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Transformers: More than Meets the Eye #34

Post by zigzagger » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:45 pm

Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye #34 three-page preview by way of iTunes.
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Post by Warcry » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:12 pm

Why is Bluestreak coloured different every single time he appears? Last time I recall seeing him, in MTMTE #28, he had his normal, all-grey colour scheme. Not only is it silly on principle, but it's damned confusing considering how many other guys share his body type. Half the time he winds up looking more like Smokescreen than the person he's supposed to be -- which is exactly what happens on the first page of the preview.

Other than that I'm intrigued by the prospect of seeing these four starring for an issue, though I think Mainframe and Trailbreaker should disappear at some point?

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Post by Unicron » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:34 pm

Warcry wrote:Other than that I'm intrigued by the prospect of seeing these four starring for an issue, though I think Mainframe and Trailbreaker should disappear at some point?
Last panel on page one mentions disappearing people, disappearing shuttles, people floating in space. So I assume this is after the whole Lost Light vanishing bit.

Last panel page 2: Is that First Aid in alt mode? So he got his transformation cog fixed. Is that news?

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Post by Rack 'n Ruin » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:27 pm

I didn't know First Aid had a broken T-cog. When was that mentioned?

Preview is a bit dull, imo. Bluestreak's phone is nice though. :)
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Post by Unicron » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:59 pm

Rack 'n Ruin wrote:I didn't know First Aid had a broken T-cog. When was that mentioned?
Back in issue 5(?), the second one at Delphi. Ratchet deduced First Aid's cog was malfunctioning, hence why he hadn't transformed and triggered the virus. As far as I can recall, it wasn't mentioned again after that, nor has he been shown in alt-mode till now.

I would think it would be a semi-important thing to mention that it had been fixed, what with him having been stationed at a medical facility for who knows how long with a doctor the caliber of Pharma and not having it fixed then. Seems like something that couldn't be fixed via a quick bit of surgery, and I always assumed it being fixed would be a side effect of the eventual creation of Defensor.

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Post by zigzagger » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:47 am

Again, preview's not giving me a whole lot to work with. I'm just not sure what to expect from this issue yet. The solicits made it sound promising, I suppose, but so far it's not entirely grabbing me.

Hopeful that the Megatron backstory stuff that's being alluded to here turns that all around. Roberts further retconning Megatron: Origin out of existence is a happy prospect. So, uh, I guess that means that my interest is piqued after all :)

Nice to have confirmation on what happened to Bluestreak and First Aid during the last story, though. Was wondering about them.


Going to have to agree with Warcry -- no one can seem to settle on what Bluestreak is supposed to look like. Some consistency in coloration would be nice as, like Warcry said, Bluestreak shares a similar design with two other characters. Don't think Rojo's more humanized art style is helping either (which I'm not digging all that much this issue, I'm sorry to say). Hell, at first glace I thought it was Prowl.

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Post by Knightdramon » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:31 am

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Hopeful that the Megatron backstory stuff that's being alluded to here turns that all around. Roberts further retconning Megatron: Origin out of existence is a happy prospect. So, uh, I guess that means that my interest is piqued after all :)
I'd rather they retcon Autocracy out of existence than Megatron Origin. Thankfully they're adding on to Origin.

I just re-read Chaos Theory in paper form [got the TPB], and between Chaos Theory, Last Stand of the Wrecker [extras] and MTMTE Autocracy is flat out wrong.
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Post by zigzagger » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:19 am

Yeah, Megatron: Origin does lend itself better to reinterpretation. Quality aside, it left so many things undeveloped and so many things unanswered. Makes it easy to add onto it.

In my personal canon, however, Chaos Theory is the 'true' Megatron: Origin. The original has already be retconned in my eyes.

Autocracy... eh, I'd prefer IDW treat that one the same way Dreamwave sort of treated the War Within series as being loosely connected to their main continuity.

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Post by Terome » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:52 am

Rojo's coming along in leaps and bounds, that's good to see.

I'm not super swotted up on the fine details but, if anything, Roberts seems to be taking Megatron: Origin as gospel. Sure, he's wriggling in every space there is to wriggle in but Megatron is nothing but 'quiet and hardworking' in Origin. I guess Origin didn't intend for him to have a whole literary following before that moment but I'm not sure that counts as a retcon.

Agree that there's not much to go on here. Seems to be becoming the standard fare for previews. I like that these characters are getting lines. I guess Bluestreak's design will get streamlined and finalised once he's had a few outings.

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Post by Rack 'n Ruin » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:28 pm

Unicron wrote:Back in issue 5(?), the second one at Delphi. Ratchet deduced First Aid's cog was malfunctioning, hence why he hadn't transformed and triggered the virus. As far as I can recall, it wasn't mentioned again after that, nor has he been shown in alt-mode till now.

I would think it would be a semi-important thing to mention that it had been fixed, what with him having been stationed at a medical facility for who knows how long with a doctor the caliber of Pharma and not having it fixed then. Seems like something that couldn't be fixed via a quick bit of surgery, and I always assumed it being fixed would be a side effect of the eventual creation of Defensor.
Ah, thanks. I'd forgotten that bit about Delphi. First Aid in alt mode could just be an art error? Or Ratchet just managed to fix it. Maybe they salvaged Ambulon's (RIP) T-cog from the corpsegun for a transplant? Would that even work?

On a side note, I'm still sad we didn't get to see Ambulon's leg mode. And he is now missing out on Combiner Wars! Poor Ambulon. :(
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Post by Unicron » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:29 pm

Rack 'n Ruin wrote:On a side note, I'm still sad we didn't get to see Ambulon's leg mode. And he is now missing out on Combiner Wars! Poor Ambulon. :(
That's what pissed me off the most about Ambulon's death: That we never got to see the leg, even if he was just used to wedge a door open or something.
I mean they make a big deal about him having a useless alt-mode and the phrase "every shape serves a purpose" kept coming during the series. How can they not find a use for him?

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Post by Red Dave Prime » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:12 am

Knightdramon wrote:I'd rather they retcon Autocracy out of existence than Megatron Origin. Thankfully they're adding on to Origin.

I just re-read Chaos Theory in paper form [got the TPB], and between Chaos Theory, Last Stand of the Wrecker [extras] and MTMTE Autocracy is flat out wrong.
Just curious if you have read Monstosity or any of the new Primacy. They'll really pee you off.

At this point I think those three minis can be somewhat ret conned out. Despite being edited by Captain Continuity they seem to only pay lip service and characters and events are re-shaped to suit the whim of the writer.

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Post by Auntie Slag » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:38 pm

Has this been delayed? I thought it was out today as the preview is usually dished a week beforehand... but I received the Forbidden Planet Comic Wednesday announcement and MTMTE didn't feature. RID certainly did though, with a very interesting cover including Galvatron, Rhinox and Alpha Trion!
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Post by zigzagger » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:50 am

Auntie Slag wrote:Has this been delayed?
Issue's out the 29th.

To be honest, I'm starting not to like this alternating release schedule thing IDW has going on at the moment.

While it's pretty cool every other month when we get two issues of MTMTE just two weeks apart, it makes for an agonizing, month and a half wait when it's RID's turn.

Okay, 'agonizing' is a bit melodramatic. I'm just super impatient ;)

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Post by zigzagger » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:54 am

Full preview is now up @ Comicosity.

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Post by Skyquake87 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:42 pm

Hmm...not come out this week, so next week..?

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Post by MikeB » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:20 pm

It's out, I have it. Want to read it again before commenting in case I'm letting my inner fanboy get in the way of reality...

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Post by britbot » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:43 pm

It's out today, or at least it is on comixology
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Post by inflatable dalek » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:32 pm

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Interestingly, Roberts has just this second mentioned on Twitter that he's probably going to write something about the thought process behind this issue as the immediate fan reaction has been so strong (though not having had chance to browse other forums as yet I don't know in what way).

So, an issue that on the face of it seems to be deliberately ignoring last month's cliffhanger, but instead has decided to focus on an ethical dilemma.

It's an interesting and difficult question and the comic is quite smart in that we know the extent to which the found body is bad news before the rest of the characters.

Poor First Aid, he does everything that a doctor should do (well, almost, I was surprised that the idea of just stabilising the patient until they could get them to a secure facility would have been the most sensible option, restoring an unknown to full health seems pointlessly dangerous. That's something that could have been covered in one line easily enough so it was surprising, unless I missed it, that it wasn't adressed as Roberts is normally good at that), even when he realises it's a member of the DJD and is reticent to donate his own fuel because of those Pharma issues he still helps Trailcutter do it, and it completely bites him on the ass.

It's a difficult issue (and perhaps the way it could be read as "Letting your enemies die is the best bet" is what's causing the fuss?) and both sides of the argument are well handled. I do think Bluestreak is the one who actually comes off worse in not responding to First Aid's call for help just because he's a bit of a dick, and I certainly didn't feel as if just because it was the wrong choice this time that it would be the case everytime (and of course, doctor's have no choice in the matter anyway).

To counter that, we have serious medical malpractice in the flashbacks. The parallel to the Autobot's decision in the present is clear, not fixing Vos would have been by far the best option despite it being against all medical ethics, but in the past a similar pragmatic "For the common good" decision to mess with Megatron (which you could argue, if it not for Rung interfering before it took hold, would have prevented four million years of war) does nothing but make things worse in the long run.

That's hugely interesting and thoughtful, it's not a case of "**** your enemy", nor "Help them no matter what", both characters in both time frames make their choices based on what they think is right and things end up pretty screwed up as a result. There's some serious depth there and no easy answers. Wonderful.

Amidst all that, we also get:

An explanation for why Megatron was barely capable of speaking in sentences in Megatron: Origin (presumably he was still suffering from what Trepan did to him).

Megatron having a friend in everyone's favourite Peter Davison Doctor Who story, Terminus. Start your "Terminus is Tarn!" speculation now.

The DJD actually having had a rough time of it in their fight with the ALL and the various other parties that seem to have joined in. A nice counter to the claims they were too tough in the flashbacks.

So all the other new crewmembers were just floating in space after all.

Trailcutter's death seemed to be determined to be a "So, people think I do too many fake outs? Lets kill this muther in the most lethal way possible then!" reaction from Roberts.

Though... with all the speculation Agent 113 is in the DJD, is Kaon one of our boys and the entire thing was an elaborate trick to fool Vos?


And that cliffhanger... so, is that past Brainstorm mucking about because the Institute were involved in messing up Megatron's head... or is time travel involved? The later seems more likely considering what we know about the briefcase, but nothing can be certain here.

If it is time travel, them presumably the third part of the Shadowplay trilogy will see our characters mucking about in the past of Cybertron?
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Post by Red Dave Prime » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:31 pm

I really enjoyed this issue - some general gasp moments. For a bit I thought we were going to get the identity of Agent 113 in Vos but that looks less likely.

Interesting times ahead...

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