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Old 2017-11-21, 11:53 PM   #5881
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Dreadwind being able to be combiner limbs
There's also an instruction leaflet scan around that shows the Darkwing combination, so really stoked for these two...

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Old 2017-11-22, 04:28 PM   #5882
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There's also an instruction leaflet scan around that shows the Darkwing combination, so really stoked for these two.
Yeah! I forgot to mention that function! I've seen it from some Comic Con coverage a while back, see below for the combined mode.

I was able to get into all four of the deluxes last night, albeit for a short time. Wasn't able to try them as limbs, but likely will after the holiday. Some quick first impressions:

Dreadwind: A heavy retool of Air Raid (as I understand it, don't own him) is mostly left unchanged, except for some cool ways the wings transform from what I can tell. The wings sit on his calves, and shift forward to lock in place. Otherwise, he seems pretty standard for a CW-ish figure: solidly built, decent range of motion everywhere, joints that are perfect tightness. The deco is fantastic as well. Looking forward to pairing him up, whether with Darkwing or as a limb to CW Cyclonus or the soon-to-be-released Starscream on occasion.

Jazz: Played with him the least. He's fairly chunky on the back, but otherwise he's good. Range of motion is good, all the joints are properly tight, and he's balanced. The only quibbles I might have are the roof parts are all clear plastic that's painted over - seems likely to ship/scratch over time, and his paint on his face is a touch sloppy. If you can live with his design being slightly not-Jazz (akin to CW Prowl being not-Prowl), he's pretty fun. Transformation is a breeze, and it borrows heavily from other CW-style cars. Oddly, his wrists have twist-joints built in, but the cars doors are molded right underneath making the joint useless. Seems ripe for a retool.

Swoop: My favorite of the wave. His robot mode is excellently balanced and all the limbs have great range of motion. Solidly built, and the joints are good. The wings get in the way a little on a shelf full of TF's, but they fold down OK and they don't make him back-heavy. The paint apps are clean, and he's got the blue torso, which is closer to his G1 animated appearance. I guess there may be a red-torso version at some point or not? Transformation is easy, though he ends up like a box with wings - not that it's a bad thing. The dino head doesn't twist or anything, but the mouth opens and the head can rotate for either flying or his traditional 'standing ptero' mode. Sadly, I haven't found that you can have him tilted a bit like he's taking off. It's either flight mode or standing mode. All-in-all though, very pleased with him.

Slug: Slug... isn't bad. He's no Swoop, mind you. The tricera-mode is chunky, as to be expected, and there's a tiny bit of range in the dino legs. The head doesn't move at all, but his mouth opens. I guess he does what a triceratops is supposed to do. Transformation is fairly simple, with 90% of it taking place in the legs/feet/tail, though correctly shifting a couple bits takes some practice. Robot mode is OK, though I feel his knee design makes him a bit unnatural. He stands well enough due to his large feet, but he looks awkward in some 'bent-knee' poses. Maybe I just need to fiddle with him more to get the hang of it? He has decent range in his limbs - his arms in particular are quite open for movement. His head, due to it being part of the dino head, doesn't move, or at least it would be difficult to do so. Overall, Slug isn't total crap, but he's no award winner. I think he'll match nicely with the rest of the Dinobots in the long run, but as of now he might be the one I would fiddle with the least.
 
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Old 2017-11-22, 08:18 PM   #5883
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According to da internets, these were hitting Target stores in the US... so I used Brickseek & the DCPI to find them around me. Took a little finagling, as they had recently stocked the pegs with a bunch of TR deluxes (Quake, Krok, etc.) so the worker nicely pulled them from the back for me.
Thanks for the info and did the same thing today. That's a lot of work...........

Anyway, got Beachcomber and Swoop. The store I went to said they have 16 deluxe on hand and he said all 16 of them are the same, which is Swoop. I also want Slag and Dreadwind which I highly doubt I want to do this again in another store. So probably I will wait.......
 
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Old 2017-11-22, 08:58 PM   #5884
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Thanks for the info and did the same thing today. That's a lot of work...........

Anyway, got Beachcomber and Swoop. The store I went to said they have 16 deluxe on hand and he said all 16 of them are the same, which is Swoop. I also want Slag and Dreadwind which I highly doubt I want to do this again in another store. So probably I will wait.......
They should be packed 2 of each in a case of 8. I know the guy I talked to said Target's policy is to only pull 1 item out of the back for customers, so he did me a pretty big favor even though I didn't ask or press for him to do so. I'm guessing the person you talked to didn't want to cross a line on policy.

Either way, it is quite awkward to have someone pull something out of the back. I always feel sheepish asking.
 


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Old 2017-11-22, 10:38 PM   #5885
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If stores want to forfeit sales that's up to them, I suppose. But with distribution being so shit in Europe the idea of driving around looking for stuff, that still seems to be entrenched elsewhere (or waiting for things to hit retail stores, really) always feels like a non-starter. Either stuff's worth a little bit of an online premium or gets skipped.

That combined jet hits all of the right nostalgia spots personally, had a KO set as a kid that was a random foreign holiday find and of course the Marvel UK comic bigged them up with the letters pages and b&w strips.

Will definitely get Slag as well when they hit. With Swoop getting blue here maybe there'll be a Hasbro box set with toy deco and sellers will part them out -- can't see Takara doing a red one. Does look good in dino mode as is though. Grimlock looks so terribly compromised and there's an upscaled Warbotron KO that does better duty, so eh on the concept of actually wanting a full set.
 
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