Casino (please god help us) Royale.

StoneCold Skywarp · Post by **StoneCold Skywarp** » Wed May 03, 2006 2:59 pm

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/casinoroyale/

Teaser Trailer's up. Now if this were Pierce (I'm so smooth I melt ice with thought alone) Brosnan I could see it working.

As it's Daniel (I'm such a pussy I got two teeth knocked out in a fake fight) Craig, Bond's as good as dead in my eyes.

Thoughts?

Direct link - http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/movief ... hiq_dl.mov

ravimus prime · Post by **ravimus prime** » Wed May 03, 2006 3:12 pm

I was never really a fan of the Bond films, but this really looks s**t. Daniel Craig doesn't suit the role, and it's not entirely because he's blonde.

Cyberstrike nTo · Post by **Cyberstrike nTo** » Wed May 03, 2006 4:19 pm

Based just on the teaser trailer it looks like your average action movie to me. Not bad but not good either.

Grandmaster Shockwaeve · Wed May 03, 2006 6:53 pm

The main problem I have with him (since we don't really see him act in the teaser) is that the previous Bonds were all fairly consistent in terms of looks... Craig looks so unlike any of them that it just doesn't seem like Bond. Especially that dour, ugly look in the final shot.

CloudStrifer · Post by **CloudStrifer** » Wed May 03, 2006 7:24 pm

I won't pass judgement based on one trailer. I will wait to see the movie and then see if he measures up to the Bond name.

Aardvark · Post by **Aardvark** » Wed May 03, 2006 7:29 pm

Well with Martin Campbell in the big seat I'm sure it will bare somewhat a resemblence to GoldenEye (Or Eskimo Nell)
Lets hope it surpsses the old Casino Royale;)

Post by **inflatable dalek** » Wed May 03, 2006 7:59 pm

I don't know enough about Craig to prejudge him, though the fact the movie seems to be returning to For Your Eyes Only snoozville doesn't inspire confidence.

Scout · Post by **Scout** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:04 pm

I'm kind of partial to Connery's old films, but this one doesn't look too horrible in the trailer. My dad's a big fan and I think they're pretty good action flicks, so we'll likely go see it when it comes out. Wikipedia had a picture of this new Daniel guy that doesn't looks so bad as Bond. Haven't seen any of his other films.

Sociopathic Autobot · Post by **Sociopathic Autobot** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:07 pm

You know what Connery would say to this new Bond?!

"Personally, I think you're a ****ing idiot."

Post by **inflatable dalek** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:09 pm

But if you belive most press reports he'd say that to just about anyone.

If I were Craig I'd go "Do your Russian accent again, go on" in response.

Wildrider · Post by **Wildrider** » Sat May 06, 2006 3:31 pm

I'm actually quite excited by 'Casino Royale', Craig is a quality actor who I've liked from 'Our Friends in the North', sure he's had some duff jobs like 'Tomb Raider', but his turns in 'Enduring Love', 'Munich' and 'Layer Cake' are pretty classy.

What's needed to really make a Bond film good is the old fashioned dust up between the bad guy's goons and whatever private army Bond's got on his side. They haven't done that in ages, where are the ninjas? the space marines? plucky submarine crew? pistachio pirates? That's been the death of the franchise in my opinion.

Craig is carved from rock and pure muscle and would have Brosnan in a blindfolded, hot oil, spoon fight anyday.

EDIT: Although I still think Bond should have been Paddy Considine, that would have been interesting.

optihut · Post by **optihut** » Sat May 06, 2006 4:11 pm

I don't watch trailers, so my thoughts are of a more general nature:

My Bond ranking is: Connery, Dalton, Moore, Brosnan, Lazenby (sp?). From the 4 Bond movies that Brosnan did, two were utter crap (the one with the media guy and the last one), so I don't really see where this revery for Brosnan is coming from. I for one am glad to see he is gone.

the_escaflowne_2k · Post by **the_escaflowne_2k** » Sat May 06, 2006 4:15 pm

Originally posted by optihut
I don't watch trailers, so my thoughts are of a more general nature:

My Bond ranking is: Connery, Dalton, Moore, Brosnan, Lazenby (sp?). From the 4 Bond movies that Brosnan did, two were utter crap (the one with the media guy and the last one), so I don't really see where this revery for Brosnan is coming from. I for one am glad to see he is gone.

He makes a good Bond, he didnt make them films bad the plots and scripts etc made them bad.

Bar Goldeneye which was top notch.

Post by **Denyer** » Sun May 07, 2006 1:34 am

Should've gone for Eddie Izzard or Robbie Williams. Would've been amusing at least.

optihut · Post by **optihut** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:38 am

Originally posted by Denyer
Should've gone for Eddie Izzard or Robbie Williams. Would've been amusing at least.

Oh hell yeah, ever since I saw the music video for - millenium, was it? - I am sold to Robbie Williams being Bond. It's a pity that desire doesn't play into it and the Bond role appears to be invitation only, as otherwise Williams would have been the next Bond.

Cliffjumper · Post by **Cliffjumper** » Sun May 07, 2006 9:53 am

Originally posted by the_escaflowne_2k
He makes a good Bond, he didnt make them films bad the plots and scripts etc made them bad.

What, with his skillful filling out of a template?

Bond's too iconic now for anyone to ever play the role with any degree of skill and verve ever again. Too many people banging on for thirty ****ing years about Connery and how Bond always does this, this and this, and if he doesn't he's not Bond. The last actor to bring anything at all to the role was Dalton, and for trying to be good as opposed to a cardboard cut-out the public said "no". There's too much money tied up in the thing for it to be anything other than a Bruckheimer film with a British lead ever again, because at the end of the day they have to sell console licences. It's a wonderful world, isn't it?

Heinrad · Post by **Heinrad** » Sun May 07, 2006 11:15 am

I rather liked Brosnan's Bond......

But this..... It's got some good things going for it. Based on the first book, so they set it before the rest of the movies.

I admit, it's been a while since I read Casino Royale, but I don't remember it as being Bond's first outing as a 00. Action, the DB5, and the Bond girl for this one looks pretty good, too.

Unfortunately, they're torpedoing their own continuity by having Judi Dench play M. I hope they're not trying to reboot the series. The last thing we need is a movie based on the book of "The Spy Who Loved Me" As good, or as bad(depending on your feelings for the Moore era), as the movie was, it was light years better than the book. Not even sure Fleming wrote that one......... As for Craig.... only thing I've seen him in is Tomb Raider, and he might be able to pull it off.

Of course, pigs might fly without mechanical assistance, too. Have to wait until I actually see it. He could surprise us all.

My big concern is the guy they have playing Le Chiffre. He has not only Peter Lorre's shoes to fill, but the gargantuan shoes of Orson Wells to fill, as well. To get that kind of emotion, they'll have to get somebody who would gladly see Daniel Craig broiled alive in his own juices.

Post by **inflatable dalek** » Tue May 09, 2006 3:24 pm

Anyone who thinks TF fans can be a bit extreme in reaction to every bit of news from the Movie should see the reaction of Bondage (?) peeps to the fact the gun barrell is going to happen in the film (at the end of the pre-credits sequence) rather than at the start.

Vin Ghostal · Post by **Vin Ghostal** » Tue May 09, 2006 3:37 pm

Originally posted by CloudStrifer
I won't pass judgement based on one trailer. I will wait to see the movie and then see if he measures up to the Bond name.

But how hard will that really be? The last five or six films have seriously tarnished the 007 legacy. Timothy Dalton's two installments (The Living Daylights and License to Kill) were both awful, and while GoldenEye was superb, every other Pierce Brosnan installment was nothing more than another run-of-the-mill action film. Nothing wrong with the production quality, but nothing particularly interesting, either.

Many criticized the choice of Brosnan prior to the release of GoldenEye, and I believe that those people were proven wrong. Why not reserve judgments until after seeing the film?

Post by **inflatable dalek** » Tue May 09, 2006 3:44 pm

I'm not sure how the Brosnan films tarnished the legacy when they made bucket loads of money and made a Bond film a big event again for the first time since... Ohhhhh Moonraker say.