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Old 2018-06-29, 09:52 AM   #1
Clay
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I get a warning similar to this in the address bar:

Warning: this website does not support encryption for the page you are viewing.

This is on both the laptop with firefox (60.0.2, updated this month), and on the phone with whatever internet app is on it. Anyone else?
 
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Old 2018-07-01, 01:56 PM   #2
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At a guess, Firefox have started doing something similar to Chrome where a site with what it assumes is a login form (i.e. fields marked username/password or similar) is flagged as not secure if it isn't using https. Chrome isn't particularly in-your-face about it, whereas it sounds as if Mozilla are being a bit more histrionic.

There's far more chance that someone with physical access to a device you're using will retrieve the browser cookie, which is sufficient to authenticate, and most workplaces and public access points MITM tamper with https traffic so they can filter it, so whilst it's with good intentions the protection is rather circumscribed.

Certificates aren't all they're cracked up to be either;
https://arstechnica.com/information-...0-https-certs/

I looked at https://letsencrypt.org/ for my own site, but it's not particularly straightforward unless a host has the control panel integration (and hosts are generally resellers for paid certificate providers).

TL;DR it's probably not going to change any time soon. And I think realistically this place is on a wind down -- I'll get the forum onto a version that supports PHP7 when I can make time, but I think it's past major changes.

On a complete tangent, last I noticed Mozilla had decided they wanted to hemorrhage users by breaking extensions like DownThemAll and refusing to modify their API.

edit:

Some interesting discussion on the http/https thing --

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/0...ttps-misguided
 

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Old 2018-07-02, 01:30 AM   #3
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TL;DR it's probably not going to change any time soon. And I think realistically this place is on a wind down -- I'll get the forum onto a version that supports PHP7 when I can make time, but I think it's past major changes.
Yeah, but I don't want to give up on the place. I know there're other forums/communities, but it's the people here I like.
 
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Old 2018-07-27, 10:17 PM   #4
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Hey Guys,

I am forever grateful to you for keeping this place alive even though I've basically not had anything to do with it for 10 years now.

The site is so cheap to maintain these days that I will likely keep it online as long as possible, but I don't fault anyone for moving on after so many years.

I'm more than happy to get a cert for the site to ensure browsers don't block us in the future. I would suggest we do some upgrades before in case there are issues with certs in our ancient version of the software (OS and forum).

As you know, I'm way out of practice on updating the forum software, especially with the modifications we use but I'm more than willing to help out where possible. The site if backed up every morning at 4 AM eastern so if something breaks we can roll back to the previous day and if an mysqldump is taken we wouldn't lose any forum posts.

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Old 2018-07-28, 11:49 AM   #5
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it's the people here I like.
Sounds fake
 
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Old 2018-07-29, 04:12 PM   #6
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Sounds fake
Confirmed bot. Banhammer required.

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Old 2018-07-29, 10:10 PM   #7
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Hey Guys,

I am forever grateful to you for keeping this place alive even though I've basically not had anything to do with it for 10 years now.

The site is so cheap to maintain these days that I will likely keep it online as long as possible, but I don't fault anyone for moving on after so many years.

I'm more than happy to get a cert for the site to ensure browsers don't block us in the future. I would suggest we do some upgrades before in case there are issues with certs in our ancient version of the software (OS and forum).

As you know, I'm way out of practice on updating the forum software, especially with the modifications we use but I'm more than willing to help out where possible. The site if backed up every morning at 4 AM eastern so if something breaks we can roll back to the previous day and if an mysqldump is taken we wouldn't lose any forum posts.

Thanks again.
As always, huge thanks to you for keeping the place a going concern for this long, it's still a very regular visit and place to keep up with people although life's caught up with most of us time-wise (mostly trying to renovate a house, personally).

If it's practical the free Let's Encrypt Certbot route is the way I'd go and on this kind of hosting it probably is. (Is this still a RH-type distro?)

Fingers crossed the forum on current branch shouldn't be too tricky -- the maintainers seem to have recognised that this major version is still widespread, particularly amongst what's left of the vbulletin.org modding community (there's been some kind of major parting of the ways with the owners and the people who were helming the latter though).

Will try to get it done sooner rather than later to give time to sort out OS/package upgrades.
 
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Old 2018-08-03, 11:59 AM   #8
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why don t you try WordPress ?
 
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