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Old 2017-08-30, 10:54 PM   #1
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Default Which characters are you still waiting for a good toy of?

Between Masterpiece and the recent Generations stuff, a ton of characters that I've been waiting for new figures of forever are now standing on my shelves. But there's still plenty of ground left to cover and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's still got a list of favourites who are still MIA. Whether it be someone who hasn't gotten a figure since the 80s, or someone who's current modern incarnations just don't do it for you, which characters are you still waiting for?

Titans Return actually knocked off a lot of characters who'd previously have been at the top of a list like this for me: Blaster, Blurr (via Takara) and especially all those 1987 Decepticons that came out as Deluxe figures. But there's still some members of the class of '87 that haven't been touched, including the Autobot Targetmasters. It was rumoured before that the last wave of Titans Return would bring us new versions of them, but that didn't happen. I'm actually a bit relieved that it didn't, because the rumour was that Crosshairs (one of my favourite Transformers ever on account of the original toy actually surviving my childhood) was rumoured to be a Kup repaint, and I don't think that'd work for him. I'm pretty sure that a new deluxe-class Crosshairs with the right silhouette and colours would make me happier than anything else the Generations line could bring out, right now. Hell, if Hasbro gave him the toy head and Takara did an anime head, like they've done for a lot of TR figures, I might actually buy both!

Also hailing from 1987, I'd absolutely love a new Grotusque! I actually think that TR Skullcruncher would have served as a good base for him, since they transform very similarly. But with Doublecross and (a tiny) Repugnus both making an appearance I'm actually surprised that we didn't get one.

Not as surprised as I am that we made it through a whole year's worth of Headmasters without a single Scorponok, though! I get that they're holding out on the character because they want to do a Titan, and that they boxed themselves in by doing a fan poll for the next one after Max without telling anyone that it would be a Headmaster. So as much as it disappoints me, I get why they didn't make him a Leader-class figure. But you'd think he'd have some representation in the line, even if it's just a Titan Master with a mini-vehicle. This one is actually pretty frustrating, because I know they're going to make one in the near future, but that it's going to be a two foot tall Titan figure that I'm not going to have any interest in owning.

Spinister, obviously, because this is me we're talking about. I know Funpub did a couple, and they're neat and all, but they're also expensive and not as good a representation of the character as a new mold would be.

And Bludgeon, of course. That probably sounds like a strange one because Hasbro has made a few Bludgeons lately. But the movie design (while cool) is very distinctively a movie design, and no matter how many third-party kits you put on it, it's still a movie figure that doesn't represent the classic Bludgeon. And the more recent figures (in the Prime and RiD lines) have both been based on the ROTF figure, so they don't really fit my expectations either. Heck, even the recent third-party Bludgeon is just another spin on the ROTF toy! I was momentarily excited to see his name on the leaked list of POTP figures, but then I saw he was a Prime Master, meaning that his first official Generations toy is going to be tiny and may actually be less complex than the original. That's not very helpful either.

I could go on all day, but Crosshairs, Grotusque, Scorponok, Spinister and Bludgeon are definitely the top five.
 
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Old 2017-08-31, 12:28 AM   #2
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There are so many...

The Multiforce/Landcross...
Dinoforce/Dinoking
Seacons/Piranacon
Trainbots/Raiden
Victory Leo
Titan class Scorponok
Impactor
Astrotrain

Legends Class versions of:
Outback
Pipes
Hubcap
Searchlight
Rollbar
Wideload
Freeway
Goldbug
Cliffjumper
Huffer

That's off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more that I want if I really went through a list of G1 TFs.
 
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Old 2017-08-31, 03:21 PM   #3
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There's plenty of G1 characters yet to do in the Generations line, but if the last couple of years are anything to go by, they'll get round to doing them sometime. It's amazing how many lesser known and obscure characters now have a modern toy representation.

The surprising thing to me is that IMO we have yet to have a good Generations release of either Optimus Prime or Megatron
 
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Old 2017-09-01, 04:29 PM   #4
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Legends Class versions of:
Outback
The recent leaks make it sound like you'll have this one sooner than later. Hopefully you like the TR Brawn mold!

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Hubcap
I'm really, really hoping that the reason why we got Chase instead of Cliffjumper in TR is because someone at Hasbro has finally decided that Cliffjumper is something more than cheap repaint fodder, and that he deserves his own distinct mold. Not so much for Cliffjumper's sake, but because I'd really like a Hubcap myself. And as long as Cliffjumper is reduced to being just a red repaint of Bumblebee, it's almost impossible that we'll ever get a Hubcap.

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There's plenty of G1 characters yet to do in the Generations line, but if the last couple of years are anything to go by, they'll get round to doing them sometime. It's amazing how many lesser known and obscure characters now have a modern toy representation.
It really is. Especially considering how much of it has come in just the last couple lines. Before Titans Return came along I think Hasbro had made accurate new figures for, what, four post-86 G1 guys? Thunderwing, his repaint Black Shadow, Scoop and Brainstorm are the only ones that come to mind. For the longest time characters from that era used for maybe a lazy repaint at best, and now we've gotten spot-on representations of more than twenty of them in about a year.

And Combiner Wars was just as good. After such a big portion of the fandom got up in arms over them making a non-combining Silverbolt and Onslaught in Universe, Hasbro shied away from those characters entirely beyond a brief foray with the FoC Combaticons. And then they're suddenly putting out Devastator, Superion, Menasor, Defensor and Bruticus in a single burst.

In both cases the biggest complaints about the line seem to be that we wanted more, which I think bodes well for Hasbro continuing to delve deeper into their character roster. I look forward to the day when I can find Generations toys of the likes of Rage, Skram, Jackpot, Leadfoot and Stalker on the shelves.

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The surprising thing to me is that IMO we have yet to have a good Generations release of either Optimus Prime or Megatron
It's less noticeable with Optimus because in the same timeframe he's gotten two really well-received MP figures, along with good figures in the Animated, Movie and Prime lines. And before that in the UT lines and RiD as well. And they all basically look like Optimus Prime. But there's so little consistency in Megatron's design that it's a lot more obvious that all of his Generations toys have either been bad toys, or decent toys that don't represent the character at all (like the IDW bomber or the WFC figure). But you're right, they've both fared poorly. The best Optimus we've gotten was the Classics Voyager, and it's firmly into "alright for its time" territory now.

Since it's been a decade or more since the Classics figure came out, I hope they'll revisit G2 Megatron some time soon. He'd make for a really solid Leader-class figure.
 
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Old 2017-09-01, 07:05 PM   #5
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Thunderwing, his repaint Black Shadow, Scoop and Brainstorm are the only ones that come to mind.
I'd still like to know how the **** Scoop got in there.

Dear God, was it Scoop that opened the floodgates? "Well Ian Hasbro, turns out Scoop was the most successful Generations toy by miles. Turns out the people love Scoop!" "Do they by jingo? Then let's mine that well! Monsterbots! Chase! Another Black Shadow, only this time we'll put him out before Thunderwing!"



The main toy I want is just a proper Nightbeat. Not a head. Not a Bumblebee repaint. I'll live with him sharing with Jazz if he must.
 
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Old 2017-09-01, 08:04 PM   #6
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I'd still like to know how the **** Scoop got in there.
I vaguely remember hearing that the process went something like this: We need a Construction vehicle in the line! -> No, we can't make one of the Constructicons! We're making a Devastator next year! -> No, we can't make Armada Scavenger, there's already too much Armada stuff in the wave! -> Screw it, just pick someone whose trademark we can get easily!

And so we got Scoop. Which was awesome! Except for the part where I had to paint a whole bunch of him because his yellow was anemic and they made the shovel orange. And also the part where his transformation is awful and his alt-mode doesn't hold together.

At least he looks good hanging out with TR toys.

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The main toy I want is just a proper Nightbeat. Not a head. Not a Bumblebee repaint. I'll live with him sharing with Jazz if he must.
Chromedome would have made a great base figure, if he has to be a repaint. The transformation and proportions are pretty close, just give him a new face and chestplate and you're good.
 
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Old 2017-09-04, 06:48 PM   #7
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I'd like to see some more Generations Beast Wars toys. After pooh-pooing them, I've been really impressed with Rhinox, Ratttrap and Waspinator, so it'd be nice to get some nice new versions of the 'Season 1' cast bodies - Tarantulas, Inferno and what have you.

I'd like to see Scorponok, so fingers crossed he comes out for Prime Wars. The Terrorcons and Predacons I'd like to see updated.

Some of the less obvious stuff from the European lines would be most welcome too. I liked that custom Stalker someone made Thew from the TR Hardhead mould was cool, so that would do if Hasbro want to give it a go!

I'd like a Ruckus and Crankcase also. And proper new Pretenders (not loads, maybe just the ones that had a decent showing in the comics - Skullgrin and so on), not those farty little Legends things we saw previewed for Prime Wars.
 
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Old 2017-09-05, 08:35 PM   #8
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I'd like to see some more Generations Beast Wars toys. After pooh-pooing them, I've been really impressed with Rhinox, Ratttrap and Waspinator, so it'd be nice to get some nice new versions of the 'Season 1' cast bodies - Tarantulas, Inferno and what have you.
Now that Masterpiece has started in on the BW cast, I'm curious if we'll see more Generations BW toys. I'd hope we do, because the previous Generations toys fit pretty well with the 90s figures in a way that the show-accurate MPs don't. I wouldn't mind seeing them take a swing at some of the later character designs, either. Rumour has it that we might get an Optimal Optimus in Power of the Primes, and that'd be a nice start. Dragon Megatron could do with being revisited too.

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I'd like to see Scorponok, so fingers crossed he comes out for Prime Wars. The Terrorcons and Predacons I'd like to see updated.
Sounds like you might be in luck, then!

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Some of the less obvious stuff from the European lines would be most welcome too. I liked that custom Stalker someone made Thew from the TR Hardhead mould was cool, so that would do if Hasbro want to give it a go!
A fair number of those Euro G1 characters would work as redecos/retools of more familiar characters, too. Stalker, like you say, is pretty close to the Hardhead pattern. Rotorstorm would match up well with any cockpit-chested helicopter. Flash and Scorch are basically Prowl and Trailbreaker. Rage and the other Stormtroopers are all basically just a Sideswipe or Hot Rod redeco away from reality. The small Predators all use the familiar seeker/Cyberjet arrangement.

At some point you'd have to figure they'll start showing up!

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Triggerbots/Triggercons would be neat. Hopefully in a form that maintains the spirit of the original gimmick without actually stuffing the toys full of spring-loaded pop-out guns.

I don't mind them doing some Pretenders in that tiny size class (in theory at least, they're a better fit than Headmasters were), but I'm disappointed that that's the only size class they're (apparently) going to show up in. The originals were across the entire size spectrum, from tiny little guys like the Pretender Monsters to gigantic multi-shelled monsters like Skyhammer and Roadblock, and I was hoping that's what we'd see if and when Hasbro eventually brought the concept back.
 
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Old 2017-09-05, 10:24 PM   #9
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Since it's been a decade or more since the Classics figure came out, I hope they'll revisit G2 Megatron some time soon. He'd make for a really solid Leader-class figure.
I was thinking that, as much as they put thought into molds doing double-duty with a bit of retooling, a voyager G2 Megatron would be a snap to turn into Impactor. Parts layout is the same, so they'd just need a new head, shoulder cannon, and hook hand.
 
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Old 2017-09-06, 03:40 PM   #10
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I've happily eaten crow over a number of things I'd sworn they would never make.
Same here. If you'd told me even three or four years ago that Hasbro would have done an entire line of nothing but Headmasters I would have laughed at you. Even Combiner Wars seemed outlandish when they first announced it.

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I was thinking that, as much as they put thought into molds doing double-duty with a bit of retooling, a voyager G2 Megatron would be a snap to turn into Impactor. Parts layout is the same, so they'd just need a new head, shoulder cannon, and hook hand.
That's a great point, actually. Big chest, boxy legs, shoulder cannon, tank alt-mode...it'd be a natural fit.

I always assume that a new G2 Megs would be Leader-class, because the 90s toy was so gargantuan compared to the rest of the G2 line that I always think of him as being massive, and he was pretty damn big in the G.I. Joe crossover too. But the design is simple enough that it would work fine as a Voyager, and I don't think he was any bigger than Optimus in the actual G2 comics.

But whatever size they make him, they need to steal the engineering from the Classics Deluxe that gave it a functional rotating turret! There's been way too many "tanks" in recent lines that are nothing but completely nonfunctional blocks.
 
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