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Old 2013-06-07, 01:15 PM   #81
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I would question the cost of his radio voice licensing songs and getting permission from actors and/or the estates of dead actors (like John Wayne), getting permission other companies who seem to cost a lot of money.
IIRC everything he says is Paramount (or subsidiary) owned; music is usually covered by agreements with whichever label covers the soundtrack (which for large studios is often a long-standing pre-existing relationship). I seriously doubt the clips are actually costing them much at all; if they were, they'd use different clips which didn't. TBH I'm not entirely convinced Bumblebee's voice did come back fully at the end of the first one; he said two lines and the only reason people know they're not a grab from another film is because Mark "Guest episode of Dempsey & Makepeace" Ryan's smallfry enough to do the convention rounds.

Lambo would make a good 'swipe if they're rebodying everyone. Not expecting a huge amount of support cast continuity TBH; wouldn't be amazed if the Wreckers get Jolted, which'll at least mean IDW can do a six issue mini-series where they have exactly the same personalities as their G1/2 namesakes and die epic deaths facing some Decepticon mastermind who's in about three scenes of the film itself. Plus we get to watch them jump through hoops about Arcee all over again.
 
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Old 2013-06-07, 01:28 PM   #82
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TBH I'm not entirely convinced Bumblebee's voice did come back fully at the end of the first one
This.

(Actually, when I first saw the movie I thought Bumblebee was still quoting films, just a particularly suitable one, and Sam going 'you can speak now' is him being an idiot.)

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Would be a bit strange having a Corvette in the cast if Sideswipe remained, though, in my opinion....

And there's nothing to say that the Aventador is an Autobot either, come to think of it.

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Not expecting a huge amount of support cast continuity TBH; wouldn't be amazed if the Wreckers get Jolted
At this rate I won't be surprised if Bumblebee and Optimus turned out to be the only returning characters. Maybe, just maybe, Ratchet but even then I would be surprised if he did return.

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which'll at least mean IDW can do a six issue mini-series where they have exactly the same personalities as their G1/2 namesakes and die epic deaths facing some Decepticon mastermind who's in about three scenes of the film itself. Plus we get to watch them jump through hoops about Arcee all over again.
Yeah, they'll probably do a big miniseries explaining where Arcee, the Twins, Sideswipe, the Wreckers and Mario all disappeared to.

Frankly I'm surprised there hasn't already been a post-DOTM series detailing why Shockwave is such a mook in the movie or where the Twins disappeared off to.
 
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Old 2013-06-07, 03:07 PM   #83
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Agreed that all the soundtrack stuff Bumblebee used comes under Paramount's ownership (though the TV rights for Star Trek are no longer owned by the company oddly enough, so they may have had to pay CBS more for that clip from Amok Time than all of Bumblebee's bits cost them put together. Presuming that Uhura's quote in the first one came from one of the still Paramount owned films. Ah, the joys of a company breaking up. Is there any other franchise where the rights to all past and future TV versions are owned by one group and the similar rights to movies are owned by somebody else?).

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I'm not entirely convinced Bumblebee's voice did come back fully at the end of the first one; he said two lines and the only reason people know they're not a grab from another film is because Mark "Guest episode of Dempsey & Makepeace" Ryan's smallfry enough to do the convention rounds.
You're just jelous because you'll never attain those dizzy heights of Dempsy and Makepeace

In fairness though, the people who assume that include the people actually making the films, Ryan's lines for Bumblebee in the two sequels were all cut out after he recorded them IIRC. The fact they were still writing the character dialogue into the third one suggests that, whilst they obviously couldn't come up with something that worked as well as mute Bee they never considered him not to have been fixed, just he never got around to talking on camera. Though how that works "In Universe" is more up to the viewer of course.

Personally, I'd go with film Bumblebee being nuts enough to not bother talking because he likes the whole radio thing.

Considering it's a black Lamborghini perhaps it'll be Dead End? Though I do want Bay to mind **** the wiki by calling one totally random character either Mirage or Wheeljack.
 
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Old 2013-06-07, 04:28 PM   #84
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Considering it's a black Lamborghini perhaps it'll be Dead End? Though I do want Bay to mind **** the wiki by calling one totally random character either Mirage or Wheeljack.
Wildrider's the black Stunticon!

Breakdown's the Lamborghini Stunticon!

Let's call this bloke MOTORMASTER!
 
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Old 2013-06-08, 10:00 PM   #85
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The problem with that optimus is that it doesn't leave any room to make a squat, chibi fast action battler version.
 
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Old 2013-06-09, 02:32 PM   #86
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Old bodies, old bodies...
 

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Old 2013-06-09, 06:21 PM   #87
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Could this man we're going to see the actual conversion then? If imagined it as more of a soft reboot kinda thing.
 
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Old 2013-06-19, 03:08 AM   #88
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SPOILERS:
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THERE WILL BE DECEPTICONS IN IT

 

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Old 2013-06-25, 11:01 PM   #89
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A friend of mine sent me these via phone. They live in Adrian, MI where I used to attend college. Apparently they're filming there at the moment and my friend managed to snap some shots of Optimus! Sorry for the somewhat poor quality.




 
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Old 2013-06-26, 10:47 AM   #90
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Lawn and tree care specialist? The plot is about optimus trying to make up for stepping on Sam's mum's flowers in the first film. You heard it here first!
 
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Old 2013-06-27, 02:10 AM   #91
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The amount of fancy sports cars are increasing!

From the mouth of Bay, which makes it likely that this is another Autobot or Transformer since everything in his blog is one, is a Pagani Huayra.
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Considered a masterpiece of design and engineering, this fierce, 2013 blood red Pagani Huayra, is named after an ancient Andean God of Wind. High resolution photo: http://bayhem.com/15BERvQ
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And people over in Seibertron have been reporting seeing a silver concept Cadillac Cien, a concept Buick Velite, white Ferrari, blue Aston Martin and a pair of GTO's.
 

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Old 2013-06-27, 07:05 AM   #92
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It'd actually be a logical extension of the way the first three have been going if we moved more towards having lots of characters with less characterisation, more of an army than a team. Which is difficult to fault in a way as that's the set-up for the eighties material with the tight well-characterised 'team' (as seen in the 07 film) being a much newer idea to Transformers (only really properly coming into play in BW). Of course, the bugdet for coming up with 20 or so new transforming robots would be mental... mind, "non-transforming" characters like the Wreckers or the Twins must by definition cost about half as much as - say - Jazz.
 
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Old 2013-06-27, 07:26 AM   #93
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Nice that Prime has had an overhaul, although I prefer real-world vehicles rather than all of these customs... The smokestacks are very Rodimus though, but I can see the design growing on me (it's relatively similar to FE Prime I guess, but more space-age bizarrely). I wonder if the robot mode will have changed significantly.

Also liking all the snazzy sports cars, but would like to see more practical vehicles like pick-ups or construction (or - a Land Rover Defender would be a dream, but I'd take any other kind of Landy or even a Jeep...). But, hey, guess kids prefer souped up cars.



Sure I'll enjoy the film anyway - all it has to do is deliver transforming robots and some action after all, and Bay has demonstrated he's very good at both (if lacking in other areas).
 
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Old 2013-06-27, 01:59 PM   #94
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Don't really expect much from this film in regards to the transformer characters, and the multitude of vehicles speaks volume of that.

Just hope that this time they bother to make figures of all the autobot cars instead of the mess of DOTM.
 
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Old 2013-06-27, 04:05 PM   #95
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Just hope that this time they bother to make figures of all the autobot cars instead of the mess of DOTM.
I'm with you on that! DOTM was a really disappointing toy line, and a marketing disaster to boot!
 
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Old 2013-06-27, 05:42 PM   #96
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Hmmm... all these sports cars, upgrades to the alt modes of Prime and Bumblebee, the old ones still floating around. I wonder if they're gonna pull a reverse-Masquerade with Stunticons impersonating the Autobots.
 
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Old 2013-06-27, 06:22 PM   #97
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Hmmm... all these sports cars, upgrades to the alt modes of Prime and Bumblebee, the old ones still floating around. I wonder if they're gonna pull a reverse-Masquerade with Stunticons impersonating the Autobots.
Definitely got potential as a twist and a way of bringing in some 'new' villains, would also play nicely with the anti-Autobot political stuff seen in the last couple too. Would also be a snazzy bit of Bay 'misdirection' (i.e. trying to stop joyless nerds from revealing key plot points months in advance when they scour PC game files).

I do find Optimus' upgrade a bit baffling, as to a certain demographic the long-nosed cab is probably iconic in its' own way (is he the only TF to remain all-but-unchanged for all three or is that something I've made up to look like I'm a genius?).
 
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Old 2013-06-28, 05:44 AM   #98
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I do find Optimus' upgrade a bit baffling, as to a certain demographic the long-nosed cab is probably iconic in its' own way (is he the only TF to remain all-but-unchanged for all three or is that something I've made up to look like I'm a genius?).
I think his vehicle mode remains largely the same in all three, but so does Ironhide's if I recall.

Ironhide's robot mode also remains the same (again, if my recollection is correct), but Prime's doesn't. Other than the obvious Jetfire combo in ROTF and the jetpack in DOTM which are add-ons, his stomach is totally different in DOTM (presumably repairs from that massive gash Megatron left in him in ROTF?).

Undoubtedly the TF4 pics suggest Prime's bigger makeover if the Stunticon theory isn't correct.
 
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Old 2013-06-28, 06:02 AM   #99
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Old 2013-06-28, 09:25 AM   #100
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Starscream got CGI tribal tattoos all over the place in both vehicle and robot mode, as well as being more refined in bot mode than he was in movie 1.

I just love how people speculate and build upon theories, and in the end we'll probably be mind f*cked by a totally mindless plot and possibly most of these vehicles will serve as background items and whatnot.
 
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