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New Generations figures
If you are interesting in seeing some new Generations figures, here are Dark Shadow and Junkheap.
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As trivial as it is, Sky Shadow's bio is a huge disappointment for me. Considering he's known for exactly two things in the west -- "Space Mafia" and "enthusiastic Phase Sixer" -- I was hoping we'd get a bio going on about how he gleefully destroys worlds for Megatron or runs around loan-sharking and putting horse heads in people's recharge beds. Instead it's "he's so amazingly, generically evil that even Megatron is afraid of him!" It's too bad...something that fleshed out either of the little bits we know about him would have been nice, but instead we've now got a third conflicting snapshot of the guy. Stuff like that really makes me appreciate the work Budiansky put into this sort of thing in the 80s...
I like the look of the toy, but the Thunderwing mold isn't my favourite...under normal circumstances this would probably be a pass. But the years I spent running Black Shadow and his entire criminal syndicate in the RPG means I've got a strong attachment to the character, so there's really no way I won't be buying this even though I know the toy isn't that great.
Junkheap doesn't impress me as much, and I don't take Wreck-Gar down off the shelf very often so I don't think there's any reason for me to own that mold twice (especially since I only own it once because it was half-price at a store that had the Tracks I was looking for).
As trivial as it is, Sky Shadow's bio is a huge disappointment for me. Considering he's known for exactly two things in the west -- "Space Mafia" and "enthusiastic Phase Sixer" -- I was hoping we'd get a bio going on about how he gleefully destroys worlds for Megatron or runs around loan-sharking and putting horse heads in people's recharge beds. Instead it's "he's so amazingly, generically evil that even Megatron is afraid of him!" It's too bad...something that fleshed out either of the little bits we know about him would have been nice, but instead we've now got a third conflicting snapshot of the guy. Stuff like that really makes me appreciate the work Budiansky put into this sort of thing in the 80s...
I like the look of the toy, but the Thunderwing mold isn't my favourite...under normal circumstances this would probably be a pass. But the years I spent running Black Shadow and his entire criminal syndicate in the RPG means I've got a strong attachment to the character, so there's really no way I won't be buying this even though I know the toy isn't that great.
Junkheap doesn't impress me as much, and I don't take Wreck-Gar down off the shelf very often so I don't think there's any reason for me to own that mold twice (especially since I only own it once because it was half-price at a store that had the Tracks I was looking for).
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Actually, that's a good point. How often does Hasbro produce new toys for Japan-exclusive G1 figures, anyway? The only other one I can think of right now is Alternators Ricochet. And like Black Shadow, he's in the "we have no one else to redeco a popular character as" camp. I guess King Atlas too, but that was a long time ago and a pretty weak effort to boot.tahukanuva wrote:I'm glad that I like Thunderwing and that Black Shadow looks good, because I'm locked in for every Victory update they make until I have a Deathsaurus.
It would be nice to see a few more Japanese characters show up in Generations, especially if they're handled as well as Black Shadow is. I'd be kind of surprised if Jazz didn't get redecoed as Ricochet eventually, but beyond that how many characters really have that high a profile over here? Overlord maybe...he'd be helped by his UK release back in the day and the huge popularity of LSOTW, but the original toy is pretty complex and they might be leery of touching that. Star Saber is probably the most likely candidate, although if they did make him I think they'd probably redesign him pretty heavily given that the original toy (and the faithful Robot Masters mold) has the worst jet mode ever.
The only other Japanese characters I can think of who'd fit the bill are Minerva, Metalhawk, Artfire and, yes, Deathsaurus. So if a new Black Shadow toy is a sign of things to come, they'll probably get to Deathy eventually.
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Well, there's Energon Wingsaber, but he's shit. And the various Sunstorms and black Scorponoks kinda qualify.Warcry wrote:The only other one I can think of right now is Alternators Ricochet. [...] Star Saber is probably the most likely candidate
In general, especially recently, Hasbro has really impressed me with their dedication to the fanbase (even if it does come with a few dozen arbitrary Nightbeats). I mean, geezus, Black Shadow, Guzzle, and friggin' Straxus all within the span of about a year? We've never been so spoiled.
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Fixed that for you.tahukanuva wrote: I mean, geezus, Black Shadow, Guzzle, Warpath, and friggin' Straxus all within the span of about a year? We've never been so spoiled.
But yes, we have been spoiled. Even with the engineering quality in the figures we've been getting lately. Also, we've gotten what, at least one convention exclusive released as a general market one?
I'm looking forward to what next years Generations figures will bring at the very least. I'm mildly curious to see who they turn Kup into, and if I'm right about the forthcoming Scourge retool. The only downfall I can see is that Generations is a "Deluxe only" line. Might mean that some of the possible Victory toys might be a little on the small side unless they cheat, like they did with the RTS line. Also, with the WFC set of figures, will we see FoC figures come out as well? I'd love a WFC style Jazz, Prowl, or Grimlock.
Hasbro's bio writers can only make generic stuff. When they try to flesh something out, they flesh out shit like Hot Shot's JaAm obsession, something that doesn't even come from any of the three shows Armada Hot Shot has appeared in.Warcry wrote:something that fleshed out either of the little bits we know about him would have been nice, but instead we've now got a third conflicting snapshot of the guy.
I mean, jAaM, for feck's sake. Sure, Hot Shot's got the personality of a boring cliched kiddie character, but instead of fleshing out something people might remember, they flesh out jaAM.
So is it any wonder that they won't even bother researching who the heck Black Shadow is? I mean, all the work the toy designers put in repainting the toy and making a new head, and the toy bios are written by monkeys.
Japan's done it, complete with a Simon Furman-penned comic to advertise him to boot. Artfire's coming too, if the comic is anything to go by.Warcry wrote:I'd be kind of surprised if Jazz didn't get redecoed as Ricochet eventually,
Stepper, not Ricochet, damn it. Stepper is so Engrish that it's fun to say.
Somehow I can see Overlord being done as a simple Duocon-type thing, though for my life I have no idea how they're going to design a modern Overlord toy without making loads of compromises.Overlord maybe...he'd be helped by his UK release back in the day and the huge popularity of LSOTW, but the original toy is pretty complex and they might be leery of touching that.
Why not? They managed to dole out Acid Storm, why not Junkheap, a character based on a recurring generic Junkion model in the cartoon and comics?Ulcrain wrote:All of character in the world, why Junkheap?
Warpath was featured a lot in the original cartoon. He hardly belongs on a list with a Japanese-exclusive character, a Sparkabot and someone who was created in the comics just to die a couple issues later.Thunderwave wrote:Fixed that for you.
If we actually get a chance to complain about that, we should consider ourselves lucky.Thunderwave wrote:The only downfall I can see is that Generations is a "Deluxe only" line. Might mean that some of the possible Victory toys might be a little on the small side unless they cheat, like they did with the RTS line.
Apparently Hasbro announced to their investors that FOC would get a 'full product line', whatever that might mean.Thunderwave wrote:Also, with the WFC set of figures, will we see FoC figures come out as well? I'd love a WFC style Jazz, Prowl, or Grimlock.
Ricochet actually means something and is related to his personality and function.Blackjack wrote:Stepper, not Ricochet, damn it. Stepper is so Engrish that it's fun to say.
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I have a different memory of Straxus, but then I grew up with the Marvel UK comics. He lasted a good bit longer there then in the US. I think that's why I flipped shit when I saw he was getting a figure. If it makes you feel better swap out Warpath for Skullgrin, the Pink Wonder Pretender. I never thought he would be getting a new toy. Makes me hope for an Octopunch.Warcry wrote:Warpath was featured a lot in the original cartoon. He hardly belongs on a list with a Japanese-exclusive character, a Sparkabot and someone who was created in the comics just to die a couple issues later.
Stepper is a dancer... which, agreed, makes no sense with his original 'no-nonsense lawful good serious all the time' character description.Warcry wrote:Ricochet actually means something and is related to his personality and function.
Unless he takes his dancing just as seriously. He respects the dance.
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