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Old 2003-01-24, 05:32 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Looks like Pat couldn't afford those drawing lessons...

http://previews.diamondcomics.com/pr...gen1_vol2.html

It's not like he's got enough of our ****ing money or anything. Woo, Overdrive.
 

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Old 2003-01-24, 05:50 PM   #2
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what the hell is wrong with Optimus' neck!?
 
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Old 2003-01-24, 05:59 PM   #3
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...especially when he was kicking Spike's ass. ;)
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I think they're cool.

Of course, my opinion means s*it to you people...

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Old 2003-01-24, 06:04 PM   #4
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Amusing things from those covers:

Prime's neck [sequel to the Arcee intro?]
Bumblebee's giant feet
Blaster stikcing his gun in the base of Prime's spine
The Insecticons being knee-height on Megatron
Megatron's tiny deformed cannon ["It was shrinkage, I tell you!"]
The hilarious "perspective" drawing of Bruticus, who must be bending backwards at about 45 degrees in that picture...
The chrome detailing on Optimus [again he has extreme suntan lines on his boobs]

Someone tell me who the orange dude is. Becuase I've got a wonderful feeling it's Spike in a ****ing exo-suit.
 
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Old 2003-01-24, 06:12 PM   #5
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Amusing things from those covers:

Prime's neck [sequel to the Arcee intro?]
What's wrong with it?

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Bumblebee's giant feet
Well, they DO form his vehicle front...

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Blaster stikcing his gun in the base of Prime's spine
And the reason he couldn't be pointing it beside him is...?

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The Insecticons being knee-height on Megatron
Who says they're not allowed to be that size? They do turn into insects, ya know.

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Megatron's tiny deformed cannon ["It was shrinkage, I tell you!"]
It's not the size, but how you use it.

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The hilarious "perspective" drawing of Bruticus, who must be bending backwards at about 45 degrees in that picture...
I don't see anything wrong with it.

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The chrome detailing on Optimus [again he has extreme suntan lines on his boobs]
So? I don't have a problem with this. *

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Someone tell me who the orange dude is. Becuase I've got a wonderful feeling it's Spike in a ****ing exo-suit.
Beats me, but heaven forbid us if it should be...WHEELIE!
 
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Old 2003-01-24, 06:23 PM   #6
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The orange guy is the powerdasher car... i have no clue why it would be there, just like the omnibot in the pic. Also if you look, Grimlock is on the decepticon's side.
 
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Old 2003-01-24, 06:25 PM   #7
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What's wrong with it?
It's bloody huge, not to mention ludicrously exposed in a battle situation...


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Well, they DO form his vehicle front...
So they're the same size as the rest of his body, which forms the other 2 thirds? Wow, that makes about as much sense as Blair's line on the war in Iraq...

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And the reason he couldn't be pointing it beside him is...?
Good point, but it exposes another piece of dodgy art work - Blaster's standing considerably closer to us than Red Alert, and yet Red Alert's gun is closer than Blaster's.

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Who says they're not allowed to be that size? They do turn into insects, ya know.
And Blaster turns into a tapedeck, yet he's the same size as Prime. YPB?

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It's not the size, but how you use it.
10 says it isn't draw consistently to be that size in the mini-series.

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I don't see anything wrong with it.
Then you have as much problem with perspective as Lee does. The 'shot' is level with Megatron, meaning that unless he was leaning back, we wouldn't be able to see all of Bruticus as we aren't 'looking' up.


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So? I don't have a problem with this. *

*= Anyone who says anything about this will be hurt
The fact that it looks ugly is enough of a problem for most people. Oh no, should I be scared? Get out more.
 
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Old 2003-01-24, 06:25 PM   #8
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Overdrive is cool. At least he's getting some recognition... Too bad these covers just don't do it for me.
 
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Old 2003-01-24, 06:48 PM   #9
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It's bloody huge, not to mention ludicrously exposed in a battle situation...
So? Maybe it's because of the way that he decided to draw it for the cover.

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So they're the same size as the rest of his body, which forms the other 2 thirds? Wow, that makes about as much sense as Blair's line on the war in Iraq...
See Issue 3's Autobot cover? Same thing.

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Good point, but it exposes another piece of dodgy art work - Blaster's standing considerably closer to us than Red Alert, and yet Red Alert's gun is closer than Blaster's.
OK. I can't explain that.

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And Blaster turns into a tapedeck, yet he's the same size as Prime. YPB?
My point being is that apparently Pat Lee has what is known as "creative control", which means he can draw them however the hell he wants...apparently...


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10 says it isn't draw consistently to be that size in the mini-series.
Maybe it's just for the cover, but who the hell cares?

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Then you have as much problem with perspective as Lee does. The 'shot' is level with Megatron, meaning that unless he was leaning back, we wouldn't be able to see all of Bruticus as we aren't 'looking' up.
And how do you know he ain't standing on a higher ledge? I mean, Soundwave and a bunch of others are in the way...

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The fact that it looks ugly is enough of a problem for most people.
Well, it ain't a problem with me.
 
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Old 2003-01-24, 07:06 PM   #10
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Look at Blasters face!
 
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Old 2003-01-25, 12:03 AM   #11
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I've never read the Dreamwave run, but I've seen the covers. I'm sure someone here once said Pat Lee draws all his transformers as if they're posing, and that there's very little feeling of action or movement. I can agree with that statement looking at these two pictures.

Also, if the idea behind stopping crap being foisted upon us is not to buy it, is anyone here not going to buy the Dreamwave second series on this principal? as I understand the first wasn't looked upon too favourably by many fans.

The only reason I didn't buy the Dreamwave run is because:

- No money
- No shops around here that would sell them (But I could have ordered on-line, so it's a poor excuse).
- Despite the art looking brilliant, I guessed they would never be as good as my imagination.

The third point held true, but it could not be said of the 'War Within' issues, so I lost out dearly there.

The fan in me would want to buy the first or second issue to hope it gets better, and perhaps then I would be a little too embroiled and just carry on.
 
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Old 2003-01-25, 12:17 AM   #12
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Despite all I've said, as long as it isn't too inconvenient for Josh, I'm going to give the first 2 issues or so a try, as it won't really be a lot of money, and as I'm generally phasing out of buying the toys [if I see something nice at a nice price I'll go for it, but I don't tend to hunt figures down like I did a year or so ago] I'm willing to give it a go - partly because I don't want to get caught out if it is any good, and secondly because I'd like to assess it for myself. Part of me is hoping they've learnt from their mistakes in the first series, but to be honest there are enough sheep buying 12 copies of each issue and posting at the DW art telling Pat how they wank over his drawings to convince DW they didn't actually make any mistakes.

Oh, and Windy, if you want to satisfy curiosity: - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tfdwcomics
 
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Old 2003-01-25, 02:45 AM   #13
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Also if you look, Grimlock is on the decepticon's side.
I love the little Insecticons! Just felt the need to share that... but why is Grimlock with Megs' group anyway?
 
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Old 2003-01-25, 03:07 AM   #14
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Bleuagh! That pic is awful and may be the worse picture yet. I have seen better drawings from grade schoolers, that is just retarded the way Grimlock is with the Cons as well.
 
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Old 2003-01-25, 03:20 AM   #15
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why is Grimlock with Megs' group anyway?
Well, he never joined back with the Autobots...and he never really left the 'cons, either...
 
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Old 2003-01-25, 03:55 AM   #16
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is anyone here not going to buy the Dreamwave second series on this principal?
Yes.

Scans and satisfaction first, or nowt.
 
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Old 2003-01-25, 04:06 AM   #17
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Ooooh, why can't I have morals? Mind, I like to be able to slag things off with authority...

Oh ****... It's 4am, what the **** am I doing up? Oh well...
 
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Old 2003-01-25, 04:12 AM   #18
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is anyone here not going to buy the Dreamwave second series on this principal?
In the past week, I wasted forty bucks to get the TPB, Armada #1 and Armada #2, because I didn't have G1 #2, G1 #3 or the Armada issues.

In all, I've spent about $90 bucks on the DW comics thus far, and will have spent another $40 or so by the time my birthday rolls around...where it will start again...

So, no, I won't.
 
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Old 2003-01-25, 10:08 AM   #19
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At least their storyline is consistant Grimbo still being a 'Con and all though those drawings are horrible proportioned. It may be intentional or how it was drawn but why the hell is Blaster so much bigger then Soundwave?
 
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Old 2003-01-25, 02:10 PM   #20
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Because the f**king eejits are designing off the toys...
 
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