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Old 2017-10-15, 12:15 PM   #841
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Not sure about the Shada DVD, I do know the all time best seller Genesis did about 70 000 copies in its first year, so whilst I'm assuming a fag end of the line packed in with an old documentary release wouldn't have been one of their peak sellers, it's a fair point it's probably more than a few 1000.

A heavily promoted DVD/blu Ray release with new Tom Baker stuff should easily outpace it though.

One point I few people on GB have made is that several of the missing stories have already had as many or even more "Official" releases than Shada (anything up to and including book, CD, MP3 CD, audio download, partial video release, partial DVD release, "Complete" animated DVD release... the Wheel in Space recon is even on an American streaming service for some reason no one quite understands!) so it's not as if they're being ignored at the expense of the unfinished story.
 
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Old 2017-10-23, 10:52 PM   #842
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Bit of a storm brewing around the latest DWM... add together the first letter of every sentence in “The Watcher’s” column and it reads PANINI AND BBC WORKDWIDE ARE C**TS (censored in case Ralph Burns is reading).

DWM have asked fans to keep this quiet, because this could lose them their BBC licence, and the major DW forums seem to be co-operating by deleting all posts about it. But it’s kinda funny.
 

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Old 2017-10-24, 06:07 AM   #843
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The effort that must have taken is insane (though it doesn't quite flow, which really the editor should have spotted and asked for a rewrite on even if they didn't notice the hidden words). I certainly hope the motivation was more than the new editor not keeping them on, else that's excessive.
 
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Old 2017-10-24, 07:02 PM   #844
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Type it all out starting a new line at a time then delete the spaces inbetween; it's much easier to do it that way than to get it to flow in a layout Mona Simpson style because you can vary all the sentence lengths so they're natural. My posts and sites are genuinely packed with it.
 
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Old 2017-10-24, 07:49 PM   #845
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I like the 'In A Nutshell' closing
 
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Old 2017-10-27, 04:29 PM   #846
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We've all just been rereading everything Cliffy ever wrote haven't we?

There's this weird thing with the digital version where rather than removing the page they've rewritten it so as to remove the sneakiness. The "Don't talk about!" stance in the thread on Gallifrey base is pretty much comedy gold as well.

In other news, in the run up to Christmas I've decided to try and psych up for it with a run of regeneration stories, Moff Highlights and general associated gubbins. Starting with The Other Other Hartnell in the Five Doctors earlier in the week.

As I've watched Tenth Planet recently, I'll hopefully be ploughing through The War Games tomorrow...
 
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Old 2017-11-03, 07:36 AM   #847
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The latest issue of Private Eye has some background on the kerfuffle at the mag...

Worldwide (the beeb''s commercial arm) have been irked by the mag's increasing independence and seized on recent interviewees comments on Brexit and Trump as evidence of political bias, which is a no-no for BBC mags and launched a full inquiry, insisting all those who work on the magazine undergo a training course.

The previous editor also fell out with BBC Wales after being critical of Class (which from having read, whilst critical of the decisions made around the broadcast and promotion of the show, was actually supportive of the programme!) and took a pay off and left.

Panini have also taken to slashing the magazine's budget, which has meant several long running columns are being axed, hence the acrostic in the above.
 
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Old 2017-11-03, 08:10 PM   #848
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The Watcher has also been outed as regular Dalek operator (and David Bowie biographer!) Nick Pegg.

The former editor of DWM has been keen to point out he wasn't paid out and left the mag at exactly the time he'd been planning to do for years (the same time the Moff left).

However, other bits of the PE piece have been confirmed as true, in particular that everyone who writes for the mag has had to go on a political neutrality course.

It's interesting the BBC have so firmly come out as saying Pegg was sacked. That means either this Watcher column was intended to be the last (either it was going on for a few more months, or even right up to the end of the 100 objects idea in about a year, but with much firmer constraints stopping things like the anti-Trump piece he wrote last year) or he was still down for some other work on the book.

That's assuming the BBC haven't been stupid enough to say someone has been sacked for this when they'd already left the magazine, which would basically open them to all sorts of lawsuits.

What's surprising is how firmly Pegg has cut himself off from all other Who work. He won't be in a Dalek again, nor do any Big Finish stuff. He's got other stings in his bow, and I doubt that was making him rich, but it's strange to end such a long running association, something must have gone very sour.

DWM has been lucky enough to have way more leeway than any other licensed magazine ever would. But equally, it's understandable the BBC would want something designed to promote one of their products to be first and foremost a PR machine.

Oh, and Pegg apparently writes for Private Eye from time to time, making folk wonder at the impartiality and authorship of the piece...
 
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Old 2017-11-03, 08:35 PM   #849
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Aye, PE confirmed that Pegg is The Watcher. If he did write the piece, it explains a lot of the Who-related pieces that have popped up during the Moffat-era.

I think the Beeb is under such scrutiny these days and it's existence and funding so thoroughly questioned that I can understand that even minor acts of criticism or discussion about the world, in a magazine that is about a sci-fi TV show, will be something they're worried will get in the frothing tabloids and bring an unwelcome sh*t storm to their door.

That an all the usual 'brand values' cobblers that they'll be wanting to bring to heel. I'm guessing sales are down on the mag and Panini's titles across the board if they're trimming things, and the timing of all this has just been unfortunate.
 
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Old 2017-11-04, 01:53 PM   #850
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Sales are low at the moment, another massive gap before the next regular bunch of episodes probably doesn't help. Especially as I suspect the licence fee is based on peak Smith era sales.
 
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Old 2017-11-04, 02:48 PM   #851
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The latest issue of Private Eye has some background on the kerfuffle at the mag...

Worldwide (the beeb''s commercial arm) have been irked by the mag's increasing independence and seized on recent interviewees comments on Brexit and Trump as evidence of political bias, which is a no-no for BBC mags and launched a full inquiry, insisting all those who work on the magazine undergo a training course.

The previous editor also fell out with BBC Wales after being critical of Class (which from having read, whilst critical of the decisions made around the broadcast and promotion of the show, was actually supportive of the programme!) and took a pay off and left.

Panini have also taken to slashing the magazine's budget, which has meant several long running columns are being axed, hence the acrostic in the above.
It's not the show itself hasn't made political comments.

In his first episode Calpadi made a comment after he learned he has a Scottish accent made a comment about his eyebrows should succeed from the rest face and form their own country this aired around the time of the Scottish Independence Vote (or maybe that was when some of us Americans were becoming aware of it). In the current series finale he made a crack about humanity with no emotions and empathy is how we wind up with Trump.
Calpadi's Doctor has also said he doesn't like Americans a couple of times, and once said that humans stand around and elect an idiot to take care of things (even though he was the idiot).

The show has blown up Downing Street during the first season of the new series.

And in one episode toward the end of Tennat's run had some homeless guys say something to effect that "Obama was going to save the world with his economic plan"

Torchwood: Children of the Earth and Torchwood: Miracle Day are crammed with political messages and critique.

So the current show has had several mentions of politics and political statements and the actors, writers, and people who DWM interview also have their own political beliefs and when they are asked they answered and if BBC Worldwide then they can cancel it and I wonder how big the backlash would be.
 



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Old 2017-11-04, 03:48 PM   #852
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Franchise owners often put more restrictions on a licencee than they do themselves. Plus IIRC BBC Magazines (or at least the non-political or news ones) are required by charter to be partisan.

Of course, most of the reaction to the Peter Davison interview was OTT considering his Brexit views were about a page at most in a massive feature and saved repeating a "And then Janet's boobs popped out" story.
 
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Old 2017-11-24, 05:08 PM   #853
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Everyone's saying nice things about Shada (bar it being presented as a 2 and 1/4 hour film, no one's sure if the DVD/Blu will have an episodic option), so looks like they've pulled it off.

Interestingly it seems they've worked around the cast members no longer with us instead of recasting, K9's dialogue is taken from other season 17 stories for example rather than just getting John Lesson in.

And that photo of Tom in costume is just delightfully silly, whatever the context of what they've filmed. And it's been fun to see people debate the "How can he be the Fourth Doctor again when he's so much older?" as if they're repressing Day of the Doctor.
 
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Old 2017-12-22, 05:10 PM   #854
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And I've realised I never said anything about the finished Shada!

It's very nicely done. The focus is very much not on making something aimed at the real hadcore fans (the ones who cheerfully watch recons of missing stories and wouldn't find the format shifts odd), there's a real attempt here to make something that will work for folk who just like Tom Baker and/or Douglas Adams. Most notably with a new scene being added to make the first transition to animation as smooth as possible.

Plus the editing on the live action footage has been tightened up considerably, not so anything's cut in terms of dialogue, but it zips along much more than previous releases or indeed what it would have been like had it gone out in 1979. Previously the scenes I'd found flat and badly performed are improved tenfold.

the animation itself, whilst clearly not Disney level, is still up a level from Power of the Daleks and does the job nicely, and all the reunited actors slip into their parts well. I think Christopher Neame may actually be even better than he was before. The decision not to recast K9 or Professor Chronotis does mean some cut scenes and rejigging, but if anything the reveal of the Professor's secret is handled better here than in the script where he just comes out with it at the worst possible moment (ironically the novelisation changes that moment for that very reason).

And nerd bonus points for taking dialogue from his other role in The Keep of Traken for the Professor's one line in the animated segment. Shame they didn't use Timelash.

It's not perfect, Shada as both a production and a script never was (the various changes Adams made for the first Dirk Gently book--like having only one student sidekick instead of two--are all improvements). But for the first time the original works as a piece of entertainment rather than an historical curio.

And having Tom Baker film the final scene was a brilliant idea. You're so used to the switch between young Tom and drawn Tom him suddenly being old Tom doesn't take you out of the drama, and the discussion of what people will think of him in 200 years is perfect for a moment like that. It's tremendously heart warming. And the season 17 console room they cobbled together from the Experience version looked great!
 
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Old 2018-01-12, 04:04 PM   #855
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David Fisher, who is probably and unfairly best remembered for not writing City of Death but also contributed Androids of Tara; Stones of Blood, Creature From the Pit and The Leisure Hive, has died.

Which means over the weekend I'm going to be making time for Creature as it's:

A: Fab.

B: Has the only episode of Doctor Who actually broacast on my birthday of 17th November (though with an Autumn start to the new series and my birthday being a Saturday this year I might get a second in 55 years!).

In other news, it looks like Tom Baker's first season is coming out on blu ray. Not so bothered myself, but if it gets a corresponding DVD boxset as well it'll be nice for Classic Who to get cheaper and more easy to sort out releases than the forty odd there are for Tom alone so noobs wanting to try the show out have easier options.
 
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Old 2018-01-13, 04:20 AM   #856
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I was wondering when they'd start releasing the old show by season rather than story.

I wonder if it'll be a big ol' slipcase like Key to Time or if they're actually gonna use some kind of shelf-space-saving packaging this time.
 
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Old 2018-01-13, 07:36 AM   #857
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I wouldn't mind them releasing all of Classic Who by season. I'd buy the hell out of that.

What I'd like to know is if their plan is to eventually animate all the missing episodes?
 
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Old 2018-01-14, 12:14 PM   #858
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I forgot blu-ray.com had a thread about the release so if nothing else, they're probably gonna cram the whole season onto a single blu-ray disc in SD - which would be a definitive "yes" on the space-saving issue.

EDIT: and then I realize dalek already mentioned this in his post. Doh!
 

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Old 2018-01-14, 01:31 PM   #859
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Season releases would be good. I saw that German release of the complete 7th Doctor which I thought was a cool idea - although being in a massive slip case and being an expensive limited release puts it out of the hands of a lot of folk.
 
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Old 2018-01-19, 06:07 PM   #860
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Germany had at least done separate season sets first. You could argue putting the extended Silver Nemesis on the complete boxset was a bit mean, but that was down to the BBC dicking them about with the assets prior to that, so if it wasn't on this release it wouldn't have been on anything.
 
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