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Old 2008-12-17, 07:38 PM   #1
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Default New upcoming Takara toys: Henkei Legends, Cassette reissues!

http://toy-workers.blogspot.com/2008...pre-order.html

Henkei C-18 is Beachcomber, Bumblebee and Brawn (the latter two probably named "Bumble" and "Gong").

Henkei C-19 is Wheelie, Warpath and Cosmos (probably named "Adams").

The Cassettes reissue set consists of Jagzar (Ravage), Condor (Laserbeak), Eject and Rewind.
 

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Old 2008-12-17, 08:51 PM   #2
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The cassette reissue has my attention. I'd love to get all the cassettes at a reasonable price.

Not as much as the jap-only headmaster heads, but hey..

The rest of em, I'll pick up. they'll be cheap enough. And i'm liking them a lot more than most legends figures.
 

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Old 2008-12-17, 09:52 PM   #3
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I like the spy team and those cassettes to. Now they only have to come to... Holland
 
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Old 2008-12-18, 04:42 AM   #4
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I want Graphy, Noise, Zaur, and...whatever the fourth was called. Decibel and Legout FTW!
 
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Old 2008-12-18, 04:46 AM   #5
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The cassettes are a mixed blessing. On the one hand, the reissue is good as it's something a number of people have been pining for for years. On the other hand, they're the same molds that were reissued with Soundblaster and Twincast, which does not portend well for the other molds.

I would like to see Frenzy/Rumble and Overkill with Slugfest since I don't have any of those and they're adorable.
 
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Old 2008-12-18, 12:07 PM   #6
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The Cassette reissues... Like Clay, I am only waiting for Rumble, Frenzy, Overkill and Slugfest. And possibly Buzzsaw.

Ravage and Laserbeak I already have, thanks to Commemorative edition Soundwave.

Eject and Rewind I couldn't care less about. And the Cassette combiners ain't really strong toys. Ramhorn looks adorable, but Steeljaw is all meh.
 
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Old 2008-12-18, 02:28 PM   #7
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Yeh, that's an awfully dull batch of figures - both the Cons have been out recently with Soundwave reissues (I mean, it'd be nice if they at least did Buzzsaw), and the Autobot robot isn't a particularly good mould (certainly not a patch on Rumble/Frenzy...). Would rather see the Japanese cassettes or at least Ratbat instead. That said, I do think on the back of these less than stellar choices, and those made for Kiss Players, the omens aren't good for the other moulds.
 
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Old 2008-12-18, 11:19 PM   #8
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Ratbat & Rumble/Frenzy might happen if T-T could wrestle the molds away from the Chinese "perfect knockoff" companies.

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i think it was "Dial"... like the soap.
 
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Old 2008-12-18, 11:26 PM   #9
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Ratbat & Rumble/Frenzy might happen if T-T could wrestle the molds away from the Chinese "perfect knockoff" companies.
Sadly, if they could we'd probably have Mirage and the Dinobots by now... Still, if Takara wanted the money that badly maybe they'd have taken better care of the moulds in the first place...
 
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Old 2008-12-18, 11:42 PM   #10
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Really rather like Cosmos and Warpath.
 
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Old 2008-12-19, 03:04 AM   #11
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I just can't seem to comprehend why you'd have a tank on a spy team, and not on an attack team.
 
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Old 2008-12-20, 01:34 AM   #12
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That said, I do think on the back of these less than stellar choices, and those made for Kiss Players, the omens aren't good for the other moulds.
That's what I mean: Soundwave/Soundblaster has been reissued with the bird and cat molds before, and the Blaster/Twincast reissues came with the lion and the Rewind/Eject mold.

Even counting the oddball things like the Kiss Player set and the Ehobby Cobalt Sentry duo, only those four molds have been reused, and this reissue is of three of them.
 
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Old 2008-12-20, 01:53 AM   #13
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Yeah, they've used the molds too many times, but they haven't used them in these colours, so i may pick up.
 
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Old 2008-12-20, 02:10 AM   #14
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That's what I mean: Soundwave/Soundblaster has been reissued with the bird and cat molds before, and the Blaster/Twincast reissues came with the lion and the Rewind/Eject mold.

Even counting the oddball things like the Kiss Player set and the Ehobby Cobalt Sentry duo, only those four molds have been reused, and this reissue is of three of them.
Yeh, the omission of Rumble/Frenzy at any of those stages pretty much confirms to me that the moulds are dead, or at least beyond viable repair - I guess for Ramhorn, the Japanese cassettes and the '88 combiners there's a bit more hope, especially as Takara haven't touched most post-Movie stuff since that whole God Ginrai fiasco. But then it makes little difference if something's not being reissued because Takara sold the moulds to fund buying lolita porn, or simply because they don't want to - either way, they probably aren't coming out... I guess it takes a bit of money to clean up moulds even if they're basically intact.
 
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Old 2008-12-20, 02:38 AM   #15
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Yeh, the omission of Rumble/Frenzy at any of those stages pretty much confirms to me that the moulds are dead, or at least beyond viable repair - I guess for Ramhorn, the Japanese cassettes and the '88 combiners there's a bit more hope, especially as Takara haven't touched most post-Movie stuff since that whole God Ginrai fiasco.
Yeah, they managed to keep Star Convoy intact for whatever reason. I'd guess the 1986+ tapes are in decent shape, even if momentarily misplaced.

But yeah, the Frenzy/Rumble mold would have been tossed in with any of the Soundwave/Blaster reissues by now if it were up to snuff.
 
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Old 2008-12-20, 03:25 AM   #16
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Yeh, the omission of Rumble/Frenzy at any of those stages pretty much confirms to me that the moulds are dead, or at least beyond viable repair - I guess for Ramhorn, the Japanese cassettes and the '88 combiners there's a bit more hope, especially as Takara haven't touched most post-Movie stuff since that whole God Ginrai fiasco. But then it makes little difference if something's not being reissued because Takara sold the moulds to fund buying lolita porn, or simply because they don't want to - either way, they probably aren't coming out... I guess it takes a bit of money to clean up moulds even if they're basically intact.
That brings up an interesting point. How do they keep Star Convoy, Landcross, and the Micromaster Six-Combiners and somehow lose the likes of Victory Leo and Liokaiser?
 
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Old 2008-12-20, 03:37 AM   #17
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Old 2008-12-20, 04:13 AM   #18
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I just made another point. Landcross is a Victory mold, and the only Victory mold reissued. How do they lose an ENTIRE LINE aside from one set of molds?
 
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Old 2008-12-20, 08:28 AM   #19
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Whoa, hold on - who said they lost the rest of the Victory line? Do w have any confirmation on that at all? The main reason most of Victory and so on isn't out is, AFAIK, because it's deeply unpopular in Japan. It'd be the equivalent of Hasbro reissuing the Vehicle Pretenders or something. Worse, actually, as the Victory toys are big and expensive on top of being disliked by the audience.

One of the funniest things about Japanese Transformers is that while Western fans drool over the likes of Star Saber, Overlord and Dai Atlas, the Japanese fans aren't interested in much beyond the American cartoon. Landcross got through as an extension of Micromasters (which did well to being small and cute), while do I have to explain why God Ginrai and Star Convoy came out?
 
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Old 2008-12-22, 06:25 PM   #20
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e-Hobby listings:

http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc...T&code=tf_c_25
http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc...T&code=tf_c_26

Bumble (Bumblebee) has been replaced by Cliff (Cliffjumper), possibly because there is already a Henkei Bumble.

So the lineup is now:
C-18 Attack Team - Cliff, Beachcomber, Gong (Brawn)
C-19 Spy Team - Warpath, Wheelie, Adams (Cosmos)

Also, Encore 15 Cassette Daisakusen Vol. 1 (Jaguar/Ravage, Eject, Condor/Laserbeak & Rewind)
http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc...de=tf_encore15

All due in March.
 

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