There might be... Alternator Jets!

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There might be... Alternator Jets!

Post by Arcee » Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:15 am

From Seibertron.com's Prime Nova:
Hasbro has shown samples of the 2005 line to retail buyers. (those are the folks that purchase the items their store will offer to sell, which is usually a corperate-wide position.)


Among the items shown were the Cybertron toys we've already seen via Galaxy Force. There will be more "Primes" later on down the line, besides the fire truck, female race car & dragon that we have already seen. Later toys were shown by illustration, as no prototypes were available yet. Among them: a deluxe scale cheetah.


And they were shown plans for Alternators 2005. Among them: "Suzuka Blue Metallic" repaint of Windcharger. No word on the identity and a deep red pick-up truck. No word on the make or model of the truck. And plans are being made to expand the line to the $30 price point with 1/72 scale aircraft. Average wingspan/rotor 8-10 inches.


No Universe toys were shown, and the only all-plastic redecos were as part of the Cybertron line as case filler and in the form of two store exclusives. (They did not show other store's exclusives to this buyer, obviously, so they may be more than this from other retailers.)


Hasbro will offer comic book pack-in sets a`la their recent GI Joe 3-packs. All four two-packs shown will feature a full sized comic book from Dreamwave. They will be from various series, including one that has never aired in the USA. No price yet, but the toys shown were basic & deluxe scale.


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Post by Grimlock2983 » Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:06 am

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Post by Civ » Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:31 am

1:72? Wow. So they would be three times the size of the regular BT chars, which means they would be even larger than MP Convoy or possibly Fortress/Brave Maximus. That would be an impressive sight to see, but unrealistic considering the packaging would have to be mammoth-sized just to fit them and the cost would be outrageous.
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Post by Clay » Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:52 am

1:72 means it would take 72 toy jets to equal the length/width of a real jet.

1:24 means it takes 24 toy cars to equal the length/width of a real car.

1:72 is a smaller scale than 1/24, but it means the robot modes will be comparable.

Real jets are BIG. Remember that when considering scale sizes.

Also, WHOO! :D

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Post by Tempest » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:21 am

Ya, I thought they had to do something like that, the scale would have t obe different. However this raises an old question that has been around. Combiners. The reason they couldn't do it was because the middle one would be to huge and wouldn't stay in with the 1:24, well they could make (rough guess) 1:32/36 ones.

Its a world of possibilties! Unless its a very very cruel joke.

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Post by Scarrita » Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:21 pm

'Bout time we get some original Decepticon designs. I wonder what jets they'll be, Raptors maybe?
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Post by dedicon » Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:26 pm

To be honest,if it was me i'd do the 3 origianl seekers the same mould,the 3 coneheads another mould and a third plane for...Megatron.

But no matter what,this is good news.I am a big fan of jets and planes.So me happy:)
Really want the original(basic) Rattrap's gun. Please PM me if you have one you might spare!

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Post by RID Scourge » Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:16 pm

Originally posted by dedicon
and a third plane for...Megatron.


Ooh, a Machine Wars homage . . . I like. :up:

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Post by Random Sweep » Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:06 pm

I thing that a tank would suit megs better
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Post by RID Scourge » Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:57 pm

Yeah, but that's thinking inside the box.

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Post by Civ » Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:59 pm

Originally posted by Clay
1:72 means it would take 72 toy jets to equal the length/width of a real jet.

1:24 means it takes 24 toy cars to equal the length/width of a real car.

1:72 is a smaller scale than 1/24, but it means the robot modes will be comparable.

Real jets are BIG. Remember that when considering scale sizes.

Also, WHOO! :D


**palmsmacks his own head and runs his hand down his face.**

This is what I get for not being clearer.

I realize what the scales mean. I meant if they kept the 1:24 scale, the jets would be 3 times the height of the BT/Alt cars.
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Post by Random Sweep » Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:04 pm

Originally posted by RID Scourge
Yeah, but that's thinking inside the box.


Yeah but I like the box... The box is comfortable
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Post by Civ » Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:10 pm

I think Megatron should be an Alternator puppy. Just think about it for a moment. An unsuspecting human walks up to an innocent looking puppy, then WHAM! I think it could work.
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Post by Civ » Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:10 pm

I hate my comp.
I hate my comp.
I hate my comp.
I hate my comp.

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Can one of the mods or admins please delete this post?

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Post by Denyer » Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:10 pm

Among them: a deluxe scale cheetah.
What's the fascination with oversized Cheetors?

Ooo, jets. Could be fun.

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Post by RID Scourge » Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:37 pm

I'm wondering if it's just a Supreme Cheetor repaint, or something . . .
Originally posted by Civ
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Post by Roadstripe » Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:25 pm

Quoth Denyer:
What's the fascination with oversized Cheetors?

Wouldn't deluxe-size be standard scale for Cheetors? All the BW Cheetors were deluxes as was Night Slash Cheetor. That's four Deluxe Cheetors versus one Mega and one Supreme.

Interesting tidbit, though. Could this mean that, in Cybertron, Unicron's four Horsemen (the four deluze-sized Transmetal repaints in Armada) will still play a part, though in new bodies?


Quoth Arcee:
And plans are being made to expand the line to the $30 price point with 1/72 scale aircraft. Average wingspan/rotor 8-10 inches.

What can I say, but - my wallet is going to hate me even more. :D:up:


At 1/24 scale, an F-15 jet-type Starscream would be about 21 inches high in robot mode. Not as high as Fortress Meximus, but close. At 1/72 scale, Starscream would be about the same height as the Alternators cars.
That seems small to me at first, but one should remember that the Alternators are being made to common model scales. Another common aircraft scale, 1/32, would yield a Starscream about 14 inches high, making him not just unwieldy for packaging, but he would tower inappropriately over Masterpiece Prime.
At 1/48 scale, our hypothetical Starscream would be a reasonable 10 inches high, in proper proportion in robot mode to both Prime and the Alternators. However, this size would probably be too expensive for Hasbro/Takara to produce and package.

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Post by Skystream » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:38 pm

Oooh, good news indeed! :) Come to think of it, wasn't there a thread in Toy Discussions where people were saying they didn't think Alternators would expand the line? :rolleyes: Let's hope they're proved wrong. If they are, then I'm gonna end up a whole lot poorer... but hey, who cares about that.

And another thing that's got me intrigued:
a deep red pick-up truck


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Post by RID Scourge » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:59 pm

I'm hoping it gets repainted as scourge. They could just replace the head with 20th Prime's head, even if they have to shorten it a bit.

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Post by Knightdramon » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:29 pm

Oh great. BT line expands to airplane designs = empty wallet.

I am hoping for Thundercracker to come out first. There are enough black decepticons for now [dead end AND jaguar], but no blue ones.

Even though I stopped buying bt autobots [too much money required, heh. Let's stick to their cooler remoulds], I'll definitely get Ironhide. He and Tracks were the two toys I dreamed of getting when I was younger [only got Ironhide, BT Tracks filled the empty space]

Let's not talk about remoulds of the red truck, we haven't even seen the original plans.
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