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View Poll Results: "A historic" or "An historic"?
A historic. 6 35.29%
An historic. 4 23.53%
Depends on how aspirated your h is. 2 11.76%
Depends on how pretentious you are. 5 29.41%
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Old 2009-01-14, 06:13 AM   #1
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Question "A historic" or "An historic"?

Which is it and why?
 
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Old 2009-01-14, 06:48 AM   #2
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hmmmm [/no not Homer, more like S H 2 on Genesis on bein hit]

tis (as in tis true) "a" and not "an"

nex [/1984 character]
 
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Old 2009-01-14, 07:08 AM   #3
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I think tense may play a role as to which is preferable. The local idiom would seem to be:

"It was an historic day."

"It is a historic day."

"It will be a historic day."

But I do notice that I will just use "an" when speaking. I guess that sounding out a strong "a" sound is more effort than I'm willing to put out.
 

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Old 2009-01-14, 07:18 AM   #4
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An Hero?
 


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Old 2009-01-14, 07:22 AM   #5
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An interesting link.

Found this there ... strangely suitable to the title they used:

 

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Old 2009-01-14, 07:52 AM   #6
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An historic is correct. I think this is what I use too, but not sure since it's not a phrase I use regularly.

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Old 2009-01-14, 08:37 AM   #7
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An Historic is correct afaik. Though the 'h' becomes silent.
 

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Old 2009-01-14, 08:45 AM   #8
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I voted for the third option- depends on how you pronounce "historic." I think "an historic" is actually more correct too, but it can sound a bit funny coming from, say, a guy from the southeast US with a strong "H" sound.
 
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Old 2009-01-14, 08:58 AM   #9
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Yeah, if you use 'an', don't stress the 'h'. It should sound like 'an-istoric', afaik. Little to no 'h' sound.
 

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Old 2009-01-14, 09:06 AM   #10
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I think I need to start playing Red Alert 3. hmm
 
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Old 2009-01-14, 09:57 AM   #11
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Grammatically, 'a historic' is correct. It can only be written that way. The spoken version depends on a) accent, b) intonation and c) not getting it right. Even the Man from the Beeb has been heard to drone: "And this is an historic event..."

Arrrrggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!
 

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Old 2009-01-14, 10:44 AM   #12
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Can i just make a point? Who the hell would care which way you said it anyways?
 

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Old 2009-01-14, 11:39 AM   #13
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Can i just make a point? Who the hell would care which way you said it anyways?
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Old 2009-01-14, 11:42 AM   #14
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Actually the question was directed at notabot, but anyways...

I wasn't exactly meaning to be so speicific to use names or anything, just curious as to how much it really matters to people...
 

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Old 2009-01-14, 01:21 PM   #15
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Probably more than anything you have to say matters.

I'd say "a historic", though I'd more likely fudge around it - "a day of historical importance"
 
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Old 2009-01-14, 05:55 PM   #16
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Can i just make a point? Who the hell would care which way you said it anyways?
Perhaps he's writing a paper for a class? Profs can be fantastic douchebags when it comes to insignificant rules like this. They like to take away points whenever they can. It makes them feel good about themselves.

I voted "an historic" since that's how I hear it said/used for the most part.

EDIT: According to this site I'm wrong: http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/anhistoric.html It also looks like they use "a historic," but "an historical" in terms of results that came up with google.
 

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Old 2009-01-14, 06:03 PM   #17
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Perhaps he's writing a paper for a class? Profs can be fantastic douchebags when it comes to insignificant rules like this. They like to take away points whenever they can. It makes them feel good about themselves.
I don't know why they have to be like that. I hated who my English teacher went over every little rule on our paper. I barly passed that class.
I voted the last one. Going by grammer, a historic is correct. But I have meet some who say it goes one way or the other. I don't care either way.
 

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Old 2009-01-14, 06:04 PM   #18
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Perhaps he's writing a paper for a class? Profs can be fantastic douchebags when it comes to insignificant rules like this. They like to take away points whenever they can. It makes them feel good about themselves.
**** yes. On my English 101 final, my teacher took away a point for each contraction you use. Sad thing is, this rule never existed ANYWHERE during class, despite her insistence, and if it was my final grade would be a lot lower. My paper that would have been a clear 98/100 (Forgot to put the date on the paper) was struck down to a 79/100 due to that.
 


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Old 2009-01-14, 07:37 PM   #19
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I don't know why they have to be like that. I hated who my English teacher went over every little rule on our paper. I barly passed that class.
I voted the last one. Going by grammer, a historic is correct. But I have meet some who say it goes one way or the other. I don't care either way.
Clearly the teacher's fault. Lousy teachers trying to teach lousy basic skills.
 
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Old 2009-01-14, 08:22 PM   #20
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Plus the "who"<-->"how".

Please tell me all that was deliberate.

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On my English 101 final, my teacher took away a point for each contraction you use[d].
Most marking schemes would -- essays are usually expected to not be in conversational style. On the other hand someone should've pointed out the concept of register (i.e. formal versus informal) years before whenever the exam was, unless it was in kindergarten.
 
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