Alternators Nemesis Prime update!

Nevermore · Post by **Nevermore** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:08 am

http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.ph ... opic=13886

ITEM(S) NOT YET SHIPPED
Item number: 81456
Item name: TRANSFORMERS ALTERNATORS Dodge Ram SRT-10 NEMESIS PRIME Figure
Quantity: 1
Estimated ship date: 11/1/2006

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Halfshell · Post by **Halfshell** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:38 am

We apologize for any inconvenience. If you have any questions regarding your order or would like to change your order...

Does that apply to people who've got it and think it's rubbish?

Post by **Denyer** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:28 am

You can't be having that much trouble finding someone to take it off your hands...

Halfshell · Post by **Halfshell** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:33 am

Haven't been actively trying, to be honest. Finally managed to get it back into truck mode to a decent degree and there it's stayed... it's a fair enough vehicle display piece (even if I've no clue how to get the engine back in and close the bonnet), but sodding awful as a toy/robot/anything else...

The question was more a curiosity point of view thing... as to exactly what was covered by them apologising for the inconvenience... it'd be nice to have Hasbro say sorry for something being naff... admission, at the very least...

ColdBain · Post by **ColdBain** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:58 am

Does anyone else here think that the Alternators Optimus Prime mould would have been bettered suited to another character, say, Ironhide? I got my just last week, and when I managed to turn him into a robot, I looked at him for the longest while, thinking that he really had the wrong head. I don't know what it is exactly, but the robot mode reminds me a lot of the G1 Ironhide, the character in particular, I'm not sure visually...

Cyclone_X · Post by **Cyclone_X** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:42 am

Originally posted by ColdBain
Does anyone else here think that the Alternators Optimus Prime mould would have been bettered suited to another character, ...

it would have been better if the HasTak designers did not look over the unused space in his lower legs, he could easyly have longer upperlegs because of that, now he looks like he has no upper legs at all

Nevermore · Post by **Nevermore** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:45 am

Originally posted by ColdBain
Does anyone else here think that the Alternators Optimus Prime mould would have been bettered suited to another character, say, Ironhide?

I'm pretty sure Hasbro thought so. But unfortunately Takara insisted on making him Optimus Prime, because they thought they couldn't sell a Dodge Ram in Japan otherwise.

ColdBain · Post by **ColdBain** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:21 pm

Well I guess that makes sense. I gotta say, as a vehicle, it's quite different from any of the other Alternators that I have, in size it's a lot bigger, it's kinda exciting to see what licenses they acquire for the future (or what car types).

numbat · Post by **numbat** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:46 pm

I finally managed to pick up an alternators Prime yesterday, and I'm actually really chuuffed with it - just to be controversial.

He certainly comes close to being my fave Prime design (RM still lucks out I think). But, then, I'm also a big fan of pick-ups, so I'm probably more biased than usual.

The only thing that knocks him down slightly in my opinion is the floppy bits that just sit randomly above his shoulders - they'd look a lot better if they could slide in line with the other shoulder pillars.

I can forgive the legs easily.

(On a side note - does anyone else have extreme difficulty convincing the legs to extend, and then slide back? I'm terrified of breaking mine everytime I transform him.)

As to Nemesis, I'm in a quandry. I love this mold, but I just hate red windows. He would look a lot more realistic with plain clear ones.

ravimus prime · Post by **ravimus prime** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:03 pm

Originally posted by numbat
(On a side note - does anyone else have extreme difficulty convincing the legs to extend, and then slide back? I'm terrified of breaking mine everytime I transform him.)

Yeah, mine was like that, but it loosens over time. I have Optimus and I really don't like him. I only managed to get the engine block back in and close the bonnet once. His robot mode is rubbish.

RID Scourge · Post by **RID Scourge** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:41 pm

I really wouldn't recommend the mold to anyone, who isn't a fan of either character. I found the robot mode to be better than pictures indicated, but not by much. I like pickup trucks, and Rams are some of the biggest, meanest-looking sonofaguns on the road, so the car mode is awesome. Transformation is a real booznatch, but after a few times, it loosens/becomes ingrained in your memory, so it's not as bad.

Ford DeceptiFocus · Post by **Ford DeceptiFocus** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:35 am

Same thing happened to me--ordered in July and won't be coming untill November. I called and said, "nearly 6 months for a toy that was confirmed--isn't that asking a bit much out of customer?" And the lady--VERY SNOTTILY says, "Do you want it or don't you?" I get better customer services from my drug dealer. LOL (JUST A JOKE)

God Jinrai · Post by **God Jinrai** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:41 am

... Takara insisted on making him Ginrai. NOT OPTIMUS PRIME.

hasblow could just as easily have repainted the hands, and done up a new head-sculpt JUST LIKE THEY DID ON DEADEND and done an ironhide deal, and had NO trouble.

Post by **Clay** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:39 am

Originally posted by God Jinrai
... Takara insisted on making him Ginrai. NOT OPTIMUS PRIME.

You're splitting hairs. Besides, the orignal plan was for it to be Binaltech Convoy*, not Ginrai. Then it was planned as Ginrai, then cancelled, then Kiss Convoy.

hasblow could just as easily have repainted the hands, and done up a new head-sculpt JUST LIKE THEY DID ON DEADEND and done an ironhide deal, and had NO trouble.

Huh? The Takara and Hasbro Dead Ends have the same head.

(*BT18 apparently, according to the story writer whose name I've currently forgotten, but that numbering includes the also cancelled BT16 Black Widow).

Knightdramon · Post by **Knightdramon** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:45 am

Originally posted by Clay
You're splitting hairs. Besides, the orignal plan was for it to be Binaltech Convoy*, not Ginrai. Then it was planned as Ginrai, then cancelled, then Kiss Convoy.

Huh? The Takara and Hasbro Dead Ends have the same head.

(*BT18 apparently, according to the story writer whose name I've currently forgotten, but that numbering includes the also cancelled BT16 Black Widow).

It's not really certain whether or not he was planned as Ginrai or Convoy.

BT 17 was Ginrai and BT 18 Hotrod, the final binaltech. It's mentionned in bwtf, under Skid's review.

Halfshell · Post by **Halfshell** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:58 am

Originally posted by Clay
Huh? The Takara and Hasbro Dead Ends have the same head.

Don't all the Alt and BT counterparts have the same head? With the exception of Windcharger/Overdrive, with that only being a minor difference...

Nevermore · Post by **Nevermore** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:27 am

Originally posted by Brendocon
Don't all the Alt and BT counterparts have the same head? With the exception of Windcharger/Overdrive, with that only being a minor difference...

Depends on whether you count Mirage and Rodimus as "counterparts".

EDIT: If you count Windcharger/Overdrive, you also have to count Wheeljack.
http://www.cosmicrust.com/toys/binaltec ... Alt08.html

Halfshell · Post by **Halfshell** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:38 am

Well, Windy and Overcharge were effectively the equivalents of each other... same design released at about the same time (or at least announced/leaked at about the same time)... head was tweaked... but it's no more a dramatic difference than the Alt and BTA versions of Sunstreaker.

Rodimus and Mirage are a lot more distinct. Or, to put it another way, how many people bought both Windcharger and Overdrive?

Blitzwing's Ghost · Post by **Blitzwing's Ghost** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:25 am

If anyone's interested & happens to live in the UK, Alternators Prime is available from Argos stores for £19.99. I'm going to be awkward aswelll cause i like the Dodge/prime mould, it could have been made better by having the character as Ironhide or even Trailbreaker. Quite surprised there hasn't been anyone mention a Magnus re-paint yet

Also for nemesis prime, there are loads appearing on Ebay for about £15-£20 each, but then the shipping is about the same cause i've just paid for one from Hong Kong, as long as it arrives i'm happy.

Nevermore · Post by **Nevermore** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:26 am

Originally posted by Brendocon
Or, to put it another way, how many people bought both Windcharger and Overdrive?

http://www.cosmicrust.com/toys/binaltech/overdrive.php
http://www.bwtf.com/binaltech/overdrive/review.shtml
http://www.bwtf.com/alternators/windcharger/
http://www.fluffypotato.com/transformer ... e/Over.htm