lost in translation

RUNAMOK · Post by **RUNAMOK** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:04 pm

some countryes do actuly have other names for the transformers, not only japan

I remember some differencen when i thin bach to the G2 show (didn't see "g1" was not born at that time)

one of the main things was that the bad guys never vere called Decepticons, they were called Bedragere, what means somyhing like cheater.
some of the subgroops did also have other names, the most were changet to "mobots" insthe of cons or bots
exsampels flymobotter, stuntmobotter, krigsmobotter and so on

I have also some strange vidios and dvds, where the decepticons are called bedraoner,
some of the names on the figures has also changed, cliffjumper is called kilppespringer(his name in danish), hound is called spejder(what means scout), and optimus prime is called primus optimus.

if my memory serws there was also some changes in the german wersion, that i also saw when i was small(I am actuly better in speaking german then english) I think that Devastator was called der Zerstörer(his name in german)

are there else enny countryes with that cind of namechanges?

Edit: there are more names, laserbeak is called lasernæb(his name in danish), ratchet is called klinker, sparkplug is called sjakbejs, bluestreak is called blåstreg, reflektor is called refleks, rumble is sometimes called rumle,

there was also some diferences in the german version of beast wars, the predacons were saying transform instead of terorise, what sounds kind of wrong in german, or danish for that matter, some of the names had also been modified a little for easyer prounaunsment, skorpinok, tarantulus, terrusaurus

in energon they use the decepticon term

bluekatt · Post by **bluekatt** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:00 pm

over in my neck of the woords ( the netherlands )
no names were actually changed
save for optimus prime's name during the first 4 issues of the comic due to various legal reasons he was known as jetfire first
other then that the names in the comics appeared like they did in the american versions
might as well
we were totally ****ed over as far as the comic was concerned

RUNAMOK · Post by **RUNAMOK** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:15 pm

I also have some Danish comiks, they are like the u.s. ones, exept they have two stories and tree or four universe profiles in one relese, the only thing they have changed there, to my notice, is that they call the decepticons for bedragere

Post by **inflatable dalek** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:24 pm

Originally posted by RUNAMOK
and optimus prime is called primus optimus.

I wonder if Furman had seen a Danish Prime toy at some point before Legion of Unicron...

I think there were a few UK releases that had different names to their US counterparts (one of the Seacons definately).

Cliffjumper · Post by **Cliffjumper** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:29 pm

Only Jawbreaker/Overrbite from the original line, IIRC. Several of the European-only releases had differnt names, as did much of G2.

Post by **inflatable dalek** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:32 pm

Is there anything you don't know?;)
I only remembered the Seacon because of the letters to the comic asking why his name changed every week...

Darth Shrapnel · Post by **Darth Shrapnel** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:59 pm

I think all the Autobots had animal names in the Italian version.

DrSpengler · Post by **DrSpengler** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:08 pm

Don't they call him "Optimus Primo" (pronounced "preemoh") in Italy?

I dunno.

RUNAMOK · Post by **RUNAMOK** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:54 pm

I dont know if the toy is called primus optimus, I have only seen it in those vidios, in the comik he is called optimus prime.

those strange vidios and dvds are produced by some firm called George, I defenetly don't think they are offical

bluekatt · Post by **bluekatt** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 11:43 pm

Originally posted by RUNAMOK
I also have some Danish comiks, they are like the u.s. ones, exept they have two stories and tree or four universe profiles in one relese, the only thing they have changed there, to my notice, is that they call the decepticons for bedragere

the dutch comics were the american comics a bi monthly comic with two american issues mushed together and sometimes padded out with universe profiles
and on two occasions heavily edited uk comics ( 188 and 189 i believe )
if you are really interested on how bad the dutch comic was screwed over ill note you

Arcee · Post by **Arcee** » Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:01 am

Originally posted by DrSpengler
Don't they call him "Optimus Primo" (pronounced "preemoh") in Italy?

I dunno.

Don't know about that, but they call Optimus Primal "Black Jack", for some odd reason. [/useless trivia]

Nevermore · Post by **Nevermore** » Sat Jan 01, 2005 3:56 am

Grimlock is called "Tiran" in Italy.

The German toys, cartoon and comic characters all retained their US names. The only exception is Devastator, whose name was translated into "Der Vernichter" ("The annihilator") in the German TV dub from 1994 (first German airing of the movie). The toy was still named "Devastator", though, and his name was also left unchanged in the comics and the few cartoon episodes we got.

Okay, we also had stuff like "Autobohts" and "Laserbreak" (!) in the German cartoon dub (and "Laserback" in the new DVD movie dub from 2004), bud that's due to bad pronunciation/misconception of the written names rather than actual renaming.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Sat Jan 01, 2005 8:34 am

Originally posted by Cliffjumper
Only Jawbreaker/Overrbite from the original line, IIRC. Several of the European-only releases had differnt names, as did much of G2.

Wasn't Slag toy's name changed? I think I heard something about that. Or maybe that was Windy joking again...

I can't get myself to watch Armada on Polish TV, because of changed names and terrible translation (mostly because of that). What's the point of changing Demolisher and Cyclonus into Demolatron and Cyclotron?

Same thing happened in Beast Wars, and to lesser extent in G1 episodes that were released on video tapes.

The names in Marvel comic published in middle 90's were left in their original form. There were 10 issues of Armada published last year, but I haven't read them. It's highly likely they did the same thing what they did in the cartoon.

RUNAMOK · Post by **RUNAMOK** » Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:21 am

well I geus my memory isn't that good Nevermore, but I think evry ones memory would fade after not seeing it in 10 years.

With danish vidioes I made a little mistake, George is just the series name, they are actuly produced by a firm called Salut

Edit: I have only seen those strange namechanges on those DVDs and vidios, I think that there toys were called by there orginal names like in the comic

Darth Shrapnel · Post by **Darth Shrapnel** » Sat Jan 01, 2005 9:52 pm

In the mexican dub of G1 everyone kept the same names, but a lot were changed for BW; Rattrap was "RataTrampa", Starscream was "Destello" and Ravage was "Devastador"

, Cheetor was "Cheeta" (I think) and Optimus Primal was "Optimus Primitivo", though they were all changed back to their original names in BM.

Almighty Galvatron · Post by **Almighty Galvatron** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:32 am

From memory, the Italian for Jazz is Tigra

MeGrimlock · Post by **MeGrimlock** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:00 pm

In the '80s, GiG, the italian company that imported Transformers toys in our country feared that italian kids would be unable to spell english Transformers names.
Some examples:

Thus, GiG changed most of them.

Autobots became Autorobot;
Decepticons became Distructors.

Optimus Prime became "Commander";
Prow, Pantera (i.e. panther)
Jazz, "Tigre" (i.e. tiger);
Bumblebee, "Maggiolino" (perfect translation

);
Starscream, "Astrum" ( "astra", latin for "stars") ;
Laserbeak, "Gufo" (i.e. "Owl");
Rodimus Prime became "Captain".
And so on.

Many Transformers had animal names -.-

But now GiG holds Transformers rights no more. Hasbro Italia has takeon over and Transformers names remain unchanged.

RUNAMOK · Post by **RUNAMOK** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:34 pm

I had totaly forgotten about "Autorobots"

that term is mentioned two times with thoes videos again,
once on the cover text on the backside,, and once in "the ultimade doom" where Wheeljacs says somthing about living in an Autorobot factory.

I don't know if that Wheeljack said was an error or a mistranslation

MeGrimlock · Post by **MeGrimlock** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:01 pm

Wheeljack was "Saetta", that means "chain-lightning". Not an animal name, this time

Cliffjumper · Post by **Cliffjumper** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:01 pm

Tantrum was Torox too... and I think G2 Motorhead was Bufalo. If we could get a complete list, it'd be the sort of thing that'd be really handy on the main site

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