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Old 2018-05-20, 08:03 PM   #741
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it is a shit name. unless they were going for Cordon Bennett.

The Bad Cube people have now done their own Sideswipe, in some sort of perverse inversion of people buying 3P as a placeholder...
 
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Old 2018-05-21, 06:41 PM   #742
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The Bad Cube people have now done their own Sideswipe, in some sort of perverse inversion of people buying 3P as a placeholder...
Does suggest they're in it for the fun of things to some extent, considering how knocked-off the MP is.
 
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Old 2018-05-22, 07:37 AM   #743
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To be fair there are a couple of bits of the Countach that look a bit cruder than more recent figures, like how you can spit through the chest, and his Golem head always grates as a really crap last minute design fix. I wouldn't be gauche enough to spend 3P money on it but if T-T make it through the rest of the Ark crew, don't bankrupt themselves doing something stupid like an MP Star Convoy and loop back round I figure Sideswipe has a better figure in him. Or they'll just do him with a clip-on rocket pack.
 
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Old 2018-05-22, 09:36 PM   #744
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I know that I'm kind of late on this, but I like yellow MP Bumblebee - especially with him standing alongside Spike in his exosuit () on that box photograph. That's got to be worth some money, that's for sure!
 

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Old 2018-05-23, 12:17 PM   #745
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Yes, it is worth some money.
 
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Old 2018-05-24, 04:04 PM   #746
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Here's BW Megatron in beast mode.

And because TT are absolutely psychotic about cartoon accuracy, here are the first teaser shots of Masterpiece Convoy version 3.

I can use the dead horse emoji with good purpose, I think.
 
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Old 2018-05-25, 05:49 PM   #747
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Oh yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

Oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
 
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Old 2018-06-09, 07:32 PM   #748
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Oh, you'll get your full color pictures of Masterpiece Beast Wars Megatron, but you'll have to take a third version of Masterpiece Convoy with them.

Also, Takara are making Golden Lagoon redecos because of course they are. And to think that people were disappointed that Takara weren't going to do any cartoon-accurate decos of POTP figures. Well, here you go!
 
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Old 2018-06-12, 08:30 PM   #749
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BW Megs looks AMAZING.
 
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Old 2018-06-12, 08:37 PM   #750
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"MY GOD THAT'S AWES- oh no wait that's just the CGI model from the cartoo- no it's not OH MY GOD THAT'S AWESOME"
 
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Old 2018-06-14, 03:05 PM   #751
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So, as a counterpoint to news and an attempt at actual discussion, do we think TakaraTomy will ever get round to doing Masterpiece Skids?

I mean obviously they can get Crosscut out of the same mould, but is that going to be enough to justify it, given their current fixation on the cartoon as the primary inspiration for the MP line...

Obviously this has nothing to do with X-Transbots' upcoming version of the toy and the fact that XTB have beautiful moulds with overcomplicated engineering and spin-the-wheel quality control. Obviously. Not prompted by it at all.
 
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Old 2018-06-14, 04:10 PM   #752
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A few years ago I'd have said yes, but today I think I'd lean towards no.

For a couple years there it seemed like Masterpiece was headed towards being just "Fancy Autobot Cars: The Series", and I think there was an expectation that Takara was just going to keep on trucking, putting out updated figures of all the Diaclone-based TFs with more cartoony robot modes. But now V2s of popular characters are becoming more of a thing and there's even an Optimus V3 on the horizon. Plus they've branched out into Beast Wars, and started putting more energy into actual Movie MPs (and not just Hasbro Leader-class figures with nicer paint). The focus of the line has expanded quite a bit and Skids really doesn't feel like someone who'd be a priority for today's cartoon-centric design team.

I'd still like to say that they'd get to him eventually, even if it's not any time soon. But with TakaraTomy having financial struggles right now to the point where people are talking about them as a takeover target, I'm honestly not sure how long the line is going to keep going. Now that they're importing Hasbro Generations and movie toys with basically no changes, is Masterpiece the only in-house TF line they've got left? How long are they going to be able to keep it going if their finances don't improve? We've already seen serious price hikes over the last couple years. How much more of that can the market bear before it's just not viable anymore?

If TT can get healthier on the business side of things I think they'd get to him eventually. But if they don't they're going to wind up getting bought up and turned into Hasbro: Japan Edition, and I'm pretty sure that would spell the end of the MP line as we've come to know it.
 
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Old 2018-06-15, 08:40 PM   #753
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I wonder how much TT are beaten to the punch by 3P companies and how much that undermines them? I can't imagine it would be by much, but it can't be good to have something in the works, only to find five or more smaller companies have trotted out their own version of a particular character.

The mould re-use for the Autobot cars has been impressive, so does that also inform the design/ manufacture process? At least insofar as stuff like Tigertrack and Exhaust coming out. Have part of their troubles been through selling silly things like Anime colours of characters people have already bought? (or the other way around; I bout MP Shockers, although I didn't care for the colour palette, only to find they're now doing a toy colours version, but tbh, I can't justify buying the same toy again - especially at what looks like a considerable mark up on the original. Crikey, what a consumer base TFs have to cater for....).

I've been surprised to see BW done in the MP range, tbh. The designs are unique to the characters, and I can't imagine they've been cheap to develop.

Maybe this is where their business model is a bit screwy - focusing on expensive to produce high end collectibles at the expense of going for stuff at a lower price bracket that's likely to sell through quicker. Are they trying to go for the SHFiguarts market?

Also: odd lines like TAV which is a right jumble of stuff!
 
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Old 2018-07-06, 03:17 PM   #754
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MP beast wars megatron preorders are available now, and he's... over $300. Wasn't Primal only $120 or something? I know that megatron is bigger, but he's not three times bigger...
 
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Old 2018-07-06, 03:43 PM   #755
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Looking back through my email, I paid 8,990 yen for Primal, so about $80 USD with today's exchange rate. With the way Japanese e-tailers usually discount their preorders, MSRP was probably around $100 USD.

$300+ for Megatron is way past what I'd be willing to pay. He's one of my favourite Transformers characters but there's no way I can justify that. I could probably buy up a complete collection of all of his vintage 90s figures with that money, and I'd have a heck of a lot more fun with five or six BW/BM toys than I would with a single giant MP figure.
 
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Old 2018-07-07, 12:59 PM   #756
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I watched a Toy Galaxy vid about the decline and possible demise of the action figure market, and this does feel like an indicator of that. As the market for toys shrinks towards adult collectors, so you get ever more detailed but expensive figures that are just out reach for a lot of folks or beyond what they're prepared to pay. I'll be sticking with my TM Megs, unless there's a significant mark down in the future (as seems to happen with all those Diaclone themed MPs I like).
 
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Old 2018-07-08, 08:58 AM   #757
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This seems more like overreaching plus an add-on percentage of greed. If there's judged to be a market it'll be bootlegged to criminy and there'll also be cheaper 3P designs. This isn't like with other MP figures where there's a licensing cost that the unofficial companies avoid, and TT are forced to prioritise the alt-mode: it's a t-rex, the transformation of which doesn't have to be obscenely complicated given the source material.
 
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Old 2018-07-10, 09:18 PM   #758
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I know that megatron is bigger, but he's not three times bigger...
Well, nevermind.
 
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Old 2018-07-13, 07:53 PM   #759
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Suddenly that $300 price makes a bit more sense ...
 
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