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Denyer 2015-01-08 10:11 PM

Japanese / Asian market exclusives: Masterpiece, Generations, etc
 
MP21G -- Goldbug G2 repaint of Bumblebee. Like this more than the yellow, personally.

http://i.imgur.com/tb9wNOs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tb9wNOs.jpg

Unicron 2015-01-08 10:36 PM

Is that a rocket pack and the g2 Autobot symbol?

And I agree, this does look better than the plain yellow

Denyer 2015-01-08 11:13 PM

Looks like a yes on both counts. The backpack would be a plus as I'd probably re-purpose it for Sideswipe...

Do still really like the Artfeather Goldbug though.

Unicron 2015-01-09 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Denyer (Post 745587)
Looks like a yes on both counts. The backpack would be a plus as I'd probably re-purpose it for Sideswipe...

That assumes it's got the appropriate design to attach to him (that or the obligatory 3rd party adaptor becomes available). Seems like Takara would design it so it would though. I also guess this is their solution to the potential too many exo-suit problem from various repaints.

Warcry 2015-01-09 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Denyer (Post 745581)
MP21G -- Goldbug repaint of Bumblebee. Like this more than the yellow, personally.

Nah, it's G2 Bumblebee. Goldbug has a much different head, it's blue and has a totally different shape. And he was in the cartoon, so they definitely would have done the remolding if it was meant to be Goldbug.

Definitely an improvement over the bland orangish original release, though. It's amazing the difference a new coat of paint can make. Not entirely sure I like it enough to actually buy it, but I'm not scoffing at the idea like I did with the original.

Unicron 2015-01-09 04:59 AM

In other news, Takara is doing another release of MP-10. Due out in/around May. Pre-orders are going up at all the usual places.

zigzagger 2015-01-09 05:41 PM

Re: MP-21G -- Usually not too crazy about chrome myself. Sans the Transmetals stuff, of course; those were fabulous. But this I kinda like. The gold is slightly dulled, so it's not as obnoxious per Takara's usual antics. Makes the mold just pop.

The limbs might be molded in a different shade of black, too.

Will have to agree; I prefer G2 'Bee over the original release.

numbat 2015-01-09 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Warcry (Post 745593)
Definitely an improvement over the bland orangish original release, though.

Were there issues with orange paint? My MP Bumblebee is yellow, and I have to say my favourite Masterpiece to date. Infact he's my favourite Transformer ever.

:-)

I like the gold version, but would only pay out for Goldbug.

Denyer 2015-01-09 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Warcry (Post 745593)
Nah, it's G2 Bumblebee. Goldbug has a much different head, it's blue and has a totally different shape. And he was in the cartoon, so they definitely would have done the remolding if it was meant to be Goldbug.

Oh yeah, there was a regular one as well as the Gobot, wasn't there...

They're going to get a decent number of mould reuses out of this with a new head or two.

I'm liking the G2 love, even if the most iconic one was done with Sideswipe.

AndrewDTurnbull 2015-01-10 12:10 AM

I chucked an order in with Robot Kingdom for this. The G2 homage made it a must buy toy. Though I would still go for an MP Goldbug toy further down the line.

Warcry 2015-01-10 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by zigzagger (Post 745600)
Re: MP-21G -- Usually not too crazy about chrome myself. Sans the Transmetals stuff, of course; those were fabulous. But this I kinda like. The gold is slightly dulled, so it's not as obnoxious per Takara's usual antics. Makes the mold just pop.

Is it even chromed? It's really hard to tell in a picture this size, but it seems too flat to be gold chrome. I was thinking it might actually be a really nice gold paint.

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Originally Posted by Denyer (Post 745603)
Oh yeah, there was a regular one as well as the Gobot, wasn't there...

There was! It was one of the nicest Minibots IMO, though the chrome on mine has started to discolour a bit over the decades.

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Originally Posted by Denyer (Post 745603)
They're going to get a decent number of mould reuses out of this with a new head or two.

The list is pretty deep for this mold, isn't it? Aside from the original and this, there's Goldbug obviously. And red Bumblebee, which a lot of folks will buy as a Cliffjumper stand-in. Then Glyph and Bugbite, and I suppose there's a ton of Latin American decos too. So they definitely won't be hurting for ideas. But like Sideswipe, I doubt they'll put out all of them.

And that's before you consider the possibility that they might reshell the thing as Cliffjumper, Hubcap and Bumper, which is probably a 50/50 proposition.

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Originally Posted by AndrewDTurnbull (Post 745604)
I chucked an order in with Robot Kingdom for this. The G2 homage made it a must buy toy. Though I would still go for an MP Goldbug toy further down the line.

I almost did the same, until I saw the ridiculous shipping rates they were charging to Canada. I've gotten EMS quotes for similar-sized items coming from Asia that were less than what they wanted for bog-standard surface shipping that'll take the better part of a month to get here. No thanks.

I guess I'll wait and see what the price is when he pops up on Japanese sites before I decide whether or not I'm getting one. The G2 homage makes it pretty close to a must-have for me as well, especially since I already have G2 Sideswipe and those two were in my top-five favourite toys when I was little.

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Originally Posted by numbat (Post 745602)
Were there issues with orange paint? My MP Bumblebee is yellow, and I have to say my favourite Masterpiece to date. Infact he's my favourite Transformer ever.

Maybe it's just how he looks in pictures, but the colour looks closer to a block of cheddar cheese than the bright, cheery yellow that I'd expect from a cartoon-based Bumblebee. Of course, that's probably just me being picky on account of how many other good Bumblebee toys I already own. The more toys I own of a character, the higher my standards get for any new one.

Unicron 2015-01-10 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Warcry (Post 745605)
Is it even chromed? It's really hard to tell in a picture this size, but it seems too flat to be gold chrome. I was thinking it might actually be a really nice gold paint.

That definitely looks like a nice paint to me. Small pic yes, but it doesn't have the shine or reflectiveness I normally see on chromed stuff.

At least I hope it's paint and not actually gold plastic...

zigzagger 2015-01-10 05:54 AM

Well, uh... it's shiny anyway. So hush :p

Takara likes making shiny Transformers, often unnecessarily so. For once I like it. Guess that's what I meant.

inflatable dalek 2015-01-10 09:35 AM

For those tnat own it, how easy does it look that they could get a decent Goldbug out of this, complete with hood?

Denyer 2015-01-10 02:33 PM

Could possibly pivot the entire back roof piece around 180 degrees. Suspect it'd need a remould and be a bit fragile. Seems like it'd definitely work as a custom, though.

http://i.imgur.com/4izE113.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4izE113.jpg

Pic from http://chcse.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/...h-exosuit.html

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Originally Posted by Warcry (Post 745605)
The list is pretty deep for this mold, isn't it? Aside from the original and this, there's Goldbug obviously. And red Bumblebee, which a lot of folks will buy as a Cliffjumper stand-in. Then Glyph and Bugbite, and I suppose there's a ton of Latin American decos too. So they definitely won't be hurting for ideas. But like Sideswipe, I doubt they'll put out all of them.

And that's before you consider the possibility that they might reshell the thing as Cliffjumper, Hubcap and Bumper, which is probably a 50/50 proposition.

Could go for either Redbee or Hubcap, personally. I like the design enough but am pretty sick of the BB character / archetype (more what it's become than what it was originally) which is partly why I went for a 3P Goldbug and haven't been thinking about this current redeco as him.

Will still probably snag one of these if I see a good price or it gets knocked off.

inflatable dalek 2015-01-10 03:17 PM

I can see the hood working for GB, I'll probably wait for that (inevitability?) as I've always liked toys that feel like a gooooooooooooooold bug more.

I do have to agree with Warcry, in pictures, even of toys in hand like the one Denyer posted that haven't been photoshopped to buggery like the official ones, the colour just looks oddly wrong for Bumblebee. It should be a more vibrant yellow rather than the borderline orange, I don't think he's ever looked like that in any media.

Warcry 2015-01-11 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Warcry (Post 745605)
I guess I'll wait and see what the price is when he pops up on Japanese sites before I decide whether or not I'm getting one. The G2 homage makes it pretty close to a must-have for me as well, especially since I already have G2 Sideswipe and those two were in my top-five favourite toys when I was little.

That was quick...was able to preorder him at Anime-Export for around $15 less (including shipping, based on the estimates they give for the other MP cars) than what Robot Kingdom would have wanted.

I'm glad they lowered the MSRP from the first MP-21. Charging the same for this little guy as the full-sized cars was downright extortionate, IMO. The price for this version is much more reasonable.

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Originally Posted by Unicron (Post 745606)
That definitely looks like a nice paint to me. Small pic yes, but it doesn't have the shine or reflectiveness I normally see on chromed stuff.

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Originally Posted by inflatable dalek (Post 745619)
I do have to agree with Warcry, in pictures, even of toys in hand like the one Denyer posted that haven't been photoshopped to buggery like the official ones, the colour just looks oddly wrong for Bumblebee. It should be a more vibrant yellow rather than the borderline orange, I don't think he's ever looked like that in any media.

So I'm not going blind after all? That's a relief!

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Originally Posted by Denyer (Post 745616)
Could possibly pivot the entire back roof piece around 180 degrees. Suspect it'd need a remould and be a bit fragile. Seems like it'd definitely work as a custom, though.

They might make it a separate accessory too, like G2 Sideswipe's extra set of shoulder wheels.

I do wonder if this release says that they're not planning a Goldbug, though. With the wide swath of available colour schemes, I would definitely be a little bit surprised to see them do two that are so very similar, much like G2 Sideswipe made a Deep Cover much less likely. At the very least I'd expect to see a few other colours first.

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Originally Posted by Denyer (Post 745616)
Could go for either Redbee or Hubcap, personally.

The one that would really make me go nuts is G2 Hubcap, but something tells me that's taking things one step too far.

I am very curious to see if they retool this into a cutesy Porsche or Mazda, though. On the one hand you'd expect them too because it's cartoon-accurate, but on the other hand it would really go against the "fully realistic licensed cars" theme they've devoted a lot of energy to. I half-expect them go crazy and try to get cartoon Cliffjumper out of a real-world Porsche (which they could probably do, though I suspect it'd be a fiddly mess).

Denyer 2015-01-11 05:10 PM

Decided to give Anime Export a shot as well.

zigzagger 2015-01-16 06:49 PM

MP-23 Deco Update
 
In other Masterpiece-related news, Takara's tweaking Exhaust's deco so as not to conflict with Marlboro's trademark.

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-...update-181864/

Warcry 2015-01-16 09:21 PM

If that's all it takes to satisfy the lawyers, I'm pleasantly surprised. It's not much of a change at all, really. Or at least, no more of a change than the original Exhaust deco was from the Diaclone toy.

Hopefully it means US buyers will be able to order the thing now.

Tetsuro 2015-01-17 02:42 AM

Ironically, Marlboro probably gave Takara better marketing than what they could've dreamed of :p

Knightdramon 2015-01-17 02:18 PM

Do not mind the difference. His release date has been bumped to March with Star Saber.

zigzagger 2015-02-21 05:18 AM

And MP-25 is....
 
Tracks!

In prototype stage, mind, but not too shabby, not too shabby at all. The Stingray alt mode is looking quite sexy as well. And I here I thought Takara was going to stick with using the '84 cars for base molds :)

Sades 2015-02-21 06:57 AM

He's looking a little... uh... "slender", there. Not bad, but seems oddly thin to me.

Knightdramon 2015-02-21 08:38 AM

Expected, and I'm super excited for him.

Tracks, Sideswipe and Jazz were the three most sought after autobot cars when I was a kid, and it looks like we're 2 out of 3 ready in that regards.

It does look a tad lanky, but it's probably the angle and the fact that his waist is turned.

So I'm guessing the rumours are true for Ironhide later on. According to the rumours, Tracks is supposed to come with a Raoul mini fig and a little Blaster tape deck.

Warcry 2015-02-21 04:18 PM

Agreed with Sades...Tracks definitely came out a good bit skinnier than his original toy or character model would suggest. I like it, though! Cartoon Tracks probably had the most boring look of all the Autobot cars, and the original toy was really forgettable too compared to the likes of Prowl or Skids or Sideswipe.

I'm a bit surprised by this myself, but I suppose I shouldn't be. Tracks might not be the most popular of the remaining Autobot cars, but GM is easy to work with and the Corvette is probably the most iconic American car ever. Kinda makes me wonder if Windcharger is in the near future, since the Trans Am is pretty high on that list as well.

Denyer 2015-02-21 06:28 PM

Hopefully they might get a black repaint out of it.

Unicron 2015-02-21 06:35 PM

Tracks looks better than I would have expected. As noted, a bit thin, but that's probably due to the seemingly accurate alt-mode. As always, more pics shall be good.

Though I have to say I'm a little disappointed the various MP Megatron V2 rumors didn't pan out. Oh well.

Cliffjumper 2015-02-21 08:34 PM

Like him. Yeh, would have preferred a fraction more mass around the hips, though that might come out when painted (the lower torso is either a bit of a fudge or not snapped together quite right).

Was never crazy about the toy or the character model but that's done a decent job of combining both to come out with something quite servicable. First impressions are he's a lot more anime-styled than the other MPs thus far, which to me isn't a bad thing. Better than a blue Wheeljack with his trousers on backwards at any rate.

I'd be lying if I said Tracks was anywhere near the top of my "next MP wanted" list but I'll go with it.

zigzagger 2015-02-21 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliffjumper (Post 746663)
First impressions are he's a lot more anime-styled than the other MPs thus far, which to me isn't a bad thing.

That's what came to mind, what with the lithe, slightly exaggerated features one may see in a mecha series.

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I'd be lying if I said Tracks was anywhere near the top of my "next MP wanted" list but I'll go with it.
Yeah, as far as the '85ers go, I would've liked to have seen Skids first. Though personally, I'm more curious to see what Takara can do with the likes of Hound, Ratchet, or Trailbreaker.

Cliffjumper 2015-02-21 09:52 PM

Yeh - Skids' original toy is actually quite well proportioned (as are the Datsun and the Lambo) and I can kind-of 'see' the Masterpiece, it's just a matter of articulating, smoothing and detailing, especially as the animation model kept most of the stuff hanging off the back of him. Some of the weirder ones I'm more curious on, especially the ones who were radically changed for the cartoon - though with high optimism after Wheeljack turned out so well.

Tracks could be a smart commercial move, mind - the sort of figure people might skip if they put him out towards the end, more likely to shift while the hype and anticipation is high. Plus there are at least two good repaint options (red and black).

A new Megatron would be nice but I can see why Takara are a little reluctant; the character just doesn't have the commercial draw Prime does, if they keep the gun (which they surely will for MP) the engineering's a nightmare and the repaint possibilites are limited.

Clay 2015-02-21 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Warcry (Post 746656)
I'm a bit surprised by this myself, but I suppose I shouldn't be. Tracks might not be the most popular of the remaining Autobot cars, but GM is easy to work with and the Corvette is probably the most iconic American car ever.

Keep in mind also that they didn't have any problems licensing the Corvette for Binaltech Tracks, ROTF Sideswipe, or AOE Crosshairs. Given that, Tracks was probably the most likely of the cars to have official blessing.

Tetsuro 2015-02-22 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliffjumper (Post 746665)
A new Megatron would be nice but I can see why Takara are a little reluctant; the character just doesn't have the commercial draw Prime does, if they keep the gun (which they surely will for MP) the engineering's a nightmare and the repaint possibilites are limited.

Well to be honest, what repaints have we gotten out of MP-10 so far? They skipped the obvious Ultra Magnus repaint, the YotD repaint was by Hasbro, and the only other one I can think off the top of my head is the weird Evangelion exclusive.

I would imagine the best repaint oppoturnity for Megatron would be the black Microman version.

Knightdramon 2015-02-22 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tetsuro (Post 746683)
Well to be honest, what repaints have we gotten out of MP-10 so far? They skipped the obvious Ultra Magnus repaint, the YotD repaint was by Hasbro, and the only other one I can think off the top of my head is the weird Evangelion exclusive.

I would imagine the best repaint oppoturnity for Megatron would be the black Microman version.

You're skipping a few.

MP10
Hasbro MP10
Takara MP10 Black
Takara MP10A [that green bape repaint]
Hasbro YOTH
Takara Evangelion

That's plenty of uses out of an already expensive mould. Furthermore, MP10 is being reissued plenty of times throughout, whether it's hasbro or takara or hasbro asia.

I don't think Megatron is that marketable, as it will effectively cut out his Hasbro counterpart.

Denyer 2015-02-22 06:42 PM

It hasn't held them back before, hasn't prevented a current re-release, and isn't holding back third parties that do relatively small runs. Think it'll happen, but not any time soon.

Clay 2015-02-22 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Knightdramon (Post 746686)
You're skipping a few.

MP10
Hasbro MP10
Takara MP10 Black
Takara MP10A [that green bape repaint]
Hasbro YOTH
Takara Evangelion

Yeah, I wasn't even thinking of the actual repaints before you listed those. My thought immediately went to Takara using the mold as-is two or three times now, Hasbro Asia a couple of times, and Hasbro a couple of times now. As it is, MP10 isn't a mold that even needs to be repainted to recoup cost - they just need to periodically re-release it as Convoy because the demand for it seems to be constant.

Cliffjumper 2015-02-22 07:16 PM

Yup, and MP-10 is only a couple of years old; Takara will probably eventually milk the mould for at least as long as MP-1; I'd wager it'll be kept going as long as MP V2. Prime's got the pull that tweaked variants can sell to casuals on their own merit while also snaring completist maniacs and tidying up on those who missed the last release (personally I missed MP-10 and will happily jump at a normal colour version with, I dunno, a little model of Chip Chase or whatever).

Megatron frankly doesn't, or we'd have seen miscellaneous variants or at least a reissue of the first one at some point between its' first release and the line being revamped. Reckon he'll come out around the time of figures that have "retail" repaint potential (Ratchet/Ironhide, Inferno/Grapple, Trailbreaker/Hoist) so the budget's nice and in the black.

I'd probably bite for a to-scale Megatron with the caveat he'd basically be an Action Master for me so the robot mode had better be good. Would prefer Shockwave or a downsized robot-scale Seeker, though.

Unicron 2015-02-22 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliffjumper (Post 746692)
personally I missed MP-10 and will happily jump at a normal colour version with, I dunno, a little model of Chip Chase or whatever).

Takara is doing a straight re-issue of it in May. Don't think it's going to come with anything new, but tis a good way of getting one for non-stupid prices.
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Megatron frankly doesn't, or we'd have seen miscellaneous variants or at least a reissue of the first one at some point between its' first release and the line being revamped.
Well, there was that recent random gold tinted release. Still not sure why they did that.

And as much as I'd like them to have another go at Megatron, hopefully taking more than 2 weeks on it this time, I think I'd actually rather see an MP Galvatron at this point. Magnus needs someone to go toe-to-toe with.

Knightdramon 2015-02-22 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Denyer (Post 746689)
It hasn't held them back before, hasn't prevented a current re-release, and isn't holding back third parties that do relatively small runs. Think it'll happen, but not any time soon.

Oh there's no denying it will. Thankfully TT appear to not really care how feasible most of their products for the MP line are to the US/rest of the world market and keep on making these sweet things.

It'll be epic and funny if TT releases MP Megatron V2 just in time with their V3 of Prime or whatever :lol:

Lots and I mean LOTS of butthurt for Tracks so far, can't deny I'm a bit saddened by the overall lukewarm response. You'd think after MP Magnus, Exhaust and Star Saber in a row, people would get the hint that TT is not going to focus solely on S1...right? :lol:

What intrigues me about Tracks [in the ONE relatively bad quality pic, yes] is that he's a tad more...stylized than the super retro Prowl and Sideswipe. Wheeljack has some liberties taken, yes, and Bumblebee is a bit on his own league, but Tracks looks even more anime-proportioned than the other bots so far.

Tetsuro 2015-02-23 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Knightdramon (Post 746698)
Lots and I mean LOTS of butthurt for Tracks so far

Can't really fathom it. I mean, the 1985 characters can't be that unpopular, plus I'd imagine Jazz is still at least partially sitting in licensing hell. Who else does that leave us with, Sunstreaker? Hoist? Ratchet? Ironhide? Come to think of it, I take that back. But still, he's a pre-movie character, surely that has to count for something, right?

...right? :(


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