[BW,BM] BM maximals vs BW maximals

angloconvoy · Post by **angloconvoy** » Sun Nov 11, 2001 9:44 pm

Compy's primal v primal post got m thinking, who do you think would win, BM maximals, or S1 BW maxials (original team before tigatron).

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Rumble · Post by **Rumble** » Sun Nov 11, 2001 9:55 pm

Originally posted by angloconvoy:
Compy's primal v primal post got m thinking, who do you think would win, BM maximals, or S1 BW maxials (original team before tigatron).

S1 BW maximals would win they had guns and their robot modes weren't usless

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LordSixshot · Post by **LordSixshot** » Sun Nov 11, 2001 10:29 pm

See! I can't contribute because I haven't seen BM. It's gonna take me about a year to read all the comics, so keep bumping this topic till I can comment.

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Brawn · Post by **Brawn** » Mon Nov 12, 2001 7:35 am

Originally posted by Rock:
BM Maximals (all) would win because of the BW Maximals being outnumbered and some (Primal Cheetor, Rattrap) not being transmetals yet.

When the BM Maximals were reformated they lost their transmetal forms and properties.

The orical(sp) only used their DNA when they were reformated

I would take the S1 Beasties anyday

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Wildfire Herald · Post by **Wildfire Herald** » Mon Nov 12, 2001 6:42 pm

BW Maxies would beat down BM Maxies while they were trying to get in touch with their inner robot to transform.

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Kickback! · Post by **Kickback!** » Mon Nov 12, 2001 8:33 pm

The original crew would be ripped to shreds. the BM maximals were much more capable fighters.

The BM Primal uses the energy of shots fired at him to fire a powerfull blast himself, isn't it?

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Computron · Post by **Computron** » Mon Nov 12, 2001 9:26 pm

hmm, difficult and I think it will be decided by one person, namely Rhinox

well BM Primal would beat BW Primal, BM Cheetor would beat BW Cheetor, I think BW rattrap would get BM rattrap but Rhinox would just wipe the floor with Black Arachnia then proceed to wipe the floor with cheetor and primal

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sprites touch · Post by **sprites touch** » Tue Nov 13, 2001 6:38 pm

As much As I'd like to say BW maxies would win, I just can't.
THe BM maxies are more mature and work better as a team, they have a good arrey of weapons( BA webs, Primal shurikans, swords) and seem to be less energy-reliant( so could fight for longer), undetectable by radar while in Beast mode.
The BW maxies are more of individual fighters, and not experianced in combat yet, with luck they might have a chance though.

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angloconvoy · Post by **angloconvoy** » Tue Nov 13, 2001 8:18 pm

Luck and Rhinox's chain guns you mean

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sprites touch · Post by **sprites touch** » Tue Nov 13, 2001 11:00 pm

Actually more like Rhinox's fists, I meen, bulets and lazer BM-primal might deflect, but those fists of fury, he'll be Primal pulp.

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Kickback! · Post by **Kickback!** » Wed Nov 14, 2001 8:17 am

Primal flies..... can't hit something you can't reach...

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nmathew · Post by **nmathew** » Tue Nov 27, 2001 7:47 pm

Computron is right. Rynox (or however you spell that name) would be the deciding factor. Chain guns `o death!

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dEcEpTiCoN MEGAtron · Post by **dEcEpTiCoN MEGAtron** » Wed Nov 28, 2001 5:27 am

This one is easy. BW Maximals would wipe the floor with BM Maximals for a number of reasons. First, there's Rhinox. Enough said about that since BM Maximals didn't have him. BM Black Arachnia had become dumb & sensitive, unlike in BW when she was a ruthless & treacherous Pred so anyone would wipe the floor with her from BW, even Cheetor. BM Rattrap wasn't as good either because he couldn't figure out how to transform correctly. And I'm surprised nobody mentioned Dinobot! A true warrior and skilled fighter. He would have taken out any BM Maximal, except maybe Optimus Primal. Now it maybe true that BM Maximals are more mature and have more fighting experience, but that wouldn't help them against Rhinox and Dinobot. Don't forget that BW Rattrap had experience as they've showed that he was a demolitionist. BW Maximals would win any day.

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Brawn · Post by **Brawn** » Wed Nov 28, 2001 9:16 pm

Did someone say Rhinox?
Rhinox would could take on all the BM transformers...Muahahahahaa

Shrapnel Clone · Post by **Shrapnel Clone** » Wed Nov 28, 2001 10:06 pm

Originally posted by dEcEpTiCoN MEGAtron:
And I'm surprised nobody mentioned Dinobot!

Nightscream would cream em all, even him....

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Pun-3X · Post by **Pun-3X** » Thu Nov 29, 2001 8:09 am

So it's a good thing he died in Code of Hero. More honorable death.

Gotta go with BW Maximals. Though I may cheat when I choose to use the team later in S1. (though if you say Nightscream is in there, it indicates a later date for them as well)

If it is early BW versus early BM, BW Maximals as they have the firepower and the sense of what in the hay is going on. BM Maximals at this point haven't even truly figured out how to transform. AND they have no major weapons. Once it was figured out BM Primal could deflect energy attacks, it would be a switch to the chain-guns o' death. (solid projectile) Cheetor would be easy if you could catch him, as would the others.

Now, later in the seasons you have a different story. Though Primal is more spiritually in touch with things, he's still the same kind of vulnerable target to CG'o'D. Cheetor becomes a hastel with his swordsmanship and blocking abilities. And while BW Primal shows he has some sword-fighting abilities, he ain't that good. (ye see the three times he's used them? Eh...)
Rattrap is no problem. Nightscream's sonic attacks CAN be a problem during initial attacks. Once the weapon is identified, later confrontations can be met with shutting down the audio receptors (though that kinda cheats by saying they'll just beat them next time, maybe there isn't a next time...)

Dinobot, skilled warrior. Took out the army of Predacons in Code of Hero, though it cost him is life. He doesn't ALWAYS get to be that powerful, but he's also survived tangoes with Megatron one-on-one.

Tigatron and Airrazor add to the battle as Nightscream would. We have a second flyer (now two vs. two, if BM Primal flew. Can't remember now...) and Tigatron as new gunner. THOUGH, this guy is more a character with nature than with Cybertron, and maybe Tigatron would defect? That'd make things interesting. Rattrap is the same result, and Blackarachnia can be held off so long as you don't get withing range (though this crew is experienced with the BA in S1, so they know she has some moves)

It's got its give-and-takes, but I gotta go with BW Maximals, both ways.

Starscreamsghost · Post by **Starscreamsghost** » Sat Dec 01, 2001 4:34 pm

Originally posted by Kickback!:
Primal flies..... can't hit something you can't reach...

Cuz that's always seemed to help the Decepticons SOOOO much...

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Shrapnel Clone · Post by **Shrapnel Clone** » Sat Dec 01, 2001 7:02 pm

Originally posted by Starscreamsghost:
Cuz that's always seemed to help the Decepticons SOOOO much...

Yes, but the Decepticons are morons. AND they never did any real air combat, they almost always transformed into thier robotmodes and started hand-to-hand combat....

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MegatronDX · Post by **MegatronDX** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 11:11 pm

I would take the BW guys over em. Just to much power and no hang ups, I mean you have to get in touch with your inner spark, uh ok your mom. Plus Rhinox would chew em up. And the Decepticons are kinda dumb, they were basicly built for war right? Then why didn't they use there advantage? Darn Geneva Convention.

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ThePeacemkr2 · Post by **ThePeacemkr2** » Sun Dec 23, 2001 10:48 pm

I think that it depends. Early on in BW, they were still learning how to effectivly co-ordinate nad use thier beast modes, while early in BM, they were still learning how to transform. If it was near end of season 1 or 2 in BM, and early in BW, BM would definatly win, because they have good co-ordination, plus, the BW security system on thier ship that rhinox put in, wouldnt be able to see them in beast mode, so rat-trap could easily manage to sneak past them and get into ship, then just plug in his tail and hack, then it would be able to shoot at the BW guys, along with trapping them and using defenses on the BW in the base.

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