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Orion1 · Post by **Orion1** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:52 pm

I saw a few episodes of the cartoon that took place after the movie, but haven't watched them in along time, could someone tell me if any of the following characters were brought back in the cartoon after the movie?

Ratchet
Ironhide
Prowl
Bumblebee
Any of the Dinobots.

Thanks:)

Sixswitch · Post by **Sixswitch** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:55 pm

Originally posted by Orion1

Bumblebee
Any of the Dinobots.

All of the Dinobots appeared after the movie in a few episodes. Bumblebee appeared rarely (I think), and in Return of Optimus Prime, was destroyed by a Hate Plage affected Superion, before being rebuilt as Goldbug (who also appeared in Rebirth).

The others did not, unless you count animation errors (in which case, Bumblebee appeared at the end of Rebirth too).

-Ss

Orion1 · Post by **Orion1** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 7:00 pm

Thanks for the info Sixswitch.

jepc71 · Post by **jepc71** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:06 pm

Actually Ironhide and Rachet both appear after the movie, in the episode Dark Awakening. But they are in their tombs in a mausoleum. So techinically they did appear

Orion1 · Post by **Orion1** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:42 pm

I meant appearances where the character was still alive jepc71. I see your point though, technically, they did make appearances. Just a shame they weren't brought back to life.

jepc71 · Post by **jepc71** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:19 pm

Well...we know their bodies will never be broughtback to life since the mausoleum was destoryed by the quints...so don't hold out to much hope...luckly though I don't think you see Wheeljacks tomb so there is still a chance for him

bluekatt · Post by **bluekatt** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:41 am

wheeljack was seen alive in the japanese victory series when he perceptor and minerva were rebuilding ginrai into victory leo

jepc71 · Post by **jepc71** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:52 am

Originally posted by bluekatt
wheeljack was seen alive in the japanese victory series when he perceptor and minerva were rebuilding ginrai into victory leo

But is the Japanese Victory Series the same continuity of the G1 series? Seriously...I don't know.

bluekatt · Post by **bluekatt** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:55 am

yes it is
but the japanese series disregard rebirth for their own take on it in headmasters
headmasters is followed by masterforce and master force by victory
and its the saem continuity as long as you are willing to disregard rebirth

jepc71 · Post by **jepc71** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:04 am

So do they explain why Wheeljack is back from the grave?

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:12 am

I think that by the time Victory was aired in Japan, they still hadn't got TF:TM, so as far as they were concerned Wheeljack wasn't dead.

jepc71 · Post by **jepc71** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:19 am

Got ya...at least he lives on somewhere

bluekatt · Post by **bluekatt** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:27 am

Originally posted by Ozz
I think that by the time Victory was aired in Japan, they still hadn't got TF:TM, so as far as they were concerned Wheeljack wasn't dead.

victory is from 89
matrix forever ( the movie ) was aired in 1990 in japan

Post by **inflatable dalek** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:08 pm

There isn't a huge problem with Wheeljacks ressurection as his tomb wasn't shown in Dark Awakening, so you just assume he was repaired after the movie. Yeah, I know Arcee looked preaty upset, but what does she know anyway?;)

Prowls appearence in Headmasters is a much bigger continuity headache as not only had he died in the movie, but his body was subsequently crashed into a sun...

bluekatt · Post by **bluekatt** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:03 pm

where exactly does prowl appear in head masters?
i stil cant stomach the star tv dubs even less thansk to the superior subbed versions of masterforce

jepc71 · Post by **jepc71** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:10 pm

Did Windchanger ever make it back then since he was right next to Wheeljack?

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:49 pm

Originally posted by jepc71
Did Windchanger ever make it back then since he was right next to Wheeljack?

Yes, he did.

Post by **inflatable dalek** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:32 pm

Originally posted by bluekatt
where exactly does prowl appear in head masters?

In "Four Warriors From The Sky", he's part of Ultra Magnus's Earth Force. In the Star TV dub his line was somthing like "We were lucky that time" in a strange voice that sounds like one of the three voice actors trying to disguise the normal tones they use... For all I know he might have been offering a detailed explanation ofr his survival in the Japanese version.

jepc71 · Post by **jepc71** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:20 pm

Originally posted by Ozz
Yes, he did.

Do you know where? Like Victory, or something else?

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:44 pm

Originally posted by jepc71
Do you know where? Like Victory, or something else?

Nah, like 'Call Of The Primitives'.

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