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Post by Hound » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:51 pm

I'm nearly done with G Gundam. I must say that the series gets much better when Domon gets to Neo Hong Kong and the final tournament starts.

Interesting to note that so far this is the only extended series that hasn't started with a young boy happening on a Gundam and somehow becoming the pilot.

Of course I haven't watched SEED and 00 yet.
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Post by Brave Maximus » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:40 am

SEED is a re-telling of the original MSG...ish, so yeah, boy gets stuck in a Gundam.

00 doesn't follow the "shoved into a gundam by fate" path. I quite enjoyed the series... but the end of the movie left a bad taste in my mouth, for some reason.
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Post by Sunstreaker2 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:21 am

The latest series suddenly became, well, GOOD with the second generation.
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Post by Knightdramon » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:52 am

SEED is fun to watch, not a bad series and lots of awesome gundam designs.

00 is my favourite in the franchise so far, but the movie did let me down in the end. Nonetheless, it's two hours of mecha porn!!!

Haven't bothered with AGE yet, I like the mecha designs but the character models do not appeal to me at all...
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Post by Cliffjumper » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:58 pm

Hound wrote:I finished Turn A and it was truly great start to finish. Didn't have a single bad episode. I loved every character throughout. There were no annoying toddlers running about for no reason.

I do have a question.

Did Loran and Dianna get married? I thought I saw a ring on her finger but it wasn't like they were acting like a married couple in the ending there.

Loved that ending BTW, Sochie had me tearing up.
Turn A's just superb top-to-bottom. The ending's fantastic because "Everyone lives, all more or less happily" is about the last thing you're expecting.

Lora's easily the best protagonist in any Gundam series - likeable to the point of being genuinely adorable. All of the characters are fantastic, and loads are very well developed - Poe, for example, looks like she's going to be a standard "loses every time" rubbish anime henchperson, then halfway through the series they add some real layers to her and Phil. I love Corin just because he's out of his tree - "GUUUUUUUNDAAAAAAAAM!!!!". And then there's Harry out-Charing Char. Best of all (maybe) is Guine, who should be a massive cock, but is so well developed you're glad that he survives.

The suits and animation are fabulous, but the soundboard really deserves a call-out - all of the battles just sound so great. And the music is something else - not just the theme tunes but the scoring as well, really captures the mix of low and high technology. And the references are so great as well - I cheered the first time the white doll starts legging it towards something dragging the bloody Gundam hammer behind it, and when the Borjanon Suicide Squad (best team name ever?) pop up with their Zakus.

With the ending, Loran's basically assexual and seems to basically marry Deanna so the pair of them can live out their days in peace and company.

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Post by Hound » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:56 pm

Cliffjumper wrote:Turn A's just superb top-to-bottom. The ending's fantastic because "Everyone lives, all more or less happily" is about the last thing you're expecting.
I know I was expecting Loran to be dead, and Dianna too, and especially Guine, but they just don't! Crazy...
Lora's easily the best protagonist in any Gundam series - likeable to the point of being genuinely adorable. All of the characters are fantastic, and loads are very well developed - Poe, for example, looks like she's going to be a standard "loses every time" rubbish anime henchperson, then halfway through the series they add some real layers to her and Phil. I love Corin just because he's out of his tree - "GUUUUUUUNDAAAAAAAAM!!!!". And then there's Harry out-Charing Char. Best of all (maybe) is Guine, who should be a massive cock, but is so well developed you're glad that he survives.
Agreeing with all of that. I was saying from the very beginning how unusual but great it was that every single character is likeable and cool in this thing. Even Corin's two goofy sidekicks aren't annoying and become great characters without him pretty quickly. It's awesome...
The suits and animation are fabulous, but the soundboard really deserves a call-out - all of the battles just sound so great. And the music is something else - not just the theme tunes but the scoring as well, really captures the mix of low and high technology. And the references are so great as well - I cheered the first time the white doll starts legging it towards something dragging the bloody Gundam hammer behind it, and when the Borjanon Suicide Squad (best team name ever?) pop up with their Zakus.
I'm actually not a fan of the suit designs. They aren't terrible, but they aren't great either, just my opinion. The music and sound though I agree a 100% with. Loved the Gundam hammer too. I wish my RX-78-2 model had come with it. Came with everything else...
With the ending, Loran's basically assexual and seems to basically marry Deanna so the pair of them can live out their days in peace and company.
Yeah, he seems to be more her caretaker than her husband and it doesn't actually tell you why she's sick either. Unless I missed something.

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Post by Jaynz » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:47 am

Brave Maximus wrote:SEED is a re-telling of the original MSG...ish, so yeah, boy gets stuck in a Gundam.
Well, one thing about Destiny that's a little positive is that Shinn is actually assigned as the Impulse Gundam pilot. (Impulse and Destiny, damn if his Gundams weren't aptly named... not even subtle). Kira is at least shown to be a competent mobile suit expert before getting the Strike at least.. he's just not in the military.
00 doesn't follow the "shoved into a gundam by fate" path. I quite enjoyed the series... but the end of the movie left a bad taste in my mouth, for some reason.
I want to enjoy 00 more, and it was the first series in awhile to show the United States in a more positive light (SEED's director is, let's face it, a huge bigot and it showed in his two series).. but there was too much angst and ennui with the characters and the only one that I really liked... got replaced by his insanely identical twin. Feh.

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Post by Hound » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:31 pm

Finished G Gundam yesterday and am back to watching Gundam X.

Nice ending. I gotta say I loved the second half of this one. It was really good. Almost like the writers got changed after 24 episodes...

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Post by Knightdramon » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:00 pm

Watching Gundam Age. Just finished the first episode.

Started watching because of the unique enemy mobile suits and the fact that I really, really like how simple and neat the AGE is.

From what I've read it gets really good later on, but I'm not that impressed so far. It followed the basic gundam formula to the letter.

Boy has a tragic past with mobile suits
Boy has some connection to the gundam mobile type, which is untested
Enemy mobile suits attack
Chaos ensues, grunt suits fall like nothing
Gundam awakens, beats up enemy with nothing but beam sabre\dagger.

Hmmm...
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Post by Hound » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:56 pm

I have heard it gets better in the second era but that the first part was kind of "bleh". Maybe the third era will be just amazing and make the whole thing worthwhile. Hopefully...

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Post by relak » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:34 pm

ah a Gundam thread. Dont mind i jump in.

Me heap big Gundam fan

Watched everything from the original 1979 series to 00 and have every R1 Gundam DVD.

Alas i didnt quite like the SEED series or G as much as the others.

My top few are
1) 08th Ms Team
2) Gundam Unicorn
3) Gundam 0083: Stardust Memories
4) Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket

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Post by Knightdramon » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:24 pm

Up to episode 11 of Gundam AGE. Been watching UK and US series for so long I forgot the sweetness of 22 minutes episodes.

Not as bad as I thought, mildly entertaining and it does break the norm of other military-esque gundam shows. One of the best ship captains so far, beats the crap out of Sumeragi and Murrue of the last gundam shows.

I'm probably getting closer to the final battle and era-change, let's see how that turns out.
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Post by Hound » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:46 pm

I just finished watching Gundam X today and I liked it a lot.

It had an ok story, good characters and great mobile suits.

The only thing I didn't like was that the big conflict at the end was seemingly all about a differing opinion of what a Newtype was. There should have been a couple more episodes I think. They could have made the ending a little more dramatic.

I loved the characters in this one. Especially Garrod, Tiffa and Jamille. They were fantastic.

Also love the Gundam X and Double X. Beautiful suits.
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Post by relak » Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:49 pm

Hound wrote:I just finished watching Gundam X today and I liked it a lot.

It had an ok story, good characters and great mobile suits.

The only thing I didn't like was that the big conflict at the end was seemingly all about a differing opinion of what a Newtype was. There should have been a couple more episodes I think. They could have made the ending a little more dramatic.

I loved the characters in this one. Especially Garrod, Tiffa and Jamille. They were fantastic.

Also love the Gundam X and Double X. Beautiful suits.
Well gundam X was a victim of being prematurely cancelled. Hence why the last few eps seem rushed.

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Post by Jaynz » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:33 pm

Hound wrote:Also love the Gundam X and Double X. Beautiful suits.
Even though I'm not sold on their main gimmick (the backpack collectors), I do like their overall designs. There are a bunch of pretty solid Gundams in that series, actually, though each seems to have a bizzare 'semi-transform' gimmick that winds up hurting them a little.

The Airmaster pair, though, are two fairly nice "Transform" Gundams. I'm a bit surprised that they don't get more love. I see a lot on the leads, the Virsago, and even the Leopard...

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Post by Hound » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:18 am

I took a long break from Gundam but have now started watching 00. I'm only 3 episodes in but it's ok. Female looking males is a little disturbing and confusing but that's minor I suppose.

I've gotten a few new kits recently. Well kinda, they're the cheap 1/144 kits, so I'm not sure I really count them. Still they are decent I guess. I've got the Sandrock and Shenlong from Gundam Wing. These small, cheap kits are about all I can afford right now. I got the MG Epyon for Xmas last year so I figure I'll get the rest of the Wing Gundams in this smaller, cheaper format.

It's the UC Gundams I really want anyway and I'll not be settling for anything less than HG on those. Though I did get a Guntank, and it's one of those 1/200 High Complete figures. I like it even though it's pretty small but now I have to get a Guncannon. :)

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Post by relak » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:08 am

Hound wrote:I took a long break from Gundam but have now started watching 00. I'm only 3 episodes in but it's ok. Female looking males is a little disturbing and confusing but that's minor I suppose.

:)
Lol, I thought female looking males were a staple of AU Gundam series since Wing. Though Seed and 00 have it worst

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Post by Hound » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:47 pm

relak wrote:Lol, I thought female looking males were a staple of AU Gundam series since Wing. Though Seed and 00 have it worst
00 is the only one I've noticed it in. Haven't watched SEED yet though. Well aside from Loran in Turn A but that was on purpose. I'm pretty sure that I heard somewhere that Loran was supposed to be female but that Bandai stepped in and said that there had to be a male lead in the series so Tomino making him androgynous was kind of a middle finger to Bandai or something like that. Much of Turn A was like that I think.

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Post by Sunstreaker2 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:23 am

Go buy Robot Damashii Wing Gundam Zero. You fools.

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Post by relak » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:45 am

Hound wrote:00 is the only one I've noticed it in. Haven't watched SEED yet though. Well aside from Loran in Turn A but that was on purpose. I'm pretty sure that I heard somewhere that Loran was supposed to be female but that Bandai stepped in and said that there had to be a male lead in the series so Tomino making him androgynous was kind of a middle finger to Bandai or something like that. Much of Turn A was like that I think.
And it sure doesnt help that those japanese tend to cast according to how a character looks rather than who the character is.

If the guy has more feminine features, chances are he'll be voiced by a woman thus further heightening the "girly man" feel.

One of the reasons why i've prefered to watch Gundam in english.

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