WHRE MY COMIX? RAR! [Planetary, Miracleman, etc]

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WHRE MY COMIX? RAR! [Planetary, Miracleman, etc]

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Okay, comics-industry-in-general, what the Hell's happened to: -

Planetary #27 - seriously, what exactly is taking so long?

Miracleman - Gaiman's got his fighting fund, and McFarlane seems to have basically admitted he was winging it. So that just leaves Anglo, most likely, and the man's a whore. Now, Neil, give him all that Marvel booty you made and get me Miracleman #25 before you die of wearing sunglasses inside.

All the Fleetway stuff DC were promising - I know Albion was, on the balance, pretty poor, but if Wildstorm didn't commission things solely because they were written by someone related to Alan Moore, it wouldn't have happened. Just do the Spider, properly. Or give the character rights to someone who will. You bastards.

Something about Union Jack: just about Union Jack, please, not where he's just the arbitrary lead of a series which Marvel have stuffed any second-stringers hanging around into (no-one is interested in Sabra, deal with it). And preferably something that's not about terrorism, that sucked.

Thus ends the shouting/libel/unreasonable slurs.
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I'm totally with you on the first two. Cassady has had the script for a while now and to be honest the world needed a new issue of Planetary far more than Astonishing X-Men.

I'd so love to get some new Miracleman action, hell I'd be all over some affordable trades of the first three books. Dammit come on!!!

I think DC couldn't care less about the rest of the stuff that isn't revolving around the continuity porn their superhero line had descended into.

Union Jack. I still can't bring myself to get the Ben Raab/Cassady trade soley based on the fact that I have read Ben Raab Excalibur and felt like I'd been teabagged. One of the coolest looking costumes every created though.

The madman in me still wants to see Holy Terror! Batman. Come on Frank we need the madness, sod this film making malarkey!

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Union Jack. I still can't bring myself to get the Ben Raab/Cassady trade soley based on the fact that I have read Ben Raab Excalibur and felt like I'd been teabagged. One of the coolest looking costumes every created though.
I had the same thing - despised, absolutely despised Raab Excalibur (or, to give its' proper title, X-Men - UK Roadtrip)... I don't know what the Hell happens, but his little Union Jack series is actually pretty good. The atmosphere/catch-up first issue is a little bit better than the other two, but it's surprisingly reverent - there's even the proper Romany Wisdom used, which is amazing considering what Raab did to Pete himself. If you can find it for under a fiver, it's really worth a gamble [pluggage]http://counter-x.net/comics/others/uj.html[/pluggage] - I personally think it's every bit as good as his Pendragon appearances :)
The madman in me still wants to see Holy Terror! Batman. Come on Frank we need the madness, sod this film making malarkey!
It can't possibly be any worse than DK2, at any rate...

With any luck, DC's deal with the Fleetway characters will lapse soon, and someone else can get them. As long as Fleetway don't try and use them fro 2000AD again...
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I think the problem with the old Fleetway material is that it's going to be a tough sell to other US publishers to give it a gamble. Marvel won't go near it and that really only leaves Dark Horse or IDW to give it a punt. Image would be the ideal home for them and would give them a decent chance to get an audience but the way the Image deal works means some creative team/small studio would have to get the rights and get the money on the backend. I've just scared myself with the thought of Top Cow doing just that.

Yeeesh!

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Cliffjumper wrote:[pluggage]http://counter-x.net/comics/others/uj.html[/pluggage] - I personally think it's every bit as good as his Pendragon appearances :)
You have persuaded me. I shall track down the book and give it a go. I loved Union Jack in Pendragon (well the 1st volume anyway) the working class stiff as a superhero was seldom done as well as here.

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Well, Astonishing X-Men has ended, but I'm not sure it's entirely Cassaday's fault as I heard Ellis keeps re-writing the last issue.

In case you havent' heard, there's a new series called Captain Britain and MI13, written by Paul Cornell, in which basically every British super-hero can appear, but the core cast is Brian, Wisdom, John the Skrull, Spitfire, Black Knight and new character called Faiza Hussain (a doctor and British super-hero fangirl). Union Jack is supposed to appear in the second issue, which comes out today.

I really liked first issue, but I also liked Cornell's earlier Wisdom mini, so... :)
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Cornell? Aww, shit. Though to be fair anyone other than Ellis can't write Wisdom. And can't Marvel just leave Brian alone?
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In his defence the first issue is pretty decent. My biggest gripe is that Leonard Kirk doesn't quite get how to draw Captain Britain. The hair is too flat and the figure doensn't convey anywhere near the power that Alan Davis does.

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Ozz wrote:In case you havent' heard, there's a new series called Captain Britain and MI13, written by Paul Cornell, in which basically every British super-hero can appear, but the core cast is Brian, Wisdom, John the Skrull, Spitfire, Black Knight and new character called Faiza Hussain (a doctor and British super-hero fangirl). Union Jack is supposed to appear in the second issue, which comes out today.
No, I hadn't heard, but it's getting beyond difficult to obtain ANY comics recently from my emporium of choice (who have blamed the creation of a monopoly in the UK and are expecting to either struggle along for a bit or be pushed out of business).

Ohh, I've got those Union Jack comics somewhere up in the loft... in one of those twenty-odd boxes... And I have Pendragon up there, too.
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http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=6050

"John Cassaday’s started drawing PLANETARY #27."
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Started as in "just began and it might be another couple of years?" :(

Anyone else think of the book as complete, with just a few loose threads? I mean, there are plently of those that won't be tied up, and I'm kinda bored of waiting to see which ones Ellis chooses to... erm, knot.

But I'll buy it, because I'm weak like that. Like the way I kept planning to not buy The Ultimates when it ran late. And I always failed :(
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Cliffjumper wrote:Anyone else think of the book as complete, with just a few loose threads?
No, I think of it as "finish the final issue so that I can get my mits on the final trade and actually catch up dammit."

Am only as far as #23. This is torture! :(
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Trades are by far the most sensible, convenient way to read comics. Unless the comic involves either Bryan Hitch or John Cassaday. Then you've got to grab stuff when you can.
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I want my last bastard hardcover of Planetary dammit!!!!

I'm also curious as to the payoff regarding Ambrose Chase.

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Wow. It'd really better not suck after all this.
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I want this to be good.

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Cliffjumper wrote:
So that just leaves Anglo, most likely, and the man's a whore.
I herd on Fanboy Radio’s interview with Alan Moore that Eclipse had bought the rights to Miracle man on the basis that the rights to Miracle man had not been Mick Angelos. Alan said that this was apparently a pack of lies and the right had always been Mick’s. People are just annoyed because it seems that he’s some Johnny-come-lately who is claiming ownership.

He’s a 93 year old man with a wife and they could really use some support.
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rattrap23 wrote:People are just annoyed because it seems that he’s some Johnny-come-lately who is claiming ownership.
Er, what people? ****ing morons? No-one who knows anything, anything at all about the situation debates that Anglo/Gower Street created Marvelman. It's whether he a) did it as work for hire and thus never owned the rights to the character; b) permanently transferred the rights that he may or may not have had to Dez Skinn/Quality or c) only let Skinn use the character, with rights returning to Anglo after a certain period.

This, you see, is the Big Problem. Nobody actually knows with any degree of certainty who owns the rights - it's not a case of "Yeh, let's support Mick Anglo for ripping off Captain Marvel" or "Boy, that McFarlane guy's a **** for keeping those rights". Nobody knows - it's possible the rights never left L. Miller until they folded and their assets were bought by Alan Class, rendering anything that happened with Anglo/Skinn/Moore/Eclipse/Gaiman/McFarlane pointless.
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Right.

I own the rights to MiracleMan.

I've just decided.

Problem solved.

And, for the record, I won't reprint it. Not for any particular reason, but because I'm a ****.

Job done. Now everybody knows where they stand.
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