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Revenge of the Fallen SPOILER discussion thread - expect SPOILERS inside!

Post by Nevermore » Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:43 pm

The movie's out in the UK (and very soon other parts of the world) so it's time to move this discussion over to the movie forum:

http://tfarchive.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=58

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This is going to be a tough one.

Whereas this thread is about officially revealed information for the Revenge of the Fallen movie, the thread you are currently viewing is for SPOILER info. That means you can freely discuss the leaked info, rumors and whatever else surrounding this movie without any spoiler warnings - mostly.

When you feel that a leaked piece of news contains a MAJOR plot spoiler, use spoiler tags. Since it's hard to measure what constitutes a "major plot spoiler", my suggestion would be to use reasonable restraint.

Feel free to refer to news from official sources in this thread too if it relates to leaked/rumored info.

A summary of leaked and rumored info will follow later.
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Post by Rattrap's tail » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:10 pm

I'll start with something:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZy57S-d4ec

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Post by Nevermore » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:49 pm

Toys generally go in the "toys" therad, unless you're specifically deducing movie-related guesses based on the toys.

Since we currently assume "Detour" to be a toy-only character, he wouldn't belong in here at all.
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Post by Rack 'n Ruin » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:46 am

A couple of questions about rumours I've lost track of...
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I'm probably way out of the loop on this one, but has anyone heard any more regarding the possible inclusion on Wheeljack in ROTF? I seem to recall he was briefly rumoured to be a Saab of some sort.

Also, any more gossip on Barricade coming back as an Audi R8?
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Post by Rattrap's tail » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:59 am

Rack 'n Ruin wrote:A couple of questions about rumours I've lost track of...
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I'm probably way out of the loop on this one, but has anyone heard any more regarding the possible inclusion on Wheeljack in ROTF? I seem to recall he was briefly rumoured to be a Saab of some sort.

Also, any more gossip on Barricade coming back as an Audi R8?
@Nevs: Ok then. I did not know that Detour was assumed to be a toy-only figure.

@R'nR: About Wheeljack is nothing heard. The Saab you are meaning is The Areo X concept-car and their were indeed some rumors about that thing starring in the movie, but no news about that at all. Barricade is presumably still hiding because there's no news on the guy.
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To be honest, I don't even want him to become a R8. If he has some kind of taste he should take the form of a Lamborghini if you tell me.

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Post by borg72 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:51 pm

Rattrap's tail wrote: Barricade is presumably still hiding because there's no news on the guy.
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To be honest, I don't even want him to become a R8. If he has some kind of taste he should take the form of a Lamborghini if you tell me.
not true at all... barricades car (plus stunt doubles) was seen at the start of filming being moved around on the back of a trailer, along with prime's truck. presumably he appears in this form, even if only briefly. maybe a flasback, who knows? there were pictures on a blog somewhere. hardly seems worth the hastle moving three cars on the back of a flatbed purely for the heck of it (as the move wasn't publicised).
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and isnt the aero-x on the cover of one of the IDW movie-related comics? or was that another concept car? hardly proof of movie inclusion, unless its the adaptation and not prequel/sequel, but make of it what you will.

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Post by numbat » Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:59 pm

Rattrap's tail wrote:Barricade is presumably still hiding because there's no news on the guy.
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To be honest, I don't even want him to become a R8. If he has some kind of taste he should take the form of a Lamborghini if you tell me.
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Weren't there some really cool leaked designs of a 'new' robot mode that looked remarkably like Barricade with a new alt mode way back when? Were those discredited?

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Post by Summerhayes » Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:42 pm

numbat wrote:
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Weren't there some really cool leaked designs of a 'new' robot mode that looked remarkably like Barricade with a new alt mode way back when? Were those discredited?
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Was this the Japanese/ Chinese police car?
I'm not convinced that needed spoilering, but Numbat spoilered

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Post by numbat » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:58 pm

I'm not really sure what needs spoilering these days.

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So I have been erring on the side of caution.

I figure the possible inclusion of any particular speculative character may be counted as a spoiler by some folks.

But, then, I'm not quite sure why you'd be checking in here at this late stage if you weren't looking for spoilers to discuss (so I'm probably being daft?).

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Post by Nevermore » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:35 pm

numbat wrote:
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Weren't there some really cool leaked designs of a 'new' robot mode that looked remarkably like Barricade with a new alt mode way back when? Were those discredited?
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It was the Audi R8 seen in the Wal*Mart video from the first day of shooting at Bethlehem Steel.
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Post by numbat » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:38 pm

I was checking out the Empire magazine cover (mentioned in the Official News thread already) while waiting for a train today. The image of
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battle damaged Optimus Prime
looks totally awesome!

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Post by Rattrap's tail » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:09 am

borg72 wrote:not true at all... barricades car (plus stunt doubles) was seen at the start of filming being moved around on the back of a trailer, along with prime's truck. presumably he appears in this form, even if only briefly. maybe a flasback, who knows? there were pictures on a blog somewhere. hardly seems worth the hastle moving three cars on the back of a flatbed purely for the heck of it (as the move wasn't publicised).
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and isnt the aero-x on the cover of one of the IDW movie-related comics? or was that another concept car? hardly proof of movie inclusion, unless its the adaptation and not prequel/sequel, but make of it what you will.
I don't read comics but as far as my knowledge goes at this hour, I only know about the new Chevy Volt, the Corvette c7 concept, the Chevy tracks and his ugly brown SUV-ish sibling as concept-cars. The Areo-X was as far as I known only mentioned by vaque sources, rumours and the beginning of the filming. Later it was able to just Dissappear in the opposite way he was able to come; he was simply forgotten. I am not spoilering this one'cause I don't think its necceseary and because I am a bit confused about what I should and shoulden't spoil.

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Post by secretcode » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:32 am

From the Toy thread, this is an updated list of possible Robotic characters.
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RETURNING MOVIE CHARACTERS
- Optimus Prime
- Ratchet
- Bumblebee
- Ironhide
- Barricade? (Possible Audi R8)
- Starscream
- Megatron (Now a Cybertronian Tank)

RETURNING MOVIE (OTHER MEDIA) CHARACTERS
- Arcee

NEW CHARACTERS
- Sideswipe (Chevy Corvette Centennial
- Skids? (Chevy Beat)
- ?????? (Chevy Trax)
- Jolt (Chevy Volt)
- Jetfire (Blackbird)
- Wheels (RC Car/Go-Cart)
- "The Twins" (Ice Cream Truck)
- Soundwave (Satellite, Pick-Up?)
- The Fallen
- Ravage
- Devastator
(Seven Vehicle Modes)
O&K/Terex RH400 Hydrolic Mining Excavator (red)
Caterpillar 992G Wheel Loader (yellow)
Caterpillar 773B Dump Truck (green)
Mack Cement Mixer (silver/white)
Komatsu HD465-7 Articulated Dump Truck (red)
Kobelco CK2500 Truss Crane (yellow)
Caterpillar D9L Bulldozer (beige)

MISC. CARS (Transformers or Not)
- Chevy Malibu Police Car (Prowl?)
- NEST Hummers
- Saturn Astra

RUMORED BOTS
- Wheeljack (Saab Aero-X)
- Unnamed Pretender (Alice/Isabel Lucas)

TOY ONLY
- Springer (Osprey)
- Dead End
- Knockout
- Rollbar
- Dirt Boss
- Boat
- Wreckage (Green)
- Skywarp
- Ramjet
- Whirl
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Post by Brimstone » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:52 pm

What about:
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Sideswipe? (Chevy Corvette)
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Post by secretcode » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:15 pm

Huh. He was on the rough draft, but he disappeared. =\ Fixed.
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Post by secretcode » Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:34 pm

Movie Poster Revealed?
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj13 ... 5789/l.jpg

Possible Massive Spoilers
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Fallen possibly revealed, as it matches the leaked box art.
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Post by borg72 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:11 am

secretcode wrote:Movie Poster Revealed?
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj13 ... 5789/l.jpg

Possible Massive Spoilers
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Fallen possibly revealed, as it matches the leaked box art.
we already somewhat assumed that the original image was what we thought it was before this new matching (if very much more graphically detailed) image surfaced today. hardly a spoiler, as it doesn't tell us anything we didn't know.

it still looks uber-cool though.

and good to see we're finally getting *some* marketing. fingers crossed for that hoped-for superbowl advert.

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Post by ismellicecream » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:37 am

Heres a higher res version of the teaser:
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2008/BigTrannie2.jpg

(dont be put off by the jpeg filename) :lol:
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I'm not reading anything into this, just an observation, but dont you think the head crest is a little soundwave-like?

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Post by borg72 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:25 pm

indeed, we have a superbowl trailer! feb 1st (isn't that a bit late for the superbowl? i thought it was normally mid-late january?).

i'll be staying up to watch (and we'll see if i can NOT fall asleep at the end of the third quarter *again*), not that we get the american adverts or anything over here :(

hopefully yahoo (or whoever) will get an official version up at much the same time (didn't they have that exclusive version the last time round with cullens voice at the end? wonder if they'll do something similar this time round?)

as reported on seibertron (can you tell i've added their news feed to my reader?) i'd link, but it really doesn't tell you anything more than that.

EDIT: for link, see secretcodes post two after mine. my apologies, but i only had the aforementioned seibertron rss feed. and i was tired. do i get lines, or should i go straight to the headmasters office?

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Post by Brimstone » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:53 pm

I thought the same thing when I saw the first image post, ismellicecream.
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