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Old 2008-11-28, 05:43 PM   #601
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Old 2008-11-28, 07:43 PM   #602
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I don't think the hand has been replaced on Bumblebee, just the weapon itself. Either way, it looks sharp.
 

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Old 2008-11-28, 11:33 PM   #603
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more alt modes? is it beating RiD megs/galvy yet?

*head esploderates*

 
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Old 2008-11-28, 11:53 PM   #604
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Fanmodes actually, considering no one knows what the hell it's supposed to look like.

 
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Old 2008-11-29, 02:43 PM   #605
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How many Bumblebee's are they planning to launch man? I hope this is the last one. By the way Borg I don't think Soundwave can ever beat Rid Megs/Galvs in a contest of chanching into most modes I mean Megs had dragon wings but could turn into a freaking big flying hand! They are not able to do that again I think. The toy itself has already covinced me to buy one when it hits the stores because I love a good Multichanger. (That's the major reason for me of loving my Rid Megs mold I guess)
 
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Old 2008-11-29, 03:38 PM   #606
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How many Bumblebee's are they planning to launch man? I hope this is the last one.
The Answer is 42.

All jokes aside, There is never enough Bumblebees. We had 8 or so in the main line last year (And 4 in Animated's Main line). This is a whole different line, and it makes up for the lack of BB post-G1 to Classics.
 
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Old 2008-11-29, 05:06 PM   #607
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The Answer is 42.

All jokes aside, There is never enough Bumblebees. We had 8 or so in the main line last year (And 4 in Animated's Main line). This is a whole different line, and it makes up for the lack of BB post-G1 to Classics.
I did only mean the movie toys in fact but forgot to tell that part of the story... According to me there are more than enough Bumblebees if you can get eight "different" versions of them in two years...
 
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Old 2008-11-29, 11:13 PM   #608
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The movie 1 line had:

Legends Bumblebee in original deco, metallic and clear versions (Japanese campaign exclusives only), Cliffjumper redeco and "damage" deco (Allspark Battles two-pack wit Scorponok).

Deluxe Classic Camaro Bumblebee in original deco, Japanese version (with clear blue windows) and metallic version (Japanese store exclusive only).

Deluxe Concept Camaro Bumblebee in original deco, battle damage deco ("Evolution of a Hero" two-pack), Cliffjumper redeco, "Allspark Power" version with blue paint apps (Target exclusive), Screen Battles version with gray parts, Stealth Bumblebee in black with "battle mask" head and Premium version with "battle mask" head, gray parts and extra paint apps.

Ultimate Bumblebee.

Fast Action Battlers Bumblebee and the "Rally Rocket Bumblebee" redeco.

Robot Replicas Bumblebee.

The legless Bumblebee figure from the Screen Battles "Final Stand" set (which is NOT a remold of Screen Battles Bumblebee).

Plus stuff like Cyber Slammers Bumblebee (Classic and Concept Camaro versions), Cyber Stompin' Bumblebee, Robot Heroes...

Expect the ROTF line to have AT LEAST as many Bumblebee toys.
 

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Old 2008-11-30, 12:27 AM   #609
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curiosity killed the cat and all, but... how many bb's (including as you have redecos into other characters IE cliffjumper) are there alltogether then? i count another eight for animated:

deluxe
elite guard deluxe (black redeco)
fast action battler
legends
activators
activators cliffjumper redeco (does it still count if the head is new?)
activators (or was it a legend?) 'patrol' bumblebee (the white one)
that animated cyber stomper thing.
and still no word on future wasp repaints/cybertronian modes/more cliffjumpers, etc

typical: you wait for twenty years, then 32 come all at once...
 
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Old 2008-11-30, 12:58 AM   #610
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Animated Fast Action Battlers?
 
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Old 2008-11-30, 01:02 AM   #611
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must mean the Bumper Battler.
 
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Old 2008-11-30, 10:44 AM   #612
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With ROTF Secretcode could be right with his joke about 42 Bumblebees...
 
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People BIG no HUGE NEWS!!! Sean Long aka the TransformersMatrix has done a review of ROTF Soundwave. Its a deluxe (Smaller than Jazz). To find it just search for Fallen Review. When I looked for a review of the Fallen I came across it...

 

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Old 2008-11-30, 11:45 AM   #614
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People BIG no HUGE NEWS!!! Sean Long aka the TransformersMatrix has done a review of ROTF Soundwave. Its a deluxe (Smaller than Jazz). To find it just search for Fallen Review. When I looked for a review of the Fallen I came across it...

link for the rest of us....

and yes, i meant bumper battlers, my bad. i may also have missed any mcdonalds/burger king giveaways there may have been.

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good to see what seems to be a correct transformation to robot mode, but choppy editing and poor camera work *again* from sean makes it difficult to follow the transformation sequence... watching him do it quickly in reverse was more enlightening.

I'm thinking the missile is like the protoforms'; an engine jet blast in alt mode, and some kind of beacon or signal flare in robot. but then i was wrong about the size, wasn't i?

 

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Old 2008-11-30, 01:25 PM   #615
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I fail to see how a Sean Triple-X Long VIDEO REVIEW of a toy we've already seen multiple photos of qualifies for BIG NEWS.
 
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Old 2008-11-30, 01:45 PM   #616
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With ROTF Secretcode could be right with his joke about 42 Bumblebees...
And then I can die happy.

SeanLong isn't that bad once you get to know him, but in this case Peaugh's review is much better, as it shows off everything.
 
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Old 2008-11-30, 03:42 PM   #617
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I fail to see how a Sean Triple-X Long VIDEO REVIEW of a toy we've already seen multiple photos of qualifies for BIG NEWS.
shows off new features (missile), gives size context, kinda shows the transformation.

yeah i suppose we've seen all this before from assorted pics, but lets face it, this is about the only thing we actually have to discuss. that, and numbers of bumblebees...

secretcode; i do admire his ability to get hold of these unreleased figures, however dodgy they may be (or not, i can't say), and its nice to see a proactive figure in the fandom actually *doing* something*, i just wish he'd, y'know, hold the camera back a bit....

*far too many sites simply report on other websites, even when they actually have the pull to get advance figures and draw interviewees etc...
 
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I totally will NOT buy stolen toys from China. And furthermore, I strongly advise any members of this site not to buy stolen "advance figures" from Chinese sellers either.

When stolen toys show up on the web, I will report on them, but I will not try to one-up other sites by trying to get my hands on them first.

This is not a competition. SOME sites see it that way, going out of their way trying to get whatever "scoops" they can get their dirty hands on.

TF Archive is none of these sites. We're not on some high-and-mighty holier-than-thou "ONLY INFORMATION OFFICIALLY CLEARED THROUGH HASBRO" trip either, but we won't do whatever is necessary to get news "first".

If we get a scoop, that's nice. But we will NOT resort to supporting illegal practices in the process.

Me personally? I care more about getting the news RIGHT and getting everything sorted properly than having the first blurry photo of Eric Siebenaler's latest toilet dump.
 

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Old 2008-11-30, 05:17 PM   #619
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I totally will NOT buy stolen toys from China. And furthermore, I strongly advise any members of this site not to buy stolen "advance figures" from Chinese sellers either.

When stolen toys show up on the web, I will report on them, but I will not try to one-up other sites by trying to get my hands on them first.

This is not a competition. SOME sites see it that way, going out of their way trying to get whatever "scoops" they can get their dirty hands on.

TF Archive is none of these sites. We're not on some high-and-mighty holier-than-thou "ONLY INFORMATION OFFICIALLY CLEARED THROUGH HASBRO" trip either, but we won't do whatever is necessary to get news "first".

If we get a scoop, that's nice. But we will NOT resort to supporting illegal practices in the process.

Me personally? I care more about getting the news RIGHT and getting everything sorted properly than having the first blurry photo of Eric Siebenaler's latest toilet dump.
errrrr... not my intention to prod/poke at tfarchive, or to encourage receipt of stolen goods.... my own fault for not being clear on that.

I've always found tf archive to be one of the better sites for filtering noise, and compiling information, plus it does occasionally get 'scoops' of its own. sometimes. i also greatly appreciate that this is, by definition, an 'archive', and i appreciate the efforts that go into maintaining that aspect, as well as the other work that goes on here in sourcing interesting interviews (including from foreign-language sites), and all the translation that goes on with the manga. Also, nevermore's work with the code numbers is well known, and fully puts him 'up there' as a fandom expert, imho.

my ire was aimed fully at other sites/podcasts who re-report old news, often without references, or with potatoslapped photosopped watermarks. or who only do a bare ninimum of work just so they can say they have a transformers website etc. you have x-amount of visitors/listeners, would it be so hard to at least try and get a guest on? or do a video review that involves you knowing how to transform the damn figure!

my overall point was that if one were to compile a list of people whithin the fandom who were really 'advancing the cause' (generic statement, i know, but you get what i mean), it would be a shorter list than it needed to be, given the number of people who *could* be doing something. and there would be noticeable gaps in the skills base...

its improved a bit recently, but that has mostly come from the 'other' side... derek j wyatt's blog, hasbo q&a, that guy who did the early on-spec art for the constructicons, etc.

and don't get me started on tfcc, which is, at times, shockingly poor.

also, before anyone else gets p*ssed at me, no, we don't actually know how or where sean long (or anyone esle) got their toys so quickly. could be perfectly legit, for all we know... hasbros statement about advance figures only actually applies to those for sale. so far as i know, there is nothing directly illegal about showing a demonstration model, beyond breaching internal company policy.

so, um, drugs are bad, m'kay?

edit: when i said 'pull to get advanced figures' i meant legal ones... despite what hasbro says about street dates being somehow legally binding, legitimate advance figures do exist, usually in the hands of toy reps.... surely someone whithin the fandom has a friend somewhere that works in the relevant division of a major toy retailer? hamleys? harrods? toys r us? target? walmart? the list goes on...
 

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Old 2008-11-30, 08:20 PM   #620
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As long as it's a legit retrieval and not a "Stolen Chinese Toy", in the words of Vangelus, Early copies on shelves or at stores? Sure. Why not?

I understand a review of Soon-to-be-released toys released about 2 weeks before the supposed release, but something like this? **** no.
 
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