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Old 2017-03-13, 07:50 PM   #1
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Today I learned that it's a cover.

Here is the original. Complete with terrible "Beat It" sample/plagiarisation.



From the soundtrack to 1984 Linda Blair film "Savage Streets".

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Old 2017-03-13, 11:54 PM   #2
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The link doesn't seem to work. "Fix me" - Kup.

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Old 2017-03-14, 01:23 AM   #3
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAbo1QHSOuQ

Think we might have had a conversation about that one before, actually.

edit -- yeah, http://tfarchive.com/community/showt...savage+streets (see thread for chiptune bits too)

Bonus 80s cheese (Hunger): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixEV13jggvY

Re-release of NRG's Transformed CD: http://www.nrg.rocks/

NRG play Instruments of Destruction live, 1986 (at about 5:30 in):
https://soundcloud.com/ernie-petrang...ingroom-3-7-86

(Different lyrics. Can't find the original that was on MP3.com back in the day).

Modern charity-supporting cheese:
http://www.distortionprod.com/music/respecttheprime
 
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Old 2017-03-14, 07:51 AM   #4
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Awesome! I think I like the original just as much, and I can make out the lyrics far more easily, I always thought it was:

"The fortune in one, to be fast and free and yoghurt, I want to count myself apart..." etc.

And NRG really went for it in that live outing. The guitar player was pretty spot on, and the lead singer must've had a throat like razor wire afterward.
 
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Old 2017-03-17, 11:15 PM   #5
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The Savage Streets soundtrack album is ace - it also contains an instrumental version of "Nothing's Gonna Stand in Our Way", which is also way cool. The only way to get it on CD is either as an uber-rare German promo, or as a Russian bootleg (which my copy is). Still cost me forty quid, though.

IIRC the song was written by music mogul Randy Bishop, who was quite prolific. He kinda took Kick Axe (aka Spectre General) under his wing and guided their career, so to speak.

Kick Axe wrote "Hunger" themselves in an attempt to sell the song to Black Sabbath, who in the 80s had gone very middle-of-the road (less doomy, more hair-metal). In fact the Kick Axe singer was at one point mooted as a possible Sabbath lead singer (both bands recorded at the same studio, so they knew each other).

In the end Sabbath rejected it but Hunger was instead picked up by King Kobra, whose drummer Carmine Appice used to be in Ozzy Osbourne's band. So although Kick Axe/Spectre General wrote the song, the King Kobra version is not technically a cover, because it came out first.

Kick Axe were forced to change their name to Spectre General because of a contractual issue - they had some exclusivity arrangement which meant that they weren't allowed to have songs on other labels, so their manager changed the name to Spectre General to get round the fact that the film soundtrack was on Scotti Bros records (rather than Pascha, who they were contracted to).

The name change was their manager's doing and they were quite surprised when they saw the new band name in the credits. In subsequent interviews, Kick Axe have gone on record to say that they were essentially used, chewed up and spat out by the record industry. They also claim they could have had Stan Bush levels of 'success' (i.e. they could have made a career out of churning out anodyne rock albums to fleece to Transformers fans), but the confusion over the name change prevented that. That might be true, but they've also claimed that the only reason they never made it big is because their label didn't publicise them enough, which sounds a bit like sour grapes. (Kick Axe were okay, but even with the best will in the world they were never going to be mainstream). Their cover version of The Chain by Fleetwood Mac is way cool.

Erm, other soundtrack trivia...

Stan Bush used to be in a band called Boulder, who released one album before going their seperate ways (most of the other members joined Warren Zevon's band, which was ironic because the first song on the Boulder album was a Warren Zevon cover).

Lion are a group full of rock legends - drummer Mark Edwards was in a band called Steeler with Yngwie Malmsteen, and also released a solo album where he did a rock cover version of Boney M.'s Rasputin, which is surprisingly great. Singer Kal Swan and Guitarist Doug Aldrich later formed the band Bad Moon Rising, who became incredibly popular in Japan, which is why all of the Lion albums have been re-released on CD in Japan (to cash in on the popularity of Bad Moon Rising) but not in the West. Aldrich has also played guitar with Dio and Whitesnake, which makes him an insta-legend in my eyes.

Weird Al has a ginormous box-set coming out later this year (in the shape of an accordion, no less), which features a bonus CD of rarities that includes an instrumental Dare To Be Stupid.
 

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Old 2017-03-18, 04:11 AM   #6
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Randy Bishop.



Christ though, imagine wishing for Stan Bush levels of success.
 
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Old 2017-03-18, 03:43 PM   #7
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Christ though, imagine wishing for Stan Bush levels of success.
Actually, there's a massive AOR 'scene' at the moment, a hankering for eighties-style melodic rock of the type that appeared in the movie. There are magazines that cater to this fanbase (Classic Rock AOR, Fireworks), and many great new bands that deliberately ape this style (Reckless Love, Houston and H.e.a.t are three of the best right now). Stan Bush is never going to be a superstar, but he's a big name in AOR circles, and the retro rock label Rock Candy have recently re-released his first two albums.

Whilst Stan Bush has been releasing a constant stream of new albums since the early eighties, Kick Axe have only a single 'comeback album' to their name in the early 2000s. Other than NRG (who were mega-obscure to begin with and still are!), Kick Axe are the only act from the movie soundtrack who never really kicked on with their careers - Bush, Yankovic, DiCola and the various members of Lion have all done a heck of a lot more than Kick Axe in the intervening years!
 

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Old 2017-03-18, 07:47 PM   #8
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Actually, there's a massive AOR 'scene' at the moment, a hankering for eighties-style melodic rock of the type that appeared in the movie.
...I can vouch for this, having spent last weekend at erm, Hard Rock Hell (the 10th one!). Notable names on the bill Bang Tango, Love/Hate, Slaughter, FM, Lita Ford, The Quireboys, L.A. Guns and professional Goldie Hawn lookalike Michael Monroe. My girlfriend loves this stuff, a full weekend of it is a bit much for me, but I did like Voodoo Vegas, who had a nice line in Southern Fried Rawk if it came from Leicester.
 
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Whilst Stan Bush has been releasing a constant stream of new albums since the early eighties
How many of those that he did post-becoming aware of the following The Movie has developed (say, after 2000) don't include at least a small desperate attempt to ride on its coattails?
 
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Old 2017-03-23, 05:27 PM   #10
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How many of those that he did post-becoming aware of the following The Movie has developed (say, after 2000) don't include at least a small desperate attempt to ride on its coattails?
Err... very few!

IIRC there was a concerted effort by 3H (the then-organisers of Botcon) to do some CDs of movie music in 2001, for the film's 15th anniversary. As well as bringing out the very first CD release of the DiCola score, they also released an 'outtakes, demos and rarities' CD (The Protoform Sessions), and a CD of Vince DiCola reinterpreting the score as solo piano pieces (Artistic Transformations, a fantastic album). On the Stan Bush side of things, they arranged a compilation called Call to Action, which included new remixes of his two big songs, plus a track called Ground Zero, which became the official theme of Botcon.

I think this effort by 3H is what opened Stan and Vince's eyes to the fandom at large. Since 2001, The Touch (or variations thereof) have appeared on studio albums such as Capture the Dream, In This Life and Dream the Dream. Ground Zero was reworked into another song, called Til All Are One, which was used in those Transformers video games a few years back.
 

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Old 2017-05-16, 12:17 AM   #11
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Went yards when this came on when I watched Savage Streets a month or two ago.
 
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Old 2017-08-08, 09:03 AM   #12
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Further to the above, people might be interested in hearing that a 'new' Stan Bush album, "Change the World" is being released next month. Of course, it contains yet more versions of Dare, The Touch and Never Surrender.
 

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