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Old 2018-03-14, 12:49 AM   #221
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I had a ton of Micromasters when I was little, but mostly I just pretended they were little versions of characters I didn't have toys of that had the same alt-modes. So Overload was Ultra Magnus, Tote was Ironhide, Fixit was Ratchet, Stakeout was Prowl, etc... Didn't really love them on their own merits.
Weird thing is that I didn't so much pretend the same as I thought this was actually the case - I never had all the comics which were pretty much the only source I had for knowing what toys were even out there, and even though I had the one issue where Fixit actually shows up on page, he isn't named so for all I knew there was only one Autobot medic and he was it - and I just assumed there were Micromaster versions of the other, more popular characters out there as well.

I never had complete teams though as the only way I ever got them were one by one at flea markets - and it kind of saddens me that about half the time I've bought new Micromasters as a collector, they've been in worse shape than my originals. I still need to replace Blackjack and Roadhugger with ones that actually hold together in vehicle mode.
 

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Old 2018-03-21, 02:55 PM   #222
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I had a ton of Micromasters when I was little, but mostly I just pretended they were little versions of characters I didn't have toys of that had the same alt-modes. So Overload was Ultra Magnus, Tote was Ironhide, Fixit was Ratchet, Stakeout was Prowl, etc... Didn't really love them on their own merits.
I didn't have much to compare them to at the time... come to think of it, I don't recall watching too much of the show when I was a kid (Season 1 only?), but the toys were fun!!!

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Energon Starscream is a fantastic choice. Actually, it's probably the best G1-looking Starscream figure out there, even over and above the various Generations and MP offerings.
Based on yours and Skyquake's recommendations, I grabbed an Energon Starscream off eBay just this morning. It's the G1 paint job one, and it was brand new for a good price. The shipping wasn't that appealing, but the total cost was only $1-2 more than buying a loose one with cheaper shipping. I figured the brand new one would be better for the price. The 'dark' colored ones were a bit cheaper all around for loose, but I liked the brighter color of the G1-esque figure better.

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Cybertron Starscream, at least the Voyager, I'm not so fond of. He's basically a gimmick brick, nowhere near as poseable or fun as he should be. I reviewed him, and he disappointed me.
Long ago I had the Voyager Dirge colored version, but it's been so long since I sold him off that I couldn't remember much. I think the various reviews here for the different versions pretty much touch on what I remember - good, not great, somewhat subdued in pose-ability, and the gimmicks are 'meh'. Looking at the relative cost across the Galaxy Force Voyager, Hasbro-Thrust Voyager, and Supreme Class, it's a toss up. The Thrust-version is the cheapest, seeming to run ~$30 with shipping - but I don't know if I'll be fond of the color scheme in the long run. The Galaxy Force version I like better, but the prices on eBay are absurd. For that type of cost, I would be inclined to buy the Supreme figure - which is much cheaper than the GF Voyager. though takes up so much more space. The Year of the Horse Supreme runs about the same as a used Cybertron one. I think I'll be pondering this one for a while before pulling the trigger.

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Thanks for the input!

Armada OP looks nice, I've thought about that one before but never went for it.

I previously owned a Unicron before, but never really messed with it much, leading to me selling him off to save space (which ties into my thoughts on Cyb. Starscream).

I think some of the Energon Scouts are neat too, and almost got Storm Surge several times when he was re-released during the 2007 movie timeframe. I may just have to look at those again at a later time.
 

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Old 2018-03-21, 07:44 PM   #223
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Weird thing is that I didn't so much pretend the same as I thought this was actually the case - I never had all the comics which were pretty much the only source I had for knowing what toys were even out there, and even though I had the one issue where Fixit actually shows up on page, he isn't named so for all I knew there was only one Autobot medic and he was it - and I just assumed there were Micromaster versions of the other, more popular characters out there as well.
A totally reasonable assumption, since you weren't buying them new and seeing the toy packaging. And it probably would have been a better way to go than what Hasbro actually did, at least as far as driving sales was concerned. Come to think of it, that's basically what happened with Legends of Cybertron/Cyberverse, isn't it?

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Based on yours and Skyquake's recommendations, I grabbed an Energon Starscream off eBay just this morning. It's the G1 paint job one, and it was brand new for a good price. The shipping wasn't that appealing, but the total cost was only $1-2 more than buying a loose one with cheaper shipping. I figured the brand new one would be better for the price. The 'dark' colored ones were a bit cheaper all around for loose, but I liked the brighter color of the G1-esque figure better.
Nice! It's been ages but I seem to recall the G1-coloured figure was pretty rare back in the day, being a late-run redeco that people actually wanted. I know I wanted to track one down myself, but never had much luck.

Actually, after we started talking about Energon Starscream I pulled mine out of storage and he's still great. Mine is the half-transparent version, but the smoky dark green looks really nice. Unfortunately time has gotten the better of him, and he's got some pretty loose hips and a fair bit of paint damage. Still a top-notch figure though. In fact, he's hanging out with my Generations 'Cons now while the Classics mold has been banished to storage.

Maybe I'll track down the redeco myself so that I can have a version of the mold that's not so beat up?

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Long ago I had the Voyager Dirge colored version, but it's been so long since I sold him off that I couldn't remember much. I think the various reviews here for the different versions pretty much touch on what I remember - good, not great, somewhat subdued in pose-ability, and the gimmicks are 'meh'. Looking at the relative cost across the Galaxy Force Voyager, Hasbro-Thrust Voyager, and Supreme Class, it's a toss up. The Thrust-version is the cheapest, seeming to run ~$30 with shipping - but I don't know if I'll be fond of the color scheme in the long run. The Galaxy Force version I like better, but the prices on eBay are absurd. For that type of cost, I would be inclined to buy the Supreme figure - which is much cheaper than the GF Voyager. though takes up so much more space. The Year of the Horse Supreme runs about the same as a used Cybertron one. I think I'll be pondering this one for a while before pulling the trigger.
Looking more closely at the different versions, it still amazes me how little difference there is between not just the Supreme and the Voyager, but even the Legends-class figure! And honestly, the engineering is better-suited to the smaller side of the spectrum. The robot design and alt-mode are nice, though, and I'd love it if Hasbro looped back and made a Generations figure based on it like they did with Armada Starscream. Without the Cyber Key gimmick holding the design back I think you could make a fantastic Deluxe out it.

If you decide to go with the Thrust-coloured version you're welcome to mine, though I'd honestly say it's probably the ugliest of the whole lot and you'd probably be happier with any of the other options, including the Dirge you already got rid of.
 
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Old 2018-03-22, 04:32 PM   #224
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Nice! It's been ages but I seem to recall the G1-coloured figure was pretty rare back in the day, being a late-run redeco that people actually wanted. I know I wanted to track one down myself, but never had much luck.

Actually, after we started talking about Energon Starscream I pulled mine out of storage and he's still great. Mine is the half-transparent version, but the smoky dark green looks really nice. Unfortunately time has gotten the better of him, and he's got some pretty loose hips and a fair bit of paint damage. Still a top-notch figure though. In fact, he's hanging out with my Generations 'Cons now while the Classics mold has been banished to storage.

Maybe I'll track down the redeco myself so that I can have a version of the mold that's not so beat up?
I seriously debated on having the green one, which probably would have saved me $5, and I would have had a more cartoon authentic version. Couldn't If I like the mold enough, I might be tracking down the original like you might track down the G1.

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Looking more closely at the different versions, it still amazes me how little difference there is between not just the Supreme and the Voyager, but even the Legends-class figure! And honestly, the engineering is better-suited to the smaller side of the spectrum. The robot design and alt-mode are nice, though, and I'd love it if Hasbro looped back and made a Generations figure based on it like they did with Armada Starscream. Without the Cyber Key gimmick holding the design back I think you could make a fantastic Deluxe out it.

If you decide to go with the Thrust-coloured version you're welcome to mine, though I'd honestly say it's probably the ugliest of the whole lot and you'd probably be happier with any of the other options, including the Dirge you already got rid of.
I used to have the tiny Sunstorm one too (and Ramjet and I think Thrust from the Universe 5 pack), and you're right the engineering isn't that much different. I don't know how that translates to the monstrous Supreme-class, but I agree that the engineering is more appropriate for a smaller size. Seems like the larger size class would be overly simple, and it takes up a ton of space to boot. I'm only considering the Supreme based on cost, plus it would be kind of funny to have a massive Starscream on the shelf. That said, the size might wear on me over time, whereas a Voyager sized-one is easier to live with, and far easier to get off the shelf and fiddle with.

Thanks for the offer on Starscream! I won't be buying any of them just yet, so if you're not itching to jettison him please do so. Otherwise, I may come back later and ask you. I'll have to consider if I can wrap my mind around the not-Starscream colors; I guess he's not too far off the Armada scheme though? It's also tough to pay nearly triple for the better colored Galaxy Force version, so the after-market may force my hand anyways.
 

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Old 2018-03-28, 04:40 PM   #225
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Energon Starscream showed up in the mail a couple days ago. Very nice figure like you all mentioned. I've been fiddling with him quite a bit, and I like the 'hyper mode' play features he has, though it is a little strange to have to flip out his wings just to shoot the missiles. His ginormous weapons are ridiculous! They're fun, but I wish they were a touch smaller - the combined sword is so gargantuan that he can barely wield it. All in all though, very solid figure for it's age, and I'm glad I got it 'new'. The packaging is nice, though I'm surprised at how large the backing of the bubble is for a deluxe figure. Maybe it just seems bigger since it's flipped sideways compared to modern ones. Also of note - I appreciate the art/specs card that he comes with, as all the CW/TR/PotP figures I have came with one, so it's a nice 'throwback' to add to the collection.
 

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Old 2018-04-02, 02:22 PM   #226
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Also ended up with a Galaxy Force Starscream that didn't run me too much $ on eBay. Didn't come with his gun/missile, but overall I'm very happy with him. The mold is pretty chunky, he's got minimal arm range, but I'll deal with it. I really like the color scheme, and as Warcry mentioned, the engineering seems more suited to the 'smaller' class (not Supreme). The figure I got is in great shape, but a tiny bit dusty. Getting him into some dynamic poses is a pain sometimes, since the angles everything comes off at can leave him unbalanced. I guess that's due to the multitude of ratcheting joints, but I'd rather have that than floppy pin joints on him.

The funny thing is, I was watching a video review of Cybertron Optimus Prime, and as the guy was fiddling with him, the toy sounded very creaky. My GF Starscream has the same issue, creaking all over, and it's not the joints. Just the way the plastic parts were put together. Not an issue, just an oddity. I haven't noticed that symptom on most of my other figures.
 

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Old 2018-04-02, 04:54 PM   #227
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After this thread reminded me of Cybertron Hot Shot I found where mine was hiding. Five minutes later my son had claimed him for his own, so I didn't really get a chance to appreciate him, but the two and a half year old sure does! He's not super interested in transforming him (aside from flipping the feet in and out and laughing like a madman about it), but apparently he's the coolest car ever when you're that little. Or as my little guy says "Vrummm! Vrummm!"

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Energon Starscream showed up in the mail a couple days ago. Very nice figure like you all mentioned. I've been fiddling with him quite a bit, and I like the 'hyper mode' play features he has, though it is a little strange to have to flip out his wings just to shoot the missiles. His ginormous weapons are ridiculous! They're fun, but I wish they were a touch smaller - the combined sword is so gargantuan that he can barely wield it.
I'm not even quite sure where my Starscream's big weapons have gotten to. I don't think I've ever equipped him with them because they're just impractically huge for a Deluxe. Also, being trans-green doesn't really help matters much because you can't make out any of the molded details.

Actually, most of the time I'll pop his missiles out and pose him using them as batons if I want to display him with weapons.

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The funny thing is, I was watching a video review of Cybertron Optimus Prime, and as the guy was fiddling with him, the toy sounded very creaky. My GF Starscream has the same issue, creaking all over, and it's not the joints. Just the way the plastic parts were put together. Not an issue, just an oddity. I haven't noticed that symptom on most of my other figures.
Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure my Cybertron Starscream is afflicted with the same problem. In the hips, I think? It's been a while since I've handled him but the moment you mentioned it I started getting flashbacks.
 
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Old 2018-09-01, 06:12 PM   #228
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While reorganizing my living room, I wound up spending some time getting reacquainted with my Animated Ironhide and Rodimus Major figures, and I have to say, they’re even better than I remember. The thing that really surprised me was the fact that Rodimus’ paint didn’t flake off in my hands like I thought it would. Although I am hoping Roddy doesn’t fall prey to gold plastic syndrome......
 

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Old 2018-09-17, 02:38 AM   #229
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I saw Maz's comment over at TFW about how the fuel hose on his New Year's Convoy reissue had disintegrated, so I took mine out of the box to treat the rubber parts...only for the fuel hose on mine to fall into pieces as well.
 
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Old 2018-09-17, 07:02 PM   #230
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Is that the one with the Action Master Prime packed in?
 
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Old 2018-09-17, 08:28 PM   #231
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Yeah.

Honestly never liked that rubber hose. I think the original came with a hollow tube, but this reissue came with a solid rubber cable that was so stiff that Prime could've lifted Roller just by holding the the other end.
 

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Old 2018-11-07, 10:56 PM   #232
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Spent some time playing with some older figures. 2010-ish Terradive, Hailstorm, Tomahawk, and Scourge. I had forgotten how fun Tomahawk and Hailstorm are, but I well remembered just how great Scourge and Terradive are.
 
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