When everyone says it's crap... but you think it's good!

[Auntie Slag]

I like Megatron: Origin.

The artwork is indecipherable, the script is loose. Sentinel Prime looks different in every panel. The laws of physics do not apply anywhere... but I like it for giving Megatron something other than being an oaf hungry for power for the sake of being hungry for power. I like it because it lent a little more character to someone I usually loathe, and I'd only seen this flash of him a couple of times before, in 'The Enemy Within' (Simon Furman's first story for Transformers), and when he acted Dolly Parton off the screen in Steel Magnolias.

I actually like him, after twenty sodding years of not caring about the chief bad guy it made me start to rally. I think twice about Optimus now, especially following his mentalist killathon in the Bay movies. All Megatron did was kill movie Jazz and flick a human away. What's bad about that?

Sod Mr. Prime. Bloody do-gooder.

Is there anything you love that seems to be universally ridiculed? It can be for the most spurious of reasons.

[inflatable dalek]

I'd say Megatron is at his most oafish in M:O, half his dialogue seems to be "Huh", he spends all day in a tunnel digging rock before going into wrestling and his gun gets a more dramatic secret origin than he does. Mind, I've just started rereading it (for my shame I've picked up the first of those hardback collections as it was cheap and I'm getting rid of my comics soon. I'll just disguise it as something less embarrassing than an IDW book, like a hardcore Portuguese goat porn collection) so maybe I'll find some hidden depth.

80's Doctor Who. The general consensus amongst the British public seems to be everything after Tom Baker left was "Crap" and Sylvester McCoy is some sort of devil. I make it my life's mission to tell them they're wrong.

[Auntie Slag]

He is an oaf, but an oaf that believes in something. He didn't seem to believe in anything prior to this other than beating up Prime.

And he's a proper wrongun' too, remember Fastback and Bumper? Carly wouldn't have uttered a word in the third film if she'd seen what he got up to in Megatron: Origin.

[inflatable dalek]

Because she'd have been too busy trying to work out exactly what the hell was going on with the art. And why Fastback was blatantly a miscoloured Outback.


Superman III. Yes, Richard Prior is terrible, but is compensated for by Robert Vaughn being a much better Lex Luthor than the actual movie Lex Luthor was and the awesome two Supermen bits.

Batman Forever, tends to get lumped with the fourth one (which also isn't as bad as it's reputation, no its not very good but it's great for very young kids and the way it tends to top worst film ever made polls suggest the people compiling them haven't seen many films) but is in fact a lot of bright, cheerful fun with streams of quotable lines.

[Cliffjumper]

Later Simpsons. They're not quite as funny, but only posers would claim they're outright poor. Typical knee-jerk twattery.

"Huh, I prefer whichever hip animated series includes f-words and tasteless sex jokes, but only for the first three seasons, then I'll claim it's jumped the shark, pretend I never liked it and moved onto the next one."

[Auntie Slag]

The Dungeons & Dragons film. Its got a Wayans Brother, its terribly acted, the special effects are ropey. But its got a certain crap charm.
An utterly crap charm, mind. Hidden under fifteen tonnes of filthy garbage.

And while I'm at it, I also love Garfield: The movie. A fat cat with Bill Murray's voice. It is complete tripe, but worth it for one or two scenes, and Garfield's 'New Dog State of Mind' song.

This is stuff I love with infinite time on my hands. Should I contract something horrible I wouldn't waste nanoseconds thinking about watching this arse.

[Notabot]

Microwave burritos. When you find a good kind (even the cheapo Walmart ones), get the cooking time down right, and put sour cream and Taco Bell packets on them, they're not just a passable lunch, but downright good.

[Sades]

Following up on the above: Eating the occasional microwave burrito without heating it up. Tasty and hasn't killed me yet.

I like Community, but I haven't been watching/talking about it long enough to hear any negative stuff about it.

[Auntie Slag]

Jackie Brown seemed to get a right pasting from Tarantino fans, but I thought it was one of his best.

In contrast I thought Kill Bill was stylised crap. I'll watch it again though just to make sure. I've probably seen so many awful films in the last few years that Kill Bill may seem like high art.

[systems113]

yes ,it is very good
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Ray Ban Aviators
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. And there are so cheap!

[inflatable dalek]

Dungeons and Dragons is actually a strong contender for the worst film I have ever seen. Auntie Slag, you are innnnsssssssaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnneeeeeeee.

[Sades]

Aunty

I liked the old version better. Wait, wrong thread...

[inflatable dalek]

You know what I think is good? The edit button. Don't know why I mentioned that.

[Rurudyne]

Dungeons and Dragons is actually a strong contender for the worst film I have ever seen. Auntie Slag, you are innnnsssssssaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnneeeeeeee.

Even as bad as Highlander II?!?

Anyhoo, yesterday I was watching History channel and they were talking about experimental surgeries in Russia and the US where monkey heads transplanted (the US) or a dog got an extra head added (Russia) and I realized that somewhere someone actually must have liked the episode: Spock's Brain.

As for me, I'm easily entertained so I probably like many things just so long as they aren't horribly bad. The Dungeons and Dragons cartoon show is one example ... I've even go an old D&D Tiamat action figure around here somewhere.

[DrSpengler]

"Alien III". There was a lot about this film that I liked. It was, yes, the worst of the trilogy (there are no Alien films after it!), but it the Dog-Alien was really cool (especially the acid-spitting and wall crawling), I dug the setting and cinematography, the effects were generally good and I had no problem with Ripley's death.

Yeah, it sucked that they couldn't get Michael Biehn and the little girl back and killed them off unceremoniously, but when you can't get the actors to agree to a contract whaddayagonnado? That always seems to be the major complaint, that and "wah wah the teaser trailer said the Aliens were coming to Earth and they DIDN'T!" Hasn't it been long enough for people to just get the Hell over that and try to enjoy the movie on its own merits?

It's not a great movie but I always found it enjoyable and didn't know it was considered god-awful in every conceivable way until the internet happened.

I remember when I used to have a job reviewing movies, I mentioned at the AllSpark that I thought "Alien 3" was alright and holy crap suddenly I was disqualified from having an opinion and should have been immediately fired from my job, according to them.

So yeah, I think "Alien 3" is alright.

[inflatable dalek]

Yeah, it sucked that they couldn't get Michael Biehn and the little girl back and killed them off unceremoniously, but when you can't get the actors to agree to a contract whaddayagonnado?

In fairness though, they weren't even asked. And Beihn claims to have been paid more for the use of his picture than he was for Aliens (even allowing for exageration they don't seem to have been that stingy with the cash).

I find Alien 3 more interesting than I do good, there's a lot to admire but not a lot to love. The assembly cut works much better (though I actually like the dog buster more) but the making of shinanigans is more exciting than anything that made it in the film.

[Sunstreaker2]

Robocop 2.

It's not a good movie, sure, but it has its moments. And the plot at least attempts to be a logical follow up to the first film.

[zigzagger]

Fantasia 2000. Maybe it's because of the Firebird piece (edit: oh, okay, the Pomp and Circumstance one, too). True, the original is impressive when you consider all the work that went into creating the thing and, yeah, it's a classic, but I thought "2000" was much more diverse both artistically and musically. It doesn't necessarily make it better, but I appreciate it for that.

Big Fish. Most people I know thought the movie was a bore. I liked it. Though, that may be in part because it reminded me of my grandpa.

Since IDW has come up a couple times already (here and in the sister thread), I thought I'd add my own to the pile. Looking back on it, yes, Devastation was indeed a bloody ****ing mess, but for me Issue #3 was one of the scant few gems of that series/arc/whatever-the-hell-you-wanna-call-it. I loved Ratchet and Sixshot's little game of cat and mouse, I thought it was blast. Most folks, however, thought it was superfluous and/or could've easily been cut out...annnnd they'd be right to think that, but for whatever reason I still enjoy it even if the Furmanverse went tits up in the end.

Later Simpsons. They're not quite as funny, but only posers would claim they're outright poor. Typical knee-jerk twattery.

My response to the recent stuff, if I happen to catch it on hulu or wherever, is usually about the same - "cute". No, not in the stereotypical squealing school girl sort of way, but, you know, cute, endearing. Nothing wrong with that. It shouldn't have to (or need to) be another South Park or American Dad -- which I also like, even if the former occasionally gets caught up in its own pretensions.

"Alien III". There was a lot about this film that I liked. It was, yes, the worst of the trilogy......

I find Alien 3 more interesting than I do good, there's a lot to admire but not a lot to love.....

A little bit of both here. Nice to know I'm not the only one. It's flawed to be sure, but I like Alien 3, and even stranger, I prefer the slower paced bits more than the action. The slow build approach is what drew me to the original Alien trilogy to begin with and I felt the third film had a few good moments of that.

[DrSpengler]

Fantasia 2000. Maybe it's because of the Firebird piece (edit: oh, okay, the Pomp and Circumstance one, too). True, the original is impressive when you consider all the work that went into creating the thing and, yeah, it's a classic, but I thought "2000" was much more diverse both artistically and musically. It doesn't necessarily make it better, but I appreciate it for that.

"Fantasia 2000" is fantastic and I find it, on the whole, to be far more rewatchable than the original thanks to the breadth and diversity of the segments. For the original "Fantasia", I often find myself only watching particular numbers and rarely the entire film in one solid sitting.

I didn't think "Fantasia 2000" was unpopular. It's not like the other Disney sequels like "Fox and the Hound 2" or "Cinderella 3" or whatever. It's actually a part of the Animated Classics Canon (as they call it), wasn't outsourced to Korea for the animation and is as good both visually, artistically and musically as any of the Disney's best stuff (well, some of the CG in it is a little rough, but this was the year 2000 we're talking about).

The bluray is gorgeous.

[Auntie Slag]

The 1997 CGI'd updates to the original Star Wars trilogy. I think they're great and am happy with the idea of George Lucas messing about with his own creations to make them closer to the vision he originally wanted.

I grew up on the trilogy and appreciate most of (but not all) the changes he's made. Cleaning it up to make it look almost like a recently released film was great, and adding in dewbacks and X-wings is ace.