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Old 2003-10-11, 09:29 AM   #1
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I'm beginning to rewatch all transformers G1 episodes, just watched the very first episode.

Some questions though:

- Who are those 3 robots that can transform into a photocamera, never seen them before !

- Did the ship actually download information from planet earth to let the transformers/decepticons transform in carmobiles. Because their names were already autobots. And the two decepticons that followed bumblebee on cybertron were 2 flying triangles.
 
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Old 2003-10-11, 09:54 AM   #2
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-All three are known as Reflector. They also have separate names: Spectro, Spyglass and Veiwfinder, if I recall correctly.

-Don't know exactly what you say. But, Autobots and Decepticons on Cybertron had they're Cybertronian modes (triangle jets, hover cars, street lamps ). When they were stranded on Earth, Teletraan 1 (Autobots' ship's computer) gave them Earth modes so they could disguise themselves as what Teletraan believed to be dominating life form on Earth.
 

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Old 2003-10-11, 09:59 AM   #3
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Thx for the information, I'm know watching episode 2. And it seems those 3 robots are not alone I saw like 7 of them at the same time. I asked a friend of mine who is a transformer-guru and he told me these 3 make appear only in the first six episodes because their popularity wasn't that high. Can you explain why I saw 7 of these guys. I also heared that there were some errors in the G1 series like two starscreams at the same time on the screen. Is this the same error ?

Sorry for my not so good english !!
 
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Old 2003-10-11, 11:07 AM   #4
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Well the 2 Starscreams or the 7 reflectors is just the beginning

there are tons of errors, that you didn't see as a child.

But don't let them or the sometimes childish/stupid stories bother you

The episodes are often still very good
 



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Old 2003-10-11, 11:54 AM   #5
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It isn't bothering me I just love the series !!
Reflectors are boring though !!
 
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Old 2003-10-11, 12:14 PM   #6
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In More Than Meets The Eye you'll see several Starscreams, Rumbles, or Reflectors more than once. People tend to say:

'It's not an error, it was made on a purpose so Decepticons don't look outnumbered when compared to Autobots. Who said there weren't many Decepticons who had the same colour and the same jet mode?'

I say it is an error, but whatever flows your boat.
 
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Old 2003-10-11, 01:22 PM   #7
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Well, at least the orange seeker has been retroactively declared "official", as e-Hobby has released him as "Sunstorm" in Japan.
 

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Old 2003-10-11, 10:48 PM   #8
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The annoying thing about Cartoon reflector was the fact they were just clones of one robot. If you have a look on the net for pictures of the actual reflector toy, you'll find the three robots that comprise him (Spetcro, Viewfind and Spyglass), all look physically different. Why did they not incorporate this into the cartoon?

They must have had scematics of the toys to work from, so it doesn't make sense to me.
 



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Old 2003-10-11, 11:24 PM   #9
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After those 3 eps it quickly turns into ****, sadly.
 
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Old 2003-10-12, 06:05 AM   #10
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gen 1 ****s over beast wars and the other **** they came up with afterwards.
 

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Old 2003-10-12, 08:27 AM   #11
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gen 1 ****s over beast wars and the other **** they came up with afterwards.
Wow, tell us why.
 
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Old 2003-10-12, 10:44 AM   #12
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Beast Wars CGI show vs. G1 kids' cartoon = Great storytelling & decent CGI animation vs. few average stories among tons of cr@ppy idiot plots & mostly lame animation with lots of errors.

Beast Machines CGI show vs. G1 kids' cartoon: See above.

G1 would beat Armada storywise if it wasn't for the last quarter (the final 13 or so episodes in a row) of the armada cartoon which simply rock. Animation-wise, Armada as a whole is better than G1 as a whole.

So, I don't see your point either.
 

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Old 2003-10-12, 10:59 AM   #13
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gen 1 ****s over beast wars and the other **** they came up with afterwards.
Troll!!!

I don't think its worth even bothering to put evidence in front of you to show your short sighted as you clearly arn't a tf fan as such, mearly a "nostalgia fan"

Do the world a favour and take a long walk off a short pier.
 
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Old 2003-10-12, 11:19 AM   #14
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Stop fighting over which series is better, we all have our favorites, and there not gonna change because someone says they suck
 



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Old 2003-10-12, 11:50 AM   #15
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Stop fighting over which series is better, we all have our favorites, and there not gonna change because someone says they suck
I accept people liking one over the other, I don't like people making comments with zero proof to back them up
 
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Old 2003-10-12, 12:32 PM   #16
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Exactly. Had he said 'G1' cartoon is his favourite, it would be OK. But he started a discussion, and I for example would like to hear what are his reasons to believe BW for example is ****. This is a discussion board after all.
 
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Old 2003-10-12, 05:17 PM   #17
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I don't think Transformers have that great stories (never seen armade though), but it's the nostalgic feeling that keeps me watching the show. I don't know If I'm going to watch Beastwars ever because I do not like the "Reboot" graphics and it doesn't give me the nostalgic feeling.
 
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Old 2003-10-12, 05:43 PM   #18
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gen 1 ****s over beast wars and the other **** they came up with afterwards.


I'll bet you couldn't even list what came afterwards without a search engine.
 
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Old 2003-10-12, 06:51 PM   #19
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OK, let's stop this bitchfighting !!!

Here is a question from a TF noob I was looking for Transformers DVD's on ebay and I found this.

99. Scramble City
100. The Zone

These episodes are not in the original epilogue. Are these unaired episodes if so are there more unaired episodes out there.
 
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Old 2003-10-12, 07:25 PM   #20
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99. Scramble City
100. The Zone

Are these unaired episodes if so are there more unaired episodes out there.
I think these are Japanese episodes. The Japanese series had its own storyline and continuity e.g. they disregarded the events that occurred in Transformers: The Movie.

Scramble city features the Protectobots and Stunticons, and I think Metroplex also appears. I'm not sure if it was ever dubbed into English, the version I have is all in Japanese.

Some Japanese Transformer shows have been translated, and you can purchase the Transformers: Takara series on Video and DVD from Play.com
 
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