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Old 2004-12-10, 10:22 AM   #17
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I'm not entirely sure about what you're getting at, but I think you're asking me whether or not I would consider the ones you named to be Transformers. My answer then is as long as it's under the Transformer's logo, carries some official Transformer faction symbol (Autobot, Decepticon, Maximal, etc.), and is/was able to transform at some point, at least in theory, then yes, I would consider them TFs.
 
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