i just finished reading xmen inferno

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i just finished reading xmen inferno

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man, am i angry and in tears.
though the story was not bad, i hate the charactor assasination of madeline pryor.

how does she become so evil. THEY TURNED HER INTO EVIL INCARNATE.
usuallly in stories, the person is brainwashed by some demon, and blah, blah breaks out of the spell.
but she was evil, wanting to kill her son.
and she apparently ditched her son, to escape from the mauraders.
can someone help me clear this up?
ever since i read the dark phoenix saga last week, i've been dying to get the whole phoenix, madeline story.
i've spent a good 500 dollors on trade paperbacks nad back issues to get the whole story.
and i'm steamed, i mean did they hv to make her so evil, could'nt a simple divorce work. sure she was a clone, but damm i liked the character in the beg, and they turn her into a demon.
ok i'm ranting now. so how did she or which particular issue did she becoem so evil
i've got the dark phoenix saga issues, cost me an arm and leg(should hv bought the paperback)
mutant massacre, rising from the ashes, inferno, phoenix arising, xtinction agenda
now what other issues do i need to fill in the whole story.
and why do all the essential reprints hv to be in black and white
sure u get to read all the stories, but not in color. BAH



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Essential X-Men is in colour... Image

eh, I think adding a dark side can be good... we all have our nastier sides, hers was awakened by N'sith (or whatever). Sinister didn't help matters either.

It wasn't just Maddy that got evil though... *points at Longshot and Dazzler*
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The reason why they made Madelyne so evil, was because they wanted to justife Scott leaving her. The high and mighty Cyclops couldn't have dumped an ordinary innocent woman, no. She had to be evil.

And the issue it really happened was UXM #234, part of the Brood battle. http://tuttles.50megs.com/uxm-history.html#UXM200


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Originally posted by Tarantulas:
Essential X-Men is in colour... Image
Depends. The British monthly reprint comic is in colour; but the "Essential" American TPBs are in b&w. Which is the reason I don't own any.

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Post by Jetfire »

X-men from 201 to inferno (139) all slowly cover Madalyne Pryor story.

If you want the basic info here it is.


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The instant Scott leaves hereMr Sinister has her marked for death because he cant have people finding out about his cloneing shanginans.The mauderers go to kill her but only get baby Nate she esacpes 'amazing' and survives as is put in hospital. By the early 220's the X-men come to save her when the mauderers come to finish the job and naturally shes bitter that Scott not only left her, got with Jean but left her to die.She joins with the X-men to increse her sense of worth.Also she gets close the Havok as Lorna Dame is posessed aparently inseperablt to mallace and goes bad big time so they sorta feel each other pain. In fall of the mutants Maddie 'dies' with the X-men and is resurected but demons from inferno after trick her in a dream to become the goblin queen and under the infulence and total bitterness she has towards Scott Summers she inferno persona surfaces.


As it goes it seasm everyone who read the Maddie story in X-men feels the same as you dude and hated Cyclops for a good long while-Me included.

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Hey man,
The inferno saga was pretty good...you really should read the Phoenix Saga, or the Dark Phoenix Saga...

That is avail. in trad paperback and I know it is like issue 100something for 12 issues with the death of...
Well I don't want to ruin it for you, but you should check it out.



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The death of a solar system. Yes, we all know

Why should the Maddy thing make any difference to my level of hatred towards Cyclops? Why do I even need a reason?

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she does come back you know...sort of...

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it was'nt al about sumers ditching madie that pissed me off, its more about how they madfe her soem evil entity.
they could hv shown her hating jean and all, cause she's aclone and dying heroically to save scott or her son.
i would hhv preferred them showing dying by rebelling agaginst sainsister to dsave her child, rather then she become this lame goblin queen.
BAH
damm, i really liked madelyine as a charactor

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Hey, Scotty rocked in Eve of destruction, but it would seem I'm the only one who has read it.. I'm also one of only two people on the board who seems to have read any of the past couple of years' worht of issues, so I'm about the only one who can actually go round saying it's crap now... if that was the case...

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Post by Denyer »

Originally posted by Cliffjumper:
the "Essential" American TPBs are in b&w. Which is the reason I don't own any.
Ditto. Pictorially dull homogenised blur.
Heck, even American dot-colour would have done.


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Uh-huh. And flciking thru the things, they felt like the kinda thing that'd go smudgy... Don't think I'm outright against B7w in comics, but if you read the mid-late 70s X-Men stuff, it's big on colour, and simply taking the colour from a colour strip never looks too good... Might as well buy the Movie colouring book Image

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Post by Starscreamsghost »

Originally posted by Cliffy:
B7w in comics
Is that part of a bar code or a kind of jet?

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It's the Blackbird's serial number.

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*guffaws*

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