Horses not beaten to death yet (WARNING: not to be taken seriously)

Nevermore · Post by **Nevermore** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:45 pm

In the past few years, everyone and their mother have already come up with a gazillion of "working concepts" for Hasbro to reissue G1 Megatron (paint the barrel orange, paint the entire toy orange, release him in robot mode and don't mention the gun mode) or Fortress/Brave Maximus (improve the materials, release him as a model kit) in the US.

We had 1.000.000.000.000.000 discussions about whether Rumble and/or Frenzy are red, blue, green, pink or neon orange. Each time, someone believed he found the "ultimate proof" one way or the other.

I don't know how many people already believed to be the "first" to come up with a way to explain the conflicting origins of the Constructicons, incorporate the "Primus" and the "Quintesson" origins into one "combined" origin or even to determine the original identites of Cyclonus and Scourge.

Likewise, I don't know how many people complained about Altertnators Ravage existing, Dead End not being Sunstreaker, Windcharger's barrel missing, Decepticharge's deco and name...

And then there's the people who will never tire to complain about names changed for trademark or other reasons, such as Alternators "Silverstreak", Alternators "Meister", Alternators & Energon "Shockblast" or Energon "Downshift". And of course, they will always boast about naming them "the way they are supposed to be named", and then refer to the toys as "Meister (I refuse to name him that!)".

However, those horses have all been flogged not only to death, but there's not even a corpse left to be beaten anymore.

So I thought it'd be time to cut them some slag and come up with entirely new horses to beat to death.

I'm gonna make a start:

Hasbro/Takara should reissue G1 Shockwave, Sky Lynx, Omega Supreme, the Deluxe Autobots and the Deluxe Insecticons!

Yeah, I know they don't own the molds, but they could just remold them slightly like they did with RiD X-Brawn!

Or they could just ask Bandai!

Or they could get the licenses for Shockwave from Radio Shack!

Or they could just come up with new molds that just HAPPEN to look exactly like the original ones!

What's your new horse you'd like to see beaten to death?

MaximusPrime · Post by **MaximusPrime** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 2:09 am

My horse? In the alternators line, why so many autobots and next to no decepticons? Also, lately, why do the companies now insist on haveing the title "Autobot" before the character's name (example: Energon's "Autobot Ironhide")?

Dead Man Wade · Post by **Dead Man Wade** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 6:55 am

Originally posted by MaximusPrime
Also, lately, why do the companies now insist on haveing the title "Autobot" before the character's name (example: Energon's "Autobot Ironhide")?

Loss of trademarks. Often, when they've lost a trademark, they'll use a different name (such as "Rodimus Major", "Shockblast", or "Meister"). In other instances, they'll use a prefix of some sort ("Autobot Jazz", "Autobot Tracks", and "Battle Ravage").

wreckie · Post by **wreckie** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:04 am

Originally posted by fort_max
Loss of trademarks. Often, when they've lost a trademark, they'll use a different name (such as "Rodimus Major", "Shockblast", or "Meister"). In other instances, they'll use a prefix of some sort ("Autobot Jazz", "Autobot Tracks", and "Battle Ravage").

And the rotting horse corpse rises from the grave once more - ready for another beating

Nevermore · Post by **Nevermore** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:06 am

Originally posted by MaximusPrime
My horse? In the alternators line, why so many autobots and next to no decepticons? Also, lately, why do the companies now insist on haveing the title "Autobot" before the character's name (example: Energon's "Autobot Ironhide")?

You mean "Energon Ironhide". And that was supposed to indicate the upgrade, like "Energon Starscream" or "Energon Hot Shot".

The non-upgraded versions were just "Ironhide", "Starscream" and "Hot Shot". Had nothing to do with trademarks.

Plus, the "Autobot" prefix has nothing to do with a trademark they "lost"... morseo that a term is deemed too generic to be used as a trademark these days, hence they add a prefix, such as "AUTOBOT Jazz", "BATTLE Ravage" or "CONSTRUCTICON Devastator". You can't trademark "Jazz", or at least you can't expect to be able to easily defend the name in court; but you can trademark "Autobot Jazz" and it's all yours for the next two years.

"Shockwave" they lost to Lanard, hence "Shockblast". Though Lanard have abandoned the trademark since, but too late for Hasbro, and they apparently decided to go with "Shockblast". "Bluestreak" is lost to a company named Gendron ("Toledo 'Blue Streak'" is their trademark - and yes, that can be deemed "confusingly similar"), hence "Silverstreak".
Currently, Hasbro are trying to reclaim "Bumblebee".

Cyberstrike nTo · Post by **Cyberstrike nTo** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 2:56 pm

The USA vs Japanesse names debate.

optimusskids · Post by **optimusskids** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:22 pm

Decides to go straight to Shire horse size dead horse

Alternator Broadside in scale for 1:72 Seekers to land on him
(eat our heart out Fort Max)
ducks for cover

Soundwave as a stereo system with Rumble and Frenzy as speakers

Darth Shrapnel · Post by **Darth Shrapnel** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:43 pm

Huffer became Cyclonus.

Cassettacon 27 · Post by **Cassettacon 27** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:47 pm

Great. Now I have to go out and get a new Horse Corpse.
Where's my crossbow?

Nevermore · Post by **Nevermore** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:47 pm

Originally posted by Darth Shrapnel
Huffer became Cyclonus.

The answer is obviously LIFE SPARK.

Mega Starscream · Post by **Mega Starscream** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:59 am

Originally posted by Nevermore
Currently, Hasbro are trying to reclaim "Bumblebee".

Who has it now?

DrSpengler · Post by **DrSpengler** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:08 am

Ratchet is the sexiest Transformer.

Mega Starscream · Post by **Mega Starscream** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:16 am

ok.....

DrSpengler · Post by **DrSpengler** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:18 am

I don't expect too many people to get the joke.

Mega Starscream · Post by **Mega Starscream** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:21 am

Originally posted by DrSpengler
I don't expect too many people to get the joke.

good. i dont feel quite as stupid now:D

Nevermore · Post by **Nevermore** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:16 am

Originally posted by Mega Starscream
Who has it now?

No-one, probably. Otherwise they couldn't reclaim it.

Mega Starscream · Post by **Mega Starscream** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:09 pm

Originally posted by Nevermore
No-one, probably. Otherwise they couldn't reclaim it.

ah, ok. i misunderstood what you said

Sixswitch · Post by **Sixswitch** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:20 pm

Originally posted by Mega Starscream
good. i dont feel quite as stupid now:D

No he's not, Prowl is!

-Ss, Who (unfortunately) gets the joke.

Post by **Denyer** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:10 pm

Originally posted by Nevermore
We had 1.000.000.000.000.000 discussions about whether Rumble and/or Frenzy

I'm sure there was more than one...

Cyberstrike nTo · Post by **Cyberstrike nTo** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:18 am

Originally posted by DrSpengler
I don't expect too many people to get the joke.

I got the joke, too bad I don't know what to with it.