Pregnant man expecting second child

martyboy70 · Post by **martyboy70** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:58 pm

Well someones been a busy boy (or girl) and having given birth on June 29th of this year Thomas Beatie is pregnant again.

http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/Article ... d=10955921

Congrats to all involved.

Whats your opinion on this pretty unusual set of circumstances?

Post by **inflatable dalek** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:32 pm

Well first, it's not unusual. Whilst the expectant parent is officially (and quiet rightly) regarded as a man this is still a case of "Person with womb bearing child", a complete non story. When someone fully biologically a man gives birth, then you have a story.

And secondly, this isn't the first couple in these circumstances to do this. There's been at least one other, and who knows possibly bugger loads but they all had the sense not to whore out their story to gullible papers and chat show hosts for a pot of money in exchange for making sure their kids get nothing but repeated and constant bullying throughout their school lives (and likely beyond). There's nothing wrong or freaky in this, but as with that breastfeeding woman story we had a thread on a while back, actually telling the whole world about it loudly and publicly isn't remotely good for the children because kids are bastards.

martyboy70 · Post by **martyboy70** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:33 pm

Whoa there tiger I think you reckon Im having a go but Im so not.
This was meant as a thread of congratulations and well wishing to all involved look I even said it in the thread opener.
I know Im often a cynical barsteward but not this time.
Before Kyle(see Avatar) came along in December of last year(my god is it nearly a year) I may have had my doubts about this but knowing now how much a child enriches your life Im all for anyone who can have one (or two) going for it.
Im not rat**** or TF****uard posting a thread purely for the controversy and meant this as a "well done" rather than a "ooh lets poke the...."

And you said its not unusual but Ill bet in most maternity wards/wings there arent a lot of people giving birth who are legally regarded as a man-so it is a bit.

Post by **inflatable dalek** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:02 am

martyboy70 wrote:Whoa there tiger I think you reckon Im having a go but Im so not.

I know you weren't having a go. You did ask for opinions rather than agreement, yes? To reiterate, nothing wrong with having children in this way, and though I'm not a father myself I do have some decent second hand knowledge of how much children can change and enrich your life, and sure its many times moreso for actual parents. Using your unborn child as a cash card (and again, none of the other couple who have done this have felt the need) and journalists who don't do even basic level research before handing over a check and proclaiming something a world first are what gets my goat.

rattrap23 · Post by **rattrap23** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:42 am

Forgive me but this just seems bizarre.

Dose anyone remember this?

http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?t=43963

secretcode · Post by **secretcode** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:08 am

A completely idiotic argument that ended in a lock? I'm not surprised in the slightest.

Post by **Denyer** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:32 pm

Anyone else feel that people who think they have a "right" to children -- biologically theirs or otherwise -- deserve a damn good kick in the face?

Clogs · Post by **Clogs** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:53 pm

Denyer wrote:Anyone else feel that people who think they have a "right" to children -- biologically theirs or otherwise -- deserve a damn good kick in the face?

Yes.

Especially the ones who want a fashion accessory or free benefits.

electro girl · Post by **electro girl** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:57 pm

Clogs wrote:Yes.

Especially the ones who want a fashion accessory or free benefits.

Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the historic port city of Kingston upon Hull or to the locals (not me I can talk) 'Ull'

rattrap23 · Post by **rattrap23** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:36 pm

Denyer wrote:Anyone else feel that people who think they have a "right" to children -- biologically theirs or otherwise -- deserve a damn good kick in the face?

Yes.
Most people who insist they have the right to do things are either A) In a horrible time or place, or B) trying to gain the right to get away with whatever the hell they want.

secretcode · Post by **secretcode** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:50 pm

Clogs wrote:...or free benefits.

Say hello to half of my graduating class. 24 girls walked the line pregnant. 13 already had kids that year and 5 of them had multiple kids since Middle School. Guess what? 32 of those girls I know personally and they are jobless at home on Government assistance. Welcome to rural Kentucky.

rattrap23 · Post by **rattrap23** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:00 pm

secretcode wrote:Say hello to half of my graduating class. 24 girls walked the line pregnant. 13 already had kids that year and 5 of them had multiple kids since Middle School. Guess what? 32 of those girls I know personally and they are jobless at home on Government assistance. Welcome to rural Kentucky.

How many girls total?

secretcode · Post by **secretcode** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:04 pm

About 80.

Clogs · Post by **Clogs** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:45 pm

Kentucky pwns 'Ull.

Sad, innit? Within a few years we could be seeing pregnant 'males' graduating if ever the idea that men have the right to bear their own offspring takes off.

electro girl · Post by **electro girl** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:18 pm

Clogs wrote:Kentucky pwns 'Ull.

Nearly everything does by eck.