Finally a good table top rpg to simulate transformers...

eternalshades · Post by **eternalshades** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:48 pm

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/hr05.html

It's mechamorphosis and it's for the d20

Sir Auros · Post by **Sir Auros** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:57 am

Moved a copy here. The description sounds almost exactly like Transformers. If any of the new-crew has a problem with this, feel free to close the thread.

If I get my hands on this though, there may be a conversion in the works...

RID Scourge · Post by **RID Scourge** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:31 am

Not to mention that one of the bots on the cover looks like RID Armorhide.

This is sweet.

Post by **Denyer** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:51 am

Mechamorphosis, a world of devastatingly powerful robotic warriors that hide among us as cars, jets, and everyday objects. Some are terrorist aggressors, enacting evil schemes to dominate human kind. Others are self-declared defenders of the human race, fighting their mechanical foes and avoiding the military forces of the fearful and desperate people they are trying to protect.

Their battles rage from hidden desert bases to active volcanoes, from the depths of the sea to the frontiers of space. In Mechamorphosis, the warrior doesn’t pilot the robot; the warrior is the robot.

Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery...

Trollking · Post by **Trollking** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 6:38 am

And yet more crap from the wizards of the coast. It's nice to see an rpg that emulates tf but, I getting sick of all this D20 crap.

Forgive my verbal bile but I Do Not like the D20 system.

Sir Auros · Post by **Sir Auros** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:03 am

1 - It's not made by WoTC.

2 - d20 > AD&D

Strafe · Post by **Strafe** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:07 am

Originally posted by Trollking
And yet more crap from the wizards of the coast. It's nice to see an rpg that emulates tf but, I getting sick of all this D20 crap.

Forgive my verbal bile but I Do Not like the D20 system.

I'm so sending this bastard after you for that comment.

Trollking · Post by **Trollking** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:22 am

D20 is the system that 3rd edition uses, I'm not sure who made it but, it was my understanding that wotc owned the D20 system.

If you like it more power to ya but, don't preach to this troll.

And strafe the illthid pic is cool but, a fire wielding creature would have been a better choice.

Strafe · Post by **Strafe** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:35 am

Originally posted by Trollking
a fire wielding creature would have been a better choice.

Yea, because the most overused element in D&D is a solid choice, especially when its opponent is psionic based.

Always get fire resistance when playing D&D. You'll become immune to 95% of the energy attacks out there...

Oh and Trollking, Wizards created the D20 system, however if you'll spend 1 MINUTE LOOKING AT THE DAMN LINK, you'll see it's not Wizards creating this game.

/Get your geek on!

eternalshades · Post by **eternalshades** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:14 pm

1. I can name at least 10 companies that use the open source licence, as well as half a dozen writers who are friends of mine who work with it. While wotc set it up, they ain't the only people to use it. In this case, it is fantasy flight games, a pretty good d20 company.

If you want, I can put a link on the d20 licence.

2. I actually got the book, and I wouldn't posted the thread if it didn't work well. I was surprisingly impressed on what they did and how well it works. I've seen other beer and pretzel transformer games, but haven't seen one of similar quality.

3. One of my biggest gripes about freeform gaming is that often it leaves you totally at the mercy of the organizer of the games. Having the stats that are reasonably logical help alleviates that.

4. If there is enough interest, I'm thinking of running a game. Right now, I'm still plugging away at reading.

5. I am seriously looking forward to the conversions

Trollking · Post by **Trollking** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:50 am

Originally posted by Strafe
Yea, because the most overused element in D&D is a solid choice, especially when its opponent is psionic based.

Always get fire resistance when playing D&D. You'll become immune to 95% of the energy attacks out there...

Oh and Trollking, Wizards created the D20 system, however if you'll spend 1 MINUTE LOOKING AT THE DAMN LINK, you'll see it's not Wizards creating this game.

/Get your geek on!

Since you clearly are familiar with d&d thought you'd realise that my reference to a fire-wielding creature applyed to the fact that I'm a troll and the only way to permanently kill a troll is through fire or acid.

I simply do not like the d20 system and I'm aware that many different groups use the system. Mechamorphosis and most of the others that use it are not apart or remotely connected to wotc beyond the use of d20 system(better find a different word than system or I'll wear it out, lol)

I'm thrilled that there is a game that seems to be inspired by tf but, it just seems that like d20 is over used. It doesn't always benefit a game to use a system that is made to be used any rpg company. Only benefit I see is that you'll always know how to use the system.

Anyway enternalshades let us know whether or not it a good rpg.

Strafe · Post by **Strafe** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 3:31 am

Why don't you like the d20 system?

KillTheKids · Post by **KillTheKids** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:01 am

Ugh, not mind flayers...ANYTHING BUT MIND FLAYERS!

Ravage · Post by **Ravage** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:04 am

D10 and D20 both have their own advantages and problems.

D20 is a bit on the overally simplistic side but at least it's easy to learn.

I think D10 *or White Wolf* if you will, makes it a bit easier to create charecters too suit a certain purpose or idea. But at least they tend to have major disadvantages where their strengths are not.

Anyway both are not bad just depends on what I want to play.

Strafe · Post by **Strafe** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:09 am

White Wolf has great backgrounds for their stories but a **** game engine. Yeah, having only one die sounds great in theory, but it makes things ridiculously complicated.

/Played Mage and Vampire, then played D&D. Never looked back.

Ravage · Post by **Ravage** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:26 am

I've just found that most D and D gms regardless tend to suck.

At least with most people I've play White Wolf games with there has been some decent story and not just hack and slash and save the queen.

But that is arguably more GM's fualt than anything else.

That and I stopped playing D and D in high school. Though seen it played alot since.

Shrapnel Clone · Post by **Shrapnel Clone** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:44 pm

Interesting, I'll have to check it out sometime.

D20 system would be better if they used 3d6 instead of a d20 (importance of skill becomes greater that way), but otherwise I like it. Sure, leveling is a bit weird, but most of it is eay to understand.

eternalshades · Post by **eternalshades** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:40 pm

Originally posted by KillTheKids
Ugh, not mind flayers...ANYTHING BUT MIND FLAYERS!

are you kidding me, that drawing rocks.

The right type of race for taking over the known universe

eternalshades · Post by **eternalshades** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:41 pm

Originally posted by Ravage
I've just found that most D and D gms regardless tend to suck.

At least with most people I've play White Wolf games with there has been some decent story and not just hack and slash and save the queen.

But that is arguably more GM's fualt than anything else.

That and I stopped playing D and D in high school. Though seen it played alot since.

I highly doubt you'd be able to emulate transformers with white wolf.

It is the land of the nihilistic rail road, and it just doesn't fit.

Tempest · Post by **Tempest** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:18 am

Originally posted by Strafe

Nasty ...

Hmmm ... I wonder is Hasbro will step in on this thing?