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Originally posted by Ackula
Cool thing is that a kid is much more rewarding than a toy.

Hmmm......on one hand, I have a most glorious collection of Doom. On the other hand, poopoo undies.

Yeeah, I'll stick with the toys.

Originally posted by Ackula
a kid is much more rewarding than a toy.

I suspect this falls under the heading of things parents have to tell themselves in order to stave off depression, but have no desire to ever put it to the test...

Originally posted by Denyer
I suspect this falls under the heading of things parents have to tell themselves in order to stave off depression, but have no desire to ever put it to the test...

That's nice... No really. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Denyer
I suspect this falls under the heading of things parents have to tell themselves in order to stave off depression, but have no desire to ever put it to the test...

Plus, you'd actually have to find someone to have sex with.

Originally posted by Denyer
I suspect this falls under the heading of things parents have to tell themselves in order to stave off depression, but have no desire to ever put it to the test...

To be honest not really. Well I can only speak for myself anyway. But having kids is very cool, and when they get to the age where you transition them into playing with Transformers of their own its even cooler because then you merge your hobby with your kids hobby and you have something cool to share and get into together. Thats my experience anyway.

I have a feeling younger parents may fall into the category you have specified, those that have children at a very young age. I however waited until I knew I was ready and had outgrown my childish ways..such as thinking a toy is somehow more important than a family. Time and place.....

Originally posted by Ackula
outgrown my childish ways..such as thinking a toy is somehow more important than a family.

Bah. If you had really outgrown your childish ways, you'd insist on calling your toys 'models', and would display them in glass cases with spotlights and everything.



-Ss

Originally posted by Ackula
more important than

Not the same thing.

Originally posted by inflatable dalek
Plus, you'd actually have to find someone to have sex with.

And have rotten luck with prophylactics. Yes, you'll be here all night and I'd second the recommendation of the veal.

Originally posted by Denyer
And have rotten luck with prophylactics. Yes, you'll be here all night and I'd second the recommendation of the veal.

Mind, I only found it so unlikely because I have this mental image of you as a Sherlock Holmes type- and as such more interested in mental challenges.

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Originally posted by DrSpengler
When I think "Sherlock Holmes-type" I think silly hat, pipe and bad at the violen.

He was good at the violin. He was good at everything in a sort of smug git way... Err, Holmes, that is, not Denyer. Technically he never wore the hat either...

...Sherlock Holmes was a detective!?

Like Batman.

. a mouse.

Originally posted by DrSpengler
I must have him confused with Basil of Baker's Street.
Next you're going to tell me that Sherlock Holmes wasn't a mouse.

Well obviously. You're thinking of that Roland Rat Does Sherlock Holmes TV Show (80% more entertaining than Basil, just for The Engineer's Thumb spoof where the Engineer had a thumb the size of a person...)

Originally posted by Denyer
Not the same thing.

And have rotten luck with prophylactics. Yes, you'll be here all night and I'd second the recommendation of the veal.

Not the same thing as what?

And no bad luck with prophylactics for me either, sorry. My child was very much planned. VERY much so...down to the date when they would be born and under what zodiac sign, and what numerical value her name would have. Sorry I don't fall into the unplanned parenthood category.

Originally posted by Ackula
and under what zodiac sign

Not exactly a watertight case for parenthood bespeaking rationality...

Originally posted by Denyer
Not exactly a watertight case for parenthood bespeaking rationality...

I beg to differ. Very rational since I wanted to increase the probability that she would get along well with her step brother and myself. Its hard to disregard the obvious personality types associated with each astrological sign. Whether you want to call it coincidence, chance or what have you...it is very accurate on average. I believe the frequency most things in life happen are simply differing levels of probability, and anything that I can do to shift the probability of something in my favor is a good choice for me, and quite rational. Of course you may have to shift into a different paradigm than the one you are/are not aligned with to see my point of view.

Originally posted by Ackula
Of course you may have to shift into a different paradigm than the one you are/are not aligned with to see my point of view.

And for some people, this is the toughest thing in the world to do. Seeing the reality of someone else in a 3 dimensional-non egotistical manner instead of our own 1 Dimensional "it's MY view and therefore if you don't believe it you are wrong" manner. Because I know Ackula and the fact that he is a very spiritual person, I back him up on this one 100%. Point is, we are all guilty of not being able to see things from different point of views when it feels like those very views threaten our concrete, absolute foundation of who we believe we are or think we are. For Ackula, it is in fact rational, for him, to plan according to the Zodiac. The very essence of the act is spiritual in itself to him. Who are we to condemn or judge him?

However, I do recognize that this has absolutely nothing to do with "what other toylines do you collect?" maybe this could be split into a new thread in the General Discussion section.

Originally posted by Kremzeek75
For Ackula, it is in fact rational, for him, to plan according to the Zodiac.

Describing sympathetic magic ("reasoning" by dislocation from observable cause and effect) as rational behaviour would be stretching its meaning a great deal. "Considered behaviour" might fit.

Originally posted by Kremzeek75
our concrete, absolute foundation

Is there such a thing? Much the ballpark the flippant aside was in and Althusser banged on about; perspective is never stable and changes with situation, enabling us to route around uncertainty.

"Outgrown my childish ways" is a "kneel and pray, and then you will believe" type statement.

Some of the parallels between parenting and evangelising other causes are interesting, particularly what they'd say about toy collectors: guilt for pursuing an interest to the exclusion of something else, validation by socialising inside an extant and "approved" framework, etc.

Originally posted by Ackula
anything that I can do to shift the probability of something in my favor is a good choice for me

Mmm. You've certainly got thousands of years of fertility sacrifices on your side. The need or instinct to control environment plays into every facet of life -- even given an input device and a stress situation, a most people will press the button/control harder whilst willing it to respond faster.

Originally posted by Ackula
I beg to differ. Very rational since I wanted to increase the probability that she would get along well with her step brother and myself.

Ah, well that won't work. The entire point of having brothers and sisters is to butt heads with them constantly. You're not supposed to get on till you're living a good distance away from each other...

Originally posted by Ackula
...Its hard to disregard the obvious personality types associated with each astrological sign. Whether you want to call it coincidence, chance or what have you...it is very accurate on average....

actually, there have been several studies done on basic conceptual thought and similarities between people of similar zodiac signs (close as they could get, down to rising signs, sun phase, ETC) and found that an MRI of their brains when shown the same images of an esoteric nature- the people were found to have similar components of their brain light up and when interviewed seperately, they were found to have similar responses...

this is caused by a theory related to earths gravity and basic magnetic effect on our brains and physiology- but it's only a theory... hooray for PBS and Nova!

@ Ackula: what is your sign? my guess is sagitarius... or possibly gemini- but i don't know you well enough to really guess well...

I'm not sure how to even respond. First off I'm not sure what Denyer has against parents or establishing a family, but if you are not for it then that is your choice. To me family is very important, and it is not guilt that causes me to rationalize my families importance over a hobby, it is common sense and basic instinct as a parent. It is very hard to gauge how you would feel about parenting or a child if you do not have one, trust me, for 27 years I swore I'd never have a child.

Secondly, the fact that persons born under certain conditions are more probable to exhibit certain personality traits has little to do with faith, spirituality or religion to me. It is merely an observed truism to me. Believe what you will about why it works that way, as long as it works that is all that matters.

Thirdly, I do not subscribe to any religion or belief system other than my own. I believe to an extent everything works by magick; science represents a small domain of magick where coincidences have a relatively high probability of occurrence. I do not need to prove this to anyone, nor do I care if anyone agrees with me. I have quantum physics, chaos theory and thousands of years of primitive practices to back me up. If you wish to call this something else then I'm glad for you, whatever you label it, it is still the same thing and it still works. The only real truth is that there is no truth anyway.

Lastly, I enjoy this forum for the reason of discussing Transformers. Sometimes personal things become involved in conversations..that is a given. However the importance of my family and children is not something I really want to have to defend when I come here, nor are my personal beliefs or lack thereof. So I'll end this conversation at that.

Oh..and I'm an Aquarius.