Still annoyed I'm missing two hands (came with two duplicates and seller said I could return just these and they'd send replacements - ten years later and I'm still waiting...). So if anyone's interested in selling hands PM me!

But, yeah, amazing figure. Tempts me to find THS-02 - but the truck mode looks so weird in pictures. How is it in real life?

Knightdramon
2015-05-31, 10:24 PM
But, yeah, amazing figure. Tempts me to find THS-02 - but the truck mode looks so weird in pictures. How is it in real life?

It fared a lot better back in 2005/6 when it came out as a miniature MP Convoy---I don't think it holds that well today, with MP10 in the fold.

Truck mode was ugly as a sin, robot mode was cool enough though.

Plenty of pics here http://www.collectiondx.com/toy_review/2006/hybrid_style_convoy

numbat
2015-05-31, 10:37 PM
Thanks - so THS-02 basically looks amazing in robot mode but bloody awful in truck mode... Frustrating!

THS-01 is so awesome though - I'd totally be in to collecting a line like this at the same small scale. Shame it doesn't seem to be on the cards.

numbat
2015-06-24, 12:26 PM
Dusted off the six Classics-style Deluxe Seekers again. I do really love the mould. It's a shame the six were released over such an extended period in different lines though, as they don't quite gel as a team as well as they could have. Although Starscream was my favourite as a kid, he's (Classics version) clearly the poor sibling of the rest here. Similarly, while Thrust was my favourite Conehead, Ramjet is the winner here I think. If only you could position Dirge's leg-wings like you can Ramjet...

Not quite so old, but I guess pushing a year, I also got Generations Voyager Sky-Byte out for my desk. Such a fun toy! And a big Voyager too. And, bonus, he looks great.

So, of course I also had to get TFCC Deluxe Scourge out to stand with him. Also a fantastic mould, and painted the way it deserves, but man is he a midget? He's actually shorter than Generations Arcee who I also have on my desk (and who I love still). It's good there's an upcoming release of the mould in similar colours - if you get the chance I'd highly recommend it.

These do remind me how much fun mainline figures can be, when done right, and HasTak have done a lot right.

:)

numbat
2015-08-25, 07:09 AM
Got Fansproject City Commander and Classics Ultra Magnus out to see if that displays well against Combiner Wars Leader Megatron...

Answer - nope. Megatron is just too tall...

On the plus side it has reminded me how much fun Ultra Magnus is with the City Commander armour, and I finally got round to giving him an Autobot insignia on his shoulder. He also looks good next to the recent AoE re-release of Classics Prime - they both have this slightly-more-detailed-paint-applications vibe going on than other 'Classics'.

On the down side I realise that Masterpiece Ultra Magnus probably makes City Commander and Classics Ultra Magnus superfluous to my collection... I may need to do another cull.

Denyer
2015-08-30, 12:45 AM
THS-01 is so awesome though - I'd totally be in to collecting a line like this at the same small scale. Shame it doesn't seem to be on the cards.
A lot of people seem to put DX9 War in Pocket stuff alongside HS Convoy.

Denyer
2015-09-13, 09:24 PM
Not so much my old toys, but was reminded that RID Bludgeon existed and picked one up... cut the hose off so that the bellows are an independent accessory. Lots of charm but the reviews aren't kidding, it's floppy as hell. Will be getting the floor varnish out for this and other tasks at some point. Might take a pic or two if I can find G2 Laser Prime to go with him and the sizes hold up to forced perspective averaging...

numbat
2015-10-16, 05:03 PM
Got Revenge of the Fallen Human Alliance Skids and Mudflap out last night. Man, they are such well designed figures! And remarkably they have far more straightforward transformations than their more fiddly Deluxe counterparts. I really like Mudflap in particular, but he's a bit trickier to transform than Skids, despite sharing a largely similar scheme. I always worry about breaking those little panels on his chest which flare out, but thankfully they remain intact. Thanks for these guys Clay - still loving them and they're now out on display with Buster Prime.

While in the movie boxes hunting for Skids and Mudflap I came across DOTM Deluxe Soundwave and AoE Takara Lockdown. Decided to take them to work to fiddle with while doing reporting. They are at least both easy to transform. They are also both midgets - particularly Lockdown who is even shorter than teeny Soundwave... Lockdown remains a terrible disappointment - his robot mode is pants but could have been so much better with just a few easy tweaks. Soundwave has grown on me over the years. His robot mode is fairly generic (it does not match the CGI model proportions closely at all, especially when compared to the awesome Human Alliance version), but the transformation is just such good fun and so very satisfying. And I love the way the wheels end up on his shoulders / behind his head.

So a mixed bag of movie toy reminiscence. Human Alliance Skids and Mudflap are top end figures, whereas DOTM Deluxe Soundwave is good fun without being a great likeness of his movie design, and AoE Takara Deluxe Lockdown is just crap (but at least Takara gave him a semi-decent paint job, although I still do not understand why his car mode is s*%t brown in both Hasbro and Takara releases?!?! Normally HasTak love grey plastic, at least for characters that should be silver - guess when they should be grey, they go for brown...).

Poor Lockdown - such an awesome character, such a terrible toy.

numbat
2015-10-17, 06:57 PM
While putting Soundwave and Lockdown away I couldn't resist taking DOTM Leader Ironhide out. I can't see why people complained he was too small compared to ROTF Leaders - he's the same size as Buster Prime.

I remain amazed that the largest version of movie Ironhide has the simplest transformation while the Deluxe one has the most complex...

His transformation is quick and satisfying. He lacks a bit in articulation, and his kibble could be better dealt with by making just a few more hinges, but man he remains inordinately great fun.

Clay
2015-10-17, 08:27 PM
Thanks for these guys Clay - still loving them and they're now out on display with Buster Prime.

Ah, I was just thinking about these a few days ago and wondering if you had gotten bored of them yet and were ready to trade them back. Good to know their appeal hasn't diminished! :)

numbat
2015-10-26, 10:11 AM
Ah, I was just thinking about these a few days ago and wondering if you had gotten bored of them yet and were ready to trade them back. Good to know their appeal hasn't diminished! :)
Afraid they're still among my favourites.

:)

They're keeping Buster Prime company now.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg278/tunnelweb/ssIMGP9250.jpg

another tf fan
2015-10-30, 05:35 AM
I always wanted that DOTM Leader Ironhide, but the handful of times I saw him I was broke.

Glad to hear it is still a worthy toy.

numbat
2015-10-30, 10:18 AM
I always wanted that DOTM Leader Ironhide, but the handful of times I saw him I was broke.

Glad to hear it is still a worthy toy.
Depends what you're after. For a Leader Class figure he is very simple, and cheats more than he needs to at the scale (and the kibble could very easily have been designed to fold away better with just a couple more hinges, or by placing hinges in more sensible places). However, that also makes him quick and fun to transform, so I can't help picking him up and playing with him. Downside is you only have so much room to display large figures, and I must say Masterpiece and Third Party figures tend to get that space in my study...

I'd recommend picking him up if you find him at a reasonable price, but he's not worth a markup.

He is my favourite movie Ironhide toy: although the Deluxe version does the best job of all he is a total bugger to transform.

(As an aside, I find the AoE Generations Leader Class Prime mould very fun too, despite it's glaring kibble issues. There's a balance between playability and displayability...)

another tf fan
2015-10-30, 04:14 PM
I like the Leader AoE Optimus too. I like the touches of vac-metal and the clean truck mode.

numbat
2015-10-30, 05:03 PM
Yeah - I was impressed by the Takara version, which was very spiffy for a mainstream release paint-wise. Thanks to Knightdramon I later got hold of the Takara Ultimate version, which is even more amazing in terms of paint and sculpt. You can also 'transform' his face so he has a faceplate or mouth. In fact, the paint job on the Ultimate version is better than the paint job on the exhaulted ROTF Buster Primes, although lacks flame pinstriping.

Anyhoo - a great fun mould, even if kibble hangs off all over the shop in robot mode.

Thunderwave
2015-10-31, 09:15 PM
I always wanted that DOTM Leader Ironhide, but the handful of times I saw him I was broke.

Glad to hear it is still a worthy toy.

I've got mine on top of a bookcase. He's got Human Alliance Whirl as a pistol and Human Alliance Backfire as a shoulder cannon. Those basics do actually make for pretty good weapons for Leader class figures.

Clay
2015-12-29, 11:10 PM
Briefly fiddled around with THS 02 Convoy today before sending it off to numbat. I'm still not keen on the thing, but before today I simply remembered it as 'bad' and little else. I had forgotten how much the figure does right, though. The detail in the trailer, the spring loaded ramp, Roller's wheels geared together so that they turn, the detail in the sculpt, etc. It has a lot going for it. I just don't understand how the truck got so little attention as to be as hideous as it is. Basically, I find it baffling that so much thought went it other aspects of the figure to have so little go into what should be the fundamental draw of the toy - transforming between two modes that look good.

Denyer
2015-12-30, 12:19 AM
True, but in robot mode he's basically scout leader Prime with the backpack... it's not something to encourage, but I can live with a few things in the collection I'd never even think of transforming.

numbat
2016-01-03, 06:44 PM
Briefly fiddled around with THS 02 Convoy today before sending it off to numbat. I'm still not keen on the thing, but before today I simply remembered it as 'bad' and little else. I had forgotten how much the figure does right, though. The detail in the trailer, the spring loaded ramp, Roller's wheels geared together so that they turn, the detail in the sculpt, etc. It has a lot going for it. I just don't understand how the truck got so little attention as to be as hideous as it is. Basically, I find it baffling that so much thought went it other aspects of the figure to have so little go into what should be the fundamental draw of the toy - transforming between two modes that look good.
Thanks for the encouragement!

:swirly:

True, but in robot mode he's basically scout leader Prime with the backpack... it's not something to encourage, but I can live with a few things in the collection I'd never even think of transforming.

If by 'scout leader' you mean outdoorsy, maybe this will work...

I am interested to see how this figure works out in person - not expecting much from the truck mode anyway.

:)

After a fairly bad end to the holidays I dug out both Prime First Edition Vehicon and RID Vehicon.

I often go to RID Vehicon, as I do love the design, but thought I'd revisit First Edition Vehicon for a Steve moment, and because others do really back the guy so I wanted to check if I was missing something.

Honestly, both are really cool figures, but the clever simplicity of RID Vehicon makes him easy to pick up and play with, while also delivering a more streamlined robot mode. It's a total win-win for me. So much-so I have decided to casually search for Arms Micron Jet Vehicon and Jet Vehicon General.

First Edition Vehicon is fun, but the transformation is very complex especially given the robot mode is fairly cluttered with kibble...

Photos on my Twitter account if you are interested in comparisons (First Edition right, RID left):

https://twitter.com/ChrisCathrine/status/683709276813160449

numbat
2016-03-21, 07:29 AM
On a whim, I got MP-5 Megatron out for the first time in years yesterday. (Still for sale if someone is interested, but I'm wavering...)

The orange plug Epic Heroes saw fit to add to the figure without consultation immediately irked me, as it always did. This time I decided I could abide it no longer, and set to work removing it. I'm pleased to say the operation was a resounding success and Megatron is now unplugged.

https://twitter.com/ChrisCathrine/status/711634170548649985

Next on to solve his cosmic rust problem (100% isopropanol may do the trick I think).

He's now a Masterpiece oddity really. The compromises are many, and following a more complicated version of the G1 transformation doesn't really seem to make a lot of sense. It's a fairly incredible feat of engineering, but doesn't quite deliver in robot mode. Add to that giant cannon the hip and elbow joints plus tiny pegs which hold the waist together can't quite handle, and he's a bit irritating.

Takara really need to release a new version of Masterpiece Megatron. Honestly, what is taking them so long?

Unicron
2016-03-21, 01:31 PM
He's now a Masterpiece oddity really. The compromises are many, and following a more complicated version of the G1 transformation doesn't really seem to make a lot of sense. It's a fairly incredible feat of engineering, but doesn't quite deliver in robot mode. Add to that giant cannon the hip and elbow joints plus tiny pegs which hold the waist together can't quite handle, and he's a bit irritating.

Aside from the normal laundry list of issues, that was the thing that really bugged me about MP Megatron. How could they not include a lighter weight, robot-scaled fusion cannon for him? I don't even think any of the 3rd party accessory makers ever got around to making one (or at least I haven't seen one that I can remember)

Denyer
2016-03-24, 10:18 PM
Mixed generation pic spam. One of my favourite things about TFs is that with few or no tweaks things produced so far apart sit well together...

Anyone else do this?

http://i.imgur.com/V9ugFps.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/V9ugFps.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8a3scBH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8a3scBH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/H3B3xU7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/H3B3xU7.jpg

Warcry
2016-03-24, 10:30 PM
Mixed generation pic spam. One of my favourite things about TFs is that with few or no tweaks things produced so far apart sit well together...

Anyone else do this?
From time to time.

I find that a G1 toy in alt-mode usually looks pretty solid next to a modern equivalent in whatever form. Both in robot mode not so much, though it does have some value in terms of "look how far we've come".

Denyer
2016-03-24, 11:19 PM
Fair point, Browning's the only one out in robot mode apart from a random Sideswipe, some WSTs, Wildfly and a Hallmark Megatron Christmas ornament.

Thunderwave
2016-03-26, 01:34 AM
Mixed generation pic spam. One of my favourite things about TFs is that with few or no tweaks things produced so far apart sit well together...

Anyone else do this?


I did something like this with my son a while back. Pulled out the old G1 Jazz and RTS Jazz, G1 Prime and Classics Prime, and so on to show him how far we've come. Also did a rough price conversion from 1984 to now figuring in inflation (Jazz's price of $9.96 in 1984 is about $22.73 now) because we're a nerd family and he found it interesting.

numbat
2016-03-29, 11:44 AM
Cosmic rust dealt with on MP-5 Megatron's feet. Scrubbing with 100% isopropanol brought back a lot of shine:

Before: https://twitter.com/ChrisCathrine/status/713727872393953280

After: https://twitter.com/ChrisCathrine/status/713728479330770945

(It's not perfect, but I don't want his feet to be as shiny as they arrived, and it's at least a big improvement. Maybe more scrubbing will help, or perhaps I'll try toothpaste like others suggest, although if isopropanol doesn't do it I don't know what will...)

I'm not bothering with the other bits of metal on him as they're largely out of sight, and it's not actual rust (just tarnish) so the structural integrity should be fine.

Here he stands:

https://twitter.com/ChrisCathrine/status/713733620511465472

Next to work out how to sort the flimsy waist connection and weak right arm joints so he can hold his cannon properly - any tips?

(And granted nothing can solve the design problems with his unsightly legs... Come on Takara, we need a new MP Megatron!)

Denyer
2016-03-29, 07:26 PM
Neat. If you've got an original or felt like grabbing one of the knock-offs that have appeared over the years, what would the original Megatron fusion cannon look like on the MP? 'Cause it was oversized on the original as well...

http://i.imgur.com/iMPKJnP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iMPKJnP.jpg

numbat
2016-03-29, 07:38 PM
That's a good idea... May look in to it if Takara don't get round to a new MP Megatron first.

I know the original had an oversized cannon - I had the G1 figure, and still have the WST one. I know it's necessary for the gun mode. I just think it is a bit unwieldy in robot mode... I imagine it is impossible to have a Megatron who turns in to an accurate P.38 and has a fusion cannon that looks like it jumped out of the cartoon. But I can dream...

The shoddy wobbly waist connection and the loose joints which can't take the weight of the cannon are probably higher on my priority list to find solutions for.

MP-5 does have (a great many) issues, but he's pretty impressive in a lot of ways too. If I can sort the major issues I may be able to love him again.

Warcry
2016-03-29, 07:56 PM
Neat. If you've got an original or felt like grabbing one of the knock-offs that have appeared over the years, what would the original Megatron fusion cannon look like on the MP? 'Cause it was oversized on the original as well...
Now that you mention that, I think I've seen it done and I'm pretty sure it did look better than the full-sized MP cannon did. But they might have needed an adapter to get it to attach.

I imagine it is impossible to have a Megatron who turns in to an accurate P.38 and has a fusion cannon that looks like it jumped out of the cartoon. But I can dream...
You probably could, but it would involve some pretty complex engineering. Something to the effect of the outer shell of the gun's scope becoming a part of the robot's body, while the robot's smaller fusion cannon was hiding inside it. Honestly, I think any Megatron that was able to nail the Walther mode and the cartoon robot at the same time would have to be so complicated, with so many moving parts, it would make Rube Goldberg blush.

inflatable dalek
2016-03-29, 08:03 PM
The fusion cannon isn't oversized is it? That's what the gun it's based on (the Man From UNCLE prop) actually looks like.

Brendocon 2.0
2016-03-29, 08:16 PM
The fusion cannon isn't oversized is it? That's what the gun it's based on (the Man From UNCLE prop) actually looks like.

http://hellinahandbasket.net/?p=1110
*shrug*

Warcry
2016-03-29, 08:41 PM
The fusion cannon isn't oversized is it? That's what the gun it's based on (the Man From UNCLE prop) actually looks like.
It's the right size in gun mode, but it's usually been drawn smaller than that (and often with a different proportion of length to radius) in robot mode in the cartoon and comics.

numbat
2016-03-30, 01:19 PM
It's the right size in gun mode, but it's usually been drawn smaller than that (and often with a different proportion of length to radius) in robot mode in the cartoon and comics.
What he said.

;)

(I realise the scope is the right scale to fit with the oversize gun mode proportions. It's the robot mode it is not in scale with, if you are going by the cartoon anyway.)

You probably could, but it would involve some pretty complex engineering. Something to the effect of the outer shell of the gun's scope becoming a part of the robot's body, while the robot's smaller fusion cannon was hiding inside it. Honestly, I think any Megatron that was able to nail the Walther mode and the cartoon robot at the same time would have to be so complicated, with so many moving parts, it would make Rube Goldberg blush.
Oh, I know it would be very difficult to incorporate a shrinking transformation in to the scope part, or find a way ti incorporate the scope in robot mode with an extra cannon part becoming revealed. I'd settle for an accessory I could swap on. You know, a big scope piece for gun mode, with an optional smaller fusion cannon to swap it with in robot mode.

Unicron
2016-03-30, 03:37 PM
Oh, I know it would be very difficult to incorporate a shrinking transformation in to the scope part, or find a way ti incorporate the scope in robot mode with an extra cannon part becoming revealed. I'd settle for an accessory I could swap on. You know, a big scope piece for gun mode, with an optional smaller fusion cannon to swap it with in robot mode.

Given the way they're throwing random accessories around with some of the MPs lately, I'm hoping for scope and fusion cannon pair we can swap around is the plan for the inevitable v2 Megatron

numbat
2016-03-30, 05:50 PM
Given the way they're throwing random accessories around with some of the MPs lately, I'm hoping for scope and fusion cannon pair we can swap around is the plan for the inevitable v2 Megatron
Aye, given how many accessories came with MP Ironhide, we can hope indeed!

numbat
2016-04-04, 04:23 PM
For the third weekend in a row, I spent my brief 'me' time while my wife and toddler napped fixing inherent issues with MP-5 Megatron.

This time, I tackled the loose waist connector and hips. I carefully prised the waist connector prongs out and let them set in position a bit with an electrical screwdriver, before using card to keep the lower part of the clip from returning to its original too narrow alignment whilst still allowing some flexibility so it didn't become irreversibly stuck in robot mode.

https://twitter.com/ChrisCathrine/status/716594905682935808

I then dismantled the legs and reset the pins, and he can once again free-stand holding his fusion cannon high.

https://twitter.com/ChrisCathrine/status/716623809474924544

He still has his issues: I still think more could be done to improve the hips in particular - I wonder if some silicon sealant may give more grip - but frankly the design is inherently terrible and it may not be possible to improve further while retaining the ability to transform and, frankly, there are better non-transforming Megatrons out there!

However, overall, he is much improved, and on display with MP-4 Convoy holding his cannon high again for the first time in years.

https://twitter.com/ChrisCathrine/status/716645831290589184

Sprucing MP-5 up has been quite satisfying. I'm still open to selling him, and MP-4, but have a new-found appreciation for both and am beginning to wonder about holding on to them...

Skyquake87
2016-04-09, 05:30 PM
Good work fella! As the chaps at Loaded used to say (probably still do)

Playing with MP Shockwave for most of the last two days has sent me rumaging through my toy boxes again...

E-Hobby Deep Cover
Still yet to be given the MP treatment, this is just a lovely lovely colourscheme. A sort of teal colour mixed with black and white it looks SEXY. Yes it does. Might possibly trump G2 Sideswipe for me, the more I look at it, if only because it lacks the moronic dayglo stickers that figure has.

Generations Brainstorm
Not that old of a toy, but I love how elegant and sleek he looks. Lovely bit of simple, well done design and engineering

Micromaster Station Greasepit
Well actually all the Micromaster Stations, they're all fun, but Ironworks and Greasepit are the best of the four. Greaspit busts out this awesome tower of shooty death from a cosy looking highway gas station and looks so adorable with his big wheel arms.

Triggercon Ruckus
Simple, silly gimmicky chunky nonsense and one of my favourites

Mirage
Because racing cars are cool. Especially when they're posh ones that hunt Turbofoxes (do they have hunt protestors on Cybertron?). Love this guy, wicked looking robot mode and a cool, boxy '70s F1 alt mode. Good times.

Clay
2016-04-11, 09:50 PM
Saw most of the Combiner Wars Combaticons in the store the other day, and I was underwhelmed. Went and dug out the warbotron Bruticus from the case and briefly played around with it again because of that.

While I was initially lukewarm to the set after completing it, I have to say that I like it more now after seeing the official offering for the character in person. The warbotron set's not without its problems (and lots of them!), but I like it more and more as other options for the character pop up. Still wouldn't recommend the set outside of Swindle, though.

I do wish Maketoys would make a Superion and Bruticus in their style, though.

Knightdramon
2016-04-23, 06:55 PM
It's weird writing about him in this thread [for a variety of reasons I will discuss] but...MP09 Hot Rod, USA version.

This August it will be a 5 year old release.

Mine is probably the most cherished figure in my collection. I still remember being very disappointed with the overall QC of my MP09 Takara version.

Hasbro version was announced in somewhat reviled, back then, colours. Missing trailer. Far cheaper. Had little Targetmaster [who still, to this day, is only available with that release] and a matrix he could hold.

Notabot hooked me up with one at cost back then. If I recall correctly I even got a little note in the box with the figure :)

I always thought that MP09 was very, very ambitious when it came to the transformation scheme, and the enjoyment [or lack of] that you got really depended on your individual copy.

TRU Hot Rod did not fare very well for many people, as a combination of tight joints, low tolerances and questionable plastic at places led to many figures suffering from broken shoulders or hip joints.

Mine is not one of those. Mine is pretty much my most transformed figure in my collection [I would estimate over 200 transformations], accompanied me to a brand new beginning to a different country and has been displayed when I was house sharing, lodging and earning very little.

He was the first figure I unpacked when I got my very first ever house on my own and to this date he has never been back in his box.

I transformed him again today---sure, over the years, he's starting to show his age. His hip ratchets aren't that strong [although a far cry from loose]. His chrome on his arms is not the best ever---but that's from day one to be fair. There are some paint chips as hasbro painted over clear plastic with thick paint in places that move around for transformation. I can see stress marks on the two tabs from his backpack that clip on his legs for car mode.

And there's also the ever present danger of his shoulders crumbling. I've dodged that bullet for nearly 5 years--will my good luck continue?

The newer MP figures are nice. They are playable, they work well as a group---but that is also one of their drawbacks. Masterpiece figures used to be one-offs, important characters "immortalized" in newer designs. This one might be a relic of a not that long ago past, where he commanded a shelf of his own, shared with no one.

And strangely enough, I really like these hasbro colours on him. :lol:

Tetsuro
2016-04-23, 08:18 PM
Remarkably, my Takara MP09 has survived multiple transformations unscathed. I actually warm up to him more and more every time I transform him, but like you, I wonder how long my good luck will continue.

Denyer
2016-05-02, 01:57 PM
However, overall, he is much improved, and on display with MP-4 Convoy holding his cannon high again for the first time in years.

https://twitter.com/ChrisCathrine/status/716645831290589184

Neat. They do make a good pair, and would've kept mine had a friend not been interested, Apollyon coming out, MP-01 ending up in a different display corner, etc. Posed as you've got him, the retro styling really works.

Eras of toys I don't really miss, but would probably snap up a loose example of Motormaster if I saw one cheap just because it'd be nice to have a complete example representing the one I got as a quiz booby prize via TMUK a couple of weeks ago... maybe the green version.

http://i.imgur.com/DhjCK8s.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DhjCK8s.jpg

numbat
2016-05-02, 03:33 PM
Eras of toys I don't really miss, but would probably snap up a loose example of Motormaster if I saw one cheap just because it'd be nice to have a complete example representing the one I got as a quiz booby prize via TMUK a couple of weeks ago... maybe the green version.
I guess you mean ROTF Mixmaster? He's a bit of a nightmare to transform, but the robot mode is impressively like the CGI model, although something needs done with that cab shell hanging off him. I rarely play around with him...

On the otherhand I got a few CHUG figures out last night / this morning while tidying my study a bit. My 2 year old son loved Henkei Astrotrain (choo-choo!), and I've been reminded how much I like Generations IDW Skids, but equally how much he needs heels for decent posing. Temped by the upcoming Takara version, as the Hasbro one I have is quite plain really.

Also playing around with Generations Roadbuster (how could I not, having just read Sins of the Wreckers #4 yesterday?). His simplicity is surely the opposite of ROTF Mixmaster's complexity at the same scale. It's satisfying to be able to transform him so quickly, I love all the accessories, but I wish he had more articulation (particularly thigh swivels that actually worked, and wrists, but I'd take anything to make this brick more dynamic).

And Energon Ultra Tidal Wave - he's bigger than Generations Leader Class Jetfire incidentally. Hefty, nice design, but terrible terrible articulation. I wish they'd do a CHUG update of him - he's just so very cool but the toy unacceptably dated.

numbat
2016-05-02, 06:58 PM
Also got out RTS Wreck-Gar and Generations Junkheap. So their transformation is a total pain, but there is just so much fun to be had with a Transformer riding another Transformer!

Obligatory 'Dare to be stupid' photo here: https://twitter.com/ChrisCathrine/status/727203533171351554

And Generations Blitzwing... Hmmm. He may be looking for a new home soon.

numbat
2016-05-23, 09:19 PM
Me again!

With my regular Takara Age of Extinction AoE Evasion Mode Prime going to a new home, I got the three versions of this mould I own together for one last time...

It is a really clever mould, but I still find folding the arms away when going from robot to truck a pain.

The Takara Rusty version is undoubtedly my favourite, and I can't imagine ever parting with him, but man they just could not get everything right in a single standard deco could they? Takara's AD-02 has flames on the shoulders but not on the legs, while the Hasbro version from that evolution two pack has them on the legs but not shoulders. And neither of the two standard versions have flames on the chest...

Still, you'd be daft not to own some version of this mould!

Some group shots here: https://twitter.com/ChrisCathrine/status/734841968161886208

Heinrad
2016-05-29, 09:52 PM
Veering back to MP 09 Hot Rod for a moment.....

I think he's my favorite version of the figure. It's a good colorscheme, he's held up quite well, and the only problem I've had was the fact that the mount for his spoiler broke, not due to being overly fragile, but due to a cat that decided she loved jumping up on the desk where I had him standing and knocking him over onto the floor.

Many times.

Along with that, there's now some scraped sections on the pieces that are revealed on his hood when you transform him to vehicle mode.

numbat
2016-05-30, 07:50 PM
the only problem I've had was the fact that the mount for his spoiler broke, not due to being overly fragile, but due to a cat that decided she loved jumping up on the desk where I had him standing and knocking him over onto the floor.
I feel your pain - one of my cats randomly decided to bite MP Ironhide's foot and left a hole in it! Bloody cats...

Heinrad
2016-06-07, 02:14 AM
Generations Warpath: Pulled this guy out of storage while finally getting around to unpacking and setting up my shelves. Geez, I have a lot of DVDs...... Anyway, I'd forgotten what a brilliant update of the little G1 minibot he is. And I like the futuristic quad tread H-tank look.

numbat
2016-08-19, 11:46 AM
Generations Warpath: Pulled this guy out of storage while finally getting around to unpacking and setting up my shelves. Geez, I have a lot of DVDs...... Anyway, I'd forgotten what a brilliant update of the little G1 minibot he is. And I like the futuristic quad tread H-tank look.
Yeah - I love those old CHUG Legends figures. So much so I don't see the point in the recent and far more expensive versions...

Anyway...

At last! A day without wind or rain in Scotland coincided with some toddler-free spare time!

So I took the opportunity to take photos of MP Hot Rod fishing at the River Teith.

Via twitter: https://twitter.com/ChrisCathrine/status/766308373319000064

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqJ5D25XEAgbpgA.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqJ5FmNXYAAvOiq.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqJ5HvzWIAAR56L.jpg

(As a side note this is the first time I've had Daniel out the box despite owning him for over a year... He's a poor accessory for MP Ultra Magnus, but good for Hot Rod!)

Warcry
2016-08-19, 06:59 PM
Yeah - I love those old CHUG Legends figures. So much so I don't see the point in the recent and far more expensive versions...
I'm not sure you and he are talking about the same toy. Generations Warpath was the Deluxe, wasn't he? The Legend (who, I agree, was quite neat) was Universe. Unless you're both talking about the repaint of Miner Megatron, then I'm the one who's confused. :)

For my part, after getting Hardhead and Skullcruncher I felt inspired to dig through my boxes to see how many other figures I owned that fit with them -- Headmaster-era characters with a reasonably G1-accurate look. But past the obvious two, I was surprised to find there weren't that many!

Generations Scoop is probably the closest fit of them all, since he basically looks like the G1 toy plus joints. He's a bit clunkier than the new Headmasters, but that's down to how clunky the '88 Targetmasters were and how spot-on the reproduction is (minus the colours, which I fixed anyway). Still, he's got the look, he's got his Nebulans and he looks like he belongs.

Universe Cyclonus is the other obvious one. He's a Targetmaster, and he's got a very show-accurate robot mode design. A bit too show-accurate, maybe, to really fit in with blocky Transformers like Skullcruncher, since Cyclonus here is whip-thin and most of the new toys have that 80s toy bulk to them, but I think he works.

Beyond that, though, it's slim pickings! I don't think there's many (or even any) other retail-release figures with Nebulan partners before this year, and most of the older Generations figures of 86-and-later characters tended to be heavily modernized or reimagined when they weren't simply repainted from other, more recognizable characters (like Classics Rodimus and Generations Scourge and Kup with their Earth-based vehicles, or Blurr being a Drift redeco).

If you start looking at stuff like Pretenders, there not much either. Thunderwing and Black Shadow are nice, pocket-sized versions of their original designs, and Classics Grimlock is a bigger, more detailed version of the Pretender's inner robot. None of them have their gimmicks intact, but they're still callbacks to toys from the same general era (whether you define that era as "late G1" or more vaguely as "Warcry's childhood" :glance:) and look the part.

Am I forgetting about any other old figures that would fit in with this group? A lot of the Titans Return Deluxes have that nice 80s look -- basically all of them shown so far other than the IDW-based Getaway and the kinda Classics-looking Hot Rod, in fact -- so I'm sure I'll be adding a bunch of new figures to this particular sub-collection over the next year. But I don't want everyone to be a Headmaster...

Heinrad
2016-08-20, 04:07 PM
Generations Nightbeat: I love this figure. I shouldn't, really. His shoulders are crap, I bought 2 upgrade pieces to add height and give him a G1 style animation model chest, and I got the Reprolabel kit to add some color. His pack in weapon is so bad he beat up Skids and took his nudge gun to use as a pistol.

And yet.....

Shoulder problems aside, even without the mods I've made, the mold is fairly good. The lean, lanky look works for Nightbeat far better than it does for Bumblebee or Goldbug. It just feels right.

numbat
2016-08-20, 08:47 PM
I'm not sure you and he are talking about the same toy. Generations Warpath was the Deluxe, wasn't he? The Legend (who, I agree, was quite neat) was Universe. Unless you're both talking about the repaint of Miner Megatron, then I'm the one who's confused. :)
Ah. Could be. That Deluxe is cool too. I still enjoy those two. I passed on the repaint of Miner Megatron - didn't have a cannon in his chest.

:)

To touch on your other points - I really like a Universe Cyclonus, particularly the toy-based colour scheme on a more show accurate mould. Great fun!

Tetsuro
2016-10-11, 10:12 PM
I've been working my way through the G1 Transformers comic and cartoon and fully intend to follow up on it with the A/E/C trilogy, with the intent of selling those toys after I'm done since I'm pretty sure that'll be the last time I ever watch those damn things (also to fund my G1 collecting since that's pretty much all I buy these days)...

...but the trouble is, I've owned my Armada and Cybertron toys for such a long time that they've practically got their own nostalgia. Considering how few I own to begin with, it'd feel a bit silly to just keep one or two - and even if I did, which ones would they be? Armada Hot Shot may be a piece of crap, but he's also the first Transformers toy I'd gotten since whenever the hell G2 ended. The Cybertron toys in the other hand are what you might actually consider good, especially in this day of hollow limbs and movie-inspired aesthetic, they appeal to me with their G1 blockiness.

And in spite of effectively having stuffed them in a box, taped it shut and shoved it in storage, I can't help but to feel attached to them. At least unlike the various Classics/Universe/whatever toys, most of which I've already sold, they're not trying to explicitly pass off as their G1 counterparts.

ganon578
2016-10-11, 10:51 PM
Generations Nightbeat: I love this figure. I shouldn't, really. His shoulders are crap, I bought 2 upgrade pieces to add height and give him a G1 style animation model chest, and I got the Reprolabel kit to add some color. His pack in weapon is so bad he beat up Skids and took his nudge gun to use as a pistol.

And yet.....

Shoulder problems aside, even without the mods I've made, the mold is fairly good. The lean, lanky look works for Nightbeat far better than it does for Bumblebee or Goldbug. It just feels right.

Had Goldbug - sold him off. The whole thing just didn't work for me. Kind of surprised they never used the old Classics 'Bee mold for a Goldbug in the CHUG lines. That would have fit far better.

If you start looking at stuff like Pretenders, there not much either. Thunderwing and Black Shadow are nice, pocket-sized versions of their original designs

Been digging through all of my stuff since my boy is into Rescue Bots right now. I really like Gen Black Shadow, even though I have zero nostalgia for him.

so I'm sure I'll be adding a bunch of new figures to this particular sub-collection over the next year. But I don't want everyone to be a Headmaster...

I agree on that one. I'm gettin' that Getaway for sure.

To touch on your other points - I really like a Universe Cyclonus, particularly the toy-based colour scheme on a more show accurate mould. Great fun!

Uni Cyclonus is fantastic. Just an absolutely ace figure.

Warcry
2017-01-06, 09:22 PM
Had Goldbug - sold him off. The whole thing just didn't work for me. Kind of surprised they never used the old Classics 'Bee mold for a Goldbug in the CHUG lines. That would have fit far better.
Classics 'Bee could have been retooled into a ton of characters that they never touched, starting with Goldbug and three of the other Throttlebots. It's a shame it never happened, since that's a great mold.

Been digging through all of my stuff since my boy is into Rescue Bots right now. I really like Gen Black Shadow, even though I have zero nostalgia for him.
Never liked Black Shadow, myself. He just seems so much plainer than Thunderwing, and honestly that's just not a very good mold to start with. I'd love for both of them to get a big, modern figure with the Mega Pretender gimmick intact, though.

My son has been going through an "I want to play with daddy's robots!" phase, so I went digging through all my old stuff as well. I was actually surprised to find how few of the Generations figures I've got on hand are at all appropriate for a little kid to play with, though (and my sister's kids have most of my Unicron Trilogy stuff). The older stuff is all so complex and fiddly, with small parts likely to pop off and go in his mouth.

One of the toys I did grab for him, though, was Generations Hoist, on the logic that he's not likely to fall apart in his hands. And also because Hoist's hands flip into his wrists, and that's all my little guy actually seems to want to do with the toys so far.

I never liked Hoist because of the tiny head, but it did inspire me to dig out Trailbreaker for myself, who I remembered liking. I...don't so much like him anymore. The torso transformation is frustrating as heck and any time I try to move the arms he starts to untransforms himself. The robot mode also looks really bland with all the washed-out red on it. Suffice to say, he got tossed back in the tote less than half an hour after I hauled him out. Maybe my boy can have him too after he inevitably destroys poor Hoist.

Uni Cyclonus is fantastic. Just an absolutely ace figure.
I'd actually forgotten how many little things on this toy frustrate me, but after having him out on my desk for a few months it's coming back. The shoulders don't pop in as securely as they should, the back end of the jet mode is really messy, Nightstick doesn't really clip into his wrist the way he's supposed to, I don't like one hand being a molded fist and they were painfully stingy with the paint. It's a fun figure, and a pretty one, but not as much of either as it should have been.

I also pulled out his wavemate Hound, who I recall loving, but again the actual figure doesn't match up to the memories I had. It looks great, and is a really nice mix of toy and cartoon aesthetics. But you can't pose it at all. His thighs are shorter than the thickness of his feet (!) so he looks silly if you bend his knees, and his hips are insanely loose. So posing him is basically restricted to how far apart you want his feet and how you want his arms positioned. He's also got paint wear everywhere, most notably on the clear-blue windshield section but also on his arms and legs. He's nowhere near as cool a toy as I remember. A nice shelf piece but not something I'm going to look forward to playing with again.

ganon578
2017-01-10, 02:13 AM
Classics 'Bee could have been retooled into a ton of characters that they never touched, starting with Goldbug and three of the other Throttlebots. It's a shame it never happened, since that's a great mold.

Completely agree. Well, we got Cliffjumper, but those were the days of straight repaints with no new heads. That would have gone a long way on that figure.

Now we're finally getting a Throttlebot repaint with Roadburn from TR Bumblebee. Figures. At least he's got a new head!

Never liked Black Shadow, myself. He just seems so much plainer than Thunderwing, and honestly that's just not a very good mold to start with. I'd love for both of them to get a big, modern figure with the Mega Pretender gimmick intact, though.

I only have a soft spot for Black Shadow since he was a gift. Toy-wise he's not spectacular in any sense of the word. But I like Decepticons and jets, so my wife hit both of those marks with that gift.

And you're getting a big Black Shadow... it just happens to have no Pretender functionality.

I was actually surprised to find how few of the Generations figures I've got on hand are at all appropriate for a little kid to play with, though (and my sister's kids have most of my Unicron Trilogy stuff). The older stuff is all so complex and fiddly, with small parts likely to pop off and go in his mouth.

I recently came across my old Universe Ironhide and Ratchet deluxes, and felt the same way. Those were really the days of over-engineering in that size class. I liked the figures for a time, but they're a pain to transform and you're left with a metric s***-ton of panel lines.

I never liked Hoist because of the tiny head, but it did inspire me to dig out Trailbreaker for myself, who I remembered liking. I...don't so much like him anymore.

My Trailbreaker had stress marks on the shoulders after one go at the transformation. Neat little guy over all, but I've since replaced him with CW Trailbreaker. I'm not sure that I really made an upgrade.

I'd actually forgotten how many little things on this toy frustrate me, but after having him out on my desk for a few months it's coming back. The shoulders don't pop in as securely as they should, the back end of the jet mode is really messy, Nightstick doesn't really clip into his wrist the way he's supposed to, I don't like one hand being a molded fist and they were painfully stingy with the paint. It's a fun figure, and a pretty one, but not as much of either as it should have been.

My Cyclonus is pretty right all around; I don't think I've experienced the same looseness as you. His back end is rather full of holes though, and I'm not fond of the relative instability of that area in space ship mode. Got the CW version of him, and it's obvious the mold wasn't made for Cyclonus at all. That said, the top of the space ship looks really good, but the bottom has got that robot-tacked-on-ship thing going for it.

A nice shelf piece but not something I'm going to look forward to playing with again.

Well, that pretty much sums up my Hound. Don't usually put him back and forth, but I will say this - he tucks into that relatively tiny jeep mode well.

Speaking of that era, I still have my Classics Optimus on my shelf too. Man, that figure was really done well. Outdated by now for sure, but it's a simple figure and looks great. The articulation is still pretty good all things considered. The only thing that ever bugged me about him is the truck sides on his forearms. And the lack of a proper-stylized rifle.

Warcry
2017-01-11, 07:05 PM
Completely agree. Well, we got Cliffjumper, but those were the days of straight repaints with no new heads. That would have gone a long way on that figure.
Cliffjumper really needed a new head, this is true. But not including one led to that third-party head upgrade being made. And that being such a huge hit was one of the big factors in driving the huge 3P boom we have now! If Hasbro hadn't been so lazy, I wonder how different the landscape might be now.

Now we're finally getting a Throttlebot repaint with Roadburn from TR Bumblebee. Figures. At least he's got a new head!
Can't deny, I'm super excited for a new Throttlebot! I'm half-expecting Legends Brawn to get tarted up as Rollbar, but that's less exciting since Brawn doesn't really transform like a Throttlebot.

And you're getting a big Black Shadow... it just happens to have no Pretender functionality.
True enough! And it looks a lot better than the old Generations figure, to be sure. But it's also very obviously meant to be used as Overlord later, and I can't see myself buying a Leader mold twice.

I recently came across my old Universe Ironhide and Ratchet deluxes, and felt the same way. Those were really the days of over-engineering in that size class. I liked the figures for a time, but they're a pain to transform and you're left with a metric s***-ton of panel lines.
Those two are probably the worst examples of it, but yeah. A lot of figures in that era suffered from having movie-level complexity applied to designs that didn't really need it.

My Trailbreaker had stress marks on the shoulders after one go at the transformation. Neat little guy over all, but I've since replaced him with CW Trailbreaker. I'm not sure that I really made an upgrade.
CW Trealbreaker uses the same mold as First Aid, right? The truck/SUV? If so, yeah...a wash at best. Out of all the CW figures I've got, First Aid is fighting Brawl for the worst of the bunch.

My Cyclonus is pretty right all around; I don't think I've experienced the same looseness as you. His back end is rather full of holes though, and I'm not fond of the relative instability of that area in space ship mode. Got the CW version of him, and it's obvious the mold wasn't made for Cyclonus at all. That said, the top of the space ship looks really good, but the bottom has got that robot-tacked-on-ship thing going for it.
CW Cyclonus does nothing for me either. Honestly I don't even think the mold is very good as Silverbolt, though it gets the job done very well as a combiner torso. All of the Voyagers from CW just wound up being pretty mediocre standalone toys, other than maybe Sky Lynx (who I can't comment on since I don't have one). The Deluxes all felt kinda samey, but most of them still manage to be fun. The Voyagers aren't really all that fun unless they're combined, though.

And it amazes me to think that they stretched out just four molds across six waves. TR has more than that in the first three!

Speaking of that era, I still have my Classics Optimus on my shelf too. Man, that figure was really done well. Outdated by now for sure, but it's a simple figure and looks great. The articulation is still pretty good all things considered. The only thing that ever bugged me about him is the truck sides on his forearms. And the lack of a proper-stylized rifle.
I've somehow managed to never own Classics Optimus or any of his redecos. The figure never appealed, but honestly I don't think much of any of the new spins on G1 Optimus that have been done since then, either. The original design is so simple and iconic, but Hasbro just never seems to get it right. Nothing short of the MPs has captured the look of G1 Prime, at least for me.

The rifle and the transformation are a big part of it, but they almost never try to give him a G1-looking gun, and the only toy that tried to emulate the transformation was the Classics Deluxe (which had it's own problems).

It's funny because they've tried twice now to make a modern Laser Prime, and now a modern Powermaster, but never really taken aim at the original look.