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Tetsuro 2016-11-10 07:57 AM

Movie thread, or; what movie did you watch last?
I know there's that DVD thread but that doesn't mean you've just watched them too. You might've watched a movie you got ages ago, or maybe just something on netflix.

I've been sitting through the Puppet Master films because I discovered it has ten sequels and I can't help but feel attracted to terrible horror sequels. Unfortunately, I'm only up to part 3 so far and none of them have been terrible, apart from the obviously low budget, although the stop motion sequences are miles better than the one in The Basket Case. The worst they can do is inconsistency about the nature of the guy who actually created them; in the first movie he's fleeing from the nazis and commits suicide before they get to him; in the second movie the puppets raise him from the dead and he becomes the villain and kills people, but the third movie makes him sorta the good guy again by taking place in nazi Germany and using his puppets to kill nazis.

I also watched Conan the Destroyer. I discussed the movie with someone, namely how the hall of mirrors scene has stuck with me since childhood when I guess my siblings had rented it or something and managed to catch that little of the film (I wasn't supposed to see it), and they called it a quintessential D&D scene; it got me thinking, this movie is probably a better D&D movie than, well, Dungeons & Dragons.

Auntie Slag 2016-11-10 07:07 PM

Mousehunt. I haven't seen it for about 12 years, but its still great. Very Tom & Jerry-style. Nathan Lane is superb, funnier than Lee Evans I think, and the film has a great look to it.

Skyquake87 2016-11-11 08:47 PM

I watched Aliens the other night. I must have watched it a billion times, but if its on the telly and I do find myself watching it. Still love it.

Quite often watch some guff on the horror channel. Saw a weird one about a plastic surgeon who sewed up a girls bits and removed her nipples so she could look like barbie. One of the Hostels, which I didn't make it past 40 minutes because it was just sh*te. Set in some weird club where they cut people up for the amusement of rich folk.

Tetsuro 2016-11-12 09:18 AM

I did not expect Robert Vaughn to kick the bucket this week, so it did not factor into my decision at all to re-watch all the Superman movies (although I may have to watch 3 sooner than I thought because of it), but I did watch Superman II the other day, and seeing it for the umpteenth time did make me realize how different it actually is from the first film, directorially.

IIRC only about 20% of the film is from before they sacked Richard Donner? The rest of it definitely feels more like the movie that followed it, in the way many of the shots are staged and lit, while clearly still having greater production values. It's especially obvious in the big city fight, which still holds up well to this day. Saying CGI isn't as good as practical effects may be a tired old horse, but some of the shots - like the one where Non gets punted through a high-rise building, and we get to see it from an indoor perspective - really do make me wonder how they accomplished the effect. With CGI, the answer would be fairly obvious.

Auntie Slag 2016-11-13 09:26 AM

The Opposite of Sex: Black comedy drama thing with Christina Ricci, Phoebe from Friends, Leonard from The Big Bang Theory and Lyle Lovett (Julia Roberts first husband).

It came out in 1998, it was brilliant then and still is now. Probably sank without trace at the box office because of stellar hits like Lost In Space, Armageddon and Species II were out.

That and its a bit of a cantankerous sort of film, but well worth watching.

Heinrad 2016-11-13 01:27 PM

Robert Vaughn died? That sucks.

Given the way they were filming Superman and Superman II, Donner had filmed enough footage to have the second movie a little over half done before the Salkinds, figuring that Warner Bros. was going to have them shot if they didn't get a film out, told him to get an edit of Superman done and then he could finish Superman II. Apparently the turning back time ending was supposed to be for the second movie, as Zod and Co. had pretty much wrecked everything.

They then fired Donner and brought in Richard Lester to finish Superman II, having him refilm certain scenes so that he would have directed 51% of the movie and therefore could claim credit for the whole thing. Although no matter what happened, the odds were good Jor-El wouldn't have been in it even if Donner hadn't been sacked. Brando saw how much money Superman was making and wanted to renegotiate his contract.

They found all of the Donner footage in a vault in England somewhere, and Donner was able to finally do his version of Superman II. It's more even, tone wise, but also a bit jarring in spots. The honeymoon suite scene is done using audition footage.

I watched the first Puppet Master movie over Halloween, and it was pretty good, if low budget. In fact, I watched a lot of Full Moon Studios stuff over Halloween. Dollman is excellent, and HIDEOUS! is a lot of fun.

Tetsuro 2016-11-13 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Heinrad (Post 761438)
They found all of the Donner footage in a vault in England somewhere, and Donner was able to finally do his version of Superman II. It's more even, tone wise, but also a bit jarring in spots. The honeymoon suite scene is done using audition footage.

My biggest issue with the Donner cut is that it basically exists in it's own universe; that is, one where the first movie had a different ending, leading into a much smoother transition to the second. Such as it is, the time-reversing ending in the Donner cut comes off too much as a "here we go again" type of thing.

I think in the end, the Lester version will remain the film everybody remembers. Speaking of alternate versions, what bums me about Superman IV isn't so much the fact that Warner or nobody else bothered to try making a proper "extended cut" of the film, with the proto-Nuclear Man and all, but the fact that the video release in Europe contained additional scenes which aren't on the DVD or blu-ray, namely the tornado and the Red Square; we only get them in the deleted scenes gallery. It'd be nice to at least see some kind of fan-made cuts of 3 and 4, but Warner made sure to nip that one at the bud by only including fullscreen versions of them - and a lot of the "deleted" scenes on the S3 disc are less like deleted scenes and more like outtakes.

Heinrad 2016-11-15 04:19 AM

I'd love to know what the original ending for Superman would have been. Although I get the impression Donner isn't sure what it would have been, either. Don't get me wrong, what happened was pretty sucky, but I can see why the Salkinds were getting worried.

I've never seen all of Superman IV.

Brendocon 2.0 2016-11-15 09:16 AM

Saw Arrival the other day. I thought it was really good if you've not seen Interstellar, Contact or more than three episodes of the Twilight Zone.

Sound mixing was top though.

Skyquake87 2016-11-15 07:12 PM

I watched the Neon Demon which I also bought... which thread to use?!!

I liked Drive, so was hoping for more monosyallabic weirdness with a nice thumping synth score. And this is definitely weird. I liked it! A film you experience, rather than make much sense of. Something about beauty and blah, I dunno. Once it got murdery and strange, that message gets kind of lost.

Brendocon 2.0 2016-11-15 07:17 PM

Neon Demon was great. That and The Nice Guys are probably my top two films of the year.

Going into a Refn film expecting it to be anything like a previous one is folly. FOLLY.

Skyquake87 2016-11-15 07:20 PM

Oh, I didn't expect it to be the same. I loved Drive and was keen to see this. Really want the score now *trots off to a well known online retailer out of laziness*


Brendocon 2.0 2016-11-15 07:21 PM

His scores are always awesome. You seen Only God Forgives at all?

Skyquake87 2016-11-15 07:25 PM

No! Drive was the first of is I saw. Whats OGF about? Or is that a silly question?

Brendocon 2.0 2016-11-15 07:27 PM

It's sort of a cop/mobster revenge drama. It's... an experience. Definitely recommend watching it, though can't vouch for whether you'll enjoy it at all.

Skyquake87 2016-11-15 07:28 PM

I watch lots of things I'm never sure I'll enjoy, so I'll have a punt. Thanks!

Skyquake87 2016-11-15 07:35 PM

And bought. For 1.27. Hooray!

Cyberstrike nTo 2016-11-16 01:10 PM

V for Vendetta because it's a fun movie and I needed something to cheer me up.

Heinrad 2016-11-17 12:45 AM

Star Trek Beyond because I needed to renew my hope for the future.

And I got Star Trek Beyond.

Sades 2016-11-18 04:48 AM

Watched Finding Dory with the small one this eve. Very good film, it was a little predictable but enjoyable. OMG BABY DORY IS SO SQUISHY. I <3 Hank.

inflatable dalek 2016-11-18 10:42 AM


Hmm. Soylent Green. The ending is much more subdued than you'd expect from all the spoofs (Chuck is bleeding to death so there's no overthrowing of tables and running about), but it's still a good solid little environmental thriller. And set bang in the middle of Trump's second term as well, so more prophetic than it might seem.

Brendocon 2.0 2016-12-02 03:14 PM

Watched the live action Lundgren/Langella MotU movie this week. Cheesy fun, even if the ending is a half-arsed rush job. Okay they spent the entire action budget on sets and costumes, but holy **** they went all out on the sets and costumes. It's tonally massively removed from the cartoon, but at least they didn't make it into a shit comedy.

Langella is clearly having an absolute ball. It's a shame Lundgren decided to base his performance on the toy though.

My brain did collapse in a little bit when Skeletor screamed "and you no longer exist" about ten years before DiTillio & Forward would recycle the line for Beast Wars. This movie is not written by DiTillio or Forward, though it was a bit surreal given their connection to both franchises.

inflatable dalek 2016-12-02 03:18 PM

It looks surprisingly good on blu ray. It just shows what you can do with no money if everyone involved is determined to fully throw themselves into it (I'm sure Dolph is at least trying).

And Langella is fantastic, I genuinely think it's one of the great kids film's villains performances and it so deserves to be in a better known film. Meg Foster is great as well.

I'm not sure why Mr. Strickland changed his name and became a cop though.

Brendocon 2.0 2016-12-02 03:25 PM

Yeah, Foster's great in it too. It's nice that everyone involved took it seriously. I was concerned with how badly it would have aged given I've not seen it since probably about 1989, but it stands up fairly well.

Still bizarre how far removed it is from the source in terms of style. She-Ra only aired its last episode eight months before this was released. At least Bay waited about 20 years before doing his "grown up" take on Transformers.

Wasn't aware it was out on blu ray. It aired at a local film festival this year where one of the selling points was films that don't have HD transfers. Though my DVD copy looked fine on its own (bad inkjet-quality sleeve aside), so it must just be a good quality original print.

inflatable dalek 2016-12-02 03:31 PM

Not in this country sadly, but I have the German blu. I think there's an American one as well with the surprisingly fun DVD director's commentary, but that was a tad expensive.

When talking about it on twitter when I watched it people mentioned a lot of the differences were down to Canon having bought the rights before the cartoon and thus only owning stuff from the original toy pack in stuff (so no Prince Adam for example). Of course, things like Orko are presumably down to the budget, creating a new midget character was probably easier than using a flying rig all the time. though it's a perhanps surprising sign of fidelity they didn't just call the new guy Orko anyway.

Oh, and fun fact, because Michael Westmore did the makeup for both, the Skeletor costume is in several episodes of Star Trek as one of Worf's holodeck monsters.

Brendocon 2.0 2016-12-02 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by inflatable dalek (Post 761631)
When talking about it on twitter when I watched it people mentioned a lot of the differences were down to Canon having bought the rights before the cartoon and thus only owning stuff from the original toy pack in stuff (so no Prince Adam for example).

That's plausible. Though fair play for doing their own [Kirby-esque] thing with it rather than trying to ape something they've only got part of the rights for. It's nice that they leaned more into the sci-fi aspect than the swords/sorcery setting - probably easier to do with practical effects.

And yeah I did read somewhere that Gwildor was a sub for Orko because they couldn't do a floating character. There's some scenes with people flying about on sky sleds but it looks really cheap and it's only literally a couple of shots. The logistics of having one of the primary cast done in that style would have just been impractical.

Tetsuro 2016-12-02 04:56 PM

Watched the extended cut of Rambo (2008). If it wasn't for the gratuitous use of CGI gore, I could easily say it's more brutal than Cannibal Holocaust, what with the impaling of small children, people exploding left and right, and all the casual bloodshed - just, without any real animal deaths.

Either way, it was still a lot better than Rambo III.

Brendocon 2.0 2016-12-15 11:23 PM

Just saw Rogue One. It's definitely in the top 5 Star Wars movies.

Brendocon 2.0 2016-12-23 12:57 PM

So Passengers is in no way what the trailers made it out to be

SPOILER! (select to read)
Instead of being the story of two people who wake up early on a space flight, it's the story of one guy who wakes up early on a space flight, then spends months fantasising about one of the sleeping female passengers before deciding to wake her up so he's got some company. Despite knowing that they'll both die before they reach their planned destination.

So essentially it's about a guy who stalks a woman he's never actually met, before deciding to kill her.

Of course this might not be quite so bad if not for the fact that she ends up forgiving him and they both live happily ever after. Because stalkers need absolution too.

So, y'know, that's a thing...

Tetsuro 2016-12-23 04:15 PM

That sounds almost as bad as the Lifetime Christmas movie Nostalgia Critic and Cinema Snob reviewed earlier this week.

That one had the stalker's victim not only already dating somebody, but said somebody was easily the most reasonable person in the film while the movie tried so damn hard to make them unlikeable while ultimately coming off as little more than mild acts of pettiness and bitchiness. Totally worth dumping them for and hooking up with the stalker!

inflatable dalek 2016-12-23 04:19 PM

But isn't love just two stalkers that have picked each other as a victim?

Tetsuro 2016-12-23 04:23 PM

I wouldn't know. Love is a strange and confusing concept to me so of course romantic subplots just fill me with rage.

Scotimus Prime 2017-03-02 04:52 PM

Went to see Logan today, it was fantastic & well worth seeing

Blitzwing 2017-03-02 08:11 PM

I saw Get Out a couple nights ago, it was great, and I'm not even a horror movie fan. It had a perfect mix of suspense, drama and comedy. I'd highly recommend it.

Auntie Slag 2017-03-03 11:47 AM

The original Rocky, because a few months ago I bought Rocky Balboa and its quite a cool film, Rock's a really nice guy.

The original is good too, but its quite slow paced. It feels much like the original Star Wars films compared to the prequels which are all lots of colours and movement, wacky characters and boring dialogue.

So yeah, last week I bought Rocky I, II and III. Watched the first one so far, I've always wanted to see Rocky V (I know its usually the most hated of the lot), but I liked the premise behind it. I like watching these films because I haven't seen them since the mid-80's probably, and apart from the famous ending I felt like I'd never watched the original before.

Blitzwing 2017-03-03 05:11 PM

I've always been a fan of the Rocky franchise, the first one stands out as it's more of a character piece about Rocky than it is about boxing. It also sets the tone well for making it seem ridiculous that Rocky would even stand a chance of lasting more than a couple rounds against Apollo.

The most recent Creed movie was a great revival for the franchise, I'm curious to see how it will do once Stallone is no longer in the picture.

My rankings for Rocky movies are:
Rocky III
Rocky II
Rocky IV
Rocky Balboa
Rocky V

Scotimus Prime 2017-03-04 10:02 AM

I can't believe that noone else on here hasn't seen Logan yet!

Skyquake87 2017-03-05 09:42 PM

I can't believe it's not butter.

Watched the two Burton Batman flicks over the weekend. The Nolan stuff is cool and all, but these are still my favourite cinematic version of Bats (closely followed by Lego Batman). Burton just nails everything that's ace and weird about the Batman comics. I love how Gotham looks miserable even in the daytime too! I spent a lot of time marveling at the production design this time through. He's eerie fairy tale look was a good fit for Batman.

Brendocon 2.0 2017-03-06 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Scotimus Prime (Post 763032)
I can't believe that noone else on here hasn't seen Logan yet!

So you're assuming that everyone here has seen it? My head hurts.

Any chance you can ditch the 15 line sig when posting a one-line comment btw?

inflatable dalek 2017-03-06 02:32 PM

I have seen Logan! Feel bad for not liking it as much as everyone else as it does try very hard and Jackman and Stewart are both brilliant (everyone who isn't Richard E. Grant is good--his problem is more he's given nothing to work with,--it's just they raise things to a whole new level when onscreen).

But it's a needlessly long film. You can't really create drama out of whether Logan will Do The Right Thing after ample evidence of him Doing The Right Thing nearly every time across the series. I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but the last hour and a half is not him fishing off a boat. If they'd minimised that (which goes on almost to the end) you'd have had a shorter film with more characters left alive at the end.

Also a very cynical film. Really not sure what the point of rebooting everything with Days of Future Past and ressuecting everyone was when two movies later the starting premise is The X-Men get killed off offscreen between films.

I think it's impact as an intended grand finale also suffers from knowing the current X-films are set earlier. Jackman could presumably show up in any and all of them if they threw enough money at him.

And the villains are terrible. The henchman is the best developed out of the three. The Surprise Baddy (though a marvellous WTF moment when they first appear) is mute and doesn't feel that tough, and Grant as mentioned has has nothing.

That all sounds more negative than it felt...but yeah, for me personally not anywhere up to its reputation.

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