[BW,BM] Tigahawk question
Tigahawk question
Just wondering, Is Tigerhawk technically an optimal robot as he is the combination of two sparks (just like Megs and Optimal Op) who are bothe considered to be Optimals.
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well what do you call tfs then that are the combination of two sparks?
they aint normal tfs as normal tfs only have one spark. Also even when they do take the other spark out the original spark is forever changed by this encounter (megs has a temper as is still seen in bm due to original megs spark and Optimus shows signs of the original optimus Prime (being able to speak with vector sigma)
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they aint normal tfs as normal tfs only have one spark. Also even when they do take the other spark out the original spark is forever changed by this encounter (megs has a temper as is still seen in bm due to original megs spark and Optimus shows signs of the original optimus Prime (being able to speak with vector sigma)
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"gestalts"Originally posted by Computron:
well what do you call tfs then that are the combination of two sparks?
There's only been one combination. Technically, I'd say he's a Fuzor, as the two sparks (supposedly) fused.
Optimus and Megatron merely carried their passenger sparks (if they'd fused, the wouldn't have been able to return them.)
This is in evidence as far as Optimus is concerned, by the fact that he carried it in his cockpit, far away from his own spark.
Tigerhawk. Optimal robot? Fuzor?
I´m having trouble accepting these definitions. Not without confusion at least. I´m not sure there´s anyone like him/her. The closest thing to Tigerhawk I could think of is God Jinrai from Masterforce. So there´s no good already existing definition IMHO.
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I´m having trouble accepting these definitions. Not without confusion at least. I´m not sure there´s anyone like him/her. The closest thing to Tigerhawk I could think of is God Jinrai from Masterforce. So there´s no good already existing definition IMHO.
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I agree with Brend. He is totally a fuzor, white crap tiger bird. However I never thought they used the term 'fuzor' to define when 2 sparks had fused together, more that 2 different stupid-looking shouldn't be put together under any circumstances animals had. The other fuzors don't have merged sparks, but seeing as Tigerhawk is a stupid combination of the 2 worst BW characters in existence, then that'd make him a fuzor.
As for a name for a tf with a combination of 2 or more sparks, then gestalt isn't a bad name for 'em really. I presume that when G1 gestalts are formed, like Superion for example, then the sparks of the Aerialbots are temporarily merged to give Superion a new personality. Well if they had thought about sparks in G1 then that's what I reckon happened anyway.
So I think Tigerhawk is a fuzor and a gestalt. A fuzor-gestalt tiger bird. I hate the stupid hermaphrodite anyway.
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As for a name for a tf with a combination of 2 or more sparks, then gestalt isn't a bad name for 'em really. I presume that when G1 gestalts are formed, like Superion for example, then the sparks of the Aerialbots are temporarily merged to give Superion a new personality. Well if they had thought about sparks in G1 then that's what I reckon happened anyway.
So I think Tigerhawk is a fuzor and a gestalt. A fuzor-gestalt tiger bird. I hate the stupid hermaphrodite anyway.
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Fuzors are tfs that their alt mode is fused out of two original life forms DNA, regardless of a spark.
A gestalt is formed out of the sparks of the members, creating a fuzed spark(that is if G1ers had sparks) with a new personality.
a TM2 is a tf that was transformed with the TM2 drive.
So yhea, Tiga'ho' is a gestalt fuzor thing, not sure about the TM2 though(just because the box says so, and that it was a trend for the other TFs at the time to become TM2, doesn't mean he automaticly is one as well).
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Maybe it's 'cause of all those punchs to my head, but I'm starting to see yer point.
A gestalt is formed out of the sparks of the members, creating a fuzed spark(that is if G1ers had sparks) with a new personality.
a TM2 is a tf that was transformed with the TM2 drive.
So yhea, Tiga'ho' is a gestalt fuzor thing, not sure about the TM2 though(just because the box says so, and that it was a trend for the other TFs at the time to become TM2, doesn't mean he automaticly is one as well).
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Well, all the others are a mesh of flesh and steel in both modes, and so is he. AND he was created by the Vok, just like the TM2-creating device.... I'd say he's a TM2Originally posted by sprites touch:
Fuzors are tfs that their alt mode is fused out of two original life forms DNA, regardless of a spark.
A gestalt is formed out of the sparks of the members, creating a fuzed spark(that is if G1ers had sparks) with a new personality.
a TM2 is a tf that was transformed with the TM2 drive.
So yhea, Tiga'ho' is a gestalt fuzor thing, not sure about the TM2 though(just because the box says so, and that it was a trend for the other TFs at the time to become TM2, doesn't mean he automaticly is one as well).
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plus he had spark powers which are custom to tm2's
anyway I actually think that optimal, megs and tigahawk are all something different from gestalts, fuzors etc..
For a start a Gestalt is able to return to normal once he has separated and the bw guys remain upgraded after they have combined. It was this term (that I simply call optimisation although I doubt it has any proper name but I can't really call it "that thing that happens when.....") that I was saying I think Tigahawk fits into
If I was forced to put Tigahawk into any catergory we have I would have to say he is a TM2 Fuzor
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anyway I actually think that optimal, megs and tigahawk are all something different from gestalts, fuzors etc..
For a start a Gestalt is able to return to normal once he has separated and the bw guys remain upgraded after they have combined. It was this term (that I simply call optimisation although I doubt it has any proper name but I can't really call it "that thing that happens when.....") that I was saying I think Tigahawk fits into
If I was forced to put Tigahawk into any catergory we have I would have to say he is a TM2 Fuzor
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*picks up SSG by the collar and dumps him back in the Car Robots/RiD forum.*
What's worse, I expect that from him.
TM2 Fuzor is the most accurate thing you can categorize him as. The fact that his spark is a fused version of Tigatron's and Airrazor's is simply extra. It's like TM2 Dinobot being a clone, it doesn't give him a sub group of any sort.
What's worse, I expect that from him.
TM2 Fuzor is the most accurate thing you can categorize him as. The fact that his spark is a fused version of Tigatron's and Airrazor's is simply extra. It's like TM2 Dinobot being a clone, it doesn't give him a sub group of any sort.
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What is G1?Originally posted by Pun-3X:
Common sense and a cut scene from the last ep state that G1 Megs was returned, or G1 never took place.
I still say Tigerhawk is a gestalt. The definition of the word gestalt is 'A physical, biological, psychological, or symbolic configuration or pattern of elements so unified as a whole that its properties cannot be derived from a simple summation of its parts'. It's Saturday night and I am looking up words in a dictionary - please help me. But it doesn't really matter that Tigerhawk can't un-combine, he's still a gestalt . I think?
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I thik Tigahawk was not 2 different sparks still seperate, but the aliens combined the sparks of tigatron and airrazor (I think i got names right), and that the sparks became fused into 1 spark, so its really just one spark that is twice as powerfull as normal sparks, with the combined personalities of both of them.
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