Why Didn't Starscream's ghots Possess...

DrSpengler · Post by **DrSpengler** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 4:32 pm

Galvatron?

He wanted to be leader of the Decepticons really really badly, right? So why didn't he just possess Galvatron?

When he possessed Waspinator, Scourge, that Sweep, Cyclonus, Astrotrain and Dinosaurer there was nothing they could do about it. He had complete control and could have stayed forever (He even threatened to do that to Scourge).

So why didn't he just possess Galvatron and then lead the Decepticons?

Loser.

Silly Cow · Post by **Silly Cow** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 4:35 pm

Maybe he knew Galvatron had a stronger will and could resist him.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 4:42 pm

It's like why Starscream haven't killed Galvatron when he was possessing Trypticon, he could do that with ease.

Arcee · Post by **Arcee** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 6:04 pm

Maybe Galvatron would have been strong enough to resist him, and Starscream knew it (like Silly Cow said).

And maybe (like some fans have said) Starscream does have a subsconscious tendency to "sabotage himself", which is why he never takes the final step that would enable him to become Decepticon leader when he has the chance.

Or maybe he was just too stupid to think of that option, hehe.

Galvatron91 · Post by **Galvatron91** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:06 pm

Originally posted by Arcee
Maybe Galvatron would have been strong enough to resist him, and Starscream knew it (like Silly Cow said).

yep...no way that little whelp screamer could have ever possessed the mad couch burning maniac...wait a minute...

Bombshell · Post by **Bombshell** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:25 pm

Originally posted by Galvatron91
yep...no way that little whelp screamer could have ever possessed the mad couch burning maniac...wait a minute...

Silly Cow · Post by **Silly Cow** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:52 pm

Originally posted by Arcee
And maybe (like some fans have said) Starscream does have a subsconscious tendency to "sabotage himself", which is why he never takes the final step that would enable him to become Decepticon leader when he has the chance.

New to me but makes sense. Maybe Starscream did have the Thanos-syndrome and he subconciously foiled his own plans to get on the top because deep down he knew he wasnät worth it.

I don't know how much evidence there is in the cartoon for that theory but still, it makes sense.

Originally posted by Galvatron(91?)
yep...no way that little whelp screamer could have ever possessed the mad couch burning maniac...wait a minute...

It seems that the cartoon-Galvatron wasn't the only big G with mental probelms...

Bombshell · Post by **Bombshell** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:57 pm

Originally posted by Silly Cow
It seems that the cartoon-Galvatron wasn't the only big G with mental probelms...

I can't wait for G to see this...

Cliffjumper · Post by **Cliffjumper** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 9:46 pm

To be honest, I put it down to a lack of vision/confidence/maybe even ability from Starscream...

DrSpengler · Post by **DrSpengler** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 2:58 am

Originally posted by Cliffjumper
To be honest, I put it down to a lack of vision/confidence/maybe even ability from Starscream...

In the manga Starscream's Ghost did some schemeing. He even teamed up with the Quitessons. They gave him a nearly indestructable new body, modeled like a Convoy on steroids. Of course, Rodimus and Galvatron teamed up to vaporize him, but still.

I wouldn't say he had the lack of vision, I mean, he tried DAMN hard to get a new body and revenge on Galvatron (Wheeling and dealing with Rodimus, siding with Unicron, teaming up with the Quintessons) he REALLY wanted a new body.

And look where he is now: floating helplessly somewhere between time and space for all eternity. Poor guy...

Cyberman · Post by **Cyberman** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 10:37 am

Originally posted by DrSpengler
In the manga...

Manga? What manga? Did I miss something?

Cliffjumper · Post by **Cliffjumper** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 12:53 pm

http://tfarchive.com/japanese/mangareviews.php

Cyberman · Post by **Cyberman** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 1:33 pm

Originally posted by Cliffjumper
http://tfarchive.com/japanese/mangareviews.php

Aha - thanks. I think I´ve heard of the events, but did not know it was manga.

So, is it downloadable or buyable somewhere? Also, does an english version exist or is it japanese(language) only?

DrSpengler · Post by **DrSpengler** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:45 pm

Originally posted by Cyberman
Aha - thanks. I think I´ve heard of the events, but did not know it was manga.

So, is it downloadable or buyable somewhere? Also, does an english version exist or is it japanese(language) only?

Japanese only. I don't know of any place where you can download them and I doubt such a place exists. Ask around.

As for purchase, I got mine from an independant seller through e-mail (Lioprime rules!). You can always try eBay but there's no guarantee you'll find it.

I'm working my ass off to try and get scans e-mailed to Cliffjumper for the website. It may be a while, though.

Cliffjumper · Post by **Cliffjumper** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 8:04 pm

The pretentious http://www.tfcyberbon.com has a handful, and I've got a fistful more from Hydra Darkwing's previous site...

Vin Ghostal · Post by **Vin Ghostal** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 8:17 pm

I've thought about this before, and I've always gotten back to a single, solitary line from Megatron in "The Insecticon Syndrome":

"No one gets into my chranial chamber!"

That, coupled with Galvy's ability to cripple an entire planet with his mind ("Web World"), seems to suggest that his was one mind beyond takeover.

Cliffjumper · Post by **Cliffjumper** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 8:18 pm

Yeh... it's also worth considering why anyone would want to be in Galvy's cartoon mind...

Also, Starscream and Scourge shared beauty stylings.

Arcee · Post by **Arcee** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 9:51 pm

Originally posted by Cliffjumper
Yeh... it's also worth considering why anyone would want to be in Galvy's cartoon mind...

That too...

DrSpengler · Post by **DrSpengler** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 2:32 am

Originally posted by Vin Ghostal
I've thought about this before, and I've always gotten back to a single, solitary line from Megatron in "The Insecticon Syndrome":

"No one gets into my chranial chamber!"

That, coupled with Galvy's ability to cripple an entire planet with his mind ("Web World"), seems to suggest that his was one mind beyond takeover.

FINALLY!

A good point!

Figures it would come from you...

Hellion · Post by **Hellion** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 6:52 pm

Or maybe this time around Starscream wasn't looking to lead the Decepticons because his desire to get revenge on Galvatron took top priority?