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Old 2013-10-10, 04:37 AM   #1
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Before the coming of Unicron, Rodimus was already a talented warrior, recognized by his comrades for his potential and lack of patience. When he became Rodimus Prime, he set out to lead from the front. He was always the first on the battlefield, and the last off, thrusting himself into the deepest danger rather than asking any of the robots under his command to sacrifice themselves.

Rodimus Prime. To many original Transformers fans he's a scapegoat, a symbol of everything that went wrong with Transformers after the first two seasons of the 80s cartoon. But to me he's something different, and something far, far more. As a child born in 1984, it was Rodimus, not Optimus, who was the hero of my childhood Transformers adventures. He's always been an icon to me, and as I grew older he became more than that -- he became a symbol of how everyone has to grow up, but also of how growing up doesn't need to change who you are just because you've had new responsibilities thrust upon you. Considering that I'm nearly thirty years old and still spending my free time and disposable income on Transformers toys, I think it's safe to say that Rodimus Prime is more or less my role model.

Because of my abiding fondness for the character, when I heard that a Masterpiece Rodimus Prime toy was coming out there was never any doubt that I would own it. But Takara's release of the figure was outside of my price range, and the innumerable QC issues that cropped up on the initial Takara release prompted me to wait for the later Hasbro release of the figure, which in turn had some nasty QC issues of it's own. In fact, I had to return the first Rodimus I bought to the store because his arm had detached in the package.

The differences between the Hasbro and Takara releases are many -- different colours, different accessories and the major one: Hasbro's omission of Rodimus's trailer. But the core of the figure remains the same, and it's one of the most ambitious Transformers I've ever encountered. Unfortunately, it's that ambition that undoes it in the end.

Robot Modes: Rodimus comes packaged in robot mode, and what a robot mode it is! I would say that he looks like he just strutted in off of an animation cell, but the truth is that he actually looks better than that. The Takara version used a colour schemed that was based on the cartoon model but Hasbro's toy goes in a different direction with a colour scheme that blends cartoon and toy details to create a whole that's greater than the sum of it's parts. Rodimus is huge, standing around ten inches tall, with loving amounts of detail, wonderful poseability and a level of faithfulness to the cartoon proportions that should be flat-out impossible in a transforming figure. He's mostly maroon with orange, yellow, grey and chromed silver highlights, and is in my opinion one of the most beautiful figures ever to have the word 'Transformers' on the package.

But one lovely robot mode isn't enough for this toy. No, the Takara designers -- clearly of the mind that anything worth doing is worth overdoing -- decided that making a Masterpiece Rodimus Prime wasn't enough. Because this toy isn't just Rodimus Prime, it's Hot Rod as well. One quick face swap, some adjustments to his spoiler and a repositioning of his hips later and the toy is now the spitting image of Rodimus's younger self! Though the cartoon models for the two are pretty similar (and in fact often got confused for one another), the toy looks surprisingly different from one robot mode to the next. Hot Rod looks young and powerful while Rodimus is taller, leaner and has an air of authority about him.

Since he's marketed as a Masterpiece figure, you would expect Rodimus to be very poseable. And you would be right! He has a full range of motion in his neck, elbows, waist, hips and knees as well as articulated ankles and fingers. His shoulders have some minor mobility issues due to the design the toy is replicating, but not bad enough that you'd notice on a lesser toy. The ankles make it pretty easy to balance Rodimus, and the fact that his feet are made from die-cast metal (an apparent reference to the 80s Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime toys) helps quite a bit by lowering his centre of gravity. The end result is a toy that's more poseable than a lot of nontransformable action figures, and while he's a bit too big and heavy to be properly called a 'toy' in my books he does make for a great display piece in countless different poses.

Rodimus also comes with an impressive number of accessories. He has two handheld rifles meant to evoke the original Hot Rod's guns, which can also combine to form Rodimus Prime's distinctive photon eliminator rifle. He also comes with a more-or-less Legion-sized version of Hot Rod's Targetmaster partner Firebolt Sparks Offshoot, making Rodimus one of the most heavily-armed robots in the Autobot army when you take into account his wrist blasters. He also comes with two different Matrixes of Leadership, a small one designed to fit inside his torso and another, larger one that looks good in his hands. And if that weren't enough he comes with a saw blade and welding tool that can replace his hands to replicate memorable scenes from the 1986 movie and features a set of deployable 'sunglasses' to replicate yet another scene.

Rodimus isn't without his flaws, though. His lower legs are made up of many different panels that don't want to fit tightly together, leaving unsightly seams in his shins. His chest has similar problems and the collection of odds and ends that form his backpack don't like to stay pegged together at all. Rodimus also has way more trouble than he should holding his weapons due to a less-than-optimal hand design. None of these are huge issues, but on a big-ticket figure at such a large scale they're really unnecessary.

Alternate Mode: In spite of being called "Masterpiece Rodimus Prime" this toy excludes Rodimus's trailer, which means that the alt-mode is all Hot Rod. Considering how plain Rodimus's vehicle mode is and how much extra money I'd have to pay to get that featureless box, I'm okay with that. But even still, I'm not a fan of this toy's alternate mode at all. This isn't entirely the toy's fault; I've never really cared for the weird, curvy vehicle that cartoon Hot Rod transformed into and always preferred the single sharp wedge of the original toy. However, the fact that his transformation is one of the most frustrating things I've ever had to to as a fan of the brand most definitely is the designers' fault. Though they manage to replicate the on-screen car mode fairly well, that replication comes at the cost of making the toy very fragile and the transformation process a nightmare.

Once he's in alt-mode though, Rodimus looks the part. He's still mostly maroon with an orange, flame-decoed hood and the obligatory silver chrome exhaust pipes running down either side of the car. He's also gigantic by Transformers standards, easily the largest Autobot car I've ever seen and probably too big to actually play with as a car. He definitely pulls off the look the designers set out for, that much is certain.

Targetmaster: As I mentioned earlier, Rodimus comes with Hot Rod's Nebulan sidekick, renamed Offshoot for trademark reasons (though his name wasn's consistent even in the 80s, so whatever). Since Rodimus is nearly three times the size of Targetmaster Hot Rod, Offshoot is thus quite a bit larger and more detailed than Firebolt was. He stands about as tall as a Legion figure and carries over the original's black, grey and red colour scheme, though with a far more complex deco than the original, tiny Firebolt.

Offshoot is, in fact, easily the smallest fully-articulated Transformer I've ever seen. He features everything you could ask for in such a tiny figure except for a waist joint, and is tremendously poseable. His transformation to gun mode takes full advantage of all those joints, taking what could have been a weak folded-over robot like the original and turning it into a believable sidearm.

My Offshoot sadly suffers from an assembly error -- one of the pins holding his arm together was driven in on a bad angle, and while it doesn't seem to hinder the joint's movement it's unsightly and probably reduces the limb's durability quite a bit. This seems to be a one-off error though, or at least I've never heard of anyone else reporting the problem (and the Offshoot that came with my first, broken Rodimus was fine).

Offshoot only comes with the Hasbro version of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime, and other than the toy-based deco (which I prefer but some won't) is one of the biggest differences between the Hasbro toy and the Takara one. As someone who grew up with a Targetmaster Hot Rod that frequently took command of my Autobots, I think it's a great touch.

Transformation Design: 'Over-engineered' is the only honest way to describe this thing. I get where the engineers were coming from, and I appreciate the effort that went into making Rodimus two toys in one. But effort in this case doesn't equal results. I'm never going to transform Rodimus again after this review because it's simply not any fun, and if I had the version with the trailer I suspect it would be even worse. 4/10

Durability: This right here basically kills the figure for me. My first Rodimus had to go back to the store because his left arm had torn itself free in the package. My second Rodimus suffered a similar fate after around a year of owning it, though I was able to affect repairs before it became a clean break (and I was happy to discover that the fix didn't impair articulation or transformation). But far too many Rodimus owners have suffered the same fate, doomed by a joint that is always going to break no matter what you do because it was designed very, very poorly. Combined with the numerous design and materials flaws that the other Rodimus releases have suffered, from ruined shins to shattered knees to snapped spoilers, and there's really no 'good' version of the toy. And for something that retailed for $80 or so and up, that's just not acceptable. It's bad enough when a $10 toy is doomed to self-destruct, but there's absolutely zero excuses when you're talking about a high-end collectible. 2/10

Fun: He's Rodimus. And you know what? Even bad toys of this character fill me with a sense of joy. And even with his flaws, the Masterpiece toy isn't bad. With his bevy of accessories and two different robot modes, there's always something new to do with him. 10/10

Aesthetics: I gushed enough at the start of the review that I don't need to do it again, so suffice it to say that Rodimus is a thing of beauty. Car mode is a bit weaker than robot, though. 9/10

Articulation: Though he's got a few minor blemishes, Rodimus has great poseability and balance. He might not be the best toy but he's certainly got all the articulation than you'll ever need in a display piece. 8/10

Price: Checking out eBay, selling prices for this version of the Masterpiece seem to float around between $100 and $120 at the moment which...well, looking at other aftermarket Masterpiece prices I'd say that's not bad. Whether or not that's worth it for a toy that may be a ticking time bomb is up to you, but one thing's for sure -- as more and more Rodimuses fall apart, the price is only going to climb. 6/10

Overall: Masterpiece Rodimus Prime is a hard toy to score, because while I love it, I don't especially like it. The argument can -- and probably should -- be made that this would have been a better toy if it was just Rodimus or just Hot Rod, and if the designers had traded some of the alt-mode accuracy to make it a bit simpler. The emotional part of me wants to gush over it, say how awesome and beautiful it is and how everyone should own one. The more clinical, adult part of me wants to say it's a poorly-built piece of junk that should be avoided at all costs. And both parts would be right. There's so much to love here, but also so much wrong, leaving me with a lukewarm impression of the thing. I can't in good faith recommend it, but there's so much about it to like that I won't warn you off either. Just be careful if you do decide to buy. 6/10
 
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Old 2013-10-10, 04:38 AM   #2
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I'm rather amazed that I could still take alt-mode pics even with his hastily-repaired shoulder...
 
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Old 2013-10-10, 06:36 AM   #3
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Actually, not all MP Rodimus from hasbro will break at the shoulder.

Some will break at the knee

And some, like mine, don't break at all. I think a lot of the pins for this figure were inserted at an angle, stressing the plastic too much for its own good. How do you know if you have an OK one? I don't think there is a way, but not all of them break.
 

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Old 2013-10-10, 10:23 AM   #4
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Oh how this figures frustrates me! I really want the complete deal, Takara style, with the Targetmaster. However, I can't bring myself to drop this kind of money with the massive risk of getting a thoroughly defective figure...
 


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Old 2013-10-10, 11:05 AM   #5
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Speaking of the Targetmaster, he's a pretty rad little figure, and you just mentioned him kind of off-hand. That's the coward's way out. Yarr.
 
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Old 2013-10-10, 01:41 PM   #6
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And some, like mine, don't break at all. I think a lot of the pins for this figure were inserted at an angle, stressing the plastic too much for its own good. How do you know if you have an OK one? I don't think there is a way, but not all of them break.
Regarding the shoulder at least, it's not a pin that causes problems but a spring. It's inside the small cylindrical bit inside his shoulder (where the grey and red bits meet in a geartooth-type assembly) constantly putting pressure on both sides. Considering how commonplace the breakage is, it's likely that the plastic used in the Hasbro version just isn't as strong as what Takara used, and if there are any flaws or damage at all the joint isn't strong enough to hold itself together anymore. My guess is the ones that died in-package had small bubbles or microscopic cracks in the plastic left over from molding, and that little bit was all it took for the spring to push it apart. Poor pin insertion could certainly speed the process up, but it's not the root cause.

Unfortunately, that means that even still-intact joints aren't necessarily safe. As the plastic ages, wears and weakens they might find themselves in the danger zone as well. Even the Takara ones might not be safe as they age, and really, if they were going to use a spring to hold the joint together like that the pieces probably should have been metal.

If the knees blow up it's probably the pins though, I agree.

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Oh how this figures frustrates me! I really want the complete deal, Takara style, with the Targetmaster. However, I can't bring myself to drop this kind of money with the massive risk of getting a thoroughly defective figure...
I can completely understand that point of view. As much as I like him, even buying a currently-unbroken one is going to be a crapshoot.

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Speaking of the Targetmaster, he's a pretty rad little figure, and you just mentioned him kind of off-hand. That's the coward's way out. Yarr.
That's a very good point, actually. I should probably give him a paragraph of his own, because like you say he's pretty neat. Though mine suffers from the same "pins driven in on wrong angle" problem as Knightdramon mentioned, damaging one of the joints.
 
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Old 2013-10-10, 03:04 PM   #7
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I've added a (gushing) 'Targetmaster' section to the review. Thanks for pointing that out!
 
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No problem! I actually almost like the Targetmaster better than Rodimus. I certainly play with him more. It's a real bummer that MP hands aren't standardised so that I can hand him off to other figures.
 
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Actually, not all MP Rodimus from hasbro will break at the shoulder.

Some will break at the knee
Mine broke at the windshield hinge, but that was actually my fault because I mistransformed Rodimus while inserting him into the trailer. Fortunately with some superglue you can't even see the break.
 
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However, I can't bring myself to drop this kind of money with the massive risk of getting a thoroughly defective figure...
Could do what I did and go for a cheap one already broken. You can bind the joints, although it does rather bugger the poseability -- depends if you want to fiddle much once on display. Unfortunately people wanting the latter are in the same situation as fans of characters released in crumbly gold plastic.

You have to wonder how much they actually saved by not making the relevant parts out of metal, compared to the effect on sales due to releasing this as is.
 
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Could do what I did and go for a cheap one already broken. You can bind the joints, although it does rather bugger the poseability -- depends if you want to fiddle much once on display. Unfortunately people wanting the latter are in the same situation as fans of characters released in crumbly gold plastic.
If you're really careful, you can actually repair the shoulders without hindering the articulation. That's what I ended up doing when mine cracked. Knock on wood, but it seems to hold together just fine even through transformations. Admittedly, though, he's purely shelf fodder so I don't fiddle with him much.

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You have to wonder how much they actually saved by not making the relevant parts out of metal, compared to the effect on sales due to releasing this as is.
On second thought, replacing the wonky shoulder bits with metal might have caused wear problems with the other parts they connect to. The same goes for the knees and panels that caused problems in the Takara releases In the end metal parts would likely be a net benefit, but really what they needed to do was reengineer those trouble spots from scratch so they were more stable. Stuff like this is probably why the line's lead designer was replaced soon after.

The impact on sales was definitely real, though -- this is the only Hasbro MP that I've ever seen shelfwarm, and in large numbers.
 
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Old 2013-11-19, 10:50 PM   #12
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I like the look of MP Rodimus (v2), but those hands really amuse me. Thin, tiny forklike hands, which can't fold back or retract into the forearms just to preserve the silly buzzsaw gimmick. And that "teeny tiny girlie Matrix"...
 
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I like the look of MP Rodimus (v2), but those hands really amuse me. Thin, tiny forklike hands, which can't fold back or retract into the forearms just to preserve the silly buzzsaw gimmick. And that "teeny tiny girlie Matrix"...
I can just picture MP-01 Optimus looking smugly at Rodimus and saying "Mine's bigger than yours."
 
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Could do what I did and go for a cheap one already broken. You can bind the joints, although it does rather bugger the poseability -- depends if you want to fiddle much once on display. Unfortunately people wanting the latter are in the same situation as fans of characters released in crumbly gold plastic.

You have to wonder how much they actually saved by not making the relevant parts out of metal, compared to the effect on sales due to releasing this as is.
Alas I'm quite the fiddler...
 


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Old 2013-11-20, 04:52 PM   #15
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I like the look of MP Rodimus (v2), but those hands really amuse me. Thin, tiny forklike hands, which can't fold back or retract into the forearms just to preserve the silly buzzsaw gimmick. And that "teeny tiny girlie Matrix"...
The hands really do suck compared to what the other MPs or even Alternators have gotten, don't they? I agree that bigger hands would be better even if that meant losing the saw/welder gimmicks.

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I can just picture MP-01 Optimus looking smugly at Rodimus and saying "Mine's bigger than yours."
At least Hasbro thought to give their Rodimus a decent-sized Matrix for posing even if he can't actually hold it in his chest. That tiny one is just silly...I gave mine to the shrunken runt that is Generations Thunderwing and it still looks too small in his hands!
 
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Yeah, the tiny matrix is funny, but considering that they *had* to include a chest matrix for the sake of being a Prime and all, and considering how his chest transforms, I don't see a middle ground.

Still remains one of my favourite figures [once you get a decent copy, can't stress this enough]. Has come with me on 2 separate moving occasions, one of which was to a foreign country.

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Old 2013-11-20, 10:16 PM   #17
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I was a little surprised he got a Matrix at all, given that the cartoon was never really consistent about how it fit in his chest to begin with.

As for Optimus' comments, its sorta been done. Sorta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzvSAtS7ECc
 
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Great review! I'm not the biggest fan of Rodimus' design or character to want a massive and expensive Masterpiece toy of him, though I really do like that Firebolt and he does look really good. Shame about the fragility, though.
 
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