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Cliffjumper
2015-08-16, 09:21 PM
Not really had much of a finger on the pulse of late sorry and don't really know where to start on research, so can someone help by telling me if: -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181815777147?hash=item2a5510977b

is

a) legit [though if it's a bootleg along the lines of the MP Lambo and the real thing is going to cost twice as much this is less of a problem]
b) a decent price
c) likely to be undercut by a cheaper reissue any time soon

and

d) actually any good... Really looking to replace MP-1 with something that's not such a pain to display with anything else now Takara are actually making MP toys that are, y'know, good. Thanks to selling a couple of SOC figs that have been sitting in boxes for three years I've actually got the disposable for once to put down for MP-10 first then maybe shift MP-1 (well, it's the Hasbro one, loose and with a broken Megatron stock) afterwards if at all so I'm kind-of itching to do it before I blow the lot on Abel Ferrara DVDs.

Thanks!

Brendocon 2.0
2015-08-16, 09:28 PM
It looks like it's legit, though this is the first time I've seen it levitating while curling one out.

Cliffjumper
2015-08-16, 09:29 PM
Yeh, I'm kind-of thinking that bit would probably stay minty-fresh in box.

Denyer
2015-08-16, 09:34 PM
No way it's genuine, although feedback for the KOs (seller has the Magnus version as well) has been decent enough. I'd be concerned about the seller based on the prices of other stuff and various listings with errors -- despite generally good feedback to date it looks like the account is about to be pumped and dumped.

edit: I mean, cassette pairs for ten quid and Magnus for seventy doesn't give much confidence.

Cliffjumper
2015-08-16, 09:36 PM
Hmmm.... does this one look any better?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TAKARA-TOMY-Transformers-Masterpiece-MP-10-Optimus-Prime-Ver-2-0-from-Japan-/161795137085?hash=item25abbdde3d

Denyer
2015-08-16, 09:46 PM
If buying from China/Taiwan/Japan I'd tend to look for sellers with feedbacks >10,000 -- the average price there seems to be about 130 or thereabouts, which isn't far off UK sellers doing it* for 150.

*Allegedly genuine.

edit: Incidentally, it's nice to see that KO original Dinobots are now so affordable.

Cliffjumper
2015-08-16, 09:49 PM
Yeh, I'm thinking of the extra for domestic pricing being worth it for a) fewer stressful days waiting and b) easier returns if it turns out to be a rubbish KO or something. Has the reissue come out yet?

Clay
2015-08-16, 10:01 PM
Yeh, I'm thinking of the extra for domestic pricing being worth it for a) fewer stressful days waiting and b) easier returns if it turns out to be a rubbish KO or something. Has the reissue come out yet?

Yep, it's been out for a little bit now. (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK12029&mode=retail) It's cheaper than it was the first time around, too.

Denyer
2015-08-16, 10:03 PM
BTW, best not buying on eBay if going for UK sellers -- shaves ten quid off, and it's unlikely Kapow have been suckered with KO stock.

Cliffjumper
2015-08-16, 10:04 PM
Cool... Right, there's a 150 one from a good feedback seller in the UK, so I guess it's time to wait for the missus to come home from work and ask her.

Denyer
2015-08-16, 10:25 PM
*bump* in case you haven't spotted the post above about it being cheaper to buy direct from a UK seller rather than on eBay.

Cliffjumper
2015-08-16, 11:01 PM
I hadn't - cheers dude :)

EDIT: And ordered - thanks everyone :)

Tetsuro
2015-08-17, 01:01 AM
edit: Incidentally, it's nice to see that KO original Dinobots are now so affordable.
What, where?

inflatable dalek
2015-08-17, 03:20 PM
I like the new MP, smaller and basically the same as the larger one, but just that little bit more refined.

Shame there's never (to my knowledge) been one without the trailer, it's a good G1 Prime trailer but it is basically just a big grey box.

Warcry
2015-08-17, 03:57 PM
Shame there's never (to my knowledge) been one without the trailer, it's a good G1 Prime trailer but it is basically just a big grey box.
That's put me off of buying him, too. The trailer is completely useless to me, will just take up space and probably adds $40 to the cost of the part of the set I actually want.

I think a few of the Japanese recolours have been done without the trailer (the black one is the first that comes to mind) but sadly nobody's ever had the bright idea to do that with the toy in proper colours.

inflatable dalek
2015-08-17, 04:04 PM
Yeah, it might have worked better if they'd gone all out on detail and extras, but it's just a larger version of the original toy, it just doesn't work on the larger scale. I suppose if you're going to play with it the "Being able to put the other MP Cars inside" feature might have some appeal though. But who plays with it?

Brendocon 2.0
2015-08-17, 04:53 PM
For that price you really want a Masterpiece level big grey box that at the very least has its own subspace pocket.

Knightdramon
2015-08-17, 05:30 PM
The figure has been relatively recently re-issued. It's available at hlj for 90 pounds plus shipping [plus customs, if unlucky].

It's also in stock at kapow for around 139 pounds [free shipping].

I'd go for either of those just to be sure.

I think the price [either way] is worth it. I really like the trailer for this one, despite being a "put it in the corner and never look at it again" trailer. It makes the vehicle mode more imposing :up:

Denyer
2015-08-17, 06:29 PM
What, where?

Try ebay.com with something like

transformers (slag,swoop,sludge,snarl,grimlock) (misb,boxed,reissue) -extinction

Cliffjumper
2015-08-17, 10:34 PM
Yeh, went with Kapow! in the end - I think every single package I have got from HLJ has been got by customs, so with that and the shipping I'd basically be paying the same to wait longer.

Regarding the trailer, I dunno... one of my problems with the first one is the absurd fact G1 Optimus just doesn't look right as just a cab, even if the trailer is just a big box (even the original had basically zero play value seeing as Roller would rarely make it over the ridge holding the door and no-one fit in any of the cool seats). Possibly because no version of the guy has really successfully hidden that those are just a pair of robot legs folded back.

inflatable dalek
2015-08-17, 11:54 PM
It probably does make for a more impressive vehicle mode display piece than the original MP1, I suppose it just depends on how often you transform him.

That's not to do the toy down though, far from it. I've certainly never regretted owning a second MP Prime. I suppose I should look into selling the first, but I have a certain fondness as (IIRC) he was my first ever Ebay purchase and I suspect the original stack-less American release is basically worthless now.

Rack 'n Ruin
2015-08-18, 06:39 AM
It probably does make for a more impressive vehicle mode display piece than the original MP1, I suppose it just depends on how often you transform him.

That's not to do the toy down though, far from it. I've certainly never regretted owning a second MP Prime. I suppose I should look into selling the first, but I have a certain fondness as (IIRC) he was my first ever Ebay purchase and I suspect the original stack-less American release is basically worthless now.

Yep, worthless. My address is... ;)

I own both the original MP OP (the battle damaged one that first came out here) and the UK issue MP10. I think MP10 is probably going to be the better toy overall (mine is still in its box on display due to space issues), but MP01 has some nice design features too, and is just, well, bigger. I don't plan to part with either any time soon.

Cliffjumper
2015-08-19, 10:39 PM
Got him this afternoon and yeh, he's pretty tidy. Niggles are that some of the chest's a bit fiddly with very little clearance and that something just looks slightly off about the gun. Aside from that he's pure awesome - the trailer was a pleasant surprise; I assumed it was literally a prop from the comments here but it's actually awesome. I mean, it's back in the box and will never come out again but it's still awesome.

inflatable dalek
2015-08-20, 03:10 PM
Surprised you're that impressed by it tbh, one thing I was reminded of in your comparison pics on Facebook was the inside isn't even as colourful as the original toy. It's a nice grey box, but that's pretty much what it is.

Knightdramon
2015-08-20, 06:59 PM
He is very nifty indeed. It's not the second coming as some are viewing him as, but he is very good.

One hint----the matrix chamber door is meant to be flipped up with the grill as well in truck mode, despite looking like it doesn't matter either way. It allows for some more clearance and a tighter parts fit in truck mode.

Gun is a bit weird and maybe a tad undersized for the folding up gimmick, but I do appreciate how that gives the gun a storage space instead of just lying around in truck mode.

Little Spike is fun extra for MP Bumblebee and/or FT Soar as well.

Cliffjumper
2015-08-20, 09:25 PM
Yeh, I'm quite fond of Spike TBH - overall it's a nice package and bits like him, the trailer, Roller etc. make it feel a bit less like I've just spend a bomb on a smaller version of a toy I already have. I've always quite liked G1 Prime's trailer so to have one which can interact with other things a little more reliably is a nice bonus.

Regarding the gun, it's another one of the things that keeps MP from SOC levels to my mind - if the toy was an SoC you'd have the foldable gun and a pimped-out solid version too. If I have one criticism of the MP cars it's that this obsession with weapons storage, the idea that little Timmy will be putting out for one of these after watching AoE on DVD and can't be trusted to remember where he put the accessories when the figure's in vehicle mode.

Tetsuro
2015-08-21, 01:55 AM
Regarding the gun, it's another one of the things that keeps MP from SOC levels to my mind - if the toy was an SoC you'd have the foldable gun and a pimped-out solid version too. If I have one criticism of the MP cars it's that this obsession with weapons storage, the idea that little Timmy will be putting out for one of these after watching AoE on DVD and can't be trusted to remember where he put the accessories when the figure's in vehicle mode.
Yeah, instead SOCs come with separate stands on which all the accessories simply rest on, allowing you to send them all flying if you hit it by accident.

Fortunately Ironhide seems to be going for this approach.

Also I don't know if it's just in mine, but I can never seem to get that door closed properly with the gun inside.