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Old 2005-11-27, 07:11 PM   #1
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Default Play.com listings for reprints of Dreamwave's G1 series

Thanks to reporting at Seibs for these:

Volume One
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page...91&g=148&pa=sr

Volume Two
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page...91&g=148&pa=sr

I would seriously recommend that if anyone hasn't looked at DW yet, they borrow a copy to read before buying. Or just wait for IDW's own take on Transformers in January, and get the preview issue of original material they released a few weeks ago. What you're getting in these two DW trade paperbacks is a first volume that the author of the second wrote off almost immediately, and a second volume that barely has an end (the decision was taken during production to it run it into an ongoing volume three. Which then dropped the plot and went on tangents.)

If you read Volume 2 #6 you'll have a decent idea of everything DW had solidified in print up until that point, and if you track down MTMTE #8, you'll have a fair chunk of what were their upcoming ideas. Yes, I am biased. I've read them.

Quick guide to the Dreamwave Transformers comics:

http://tfarchive.com/comics/dreamwave/



I can't emphasise enough that IDW Publishing are not directly connected to Dreamwave. They just have reprint rights to TF material in general.
 
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Old 2005-11-28, 03:14 AM   #2
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Default Re: Play.com listings for reprints of Dreamwave's G1 series

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Yes, I am biased. I've read them.
So have I. And so, to give this thread some balance, I will say that Vol. 1 is worth the read, and Vol. 2 is one of the most kickass TF stories around.




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Old 2005-11-28, 07:22 AM   #3
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Indeed. I do think it's worth people trying to read a bit of any series before buying into it, though.

If IDW decide to take some of the Dreamwave stories forward once their own books are in full swing and all the legal issues are sorted, I'll be interested to see what they do with it. Until then it feels a bit like reading Stormwatch: Team Achilles in the knowledge it has no published end.

And I really hate that "new edition of the long out-of-print classic" tagline in the Play listings; it suggests the titles are older than they are, and is likely to confuse casual buyers and friends/relatives buying for others. The first volume came out in 2002, and the existing trade paperback stayed in print for a while.
 
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Old 2005-11-28, 12:27 PM   #4
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I'd also question the use of the word "classic", unless it now translates as "tedious, unreadable tripe".
 
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Old 2005-11-28, 01:48 PM   #5
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are they really worth getting? as i can't borrow one of someone i want to know if they're worth the money to purchase them in Feb & March
 
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Old 2005-11-28, 02:42 PM   #6
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Well, you've got reviews by Cliffy, Bombshell, me, and others on this site. If you hunt around on a.t.t. there are some fairly in-depth reviews by ZacWilliam... he liked them more...

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...rch+this+group

My answer: no, but think for yourself for once.
 
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Old 2005-11-28, 02:45 PM   #7
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i do Denyer but i want to know if its worth the 20pounds for the lot or if its worth waiting for them digitally:rolleyes: i think i will get them just cause i like the look of them
 
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Old 2005-11-28, 02:57 PM   #8
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Digitally? These reprints mean no-one's going to bother scanning the comics, let alone hosting them other than on p2p.

That said, if I can find them easily and if it'll stop this incessant pissing of questions, I can probably jam poor-quality scans of the first couple of issues up somewhere.
 
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Old 2005-11-28, 05:49 PM   #9
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i only have volume 1,
might get volume 2, it makes sense, not buying the first one you know
 
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Old 2005-11-28, 06:26 PM   #10
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i only have volume 1,
might get volume 2, it makes sense, not buying the first one you know
Volume 2 has little referencing to the first volume, and you could pretty much read them both as stand alone stories.

Which is a mistake on the part of James and Adam, I think. Still, as a product on its own, Vol. 2 was awesome stuff IMO. Granted, it was fanwank stuff, but somehow it delivered an epic feel to it. What impresses me most is that despite its incredibly enormous cast, there is quite ample individual characterization. In other words, it wasn't "stick this guy here and this guy there just to include them" kind of stuff ala Budiansky's late Marvel run.

As far as what I didn't like, I think too much was crammed into the last issue, without an adequately conclusive ending. And Pat Lee's balloony artwork was annoying at times.

Overall, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
 
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Old 2005-11-28, 08:02 PM   #11
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I was reading Cliffjumpers reviews of the DW G1 and on-going series last night and I am certainly in the mood for these now.

I'd say its a bit of a bargain compared to the £2+ whatever an individual issue cost at the time, and as long as its all full colour i'll be happy. Perhaps it will then encourage them to publish the War Within series too. I see this as something like the Collected Comics series of the 80's, maybe a few quid more, but I'm a grown up now.

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Old 2005-11-28, 08:12 PM   #12
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I know the item description thingey has to sell the product big time, but these take a few liberties... "Long out of print"? At most a couple of years counts as a long time? Not to mention the Forbiden Planet in Derby had bugger loads of copies last time I was in there... And "Superstar artist" to describre Porsche Lee?
 
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Old 2005-11-28, 10:50 PM   #13
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I know the item description thingey has to sell the product big time, but these take a few liberties... "Long out of print"? At most a couple of years counts as a long time?
I agree with you that I hardly consider DW "long out print" but I guess it's just matter someone's point-of-view.
To some people I guess 2 years quailifies as "long out of print".

But to me the term "Long out print" to me means books like Miracle/Marvelman or Atlantis Chroncles that haven't trade paper back (Miracle/Marvelman needs some new tpbs and in the case of AC; DC still hasn't relesead a tpb of it) and/or that they haven't any new material (i.e. new mini/maxi/ongoing series) between
5-10 years. But that's just me though.
 

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Old 2005-11-29, 02:58 AM   #14
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Does any one know when IDW are releasing the tf comics in Australia?
 
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Old 2005-11-29, 08:48 AM   #15
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Which TF comics? I know people in Oz who already have the #0 preview issue from their local stockists.
 
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Old 2005-11-29, 08:53 AM   #16
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by Digitally i mean on the Internet for free :rolleyes:
 
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Old 2005-11-29, 10:06 AM   #17
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These reprints mean no-one's going to bother scanning the comics, let alone hosting them other than on p2p.

 
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Does any one know when IDW are releasing the tf comics in Australia?
They're being distributed by Diamond, which means specialist comic shops.
 
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Old 2005-11-29, 10:33 AM   #19
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by Digitally i mean on the Internet for free :rolleyes:
I give up, I really ****ing do. Remind me not to bother in the future.
 
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Old 2005-11-29, 10:47 AM   #20
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by Digitally i mean on the Internet for free
They're out there for anyone who looks, but should be taken as the opportunity to get a taster of material—one, people will not hand illicit things out on a plate, and two, ask again how you can bilk people (IDW) I like and who are doing good things for this community out of money and you will not be coming back here.

Under no circumstances will I recommend something against honest opinion, but don't confuse that with endorsement of freeloading.
 
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